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Newcastle’s Best Player Yesterday A Pleasant Surprise

10:08 am, Sunday, August 25th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 552 Comments

It wasn’t a good performance by Newcastle yesterday,  and we could easily have lost our second game in a row this season, but there are obviously some problems in the squad with Yohan Cabaye’s current refusal to play, and that will hardly have helped the situation.

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Vurnon Anita – Newcastle’s best player yesterday

So rather than go on too much about the negatives yesterday, there were a number of positives that came out of the game:

  • Vurnon Anita stepped in again for the missing Yohan Cabaye and is easily leading the poll for Newcastle’s best player with 42 % of the vote
  • Anita and Moussa Sissoko combined well in central midfield, and while Moussa is still a player who has things to learn, he will improve and made some good surging runs to give Newcastle some energy in the engine room yesterday
  • Davide Santon had a good solid game in his first game of the season, and looked a good player and gave his all for the club – and he had to with local lad Paul Dummett challenging  strongly
  • The defense was reasonably sound,  and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa has a great chance to solidify his position as Newcastle’s first choice alongside captain Fab Coloccini in central defense,  with Steve Taylor missing three games after his red card at the Etihad
  • Coloccini himself played solidly in defense, and kept the back line together for our first clean sheet of the season and Tim Krul was good as usual
  • Ben Arfa made some good runs,  but had nothing to show for them at the end of the game – but he was willing and able to run at the West Ham defense, and that’s how this lad creates chances for the team

These are difficult times for Newcastle, and it’s always good to see players like Anita, Sissoko, Santon, Ben Arfa, Colo  and Mapou (and others) play their hearts out for the club, and that’s exactly what we need from our players right now.

Anita is a very good technical player,  who obviously found things difficult in his first season in England last term, but it was a promising performance from the 24 year-old yesterday.

And it was his 37th appearance for the club, and his performance augers well for the future,  if the Dutch International can keep turning in performances like this one for Newcastle.

Here’s the poll and there’s still time to vote if you haven’t already done so.

Who Was Newcastle's Best Player Against West Ham

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552 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Shola Ameobi got 24 votes

    Must be the West ham fans

  • 2 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Mot7,
    This is the Campbell that wasn’t brought off the bench as Carlisle lost 1-0 yesterday? I’m a big fan of the lad, but to say he would have had any impact yesterday is ludicrous.

  • 3 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Anita MOM and no doubt gonna be dropped next week

  • 4 yo-yo // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Repost from previous …..Tommyy @ 1

    That says it all – there is no strategy at all. It is simply a market trader trading players as and when they make a buck.

    Greeboll

    The risk of brinkmanship in starving Pardew of the right players to make a half decent team is that the side goes tits up and we get relegated. Almost made it last season – perhaps Mashley will go one better this year ?
    You have to remember that Alan Pardew is not the real problem – the guy who hired him is…

    B&W with an Army

    We all know that Cabaye will be sold and we will not bring in a replacement – just like Ba and AC. They are totally unable to plan ahead. IF ONLY we had a replace before we sell policy like Spuds.

    At the beginning of the window a number of posters on here including Bills – said this was the window that would prove or disprove Ashley’s intent, ambition and commitment. Well he is definitely committed to money… but beyond that…

    I like Anita and think he may well prove to be classier than Cabaye and with a much better temperament. Surely the key is how well the mod 3 combine ? If he and Mousaa get an understanding that is worth a lot to us

  • 5 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Indian,
    Shola was poor yesterday, but still did more than our other 2 strikers have done so far this season…..

    I’m amazed Ben Arfa has so many votes. He cost us yesterday with his greed.

    Anita and Santon deserve to be up their, thought MYM was better than Colo. Sammi definitely showed more than Marveaux from the bits I saw, but his final ball is awful. Stone could cross as a winger back in the day, how come we can’t manage to get a single player to put a decent ball in the box??

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    Sparky,
    Funny isn’t it. People will tell you Anita isn’t good enough, but in the league games he has started he must have been MOM on here at least 75% of the time….

  • 7 Edd Case // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    I’ve changed my mind a little after yesterday…

    I don’t think we’re as bad as some might think. West Ham are not that bad a team either, nothing special but they will beat their fair share of teams – which makes me believe we will too…we’re not really far off a having a very good team.

    Some points from yesterday which I feel are encouraging.

