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Iconic St. James Park Gates To Be Unveiled Tomorrow

2:22 pm, Friday, August 23rd, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 119 Comments

One of the things that Newcastle fans will see tomorrow are the iconic wrought iron gates that used to be at the stadium, but were taken away in 1999, and they ended up at Woolsington Hall, the estate of Sir John Hall.

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The iconic St. James’ Park wrought iron gates

But the club, Sir John and NUFC Fans United got together and agreed that they needed to be restored and they were being installed and further restored at the ground earlier this week.

They will be covered up until tomorrow, before they are formally unveiled, and the workers seem to have done a great job in restoring the gates to their former glory.

And it’s great to see the club and fans working together to get something positive achieved for Newcastle United.

Here are some photos of the restored wrought iron gates, and the men working on them – and we should see some additional photos tomorrow after the gates are unveiled.

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119 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    These will ensure that pardew does not escape the assylum

  • 2 Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Bought F’n Time – I will never forgive the fat controller for that. Its been all downhill since. What an amazing stadium. I have never been but plan on it in the next couple of years. As for the club having the same ambition as the Manchester sides…??? I about fell out of my chair. I was giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt but they are delousional. Just incredible.

  • 3 tequilamag // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Not sure “iconic” is the correct word for the gates. Nice gates and all that but they are just gates. Seems a bit pointless to just put them up against a wall as well.

  • 4 jayphoto // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Not really sure the gates are iconic…. were they really up for that long?
    Looked damned bloody ridiculous in front of the breezeblock wall anyways! Good metaphor for the club under Ashley though gates infront of a brick wall….

  • 5 Wayayman // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Problem with playing 4-4-2 though is the WE DON’T HAVE ANY WINGERS!!!

    No point asking Benny or Marv, or Gouffran or Sissoko to play there as it’s wasting their natural talent for attacking more centrally. We’d have far more success trying to play our way through teams than hitting the wings, attempting a cross then having their huge CD’s head it out of the box again. We don’t have a Shearer any more, we don not have the players to play 4-4-2 so there’s absolutely NO point in playing that way!

    4-3-3 is the way forward with Benny and Marv or Gouffy, Remy when he’s fit playing just behind Cisse. The benefit of having Remy in there with Cisse is that one will always drop deeper than the other to get the ball moving forward but that’s not playing alongside. Can’t remember when we last got a decent cross into the box from open play anyway!

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Nice to have these gates back at the stadium, shame they are up against a wall though and they haven’t found a spot for them properly.

    Good idea but a pit poorly planned out….sums up the regime.

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Wayayman

    Problem is we need good width. Even if its not to cross but to stretch play.

    I remember guardiola satin his barca side struggled when they moved away from width as teams could crowd them out centrally, even with their talent.

    So we need width from somewhere, if not wingers then we need the fullbacks to really attack and an extra CB or holding mid player to offer the protection.

    The main issue we have though is there is no team cohesion and players don’t link different areas of the team well…I believe this is because as a whole the team is 20 yards to deep most of the time and we play on the back foot…that requires lots of pace which we dont have.

  • 8 jayphoto // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    theres a horrible chance that if tiote misses tomorrow Pardew will think that Anita is too small to impose himself on a physical opposition and opt for Gosling!
    Same reason I think Sammy might get the nod at left wing, for his height! Always thought fast technical players will pee all over big physical teams 9 times outta 10, its rare a physical team wins leagues, champions leagues or world cups! Also wouldn’;t be surprised if Sholas fit he’ll start up top in a direct style 4-4-2

  • 9 Thump // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Here’s one for you lot. My mate’s just finishing a coaching course with NUFC and has been on a stadium tour as part of it (something to do with the Prince’s Trust, I don’t know, don’t ask). Anyway, when a player’s sold they turn the shirt around in the dressing room. Perch’s is still up but turned around… as was Cisse’s. I’m assuming it’s a cock up but it’s interesting nonetheless.

    He actually wanted me to phone him about the gates (they’re coned off, there’s a cover over them and there’s tools laying next to them) but clearly this post explains it!

  • 10 Beattie25 // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Ed

    I am one person who will always defend you against the onslaught of abuse you sometimes receive for your posts.

    However this time I must highlight how innacurate this post is.

    These gates are not iconic. They were erected in the late 80′s and dismantled in the mid 90′s.

