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Pardew Hopes To Keep One of World’s Best At Newcastle

11:10 pm, Thursday, August 22nd, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 106 Comments

Alan Pardew talked today and said that Arsenal had not come back with an improved bid for Yohan Cabaye, and it seems the Newcastle manager still carries some hope that Yohan Cabaye will still be a Newcastle player come September 3rd, the day after the summer transfer window slams shut.

yohan cabaye funny face

Yohan Cabaye – no new Arsenal bid – yet
And we think owner Mike Ashley will stick to his guns, and only sell the French International if the club get an Andy Carroll like bid, which the club cannot turn down, and the most likely club that will come from is not Arsenal, but PSG.

This is what Alan Pardew said today:

“The most important thing about this whole scenario is that the club wins. That is what comes first on my shift. So if he stays, we really need to get the best out of him.”

“You cannot go on a forecourt of a car showroom and say to the dealership, “here is my valuation and I’m just going to drive it off”. It does not work like that.”

“You have got to agree a price, and only then can you drive it off. We have had one bid and it was not acceptable.” “Cabaye is a great player.”

“In my opinion, he is one of the best in the world in that position, and I have worked with Michael Carrick and Mascherano, so I like to think I know.”

“And I have a good relationship with Yohan. I think it is important that it stays a good relationship for him and for me and for this club.”  “And there has to be a way back for Yohan as well.”

“So I have to be very careful in these next 10 days where there is a solution and he moves on,  but there is also a solution that he continues to play for us. “

“Therefore I have to be seen to be fair and to be managing the whole picture.”

It would be goof if we can keep Yohan on Tyneside, but on the other hand, the Frenchman has to be committed to Newcastle United.

We’ll be pleased when this transfer window is over, and we’ll see where Newcastle stand – but if we can keep Yohan Cabaye and get Bafetimbi Gomis through the door, we’ll be happy enough.

And we’d be even happier of we can bring in a top class center-back to add competition in central defense.

But in the future, Newcastle just have to show a lot more ambition than has been shown this summer.

The fans want Newcastle United to be great again, and we cannot do that by penny-pinching all the time..

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106 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Pokat // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    And again for effect –

    Some might say that is laughable in a tragic way that during this all-important and pivotal transfer window, we have managed to hire a geriatric clown and borrow a hobbled alleged rapist. Its like a kids party gone nightmarishly wrong.

    Who says tradition is dead? :)

  • 2 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    “In my opinion, he is one of the best in the world in that position, and I have worked with Michael Carrick and Mascherano, so I like to think I know.”

    Dear f**king Christ, this man’s stupidity is boundless. He has lost all touch with reality

  • 3 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    Does Pardew understand that Cabaye is an attacking midfielder?

  • 4 numba9 // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    Mike Ashley likes to watch porn backwards.

    So he can see the prostitute hand the money back.

  • 5 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    The Argentina national coach, Alfio Basile, declared that he hoped Mascherano would leave West Ham “as soon as possible,” and “I hope for God’s sake that Mascherano can go to Juventus.”

    I wonder who the manager was???

  • 6 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    I bet Cabaye’s passing accuracy has tanked since he joined us. Our tactics make a player like him half as effective as he could be. Bravo Pardew Bravo

  • 7 Sazzer // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/liverpool/1806/the_mystery_of_.html

  • 8 cornishman // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    I have a bad feeling about this. I see a late bid for Cabaye that’s too good for tight arse to deny and we,re left without a creative midfielder. “He,s had his head turned” bollocks has he. If he wants out get rid now and bring in replacements for all our sakes, grow a pair and do something right for a change.

  • 9 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Jack,

    He has got experience managing “world class” players though, he can compare with working with them day out. Which is all he is saying, and is entitled to.

    Now I know people from the Toon don’t really rate Carrick at all but the facts are he has 29 caps for England and plays for one of the biggest clubs in the world. Obviously he can be a bit of a decent footballer.

    I tend to think people try and slaughter Pardews interviews for the sake of it at times. When really, there is no need.

  • 10 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    Sazzer

    Perfect link mate, absolutely bloody perfect

  • 11 luke.r // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    jack

    i think he was talking more about leaving because of the club he was at.. not the manager….

  • 12 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Toon-Prodigy

    He work with world class players and benched them, Mascherano played 5 games under him, if Pardew thought he was such a world class player then why the hell did he bench him at West Ham???

