Newcastle’s Ambitions Similar To Manchester Clubs – Really?


Alan Pardew has made some comments in the local papers today, and one of the things he says is very difficult to prove – almost impossible to prove – given what we’ve seen in this summer’s transfer window so far.

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Alan Pardew – we have same ambitions as the two Manchester clubs

And that is that Newcastle’s ambitions match those of the two Manchester clubs, although Alan is again very quick to point out we cannot compete with them financially.

Now let’s see what can we say about that – let’s ponder the statement for a moment.

We’ll be polite and say that statement from Alan Pardew is simply simply not accurate – and that conclusion is based on actions Newcastle have taken over the last couple of yeas.

What’s those sayings again about actions speak louder than words – and talk is cheap?

Last season we messed around trying to get Mathieu Debuchy through the door, and the same thing is happening this season with Bafe Gomis, although that doesn’t seem to be Newcastle’s fault, this time around.

And reports that Newcastle have been given £60M from the new TV deal are simply not accurate – that money is dished out next May and it’s based on league position, how many times each club have been on TV, and other things.

But it is still true nevertheless, that PL clubs are spending big money this summer,  knowing they will get that pay-out at the end of the season.

This is what Alan Pardew said when told  the ambitions of the club just don’t seem to be there these days:

“We can’t compete with Manchester United or Man City, they are stratosphere clubs for us.” “Spurs have got themselves in a position where they could possibly compete and it’s taken about five or six years.”

“But we are not there yet.” “Neither are Arsenal or Liverpool.” “Man United and Man City are light years ahead of us in terms of finance.” “Their ambition is no more than us.” “But they do have a financial position over us.”

“I think in some ways the Remy deal has been a bit unfair.” “He’s injured. He would have given us a different reflection.” “I don’t care how you weigh it up, it’s a great deal, for any club to get Remy on the financial deal we did.”

Alan Pardew can say those words, but they are simply not backed up by the club’s actions.

If Newcastle were really ambitious we would have brought in two top strikers, and a young up-and-coming striker, another goalkeeper to make it three experienced goalkeepers at the club, and another top center-back to shore up what seems to be a perennial weakness in the defense.

Instead, we have signed one top striker on loan, and there’s only 11 days left in the transfer window – so we haven’t shown much ambition at all, and for  lot of the time we’ve looked incompetent in this summer’s transfer window.

That’s the truth, the sad truth. 🙁

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111 comments so far

  • tequilamag

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #1

    I don`t normally post much anymore because frankly the blog is full of whinging brats but Rotonda just for you. I know you love to rewrite history and you have done that twice this morning,. The Mansoors never made a bid for Newcastle. Post the proof if you think I am wrong . The other whopper was that we and Spurs were on the same l,evel 2 years ago,
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9255617/Revealed-the-financial-health-of-the-Premier-League-laid-bare.html

    If you use the filter button for finance you will seeSpurs were not a kick in the arse off twice our income.

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  • Our Toon

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #2

    REPOST

    Tynesidetommo

    Look at Pardew’s record at all clubs rather than a one off flash in the 5th finish….which I have to say was impressive but same squad finished where the following season?

    I agree Guiterriez works hard for the team and in a team we need grafters, but as a winger he needs to offer more going forward, could be the managers request that he plays as a defensive winger though!! You are spot on though with the comment of you don’t become a bad manager by finishing 5th hence why he has only achieved this once in his career. Form is temporary (5th) being awful at your job is permanent (16th)

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #3

    Good post, Our Toon. Right on.

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  • Toon1978

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #4

    Well you bunch of brats according to some :! Pardew is speaking utter garbage. On one hand he says we are just as ambitious as the Manchester clubs but on the other hand is saying we can’t compete…EHHHHHHHH?????

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  • Wiz

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #5

    What Pardew means is that we might be in the gutter, but our eyes are fixed on the stars.

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  • Ben3arfa

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #6

    Pardew is like a dictator’s information minister , full of bull crap that no one buys.

    He is such a moron

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  • lesh

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #7

    Ambition? Not a chance

    We’re showing as much ambition as a cow pat under the current ownership.