    They have been placed against a wall and the owner and sponsors are manipulating facts in order to win hearts and minds.

    This isn’t a good thing as people like yourself buy into this nonsense and spread the word they want you to say to hundreds and thousands of toon fans who will think the board have done something good for the club.

    Rotting gates from a rubbish heap that are neither iconic or legendary.

  • 11 Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Sage – a 5-2-1-2 would work in my opinion. Similiar to Juve. Santon and Debuchy would be used more in attack w 3 CB’s. Play Sissoko and Cabate as holding CDMs and Benny as a CAM w Remy and Cisse up top

  • 12 Transfer Sage // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Jayphoto

    In modern football players are well protected, too well in my eyes as even a bit of strength in a shoulder barge is a foul.

    So you’re right, big physical players count for nothing if they can’t get near the ball, their size is taken out of the equation.

    Ideally you want a big, physical player who is also technical, best of both worlds…but it’s more rare.

  • 13 TimKrulFan // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    How about a player instead. Anytime fatty does something nice its just to soften the blow for what he is about to do.

  • 14 DokToon // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    is it me or are the gates in the perfect place… they open them, and we all will run headlong into a solid wall, like lemmings…

    kinda like our club, trying to make headway up the table…

  • 15 Indian Magpie // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Beattie

    Neither is every NUFC target Top Player as ED puts it. its Journalism

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Zebras

    Possibly could work.

    For me it’s less about formations and more about getting the players playing as a unit and working in the right areas of the pitch.

    Us being being too deep and lacking pace explains for me why we never seen to be able to create team goals and rely heavily on individual efforts.

    There were small signs of improvement in the city game I thought so I’ll see how we fare on Saturday.

  • 17 Monument Mal // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    How apt…….gates to nowhere

  • 18 Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    I agree w that as well – I do feel that the strengths of players like Santon and Debuchy are in attack b/c they are avg defenders at best. Im expecting a nice result and the forum to relax a bit come Sat eve

  • 19 catchy in norway // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    tequila

    we do play badly , more often than just ok, rarely good, and never excellent

    we have never put in a solid 90 mins against any team in the last 2 years, and even in the season we finished 5th, the football was rout 1, launch up to Ba and cisse,,

    as a football fan, I want us to thrash someone, and this will NEVER happen under pardew, he panics and tries to shut up shop

    his man management skills are very poor, ask anita, marv, fergy, and many others

  • 20 lesh // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Have the gates been positioned where they used to be? Anyone know?

  • 21 Wayayman // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    TS, undoubtedly the wing backs would want to get forward as Debs and Santon (also Dummett) like to get forward naturally. Even if they don’t recieve the ball, their presence is creating space for the forward 3 (or Cisse and the 2 ACM’s) to run into and exploit. Someone like Sissoko who is that way inclined would love some movement in front of him to create some gaps. I know none of us are professionals, or coaches, but it’s a bit fcuking alarming when we can all see it except the clown putting the team out, isn’t it?

  • 22 Klatoon // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Shola should only start IF Dummet’s in the team. The lad whips a wicked cross and Shola’s not too bad attacking crosses.

  • 23 tequilamag // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Catchy this season is a clean sheet for me. I would take the top 5 season again performances and all but that is history, the same as last season is history. It could go either way.

  • 24 Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Teq – it takes time for teams to gel as well – Playing a man down w/out our core (Cabaye) on the road against City is not proper match to judge how we will be this season. Im really looking forward to tomorrow to see how we will really look this season. Im hoping for a proper result!

  • 25 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 23, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    0-0 draw tomorrow. we don’t seem like to be able to know how to attack. but we should tighten up defensively and will most likely grind out a draw.

    i just can’t see us scoring.

  • 26 Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Ilovetoon – classic name btw

    You really dont see us scoring? Ill take some action on that.

  • 27 catchy in norway // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    tequilamag

    sometimes you have to look at history to see the future,

    history tells us that pardew has never been an attacking manager, he always moans about reasons why its not his fault,
    when in reality, this is the best attacking squad he has ever had,

    this season, it could be mind games, but he is already saying we carnt compete with southamton and teams around them,, so where is he aiming

    Europe is to many games for him,

    he carnt handle cup games

    history tells us this,, so what should we expect ???