    The man is nothing more than a mass of contridictions

  • 13 JaxtheMag // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    I used to think pardew said only 1 stupid thing a day now he is in overdrive. he is getting cocky again thinking he is in charge.

  • 14 hazzy // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    At no point in Cabayes career has he been an attacking midfielder. He picks the ball up from the defenders and spreads play. In other words plays just like Mascherano and Carrick
    There again according to Kets Man U will finish in the bottom half and should lose to Swansea, Carrick is terrible and Marveaux is as good as Messi (just not as greedy).

  • 15 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    luke.r

    He was talking about leaving because he couldn’t get a game ahead of Hayden Mullins and Nigel Reo-Coker

  • 16 luke.r // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Jack

    lol well done for reading that article mate.

    Did you watch him when he did play? Because I did and he wasn’t that good. He was good for liverpool in the end but it took him time to settle in.

    I know you don’t like Pardew but come on you can’t blame everything on him.

  • 17 Graeme // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Having supported this shower for over 50 years now, you see them come, you see them go. You get the constant lows, like right now, but you get the most amazing highs into the bargain.

    I remember us becoming the only club to lose their first 3 Champions League group games and still qualify for the knock out stages – some amazing nights indeed. I was there and it was awesome.

    During those times it was almost certain that the fans, the management, the players, all bought in to the dream that is life at NUFC.

    Then we come to the Ashley era. A clueless man in an alien world. So far out of his depth he doesnt know where he is supposed to be going. Leaps in with both feet, causes disaster and mayhem, too proud to admit he has truely fcuked up in monumental fashion.

    Knowingly understands we need a CB, some 2 years ago – where is he? Sells our main striker, doesn’t bother to replace him. Just what does this idiot want with what used to be OUR football club??

    I dont think he even knows himself. He bought into something that seemed like a great idea, to him, at the time. Unfortunately it has been one unmitigated disaster after another.

    The only casualties are the club itself, it may never recover from the desperate situation where he finally bails out – he simply does not care. Then the fans, who support “their” club through thick and thin, good times (rarely) and bad times (usually).

    If Mike Ashley is the answer – it must have been one hell of a question – that nobody really asked in the first place!!

  • 18 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    luke.r

    Not at all mate, the guy talks about how he’s worked with world class players blah blah blah and yet he is incapable of getting our own players to form a single cohesive unit.

    I honestly don’t care what he’s done in the past I only care about what he’s doing here and now at OUR club

  • 19 gndtoon // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    If ashleys valuation of the club is 280 -300 million the faster we can get this number down 230ish the fast someone who acrually wants to own thr club can come in. As long as we stay in the prem I don’t care who we sell to achivr that.

    I am sick of windows like this, theres no fun, no excitement in supporting the club right now. Its a curse we must bare with untill we get shiek as an owner.

  • 20 luke.r // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Jack

    I agree he needs to sort out our squad completely and my patience is wearing thin now.

    But we can’y blame him for everything that has ever happened. Mascherano became a real world class player at barca not at liverpool.

  • 21 Tommyy // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    I’ll be honest and say I’m prepared to give Pardew the next two games, but I’m fast yearning to see the back of him.

    I just want to enjoy watching Newcastle play again, no matter the outcome.

  • 22 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Jack,

    How do I know why he benched them haha?

    Im just saying he has seen a good few centre mids in his time and can compare on quality. That’s his entitlement to do so.

    Don’t get me wrong, he is bigging Cabaye up for a better selling price here. But he does have the entitlement to compare. He has been in charge and managed some ok players in his time.

    There will be plenty more contradictions because what Pardew wants and what he is aloud to have are two completely different things.

    Pardew wants Cabaye gone now because that is the only way he see’s us bolstering other areas aswell as a striker. With these funds that would be generated.

    Who could blame him? 7-8 weeks gone with only Remy through the door injured. Joe’s not exactly hitting the ground running with the budget he has been allocated.

    It’s a sorry mess but I hate to see Pardew being scapegoated because of frustration generated solely by the board.

    Every manager talks shite if you scrutinise them as closely.

  • 23 LeedsMag // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Couldnt agree more Graeme.I think the only strategy is to survive on a tight budget,buy and sell at a profit -its the quickest way of getting his money back if there is no buyer.Strangely it is possible to be moderately successful that way if you have the right managerial team – but we get Pardew and his mate from down the pub JFK – I wonder when our Tina Turner – better than all the rest – DOF will actually pick up the phone to all of his global contacts – or is his number on caller barred?