    1. We look much better without STaylor. YMB / Colo is a much better combination, Taylor is an idiot and costs us points.
    Debuchy, being told to hold back a bit, also looked better.

    2. Cabaye is gone, fact. He’s not playing because we don’t want him injured, can’t sell a crocked player.
    And good. Anita is better at passing, calmer and bloody well deserves some starting time. We WILL COPE without Cabaye.

    3. Shola cannot handle a full game and when he gets tired, he fouls, and fouls, and fouls some more, stopping our flow and attacks, time after time…

    4. Remy and Cisse, with HBA and Marv will be a top forward 4.

    5. Sissoko maybe trying a bit too hard but in parts, he looked awesome again. The passion and desire is there for all to see.

    6. Krul still can’t kick a ball to a team mate. I’d let him go too (for £10M +) and have Elliott in the team no problem.

    7. Overall we did ok, considering we got battered in the previous match.

    We need some better quality up front and in the attacking sense in midfield, defensive cover and bit of calmness back and we’re right back in it.

    Over to you Joe…

  • 8 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    repost

    musomag

    iv’e done my part mate, i didn’t renew my season ticket and haven’t bought any more toon tops, i’m only watching the games at home online

  • 9 musomag // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    A boycott would be good but not as effective as a midweek, 50,000 fan protest outside SJP. That WOULD force a response from the club. Bring the town to a complete standstill in the middle of the day, it’ll make nationwide news and actually give our unhappiness a voice that Ashley & Co will hear and finally have to react to.
    IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW FANS
    Let’s actually get these clowns out of our club or force them to start pulling their weight….they’ve certainly got enough of it.

    I’d be there, would you?

  • 10 yo-yo // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Edd case

    Love the optimism – wish I felt the same way but I’ve been ground down by the ownership’s attitude. Totally agree about Anita – but we still need another creative player, probably a left sided winger who can cross properly and ideally another classy CB – (better than Saylor for example).

  • 11 musomag // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Black and White,

    That’s a really good start my friend but I’d be much happier hearing that you’ve rushed out to buy a new season ticket because we’ve got OUR great team back. We really need positive action and media coverage.

  • 12 Twatter // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    @7

    Living in cloud cuckoo land, mate. What’s the weather like up there? You want to sell Krul, do you? Well, with the Amazing Rob Elliott on the bench, who needs him, eh? Sissoko was awesome, was he?

  • 13 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    i think Sissoko would be best as a AMC, when he runs with the ball in CM you can tell he’s an threat running at defense from that position, imagine playing as a AMC like he did against Chelsea he could bag about 10+ goals

  • 14 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Edd Case @ 7

    1. Yesterday we looked better without Taylor but if West Ham had played Carroll would you be saying the same thing today?

    2. I agree Cabaye is gone and Anita did well but we can’t allow ourselves to have only one playmaker / attacking midfield player. We have to strengthen in that area. Could Marveaux be cover for Anita?

    3. Shola is past it, I agree.

    4. Remy and Cisse with Ben Arfa but not Marveaux as he isn’t a winger. Better to get Ince. The best position for Marveaux is in the middle. It was so noticeable how much better we were when Sammy was on the wing.

    5. Agree about Sissoko.

    6. Agree Krul kicks too much. As we now have only two keepers, why would we want to sell one of them?

    7. I disagree. Overall we didn’t do well. No shots on target. West Ham could have easily have scored. Nolan missed a sitter.

  • 15 stan anderson // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Shola was his normal self, in that he does nowt but give away silly fouls and not contribute anything to the match.He would not get a game at any other club in top flight.But the Arsehole in charge picks him regardless.I just dont get it .

  • 16 numba9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Cabs like ba realises that this regime has no ambition to kick on sign a few players at the right times and push other teams and the evidencis there for all to see .if pockets big transfer fees aswell as sky dosh and spends very little or wants freebies and loans employs a fall guy kinear on sh1t wage but still cash that could be better spent on match day staff …. This greedy leach needs to go

  • 17 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    musomag

    only time i will by tickets and that’s when the 3 cockney dogs has left

  • 18 jimiley // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Keep the faith in Big Mike and Percy. We need to be patient. Within 10 years they will deliver success to this club.

  • 19 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    I think a lot of you are missing the point…a half decent manager can make this club great again…we already have a good squad and will have a much better one once Cabs and Cisse have gone…(we might lose Krul as well be the way but we will get at least 4 through the door before the end of the window)

    Pardew has not found a way of effectively joing midfield and attack which is woeful looking at what players we have.