  • 28 Ben3arfa // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Something needs to be done ! URGENTLY

    We will not win tomrrow . Perhaps some should go look for Mr. Ashley and have a word with him personally. This is too much

    ASHLEY OUT. KINNEAR OUT. PARDEW OUT

  • 29 toonaids // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    this team has stagnated and i can only think of pardew to blame, so instead of pushing the same team/formation/pap i say try something different

    krul
    debu colo yanga santon

  • 30 VanToonMan // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/talk-of-the-toon-ambition-isn-t-a-dirty-word-mike-1-5981391

    Great article by Ross Gregory. Not extreme and over-romanticised but a neutral and realistic critique of the owner/board’s behaviour over the last couple of seasons.

    I’m slowly giving up on hopes of a regular top 6 finish under the Ashley reign. Nevertheless let’s hope for 3 points tomorrow.

    Team for tomorrow:

    ——-Debuchy———-Colo———-MBiwa——-Dummett–

    ———————-Sissoko————-Tiote———————–

    ——-Ben Arfa—————Cabs/Anita———-Marveaux—

    ———————————-Cisse———————————-

    Bench: Elliot, Dummett, Willo, Cabs/Anita, Obertan, Gosling

  • 31 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    We’ll get beat 0 2 tomorrow. I really can’t see us creating anything and there’s a good chance we’ll give a pelenty away.
    We’re in for a long hard season.

  • 32 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    i really can’t see us scoring. when’s the last time we looked like we knew what we are doing when we are in their final 3rd?

    nothing has changed from last season so far. unless something miraculous happen which i don’t think will.

  • 33 toonaids // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    this team and formation have stagnated and i can only blame pardew, but cant be bothered so hope he tries something different. young talent is where well get the fire from and why not playu them, try something different at least itll show the regular starters what is required and might get a bit more of competition,

    krul
    debuchy colo yanga santon
    gosling
    dummet/marv sissoko gouffran/sammy
    ben arfa/vuckic
    cisse/campbell
    orr

    krul
    debuchy colo yanga dummet
    bigi
    gosling sissoko
    Ben arfa/marv santon/gouffran
    cisse/campbell

  • 34 fatman // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    We’re on a road to nowhere
    Come on inside
    Takin’ that ride to nowhere
    We’ll take that ride

    I’m feelin’ okay this mornin’
    And you know,
    We’re on the road to paradise
    Here we go, here we go

    CHORUS

    Maybe you wonder where you are
    I don’t care
    Here is where time is on our side
    Take you there…take you there

    We’re on a road to nowhere
    We’re on a road to nowhere
    We’re on a road to nowhere

    There’s a city in my mind
    Come along and take that ride
    And it’s all right, baby, it’s all right

    And it’s very far away
    But it’s growing day by day
    And it’s all right, baby, it’s all right

    They can tell you what to do
    But they’ll make a fool of you
    And it’s all right, baby, it’s all right

    We’re on a road to nowhere

    was this written for our bunch of clowns.

  • 35 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    It doesn’t matter which team Pards puts out, we’re not good enough. I know his tactics dont help but surely people can see we’re a weak squad. What do people expect from us?

  • 36 toonaids // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    i want to see vuckic, dummet and gosling playing against west ham, why would we play them preseaon and rave about how good they could be because they were the only three i thought that shone. goslings hungry for a new team so he will play his balls off, dummet has a chance to make an impact and vuckic looks a cool level headed player who can link up our attack!!!

    what doya reckon

  • 37 Yohan Kebab // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    u seen pardew using monday as an excuse for this weekend, this is getting ridiculous

    “We’re kind of patching ourselves up a little bit from Monday. First game you don’t really want to go down to 10 with 45 to go.”
    “Some of our players have worked a little bit harder than they should have, so we’ve got a couple of tired bodies.”

  • 38 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Nice gates wrong place might need them in front of Krul tomorrow!

    Anyway TOON fans not the only ones hacked off with the transfer window – Spuds fans most be hacked off loosing Bale to Real and Willam going to Chelski.

  • 39 stan anderson // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Wonder the fat controller has,nt flogged the gates to Sheperd for the scrap value,scrap is,nt cheap is it.
    And we got same ambition as the Mancs have we?.
    Never had any doubt about it.
    Hope we dont get humiliated by the hammers tomorrow like,but i am not confident with this idiot picking the team.Shola, Sammy,Gosling etc.We are doomed.