  • 24 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Pardew loves to stroke his own ego and really big up high profile people he’s spoken to and can be linked with. I’ve noticed that for quite a while now.

    He loves to name-drop. It’s like he’s merely confirming his feeling of self-awesomeness.

    He’ll come down with a bump if West Ham go a couple up and fans get on at him.

    Cue his excuses…

  • 25 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    luke.r

    I’m not blaming him for everything, just the fact that he is our manager and he is responsable for putting out a limp, uninspired team that wears our shirt.

    Everyone wants signings, but it’s going to take more than a few signings to sort this mess out

  • 26 JackButler // Aug 22, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Toon-Prodigy

    Maybe it’s my frustration at the way things are happening at the moment and maybe I am reading into every little detail, but I’m sick and tired of Pardew talking a good game and providing none of that on the pitch.

    If he gets it right on the pitch then he can go around saying whatever the hell he likes

  • 27 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    Another classic:
    “We lost four-nil at Wigan last ­weekend and the two days after that were probably the most important in the last ten weeks. We asked the right questions and came up with the right answers. Everyone was looking for answers – even the masseur!’’

    http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/newcastle-boss-pardew-cisse-better-man-citys-tevez-3145611#.UhaUsI0qyyo

    Still looking after those answers I guess since we then went on to lose the last two games of the season and missed out on CL and spend next year in relegation battle and started this by losing against City again.

  • 28 geordie157 // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    will get slated for this line up but time to inject pace into the side and freshen the side up a bit. 4231 formation

    Krul
    Santon, Mbiwa, Colo, Dummett
    Tiote, Sissoko
    Ben Arfa, Marveux, Obertan
    Cisse

    Subs
    Elliot, Debuchy, Good, Anita, Gosling, Sammy, Gouffran

  • 29 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    JB, right on.

    If he talks the talk, he has to walk the walk. But he doesn’t. To make matters even worse, he not only doesn’t walk the walk, but post-match, he’ll slyly tell you that he just has, even though Stevie Wonder could give you a more accurate match review than Mr. Propoganda Pardew.

  • 30 bobby mango // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Pardew blatantly talks far too much. If he did interviews a bit less your cut him more slack.

    Remember when he recently said he’d earned his spurs! As if last season had somehow proved he was a gritty, brave manager. All it did was prove how inept he is.

    He’s not completely to blame but after last season he’s on the thinnest of ice and should learn to conduct himself better.

    Always said he was arrogant, even when things were going well his arrogance irked me. Now he’s got nothing to back it up.

  • 31 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Pardew is a man who has been hung out to dry, just the sane as last summer. He is a man who is dealing with a very difficult job under awkard circumstances.

    He’s a rabbit in the headlights. It can’t be nice for him?

    At the end of the day he’s just a bloke dealing with it as best he can.

    He’s a mediocre manager which has been employed to do a mediocre job. He is not in charge of our ambition MA is.

    He could be ambitious in his tactics, but why? Why risk his income if he can already do the job he has been asked to do with the limited resources and funds which he is given. Lack of ambition, lack of incentives.

    We are in a vicious cycle of mediocrity which can only be changed by Mike Ashley. Any other manager would still have the same constraints and problems. Lack of quality and depth in area’s on the pitch.

  • 32 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Geordie157
    My face when I saw obertan in a starting line up! 😉

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xd49uW0pfwg/UWp2usRBaNI/AAAAAAAABco/icU7EUyRDHk/s320/homealone.jpg

  • 33 geordie157 // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    question, who’s no.37?? in the first pic on nufc.co.uk training for west ham game.

  • 34 geordie157 // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Knew he’d get a mention.

    I don’t like Obertan, but he does help us push up the pitch.

  • 35 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    I know one thing.

    I’ll be buying Pardews biography.

    I’ll be very interested to know the true ins and outs of the past few years.

    Hurry up and retire Alan.

  • 36 bobby mango // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Toon-prodigy… Sorry but that’s utter rubbish.

    “He could be ambitious in his tactics, but why? Why risk his income if he can already do the job he has been asked to do with the limited resources and funds which he is given. Lack of ambition, lack of incentives.”

    Ever heard of taking pride in your work? Look when we finished 5th, he was being mooted for England. I have to admit I was fearful he’d go at the time and believed he was a good manager.

    He got plaudits from me when he did right and he’ll get criticism when he does wrong… Which is coming thick and fast these days.