    Ashley might not be everyones favourite but he has financed the assembly of a very good squad.

    All we need to transform the club on the pitch is a good manager…very very simple but we’ll have to wait til the day after the window closes because no player will come if we sack him now…that’s why I bet on Pardew being sacked in September when in reality he deserves to be sacked now

  • 20 cockneymafiaout // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Lilongwe geordie

    Even though am ben arfas biggest fan, I have to agree with you he was nowhere the near the same impact as other times.

    But with the pathetic movement of our strikers, anyone will struggle.

  • 21 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    stan anderson

    it’s simple mate AP ain’t a manager, i would love to know how he passed his courses or badges, he must off bribed some 1

  • 22 jimiley // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Stan Anderson,

    Shola is a loyal servant of the club and should be recognized for his efforts. He is a mackem slayer. When Jonas returns and supplies the bullets for Shola with his accurate crosses, I am sure the goals will fly in. Shola and Cisse and the guy on bail for rape will score 15 goals each. We will be top 8 easy.

  • 23 Twatter // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Wonder if Cabaye will end up sitting on PSG’s bench for the rest of the season. That’s probably the ambition he’s missing. I know when Ba’s up here he goes for meals with Cabaye, maybe he’s been telling him how cosy it is on the Chelsea bench and that’s convinced him to leave.

  • 24 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    People on this forum live in a total Ben Arfa fanny haze. …. he can’t do any wrong… gets compared to Messi… do me a f##king favour. … he couldn’t lace Messis boots.
    He is dangerous running at people but doesn’t choose the right option and had so much to learn is untrue for a player his age.

    Anita was different class and almost always man of the match when he plays a proper footballer. .. his first touch is brilliant. .. needs to play we ruin him.

  • 25 Matt // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Edd case another thing about Krul aswell is when he has the ball he holds it for far too long ie from a corner when we could be hitting teams on the counter or is it pardew telling him to do so

  • 26 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Cockneymafiaout,
    He could be so good. It is frustrating to see him waste good possession by overdoing it. Remember when he ran the ball out of play yesterday second half? He was in there box, all he had to do was play it between along the 6 yard box, instead he turned out, then turned back and ended up running the ball out of play. We had 2 men in and around the 6 yard box, plus 4 defenders. Hard and low into that area and any touch could send it in. That happens all too often, both yesterday, and against City.

  • 27 musomag // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Ashley, Pardew and Kinnear OUT.

    These are the team changes we need

  • 28 hdavid23 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    We need Shearer back ASAP. He could sort out this mess. Need someone with guts atm.

  • 29 Greebol1892 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    stan anderson

    Dead right.

    jimiley

    ROFL!

  • 30 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Twatter I hope so. .. I’d love to see Cabaye
    Lose his international place because he can’t get a game. ..Wilshire was on arsenal s bench yesterday.
    How funny would it be if yanga sis and debuchy went to world cup and he stayed at home. …I really hate him now

  • 31 catchy in norway // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    MOM by far was anita

    but come on guys, cisse was not our worst player yesterday,

    shola fould or stud still
    goffy did sweet FA and missed a sitter
    debuchy got skinned many times

    at least cisse tried to track back,

    pardew has our players looking worse than they are

    marv, his set plays where the best we have had in a few seasons now,

    and OMG ED, pleasant surprise ,, noooooooo I think if you think back to last season, you will remember, Anita won man MOM awards on here, but was still dropped for spiderman

    it would be a pleasant surprise if he kept his place in the side

  • 32 Twatter // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    @NUFC FOR SALE

    Ben Arfa and Shola were both as bad as eachother yesterday in my honest opinion. The question is how much of the ball do you give to Hatem when he’s doing absolutely nothing with it? Clearly the team doesn’t want to play (which is another issue entirely) but Ben Arfa was sh*te yesterday and that needs to be recognised.

    He needs to mix up his game more if he’s going to have any chance of getting into the France squad. That’s if he ever had one in the first place, what with Deschamps about.

  • 33 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    hell no…keep shearer from getting anywhere near the management of this club…great great footballer…but a sh!te manager and a bit of an arse

  • 34 Twatter // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    The whole reason Cabaye is leaving is purely based on the fact that he’s heard “top clubs” like PSG and Arsenal have really comfy heated seating on their benches. That’s his only reason! That and Mike Ashley, of course. He loves the soft feeling Demba’s been raving on about since he left and wants some for himself.