  • 40 fatman // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    gates would have been better utilized up against the goal at least Pardew could have said we kept a clean sheet for half the game.

  • 41 WWSBRD // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    Players are tired after 1 match? Christ on a bike

  • 42 Mr Magpie // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    The lack of ambition coming out of the club is clearly evident from Ashley’s lack of spending to Pardew’s line of “it’s like a new signing” when players stay. I’m not expecting us to be able to compete with the top 6 & the bigger European clubs on transfers but surely there is a balance where a marquee signing to get everyone feeling positive & excited again, alongside some players in to be competitive in our squad for 1st team slots is not asking too much. Work on our academy structure to build for the future, be nice to see more home grown talent come through our own academy system!

  • 43 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    lol at pardew interview. they barely even looked fit at all in the first game, and are tired after training abit harder?

    excuses lined up for west ham already. oh god…

  • 44 theartfuldodger // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Pardew always goes for a draw – waiting for individuals to do something spectacular, now even more so cause his job is on the line. He knows 2 draws and 2 points will buy him time-Irrespective of the performance he will say that we matched them.

    I think pardew will start with
    krul,debuchy,colo,mym,dumett,sammy,sissoko,gouffran,hba,cisse,shola
    (If tiote is out. Else shola off tiote on).

  • 45 colwell // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    So Pards has come out and said their are some tired bodies in the squad?
    WTF is this pr1ck taking the p1ss? 1 game down and we are tired? where has the fittest players Pards has had since he has been here gone?

    Before we even play a game his excuses come out sack the bullsh1ting cnut an hope he never gets a job in football again the dinosaur that he is.

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    From NUFC.com
    ”Sunday saw the installation of metal gates* previously sited at the North entrance to St.James’ Park to a new position further down Barrack Road, adjacent to a brick wall and therefore leading precisely nowhere – a metaphor if ever there was one….”

  • 47 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    There’s a good chance we’ll be relegated this season, l know we’ve only played one game but the signs are there. I could see what was coming in pre season.
    Worrying times for the Toon.

  • 48 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    colwell // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    the stuff that comes out from his gap at times is ridiculous.
    he has already planned an excuse. no wonder the players barely bother turning up.

    he has not guts to lay down a challenge to the team. all he does is brainstorm on the excuses to tell the media once we lose.

  • 49 Car Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    It wud be a lot better if a new manager is unveiled along with those iconic gates

  • 50 Car Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    toon kk
    U are absolutely spot on unless new man replaces Pards before Christmas

  • 51 WWSBRD // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    A new manager will be picked by Ashley and backed by no one means sod all, little point in curing a symptom whilst letting the disease to continue

  • 52 colwell // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    ilovetoon8788

    Fully agreed mate.

    What annoys me even more is the fact we set out to deal with the opposition instead of making them deal with us. Even at home we play like the away side.

  • 53 wynsleap // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Maybe we can use them as an ‘iconic’ message board and hang notices on them directed at our illustrious owner or indeed, maybe do a Mussolini and hang Ashley on them as well.

  • 54 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    …But still it would be nice to have a manager who knew what he was doing when playing football ;-)

    …money or no money, support or no support!

  • 55 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    The gates were one of MA little ways of trying to win the fans over. The only way he’s going to do that is by sacking Pards and showing ambition in the transfer window

  • 56 WWSBRD // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Jesper
    And which one of Ashley’s friends is that? Kinnear or Harford?

  • 57 Cardboy // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    In front of a wall! Is that the final position for them? Should be across the six yard box judging from the last match lol. Anyway I look forward to the match tomorrow as ever. Hope for a full house. Howdy the lads.

  • 58 toonaids // Aug 23, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    wynsleap
    this is a genius idea
    sick of all this talk on blogs, and banners at the stadium with cockney mafia out written in dog shit
    this would be alo tmore affective, a two fingers up to the regime, and then we should all streak on the pitch covered in our own fecal matter, watch the attention that gets!

  • 59 Wiz // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    They don’t seem to go anywhere. A perfect metaphor.

  • 60 thai-mag // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    tired players, the most players out with injury in premier league, 8 players now with injuries, Taylor banned for 3 games, Cabaye wanting to be away so wont be involved tomorrow, loads of players out on loan, 3 players shown the door without getting any replacements, I think the ST James Park tea lady might find herself on the bench tomorrow

  • 61 fatman // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    toonaids

    good idea show us tomorrow the best way to do it, well all follow you, if I’m honest.