    He’s had a raw deal. Definitely. But a year of mind bogglingly stupid tactics has made his job harder. I truly believe if he’d managed the team better last year, had them playing decent stuff and we’d finish top half then Ashley would’ve cut him more slack as well.

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Geordie157
    Still wouldn’t have him anywhere near the team like. Would rather see Marv shift into ober’s place and put gosling through the middle

  • 38 luke.r // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    jack

    yeah but im not arguing that…

    toon prodigy

    I agree i think it will be very interesting to see how things were really run. Though hell be fired out of spite this season I think and we might just find out earlier than his biography to see what was really going on

  • 39 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Just because Barcelona didn’t play him until they got injuries in their defence doesn’t mean he wasn’t world class midfielder before he arrived.

  • 40 kevymartins // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Well said Pardrew, well said.

  • 41 Rake // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Obertan may not be a bad shout. Just tell him to run into the oppositino half and pass the ball safely and carefully to anyone near him. This way we might actually get near the goal…

  • 42 luke.r // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    No it doesnt but he never showed he was world class in the prem. He was a good player don’t get me wrong. But his best footballs been played at barca.

  • 43 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Bobby,

    Is it really utter rubbish? Pride? This is football and an excellent source of income. Defending 1-0’s. Defensive tactics screams getting enough points on the board. To me, anyway, he is the most professional person at the club. He can only do his best within the realms he can operate. Which is not decided by him.

    Can you really put the failure and turmoil of the last 6 years down to one one mans tactics and substitutions last season?

    At the moment, If we hit anything above top ten it will be solely down to Pardews managerial abilities, nothing else.

    We are a club with zero ambition who hires mediocre staff and bobbles about on the continent looking for bargains that is not to back our managers vision of play, but to secure big transfer fee’s in the long run. Anything we achieve is a bonus.

    Pardew is not building a team here, he is merely dealing with what he is being dealt on an annual basis.

  • 44 AaranD // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Problem with us and i’ve said it all a long is that the way we play changes week by week, depending on who we play.
    We don’t have a settled system that the players can get behind and make successful.
    All the top teams have a certain style of play they stick to. That’s the sort of stability we need a footballing philosophy.
    I don’t think Pardew is the man to do it.

  • 45 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    geordie157
    After Debuchy awful performance he deserves the bench for at least one game and Dummet a chance.

    Tiote might be out and Anita most likely in.

    So then it’s choice between Obertan vs Gouffran to be made.

    Marv should be certain but the again nobody would be suprised if either Gosling and one of the Ameobis gets to start over him.

  • 46 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    luke.r
    We will not agree. Barcelona paid 24 m £ for him. He was one one of the better players even for Liverpool when they finished runner up both the league and CL.

  • 47 Rooster // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    AP knows the score hw ia the one having to feed the info to the fans, maybe not so great that he has to speak for everyone at ghe club but you will find at most clubs the manager istghe mouthpiece.

    AP though picks the team, positions and formations, we look at the line up and think not to bad apart from the fact he wont play a younger player over a senior and has not ever, its time Dummet is noq given that chance, Santon fit or not, Dummet IMO us the best all round defender at our club, pace heading ability tackling positional sense, no weakness coupled with the fact he has a terrific left foot and puts a wicked cross in makes him complete all round best defender at ghe club! But mist players are nor playing for our manager when they coss that white line.

  • 48 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:48 AM

  • 49 luke.r // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    sazzer

    he was good yeah but he wasnt world class at that point in my opinion, lol yes we will never agree but i did really like him at liverpool i must say

  • 50 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    How are any new incomers going to feel working for a club under this regime? With zero ambition.

    Look at Cabaye now. He knows he will never see any Champions League while he is here? How many times has Ben Arfa spoke out now about ambition? Colo wanted away.

    Whilst we are a stepping stone club for any gold nugget we find, we are also a club with no ambition.

    Where does that leave us fans?

    We have nothing to look forward to.

    Shocking state of affairs.

  • 51 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    “I will put my own money in to keep them”
    “I will spend £20,000 or £30,000 and put my money in to keep them for as long as we can, because I care and I want to win. I’m sure with them we have more chance to win.”
    “I’m not going to start selling my houses in Italy, but I want to keep those players,”
    “When I die I will have a bit less money but will have the victory as a manager.

  • 52 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    luke.r
    At least, we will agree that he’s great player.