  • 35 hdavid23 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    not necessarily as manager, but as assistant or whatever… these players really need someone like him now in my opinion… someone who hs the guts to tell Cabaye to f off, or to just have a storming teamtalk to fire them up.. highly doubt Pards or God forbid Joke Kinnear can do that

  • 36 stan anderson // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Jim Iley and myself had a great midfield partnership back in the 60s mind.
    I love the comments on here you can look at it from either perspective.
    More entertaining than the footy we are playing at the moment.

  • 37 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    I can only assume Krul has been told to get the ball up there as quickly as possible, there was one point where the ball was played back to him and there wasn’t one West Ham player in our half and Santon shot back and called for it to feet so that he could turn and run with it and keep it on the ground. Krul completely ignored him and smashed it up the pitch and it was immediately lost. Santon then proceeded to give Krul the hand gestures of exasperation that he wanted it played to his feet.

    Massive worry for me that was. Krul is a good and intelligent player, surely he knows that it would have been better to give it to Santon when he was calling for it.

  • 38 hdavid23 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    i wouldnt necessarily make him manager.. just bring him in as assistant or whatever, his presence would be great in the locker room.. even though he’s an arse

  • 39 yo-yo // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    sparky

    If you think the only problem needing solving is the mediocre manager then you are going to be disappointed if/when he goes.

    The squad is hardly brimming with talent, full of journeymen and with very few flair/ valuable players who can hack it at CL level.
    It isn’t just tactics where we are short

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Shearer back????? Things are bad, but not that bad man! The bloke can stay on that MOTD sofa with his clueless mates for as long as he wants! You realise he has been interviewed by Ipswich, Watford and Cardiff since leaving us, and none of them offered him the job….

  • 41 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Ben Arfa will shine when we begin to pass and move, until then he has no options and he is the sort of player who will not release it until there is a viable option. Of which there so very rarely is for us.

    He is still the only player in our side who can skip past a man and open up a bit of room, in a good team he would then play the through ball if it was on and not blast a shot 50 feet over the bar out of frustration.

    He also won us a lot of corners, if we had any sort of gameplan and aerial threat aside from Mbiwa we’d have scored.

  • 42 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Ben arfa was as bad as shola i cant see that one .
    One was trying to hard and one wasnt trying at all .
    It was once said nufc fans could forgive a player for having a bad game but not one that doesnt put in the effort looks like there all clased the same now.

  • 43 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    I’m a fan of Anita. He’s more exciting to watch than Tiote and actually tries to play football. He does the simple things.

  • 44 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    ben arfa has never known when to pick a pass…even when we played better as a team and he had options available (which he very rarely does now) he still didn’t release the ball at the right time.

    That’s his weakness…one of the best players in the world with the ball at his feet but hangs on to the ball too long and ends up in footballing cul de sacs all the time.

    Again something a good coach could sort out but pardew wants him to score wonder goals out of nothing to get him out the sh!te but the premiership knows him now and know how to shepard him into no-where.

    He needs to change his approach so he could become world class

  • 45 hdavid23 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    ok, not Shearer then, but someone like him.. who is passionate about the club and can fire up the players… someone who has the balls to tell Cabaye to f off…

  • 46 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    At the moment we are so poor due to a culmination of reasons, I firmly believe that with a new manager, new lift and motivation and some attacking tactics and training it would go a huge way to improving us as a unit, of course that would need to be supplemented with a change in transfer philosophy and being willing to back the manager with the players he needs rather than those who are available on the cheap just for the sake of it.

  • 47 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Ideal scenario
    Pardew sacked….gus hydick brought in
    Cabaye sold for 20 million
    Shola and Williamson sold or released. . not bothered which.
    We sign
    Alderweild, Sakho, Micka Richards, Moses, Ba, Gomis, Ince.

    I can but dream

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Hdavid,
    I assume you are conveniently forgetting the problems he caused within the dressing room as a player, and as a manager last time?? I think one of the few things Kinnear has got right was when he said he would have done a better job in those last 8 games than Shearer did.