    I honestly can’t understand what motivates Ashley’s ownership of Newcastle United when he seems content to risk £100s of millions by effectively appointing Kinnear to run the football business. Christ, I’m sure that Age Concern wouldn’t even take him as a volunteer in any capacity!

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  • AusMagpie

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #8

    So f#cking over this clown. Just get the f#ck out of our club. I’ll find it hard to believe if there is a Newcastle fan who is even remotely happy with our situation.

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  • lesh

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #9

    Wiz @5

    Lying in the gutter plastered and gazing helplessly at the stars!

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  • stu mel

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #10

    I might have read wrong but did someone say it would be good for the club to have cabs, benched if he is to stay as he would get injuries, that would benefit the club and keep his hi value up. What are you talking about that is nonsense all that would happen is his figtue would be all over the place. His football brain blunted. But most of all his price will drop.ash probs knows this looking at the fact he didn’t seem to hold any stock in the fact we need fringe player.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #11

    Ambitious ….stop laughing down the back. Rotunda, at least you are big enough to admit that in defending Ashley you took the wrong view. We all have passionate feelings, and I respect the opinion of Billson greatly. But the number of bad things this man has done far outweigh the positives. Just to dream…..wealthy new owners, a recognised, talented manager, and Keegan as DOF, selling our club around europe. Back to reality now, sorry….

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #12

    Tequila

    Nice to hear from you ( twice in fact) just to make your point . At 52 I’m probably a bit old to be a brat but thanks any way.

    I get it, you accept mediocrity or may be even thrive on it more to the point. Other’s don’t. Each to their own I guess.

    Seriously you’re not really disputing that Spurs are not in a much more desirable position than we currently find ourselves. You’re not really going to do that are you Teqs old boy?

    Look at the headline and tell me which is Pardew : a liar or arrogantly deluded. No prizes though. I await your next insult.

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  • Toon1978

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #13

    Rotonda heights (12)

    Well said.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #14

    So we can compete with city and united in ambition but our managerisays ”thank god we haven’t got europe again”…….er..ok!!!!

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  • stu mel

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #15

    To be fair people are forgetting they are different word and have different meanings. Eg is Ian holloways as ambitious as abv I think they are. Do I think at the moment they can compete on an even playing field answer no. What he say make sense.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #16

    Munster

    You had me living the dream there for a glorious minute!!

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #17

    Love the new banner Ed!!!

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  • Ben3arfa

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #18

    Alan Pardew makes signing a player out to be something similar to breaking out of a maximum security jail.

    He probbaly is right when you look at the abilities of the people around him (Ashley/Kinnear/Charneley).

    SCUM SCUM SCUM

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  • fray bentos

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #19

    @Rotonda 12

    haha blatantly ignore the points made by Tequila and make your own new one

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #20

    Ausmagpie

    There is still one. His name is Tequila

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  • Toon1978

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #21

    At this rate i think we will be very lucky to keep Cabaye and see one more signing. Here’s to hoping i am completely wrong lol. I admire Mr Ashley for pulling the club from the depths of oblivion lol but other then that, he fails miserably.

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  • Bearsize

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #22

    Pardew talks poo!

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #23

    Rotonda I never said I was happy with the situation. What is there to be happy about. Still no reason to make stuff up to suit your own world view. Still waiting for the Mansoor link

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #24

    Ausmagpie

    hold that thought, there’s Fray as well, or is there…..!!!

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  • foggonridiculous

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #25

    To keep myself positive I am picturing the three stooges – MA, AP and JfK as Punch and Judy characters…

    MA is obviously Punch ferociously wielding the baseball bat…

    AP is Judy …

    …..though I have had to substitute:

    “Where’s my new players….?” for

    “Where are my sausages…?”

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #26

    Tequiklla

    Totally unprovable, just what I heard from a few different sources

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  • theartfuldodger

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #27

    Problem with giving Pardew a lot more time is that negativity is being transferred to players. Some people saying our squad is overrated. After some time we will be telling debuchy sissoko theyr not fit for Top flight football. That is very demoralizing with no easy way back.Not a good thing to deal with for a new manager either.