  • 53 Sazzer // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    PSG have given up signing Yohan Cabaye according to tomorrow’s L’Equipe.

  • 54 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Luke,

    Pardews biography will be a belter. So long as he’s honest 😉

    Sazzer,

    Bad news, as I was hoping this would turn into a bidding war just like Mike and Alan wants to orchestrate.

    To be fair, we have been putting all our targets in the shop window for a long time. It’s obvious what our transfer structure is.

  • 55 Mister Tuff // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    I’m hearing tales that old Joe was trying to get a lock in in a bar in Newcaste last week. Giving it large by declaring that he was Joe Kinnear from Newcastle United. Didn’t work he got “hoyed” out. Not good if he’s on the vino collapso all the time. Not good at all.

  • 56 luke.r // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    awww does that mean we have to keep debuchy?!?

  • 57 VanToonMan // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    As Toon Prodigy said….People should lay off giving constant stick to Pardew. Every manager has their own style….if a club hire them it means they are prepared to accept their style and support them with a suitable budget and squad of players.

    Pardew has not had that backing at all. It’s ok to say that after last seasons finish of 16th, it’s right for him to not have had that financial backing but then you must say that after he managed to finish 5th….he should have been supported that summer with the players he wanted (I’m sure he would not have just asked for Anita).

    The truth is Pardew does not get a say in transfers….he has made us finish 5th and 16th….it is only fair that we give him this season to see how he does. He is already at a disadvantage by the Ashley making the squad even smaller this summer….letting go of 3 players and bringing 1 in loan. Nevertheless Pardew deserves one more full season. Too many people are so quick to bring down the hammer….I remember how, after we finished 5th back in 2004…people were saying “Bobby has ost the dressing room…he is too old….players like dyer jenas etc don’t respect him….get rid of him etc”….just because we finished ONE PLACE below champs league spot after 2 years in a row. SBR should have had another season but he was not allowed….and the decline started.

    If Pardew flops this season then he must go….but he deserves this season…and he deserves financial backing.

    I for one am quietly hoping Cabaye stays and we bring in 1 or 2 more players!!

  • 58 Chris // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    geordie157 // Aug 23, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    question, who’s no.37?? in the first pic on nufc.co.uk training for west ham game.

    I think it’s Lubomir Satka, the young Slovakian lad
    http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Teams/ReservePlayerProfile/0,,10278~2825830,00.html

  • 59 JP...from The Rock // Aug 23, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    Pardew- ‘The bottom line is that we have a procedure in place to get transfers in and now Joe is directly the in-line manager for the board and Mike, the owner, so therefore I request to him what I think the team needs and he has to try to get them over the line. We all work together to do that.
    ‘There is a process where he comes in but the proof is in the pudding really and we have to make sure we get one or two transfers over the line before deadline.’
    ‘This has been a particularly poor week on a number of levels. But you get that. Sometimes adversity comes, so let’s get it out of the way, let’s sort ourselves out and make sure we are ready to rumble in the 37 games left.’

    –You gotta admit Pardew can Talk the Talk but can he Walk the Walk? Last season he was not backed and we suffered this season seems to be going in the same direction. It’s obvious he’s as frustrated as we are in this window and with Joe Kinnear.

    Let’s hope we finally get one/some/any ‘over the line’.

  • 60 Sydney Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:45 AM

    I think next week will be one of the massive weeks for a transfer window in recent history. I think Arsenal will go big for Cabaye and Suarez in desperation, hopefully we can bring in Manual Fernandes earlier and if we end up with Cabaye as well, well that surely would force Pardew to go 433??
    I think we are in for some surprises tomorrow and next week. There has to be a strategy, I don’t think Ashley would have punted Llambias and brought in JFK to frustrate us.
    It all comes down to the next 2 games, we shall see where we truly are and I hope Cabaye plays, and reiterates his desire to keep fighting for this club until he leaves, when that may be.

  • 61 Sydney Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:45 AM

    JP
    You would not happen to be from Uluru in Australia here???

  • 62 thai-mag // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:58 AM

    the way Cabaye played last season it’s best if he moves on, the way Pardew was buttering him up a couple of weeks ago “top professional player” and all that crap, I thought there was something up then, it reminded me when Ba was after a move, the way I see it he is far from professional by a country mile, I hope he takes his useless mate with him to. Simpson was by far a better player

  • 63 thai-mag // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:23 AM

    So much for the new fitness coach, we are now clear 2nd place on injuries with 7 players out, 1 behind Man U, I think we will soon top that on Saturday

  • 64 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:24 AM

    @thai – almost everyone was very poor last season, he still had plenty of ‘moments’ like free kicks/ through balls…. maybe not corners lol.