  • 49 hdavid23 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    ok, not Shearer then… but someone his character who also has a passion for the club.. someone who could fire the players up, sort out the Cabaye situation, etc.. Pardew isn’t tough enough to tell Cabaye what he needs to be told…

  • 50 theartfuldodger // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Guys, should we care about the amount cabaye goes for. After all we dont spend any of that .. 5m or 25m.
    If we are in releagation trouble in Jan, ashley will produce money even if the club was in debt.

    How pessimistic do I sound.

  • 51 Twatter // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    @mot7

    Okay, maybe not quite as bad as Shola. I take that back. But awful anyway. The amount of times he got the ball and did absolutely nothing was unforgivable and I just wish some of the fans here would recognise that at least. Why has he got 203 votes for MOTM? You can’t tell me that’s justified.

  • 52 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    yo-yo…the proof will be in the pudding very soon so we’ll soon see.

    Lets revisit in 6 months time

  • 53 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Shola needs to go asap. Sammi to Wigan on loan is a good move for him. We need to get the 5 players in that we need (Alderweireld, Ayew, Eriksen, Siem De Jong, Ba/Gomis).

  • 54 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Sparky – exactly right, however that is a lot down to him being out single attacking threat. If we had 2 or 3 players moving and using the ball then he’d suddenly become much more effective, able to play it and drift into space.

    What I see is a great player thoroughly frustrated with his lack of options and therefore deciding he has to do it all alone. He needs support and we need an attacking threat that compliments him and doesn’t overly rely on him.

  • 55 thai-mag // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    looking on the bright side, 1 point in the bag, only 39 to go!!!! I just can’t see us getting anywhere near that

  • 56 martoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Edd Case – good to read a well thought out post – I thought I was watching a different match to some of the hysterical posters on here. Our build up play was quite good but we lacked a cutting edge in front of goal but we knew this before the season started which is hopefully why we will bring in another striker and took Remy on loan.

  • 57 cockneymafiaout // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    lilongwe geordie

    Think its a combination of greediness, lack of movement from forward players. And of course all it really takes is a well respected coach unlike Pardew to tell the kid to look up a bit for the pass.

    I remember the situation that you were on about and the whole crowd’s reaction showed the frustration. I just hope that ben arfa keeps up his positivity though because at the minute it is all we have.

  • 58 Edd Case // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Not sure why some of you wouldn’t sell Krul?
    Great shot stopper, decent keeper but one massive part of being a top keeper is not giving away possession – Krul is awful at retaining possession.

    STaylor is a wretched defender. Roars on about ‘passion’ and playing with his ‘heart on his sleeve’ etc – he does this to cover for his very obvious failings. YMB much, much better.

    Anita is class, easily better than Cab’s in many ways but of course lacks the dead ball skills – or so we think as he’s never had a pop at goal or taken a corner that I can think of, perhaps he IS quality there too?

    Marv is a tricky on. Not a winger, perhaps a luxury type ‘in the hole’ type player? Thought Sammy made more of an impact on the left.

    HBA is another luxury player. Selfish, poor decision making but when it works for him, he looks world class – trouble is, he’s so inconsistent.

    I think with what we have, Cisse is still going to be the lone man, fed by Remy on left, HBA on right – this, in theory will work well.
    Tiote holding, Anita playing tidy, neat balls, retaining possession and feeding Remy, HBA and then Sissoko to bomb forward.

    These 6 players, with a strong back four and either Krul or Elliott behind, I think, will be a very good. Trouble is, get any sort of injuries to any of them and we’re knacked, big time.

    This is where we desperately need the likes of Hughes, Ince, Aywe (if true) and another top striker.

  • 59 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    I think then with the correct instructions and some time to implement it he’d become a far better team player.

  • 60 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    I can’t remember his name, but the lad who got man of the match for Orlando Pirates against Kaiser Chiefs hit the nail on the head when it comes to the Ben Arfa issue.

    “Great players win you games, great teams win you trophies”

    Until Ben Arfa learns when to pick a pass and release the ball he will remain a game winner very occasionally, but more often than not will cause the team to suffer.

    However, he is the only bit of excitement watching Newcastle when he runs at players.

  • 61 cockneymafiaout // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    NUFC FOR SALE

    that’s not to dissimilar to the dream I had last night.

  • 62 geordie157 // Aug 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    You can tell when we are struggling a bit, a draw at home vs West Ham is considered a good result. The two concerns for me is lack of strikers and Debuchy, Jarvis isn’t the quickest yet he skipped past Debuchy with ease at times.