  • 62 SharpEnough23 // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    My team for tomorrow:

    ——–Krul——-
    Santon-mbwiwa-colo-dummett
    Gouffran-cabaye-sissoko-marveux
    ————Ben arfa——
    ———-Cisse———-

    4-4-1-1

  • 63 colwell // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    If only Carlsberg did fights???

    Pards and MA had a fight to the death and the winner was shot lol

  • 64 cyprus // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    So here we are talking about gates…

    Ed, you said:
    ‘If Newcastle were really ambitious we would have brought in two top strikers, and a young up-and-coming striker, another goalkeeper to make it three experienced goalkeepers at the club, and another top center-back to shore up what seems to be a perennial weakness in the defense.’
    What does that mean? Three strikers, right? WHO’s going to give them the ball?? Or will they play different roles a la Ba (as winger)? Dude no. Even JFK got it right, even though his amazing contacts have now retired or won’t answer the phone: we need pace, we need two wingers and one ‘Bellamy’.

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    BRD…arrggh! syrely he has other friends. we can employ ;-) lol

    …maybe he is good friends with Wenger? lol. …I hear the Gunners are sick and tired of him!

  • 66 musomag // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Presumably the gates were only propped against the wall during the restoration….anyway, who cares? The only gates I’d be interested in seeing at SJP is Bill Gates as new owner.

    The top 5 finish season was a complete fluke fuelled by Ba then Cisse hitting form and a large dose of luck. We won loads of games that we should rightly have lost that season. There I’ve said it.

  • 67 WWSBRD // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    jesper
    Doubt it mate might get Beardo as a mouth piece but that’s probably the best option as long as Ashley’s knocking about

  • 68 Mr Magpie // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    If cabaye is to be sold, there was reported interest from man utd earlier in this transfer window. Not sure if they are still interested but what do you think to the chances of getting Hernandez in as part of a deal?

  • 69 cyprus // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    musomag,
    How dare you? Yet, you are right regarding that top 5. And we did actually get spanked a few times too.

  • 70 SharpEnough23 // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Hernandes is a poacher if we could get him in a deal letting cabaye go the other way he would get no service and I doubt make a huge difference

  • 71 wolfshead@toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    colwell

    pmsl

  • 72 Wiz // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    I see I am hardly first with my previous observation. I should have read the blog first. But now I have, and detect for the first time a real sense of mutiny amongst the rank and file. It is becoming more inconvenient to support our club than to abandon a dearly beloved part of our culture and focus on the rest of our lives. Once Newcastle United becomes more dispiriting than going out to work on an exploitative salary, perhaps on a zero hours contract, and trying to pay the bills, football tribalism is in serious jeopardy. There is loyalty and there is joy. Once the first stops being a source of the second the whole football soufflé starts to deflate. And I don’t know about you, but I am pretty nearly there, guys and gals.

  • 73 WWSBRD // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Hernandez turned down a move already this season and why would a CL quality striker move to us?

  • 74 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    I’m going to see how we come on against West H if we’re sh.t which I expect us to be I’m heading down the bookies to have a few quid on us going down. Decent bet if you ask me.
    We’ll be relying on other teams to do worse than us to stay up.

  • 75 Wiz // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    musomag, we played poorly quite often the season we finished fifth. On the other hand, who can forget our inspiring performance against Stoke away? Has Pardew ever set up a team so brilliantly as he did that night? Then we tailed away badly at the end of the season. It was obvious what was going to happen as soon as the players could see there wasn’t much glory to play for. And now they can see the owner has lost confidence in the manager, who has to inspire them. Pardew is a stoical, resilient, imaginative manager whose legs have been shorn off by Mike Ashley, who cuts a bit more off every time he gets disappointed, and insists that he do more with even less.

  • 76 Mr Magpie // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    SharpEnough23
    Fair point about him being a poacher, not seeing many options available to get in a striker to hold the ball up though. Maybe they might SUPRISE us & bring in 2 decent wingers who can provide a bit of natural width & service…a right back who can defend, a centre back with some pace, a striker to hold the ball up bringing others into the game & a replacement for cabaye should he leave in the remaining days of the transfer window. Yeah i know, not likely but here’s hoping!!