    Simpson was absolutely NOT a better footballer than Debuchy- I am worried that he is probably a better defender though.

    I expected so much from him but he just hasn’t impressed. The thing I’m most dissappointed with him is, with giving away stupid penalties a close second, his attitude. It’s terrible. Has tantrums and gets himself booked/ sent off damaging the team’s effort.

    I hope he’s just having a bad patch or settling in to the prem because to be 1st choice RB for France you’ve got to be pretty good- he obviously has the footballing talent with his crossing and touch just needs to be a lot smarter when defending.

  • 65 Toon_Tom // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:34 AM

    If we are honestly waiting for Cabaye to leave to fund new arivals, then what happened to all the TV monies, or all the money from the sale of Perchinho?

  • 66 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:53 AM

    luke.r @20

    Sorry, mate. I would like to correct you on Mascherano became star in Barca.
    Barca don’t buy rejects, they buy world class players. they have been buying stars since Maradona era and sell them when they nolonger at their best.
    Mascherano became world class star when he was with Liverpool, that’s why barca bought him. Same as Fabregas, Ibra, Silva, Jordi, Stoickov, Koeman, etc.

  • 67 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:58 AM

    On the subject of Cabaye and Debuchy, I change my mind, they are sold.
    When pardew said “I hope to keep this player”, that will only mean one thing, they are gone already.
    I’m only worried about when they will leave, it could be another AC scenario sold him at last second and didn’t have time to get replacement unless we can get replacement before they are sold.

  • 68 check the toastie // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:04 AM

    Wish I supported another side. Spurs would do currently, our respective managers couldn’t be further apart in their football philosophy. That Andros Townsend looks some player as well, would soon be turned into shite by Percy mind.

    PARDEW OUT

  • 69 check the toastie // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:07 AM

    Pardew is abusing Anita in exactly the same way he tried to ruin Mascherano, its like he cant pick players under 5foot seven, the man is hightest. Wouldn’t pick Tevez due to height or Mascherano, same now applies to Marv and Anita.

    Can anyone reason out why Sammi would be in front of Marv in the pecking order. I work with loads of Smoggies and they were less than impressed with him when he was on loan, that’s a bad championship side by the way. Incredulous.

    PARDEW OUT

  • 70 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:14 AM

    As Cab and Debu replacement probably Gattuso/Barton type of player will be better for the team. We have good players that can take Cab position as playmaker, we have Marv and HBA, I think Anita can do the job too. Anita is good player, but pardew is too brilliant to see his capability.
    I would also love a player with Sinisa Mihajlovic skill, he can get us out of trouble with his free kicks. I remember when he was at Lazio, scoring directly from corner and socred hat-trick only from free-kicks.
    Striker or winger if we can get one, good! but if we can’t, it’s ok. As long as we can get those 2 type of players I mentioned above.

  • 71 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:19 AM

    check @69

    I said the same thing few days ago, I wonder what Marv would feel even when the game is lost, he sill can’t get a game.
    He must be thinking “what do I have to to get a game when the manager choose Sammy instead of me?”

    pardew will be sacked in 5 games, that’s my prediction.

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:32 AM

    Santon…if the regime had learned anything bu now then a replacement for either Cabs or Debs would have been brought in by now or at least been identified :-)

    …but we are the team that never learns! An Amateur club!

  • 73 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:41 AM

    Mascherano “became a star” at Liverpool and Barca. He became a great footballer in Argentina for River Plate. I saw him play centre half for Argentina back in 2004 against Brazil in Buenos, and he was top drawer already. This bloke made his SENIOR international debut before ever playing for River Plate in 2003. Within 12 months he was a first team regular, contributing to a title winning season. River Plate turned down several offers from Spain for the lad, including Real Madrid.

    West Ham bought a World class footballer through the back door thanks to loopholes and illegal dealings that made Kia Joorabchian a rich(er) man.

    Anyway, on topic, if as Pardew says the lad has had his head turned and isn’t in the frame of mind to play, then he should be sold. Us refusing to let him go isn’t going to help his fragile mental state. Get the deal done now though. If they want Debuchy as well, then it will need to be 10million to satisfy Ashley I think.