    Plus points, Santon had a steady game, Anita got better as the game progressed. Also thought Sammy was useful coming off the bench.

    I forgot to mention the two hoof balls by West Ham that Reid could have scored from.

  • 63 hdavid23 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    so, what would you guys do then? if we sack Pardew, we’ll get stuck with Kinnear… doesn’t seem to be an overwhelming option either

  • 64 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Ed

    I’m confused. First you said

    ” Newcastle were much improved yesterday in the 0-0 draw with West Ham yesterday’

    and now you are saying

    ” It wasn’t a good performance by Newcastle yesterday”

  • 65 stretchintoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    get rid of shola & cisse there both championship material & sign strikers who can score goals @ prem level

  • 66 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Unfortunately for us Cisse is not the player we need right now, we need a Benteke/Ba type who is as comfortable dropping deep and collecting the ball as he is in the box, Cisse is a top 4 striker, not a bottom 4 one. We need a mixture and not an out and out striker.

  • 67 cockneymafiaout // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Edd case

    I like the transfer short list you have there, however they are too overpriced (for ashley anyways)

    And got to go against you with the krul matter, he’s still our best player in so many ways, yeah he isn’t the complete keeper but I am telling you now. This moment in time with Krul in goal I think we’ll stay up barely. Without him I actually think we’ll go down.

  • 68 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    We Geordies tend to go overboard about anyone slightly good. In recent years we have gone overboard about Stephen Taylor, Leon Best, Joey Barton, Hatem Ben Arfa, and, now, Vurnon Anita. Vurnon can clearly see a pass but he is dreadfully lightweight, cannot tackle, and cannot head the ball. Brian Clough would not have touched him with a bargepole. People are in any case confused about whether he is replacing Tiote or Cabaye. In my view both those players are superior to Anita, and that is clearly also Pardew’s view. Pardew is a good coach and an excellent man manager and speaks tripe all the time because he has to cover for the execrable owner. When Pardew was furious on television on Monday night, he was furious with Ashley. He had to pretend to be furious with Arsenal, who have certainly been rude, because he had been told to withdraw Cabaye from the squad. That is why the player has not been fined and why we are hearing absolutely nothing from him, his agent, or his friends. It is also why Pardew can’t answer questions about Cabaye, or even criticise him. The whole thing stinks to high heaven, is tragic, dreadful, cynical, and corrosive.

  • 69 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Don’t think JFK’s health will let him do it. Fingers crossed.

    Despite Pardew’s endless bleating this is still a top 8 squad with a half decent manager in charge and all the Jan signings have had a pre-season with Remy to add on top.

    Any of Poyet, di Matteo, Hoddle, Solksjaer or Bergkamp would do for me

    Head a rumour that A US consortium have agreed a sale in principle but not effective till next season and only if we stay up and Rangers get promoted hence the 8 year deals for Ash’s mates compo.

  • 70 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    at this moment in time i would say JFK would be an improvement over Pardew purely on the basis he’d lift the squad and get rid of the negative style of play and mindset…with the caviat he’s a temporary appointment. I would like to think if your first name begins with ‘G’ then you’ve a good chance of being our next manager

  • 71 Twatter // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    @Tommyy

    Well said. He needs to find a way to influence the game when the team is not on the ascendancy. Ba did that brilliantly. I think Remy is somewhere in between him and Cisse but if we’re gonna insist on this drab football, then we’ll need a big lump to play it off.

  • 72 Partizan // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Tommy..

    Yesterday was complete proof that we’ve assembled a team on financial value and that alone. They’re a ragtag bunch who were cheap for a reason, they’ve all got glaring weaknesses (no touch, too small, one footed, crocked, selfish, no end product etc the list is endless).

    These players won’t develop into a team because they haven’t been assembled like one. Only when the core focus becomes on building a team for footballing reasons and not financial ones, will we ever see any true progression.

    That goes for the manager and coaching staff also.

    Tommy mate,absolutely spot on comment,best description so far for me.

  • 73 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Someone needs to do some work on their mathematical skills

    http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league/30864-arsenal-wenger-plots-newcastle-raid.php

  • 74 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    twatter
    Benny didnt have a great game your right but i was just saying i would rather a player lost the ball trying to create something for the team as benny does .
    Shola for a geordie in a nufc shirt is a disgrace not only a bad player but a lazy player and that i cant forgive.