  • 77 SharpEnough23 // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Were 4-1 to go down

  • 78 Wiz // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    toonkk, you’ll get a better price after our two games at home, which might produce four points, and everyone will be sighing with relief. But relief would be inappropriate, and would disguise the truth, which is that we are hopelessly demoralised, and the players don’t want to play for our eunuch manager. I think we are going down, and changing the manager will make no difference.

  • 79 AaranD // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Gates for a road to nowhere, just like the Club itself.

  • 80 geordie157 // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    I think tomorrow is the perfect chance to give gosling a start, he’s finally fit give him a chance. he’s a genuine box to box player and i’m sure he’s learnt his lesson after his stupid sending off.

  • 81 dcdick // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Pardew out !!!

  • 82 2_goal_tino // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    With Willian signing for Chelsea to go along with their disgustingly large array of immensely talented attacking midfielders, really think we should see if Kevin de Bruyne or Moses are available for loan. Either would provide us with a huge amount of creativity.

  • 83 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Geordie157
    Agree with you there, at least the lad tries.

  • 84 Rotonda heights // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Wiz

    Pardew may be many things but imaginative !!!

    It took him over half a season to see that Ba and Cisse didn’t work in a 442 and even then was it more of a case that Ba left?

    I would say he is the least imaginative manager I’ve ever seen and any bit of good form in that one off 5th place season was almost by default, ie Raylor getting injured because I couldn’t see Ben Arfa getting a game until then.

    Imaginative means not picking the same players regardless of form, playing pass and move football with people in their right positions and making inspired subs, not just Shola all the time.

    It may not have been the right way round but Pardew got his SIX players in Jan plus Remy to replace Ba now, so let’s see if he can really manage. History suggests otherwise.

  • 85 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    2goal tino
    Yep good idea just a pity Mashley wouldn’t want to pay their wages.

  • 86 Rotonda heights // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    157

    As much a i was hoping Gosling would come through, in truth he’s really shown next to nothing on the occasions I’ve seen him

  • 87 theartfuldodger // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Iv been reading this blog since a long time and the change is so clear. People dont expect transfers, less discussions on players to buy, few discussions on lineups. And thers hopelessness even if pardew does go.
    Only sarcastic laughter at pardew, jfks excuses.

    What a sorry state of affairs !

  • 88 Rotonda heights // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    fatman

    that would be brilliant and relatively easy to learn the words to.

  • 89 Jail for Ashley // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    We all know our despotic owner is not stupid, I don’t think any self made billionaire is, and when he is being accused of not having a clue how to run a football club I think again he has run us to maximise his use rather than our entertainment, but this time I really think he has lost the plot and his absolutely clueless as what to do next, I remember reading that pitiful statement about how because we don’t like him anymore and call him fatty, he is refusing to bank roll the club, now he is stuck in his childish stance with the other alternative spending some money to pull us out of the sh!te and it seems that the self made billionaire has finally ran out of ideas.

  • 90 Our Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    The 4-3-3 formation worked a treat but to accomodate Ba we changed it to a 4-4-2, to be fair this can also work but we need to be less rigid with that formation and let players interchange positions.

  • 91 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    So presumably all the really negative people who think that we’re doomed also think that we’re going to lose tomorrow?

  • 92 Jail for Ashley // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    The irony is if the fusker takes us down again and sells up putting us into administration what good has his six years of dross been in place of financial stability !!!

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    TDsarf,
    I hope we are not going to lose but as long as we sell lots of pies I’m sure you’ll be happy.

  • 94 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Rotonda……@86
    Who have you seen much from apart from Krul and Benny?

  • 95 Wiz // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Rotonda, he’s imaginative in terms of techy stuff and innovative training methods and performance measurement. I agree with you about rigidity of thought when it comes to formations. Ba and Cisse were picked because they were his only attackers. Ryan Taylor has been a real miss, in my view.

  • 96 Ginger // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    This is by far the most depressing transfer window ever. Last year was dreadful even though we got Anita and a few promising youngsters in. I was hoping that this year would be better.

    Fast forward a year and we have an injured striker who could get done for rape on loan and may be selling arguably our best player.

    Well then.

    Come on Kinnear, prove us all wrong and get some friggin players in! Surely it can’t be this hard.