    A big bid at the end of the window is more likely now, leaving us in an even bigger hole…..

  • 74 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:46 AM

    Jesper,
    Yes but what happens if the bid doesn’t come? Then poor ol’ Mikey would have to pay wages for 2 extra players if we had bought them in advance. You are so unthoughtful of Poor Ol’ Mikes feelings wanting him to do that! 😉

  • 75 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:56 AM

    jesper

    I think we will have players coming in probably within 5 days before deadline. They should have learned, but strangest things has happened, it could be history repeat itself.
    If I were Ashley, I would give deadline like 5 days before window closed for Cab and Debu transfer, after that there will be nomore bids and they wil have to stay until January window.

  • 76 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    I have very high hopes on the odds of pardew as first manager to get sacked.

  • 77 Toon73 // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    @ Jesper 72

    An amateur Club?

    Absolutely spot on. I think this is what we are/have become 😐

  • 78 cyprus // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:16 AM

    World class? Though last season’s showing says anything but, I’ll go along with you AP… If that is the case, how come we NEVER dominate games?
    Why isn’t Mike investing in players? The writing is on the wall: when owners have decided you are out, they hold on to the purse in order to give it to the next manager. In Ashley’s defense, even belatedly, he bought 5 (almost) first teamers a few months ago? Result: more poor football. Somebody must go and we all know who that is.

  • 79 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    cyprus

    AGREEEEE 100%

  • 80 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    This year not this season, we have bought 5 players (7 including Mbabu & Kemen),and Remy for loan.
    total players coming in 8.

  • 81 Klatoon // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    The pic gallery from pre-WHam training does not show Cabaye at all. Does this mean he’s not even training with the team any more?

  • 82 JAMSHA // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Phil Dowd will referee Newcastle
    United’s Barclays Premier League

    We Have Never Won, When his The Referee

    4 matchs – 3 loss draw against west ham, an a loss again

  • 83 Thump // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:42 AM

    n my opinion, he is one of the best in the world in that position, and I have worked with Michael Carrick and Mascherano, so I like to think I know.

    …has he been taking tips from Kinnear?

  • 84 Toon73 // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    Both sharing the same whiskey bottle more like it

  • 85 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Klatoon,
    Cabaye is gone. Let’s just hope it happens soon and not right at the end. I’m coming more round to what I felt we should have done at the start of the window. A major clearout. Pack the team with young mainly British talent – Maguire, Ince, Redmond, Hughes, Rhodes, Long, Trippier, Byram, Chalobah, Powell etc and spend big on a top striker to help. Write this year off as a learning season, and give these kids the experience to kick on the following year. A la Aston Villa last season.

    We are writing this season off anyway if we sack Pards halfway through, even more so if we don’t improve on the manager and merely sidestep. At least with the above way there is a clear direction and plan. With our current set up we have no idea where we are meant to be going. The famous 5 year plan seems to have been scrapped, and we are drifting, and heading into trouble.

  • 86 supershola // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    I really don’t rate pardew much but you have to think who would we realistically get if he gets the boot?

    Which half decent manager would join a club where he know’s that he will have no money to spend on players?

  • 87 kt97toonarmy // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    I’m gathering u didn’t watch England’s under 18 and under 21 tournaments to say that

  • 88 Klatoon // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    Lilongwe

    I agree, we should take the Spuds approach; replace THEN sell! Gourcuff wouldnt be a bad option, perfect fit AP’s alleged 4-2-3-1

  • 89 Wandering Geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    The Glazier is deluded….He’s ala JK’s clone….Get rid of him and the Sunday league coach Carver

  • 90 theartfuldodger // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    Obviously the hierarchy think we are too good for redmond or sinclair . So we will not try to get them. Iv heard stories here that they werent targets. The question remains WHY ? Which of our wingers is better than sinclair. Ben arfa thats it.
    Thers no point of having better targets but not getting them in and then loosing a whole season.

  • 91 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Bloody hell people, I know some fans wanted Pardew our at the end of last season, but the owner decided to give him another go. Some people kind of accepted that and were willing to wait a few months but now, on the basis of one match (away to probably the best team without our playmaker and with 10 men in the 2nd half) people are going completely mental!

  • 92 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    supershola

    A lot, as long as you don’t ask for Mourinho, Benitez, Mancini, Guardiola, Klopp type.