  • 75 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    HDavid,
    I doubt we will get Kinnear. I expect it will be Beardsley or Harford. One is a huge yes man to Ashley, but will also appease some fans. The other would be the managerial front for Kinnear being involved in coaching and selection.

    Neither appeals to me. I’ve statedthat I would go outside of the usual candidates and look for a more forward thinking approach that would work within the financial constraints. Unlikely to happen though as I doubt Kinnear or Ashley has too much knowledge outside of the box.

  • 76 geordiemark // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    could our wishes come true :)
    http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2013/08/blogs/crystal-palace-to-make-shock-move-for-newcastle-top-dog

  • 77 pardews waxwork lips // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    First post of the season, Anita was great one positive in which is a lot of the time a boring game these days. Even when we won 5 0 is at home it wasn’t that thrilling of a game. The real lack is of another winger and the obvious striker , preferably a left winger. Ben Arfa took the piss yesterday but I Believe, after his comments about that he feels its down to him to unlock teams. That he feels he has to be the spark, the fact is he’s not bale, on any other consistent match changer. We need another player from the left who can add attacking quality not defensive. I think we should attempt to get victor Moses on loan. 4 2 3 1. Ben
    ————-Krul
    debuchy collo mbiwa santon
    ———–Anita sissoko ———
    Remy Ben arfa/(marveux) Victor moses
    ————cisse(gouffran)(another striker?)———-

    People complain about pardew being defensive but a with the addition of one more player lw player pardew could play a 3 1 line of players who could be classed as forwards.

  • 78 Burni // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    I read loads of comments about hba being frustrating. I believe he can be frustrating but all brilliant players need a team that can pick up the pieces. We don’t have that team. We only have a few people who are good enough to compete with the best. Anita, thankfully is showing that he can fill in in the midfield….. Again. I think our defence is our frailty.

  • 79 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Jack lol only the odd million out,must have used a sports direct calculator

  • 80 jimiley // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Why would Krul and Cabaye want to go to Arsenal? They will both stay. They have both said they love the Toon. Are they liars?

  • 81 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    in my opinion anita is one of our best players, he is the kind of player you need to keep play flowing, to give the team a ‘tick’

    it is a shame that cabaye is leaving because a midfield 3 of cabaye anita sissoko is balanced and classy

    having said that, if we made a quality cb signing we could easily play 5 at the back, reducing our need for wingers and getting the best out of debuchy and santon

    as it is if cabaye leaves i would play

    —————————krul
    ———–new cb——colo——mbiwa
    debuchy—– anita ——-sissoko ——-santon
    ———————–ben arfa
    —————–cisse———-remy

  • 82 geordiemark // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Yohan Kebab

    ive been saying 3 at the back for ages most teams play that way now

  • 83 Harley // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    I’d love to see santon at right back with dummet left back, if it doesn’t work we could always change it back.
    Debuchy looks far too slow for that position, every team we play will target him.

    Mbiwa and colo look good together however, their lack of height will cost us at times.

    I’d love to get sakho in a deal for cabaye but I doubt he’d want to come here.

    Sakho, gomis, remy and ince would transform this team and they’re totally realistic targets. With the cabaye money plus what we have set aside for gomis Ashley wouldn’t be out of pocket either.

  • 84 geordiemark // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    if a big offer come in for ben arfa sorry but I would take it

  • 85 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/crystal-palace-news-ian-holloway-2218241

  • 86 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Tiote superior to Anita lol.

  • 87 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    harley…the modern games requires your full backs to be attacking players…dummet doesn’t have that in his locker

  • 88 Harley // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Geordiemark

    Be careful with that wish as JFK will be his replacement.

  • 89 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Wiz

    With respect those aren’t really the facts are they?

    Firstly Pardew most certainly is not a good manager as his extremely average and mediocre CV confirms, ie one 6th place in 14 years and as for good man management skills – really? I’ve never seen such a collectively p—-d off and demotivated bunch of players in my life.

    I guarantee that any of the aforementioned alternatives to Pardew could have : Krul, Colo, Debuchy, M’Biwa, Santon, Sissoko, Cabaye, Anita, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Remy, Tiote, Marveaux, Gouffran, Vuksic, Bigirama, Haidara, Dummet etc, etc top 8 or even higher, but most importantly playing football.