  • 97 Our Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Krul

    Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Santon

    Tiote Sissoko

    Gouffran HBA Marv

    Cisse

    Get Benny, Marv and Gouffran to have free roles the 2 defensive

  • 98 Wiz // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Gosling was good in the Blackpool friendly, by all accounts. Playing in a forward midfield position and splitting the defence and all sorts.

  • 99 theartfuldodger // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Jail For Ashley@89
    Perhaps the lack of cheap skilled labour in football anymore.
    ( his sweatshop business model )

  • 100 Our Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    2 defensive players to cover them, would work much better and give us more creative freedom which I think these lads would relish

  • 101 count // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Jail…

    “The irony is if the fusker takes us down again and sells up putting us into administration what good has his six years of dross been in place of financial stability !!!”

    Sells up putting us into administration……? Eh? How?

  • 102 Our Toon // Aug 23, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Wiz

    Ryan Taylor is pants, sorry but he was very poor as a player. Haidara and Santon (who I personally think was one of our better performers last season) are much better. RTaylor has no place in the team!!

  • 103 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    I get the impression some of the more experienced players players arnt giving 100% or the training is so poor there picking up to many bad habits.

  • 104 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    JfA

    I couldn’t give a stuff about the pies. Stop picking debates on the accounts. I’m the one telling people to stop willing us to sell players! I’d rather have the players than the money!

  • 105 musomag // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    For what it is worth I would also give Gosling a start in place of Jonas. That injury might just be the first step towards sorting out the mess Pardew has been fielding

  • 106 elpaso_geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    1. Pardew is so negative, excuses for West Ham already. Tiredness ????????????? wtf
    This comment should be the turning point for every fan in the ground tomorrow , JFK cannot be any worse than this prickk…..

    2. Who genuinely gives a Fcuk about the ‘ICONIC GATES’ ? no one mentioned them when the disappeared …

    Am just about hanging on to this club by my fingertips until this whole regime changes

  • 107 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    BRD…I would like to think we have better options than Pardew!

    …I like the old gaffer, just not as our manager. Joke won’t get the job; it would probably just kill him. I don’t like him, but I wouldn’t wish death on him!

    What about Eddie Howe or Lee Clark?

  • 108 Yohan Kebab // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    i am that despondent i would rather have kinnear in charge than pardew right now

  • 109 Wandering Geordie // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    shame we weren’t unveiling a player or two

  • 110 Mr Magpie // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    We are certainly not doomed but new signings would certainly lift both fan, player & manager morale. We have a good set of players in our squad but the formation played needs to work to their strengths. The players played in the correct positions, fully fit, motivated correctly & able to go out to play flowing, attacking creative football. Not convinced under the current management we are going to see that but still capable of getting a convincing win tomorrow.

  • 111 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Simple replacement for Jonas…Cabaye…hopefully!

    The only real debates are surely Dummett v Santon and Tiote v Anita and Goofy v Marv aren’t they?

    If Cabaye doesn’t play then surely Tiote Anita and Sissoko will and either Vuckic, Marv or Gosling on the bench to cover that area…

  • 112 agent007 // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    007 thinks good times are coming anyone else going to CHEER the toon on the morra i will be in the crowd heart and soul first home game

  • 113 Jail for Ashley // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    count,
    How am I supposed to know I’m an electrician not a fuskin accountant.

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    I remember on Monday night the commentator saying that Jonas wouldn’t have been playing if Cabaye was in the team, so why wasn’t Anita playing.

  • 115 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    JfA

    I’ve never actually seen Anita do anything incredible to be honest, so I don’t get all the hype I have to say.

    Jonas actually played pretty well until he went off.

  • 116 kilcline // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    We are in deep trouble, we just don’t have a footballing clue. Something is very rotten in the backroom staff, i have not seen a team with no plan in along time, oh yeah, the one we got relegated with.

  • 117 DevonToon // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Question… if cabaye does stay, would you all be happy him walking strait back in the team after his blatant bullpoop, ” my head aint right “. I personally think he should sit out a few, earn his shirt again the cheeky ####

  • 118 musomag // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Jonas doesn’t know how to kick a ball….that is more than unfortunate considering his choice of career

  • 119 toon kk // Aug 23, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Imo our squad arnt match fit again so expect more injuries.
    Our talented players are totally wasted under pards, he might as well just have players from the championship. MA is to thick to realise he’s actually wasting his money on some quality signings if there not properly managed. Having said that Mashley just wants to make money and Pards doesn’t ask for much.




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