    Here is the list of Italian manager currently unemployed and PPM (point per match)

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/verfuegbaretrainer/basics_75.html

  • 93 bobby mango // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Toon-prodigy

    You’re missing the point… I’m 100% not blaming Pardew for the misery we’ve suffered under Ashley. I fully respect Pardew is working under very difficult conditions BUT that does excuse his every action.

    Playing Cisse on the right wing, defending corners poorly, embarrassing offensive set pieces, players picked regardless of form etc etc. These are just a couple of inexcusable examples that are not influenced by the board in any way.

    Then of course there’s his interviews! Ok, he has to be the spokesman for the club but does he need to give as many interviews? And when he does why talk so much rubbish?

    He may be in an unenviable position but I don’t think he’s doing an admirable job.
    Not saying sack him now but, five games in, if the team are playing as badly as we did last season he has to go.

  • 94 Santon03 // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    Dutch managers/coaches

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/verfuegbaretrainer/basics_122.html

  • 95 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    By the way, Martinez’s points on Fellaini and Baines echo Pardew’s points on Cabaye.

  • 96 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    KT97,
    I’m not really arsed how well the international youth sides do. Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Terry, Ferdinand etc have rarely looked good at international tournaments yet they all look top drawer in the Prem. Totally different style of play, mentality and philosophy.

  • 97 Toon73 // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    @ TDS

    Wait a few months? For what?

    We all knew last season what we up with. Do you honestly believe waiting for 10 games will solve anything?

  • 98 Beattie25 // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    Down Sarf

    But Matinez got both playing and Pardew didn’t get Yohan out there.

    Weak management.

  • 99 Beattie25 // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Down Sarf

    You really, really don’t get it.

    Is not one result.

    It’s 14 years of poor to average management, is a host of clubs firing him, it’s the supporters of former teams he’s been in charge off all ridiculing him for his shocking decisions, it’s all the negative records he’s broken, it’s the old fashioned football, the lack of tactics, the poor managerial choices, the lies, the excuses, the backwards path we’ve on been on for years, it’s the lack of humility, it’s the performances he generates (or lack of) and it’s the fact that despite all this he still thinks he should be here, that he’s an adopted Geordie and that he’s a winner.

  • 100 theartfuldodger // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    I hope in the next 5 or 10 games the football played is evaluated by Ashley/Kinnear. And not just points based on wonder goals.

  • 101 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    Frankly I don’t care about any of the counter-arguments because I’ve heard them all. I’m no Pardew lover but this blog has turned into a broken record and it seems to be impossible to discuss something productive as most people just want to slag off the owner and/or the manager.

    The manager isn’t going to be sacked after 1 game and if you want to get rid of the owner, get involved with a fans group or even the fans forum!

  • 102 agent007 // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    oo7 says good news is coming kep the faith

  • 103 cyprus // Aug 23, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    Santon03,
    Yep, lots of able managers out there.

    On the question who in his right mind would take on NUFC, are you serious? Twentieth largest club in the world (revenue), 7th in PL (salaries), some good players, big stadium. Many very good managers would kill or die for that position, for sure.

    Lilongwe,
    I read you on the overhaul. In truth, this group of players have ultimately failed, although I’m not sure it’s down to individuals. But then you proceed to say, populate the team with English players. Why?? They’re more expensive and not necessarily more talented. The top PL teams base their success on foreigners…

    I’m beginning to buy into the idea that the best transfer doesn’t even have to fit in the window: a new manager can walk through the door.

  • 104 Sir Braveheart // Aug 23, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    What you have to realise is a bad result intensifies the negative feelings people have. Had we sneaked a win or even a draw against Man City people would be feeling optimistic and even though they might want more signings or a change of manager they wouldn’t be as vocal.

    Take a picture of the general mood on the blog right now, then see what happens over the next 3 games. If we win all three you’ll see the mood lightens, if we lose them it’ll descend into the seventh circle of hell and no amount of reasoned discussion will be able to penetrate the doom and gloom.

    Its part of being a fan, your mood is directly linked to the performance of the team. Some people can hold rational reasoned discussion about the situation. Others, not mentioning any names but you can tell who they are, tend to go into overdrive and won’t listen to any kind of discussion, no matter how reasonable, if it differs from their viewpoint.

  • 105 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    Beattie, well said.

  • 106 fatman // Aug 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    ToonDarnSarf

    when your heading at a 150mph towards a brick wall the wise put the breaks on, the fools take a chance they can make it through. last three home games 10-0 and no improvement time to put the breaks on Pardew.




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