    Pardew knew with Llambias that he would be judged on points and not performance. Even park the bus would do.Perhaps JFK can have a wholesome view.

    Whatever you do, just stop this passing the the buck around game between kinnear pardew and players.

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  • foggonridiculous

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #28

    …oh and JfK is the Crocodile…. 🙂

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  • curmon

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #29

    Pardew is a complete and utter BULL****TER.

    Same ambition as Mancs, I think Not

    Cabaye World Class, since when.

    When we get beaten by West Ham, he will be grateful that his excuses have lined up nicely, not his fault, no Taylor, No Guti, cabaye unhinged, how can we win we have been so badly afflicted by Lady Luck. In short he is a complete tosser.

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #30

    Rotonda, so basically what you heard down the pub. With impeccable sources like that it must be true.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #31

    Teqqy

    If you want to defend the current situation and all it stand for that’s undeniably your call, but why insult others who want a different way?

    If all was rosy in the garden why is there such an all embracing negative buzz around the place?

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  • Ibizatoon

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #32

    Rotonda… I think his point on Spurs were not that they haven’t kicked on well or haven’t left us in their dust, but that they already were 2 years ago and already had approximately double our income.

    It’s not about excusing our club and it’s actions, nor accepting them, just pointing out that “2 years ago we are on a level with spurs or at least not too far away.” isn’t exactly accurate.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #33

    Teqqy

    I actually read it on here a few times from a few different people but admittedly it didn’t come from that bastion of the truth – your good self.

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  • bills-son

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #34

    On Pardew,

    Why do you think he is the 2nd longest serving manager in the Prem after Wenger??

    BECAUSE MOST MANAGER’S FAIL – THAT’S WHY.

    Even Manchester City and Chelsea with all their millions have seen fit to change their managers umpteen times in the last few years.

    Take Ferguson and Wenger out of it and most Prem clubs change their manager more regularly than some fans change their kecks. Where does it get them – mostly, nowhere further forward at all.

    The gulf between clubs regularly playing in the Champs Lge – ManU, City, Chelsea, Arsenal is so huge that even Spurs – the most likely to break into that group – struggle to sign a player when one of those four come in – aka Willian with Chelsea.

    If Pardew leaves who comes in? It won’t be a Mourinho, Pellegrini (who might bomb anyway) or Ancellotti it will be a Poyet or some other ‘up and coming’ manager who the track record tells us will last less than two seasons before they are sacked – and the merry go round starts again.

    Changing managers nearly always means changing players, coaches and backroom staff at huge expense – for a short term blast of a ‘new exciting era’ that is anything but.

    I’m not saying don’t change Pardew, but finding a new manager who will achieve real results and success and make us into genuine regular top six contenders is another thing altogether.

    SBR was the last one – and Shepherd sacked him.

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #35

    Rotonda, I will explain it to you again. I am in no way shape or form happy with what has happened this Summer. Please find me a post where it says I am.JFK set the tone and it has like been watching a slow motion car wreck all Summer.
    My issue is that there is plenty to criticise without making up fairy stories like we were on a level with Spurs 2 years ago when they had twice our income and this utter BS story about the Mansoors wanting to but us but ASH wanted 800 mill.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #36

    Teqqy

    There you go, Ibiza made the point without any animosity or insults whatsoever. A lesson to be learnt there my friend.

    Ibiza

    back on that fence. Only joking mate.

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  • fray bentos

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #37

    @Rotonda 33

    It really is a good idea to take what you read on here with a pinch of salt

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  • geordiemark

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #38

    think st nicks is calling for pardew, come on mr pardew a nice white coat is wating for you its called a straight jacket and look we have multi coloured tablets you can take as well they will put you on different planets but not the planet your already on which isnt this one by what he says and does ………………. nut case

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  • JaxtheMag

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #39

    pardews 100th game tomorrow , hope its last. you would think the would be breaking there necks to make a signing today to give us alift. lol

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #40

    bills son

    on the back of one good season pardew got a ridiculous contract that ash is unwilling to buy him out of. No need for conspiracy theories on that one.

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