    Pardew can’t do technical modern football as he is much happier with workaday players and 80′s tactics.

    One good season was down to so many factors, but look at Pardew’s CV, yes good starts everywhere then always found out and sacked leaving a dispirited dressing room more often than not.

  • 90 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    yohan..I agree with you and also being saying it for ages…cisse won’t be here though…he’s going this week too…it’ll be gomis and Remy

  • 91 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    one top 6th place

  • 92 Harley // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Sparky

    I totally disagree. I’ve only seen dummet 2 or 3 times but every time I’ve seen him he was bombing forward and looked lightening quick.

    Like I say if it didn’t work we could change it but I’d like to see it tried.

    I would say the most important aspect of today’s full backs is to have pace.

  • 93 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    JB

    we can only dream

  • 94 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    daztoon

    Like everything at the club – It doesn’t add up :D

  • 95 geordiemark // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Harley

    yes very true but his ticker wont be able to take the stick when the fans go mad :)

  • 96 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Sitting in Greece by the pool,lol just thought I wud get that in, I was flying the Geordie flag in Rhodes yesterday, I was speaking to 4 blokes yesterday during the match 2 Liverpool fans and a Everton fan,and they rate is realy high and was saying they wud love loads of are players!! Yes it’s not the best start of the season but we have fantastic players! One or two players to come in and we will be fine, ayre and gomis and we will be set. Remy back!! Lads it’s not all doom and gloom!!!!!

  • 97 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    rotonda…too right m8…Pardew is the cancer and he needs to be removed before it’s terminal.

    Lets hope the rumours re Palace are correct…a perfect scenario if there ever was one…he resigns, no need to pay off his contract and we get someone else in to save the team from it’s obvious downward spiral

  • 98 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    jimiley

    I’m sure you’re being ironic!!

    however

    Arsenal great manager, great footballing side, CL, probably better wages etc etc

    NUFC: Pardew, JFK, rubbish football, relegation battle, less money etc, etc!

  • 99 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Sparky

    we’d never get that lucky!

  • 100 nut meg // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Lilo
    Well said regarding HBA ,his big problem is he doesn’t even look for the pass. He reminds me of jinky Jimmy Smith in the 70′s.He also was great to watch but one good game every 6/7 games is no good if your looking to build a team.We passed the ball around quite nicely until we got over the half way line,that’s when we struggled to do anything.IMHO it couldn’t be more obvious What we need but I’m tired of hearing myself say it.

  • 101 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Hi Rotonda. Pardew got us to fifth, never mind eighth. He has never been in charge of a big team, and small teams tend not to do well. What has Moyes won? Our team is certainly dispirited because Pardew cannot motivate them, and I agree with you he can’t. But I probably differ from you in believing that the reason is not that Pardew is hopeless, but that the players cannot see any improvement in their prospects because the owner is not investing in players. No matter how well they do, they aren’t going to win the league, and even when they finish fifth better players are not bought. This is demoralising, especially when they can see they would earn more elsewhere. Pardew has made one big mistake though. I gather he gets a cut of the value of outgoing transfer fees. But that would have been weaselly old Ashley aligning his interests with those of his executives. It is a giant conflict of interest, and Pardew should have refused to sign such a contract.

  • 102 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Ha, Mike Ashley would be over the moon if someone came in and PAID to take Pardew off his hands! A wet dream scenario for the bloke!

  • 103 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Rotonda

    We are not that lucky mate, even if Holloway is removed from the Palace hot seat (which I really doubt) Ashley would hold out for so much compensation that he would force them to look elsewhere.

  • 104 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    It does seem pardum wants to play a passing game at times you can see it .
    But wanting to play a passing game and being able to coach and manage a team to play that way seem to be beyond him .

  • 105 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    ive been a supporter of cisse ever since he arrived, in the right team he would be an absolute superstar

    unfortunately we no longer fit

    and like in a relationship, if its just not working, sometimes you have to go separate ways

    if cisse and cabaye leave we are going to need some serious impetus added, a creative attacking midfielder being crucial,

    looking back at the team with 5 at the back ive been trying to find weaknesses but i think its very strong both forward and defensively, as the success relies on the wingbacks, and they are custom made for it

    possibly could say 2 in midfield could get overrun against a top team, but you could shove arfa upfront and move sissoko up, slot tiote in, its flexible

    i think 3/5 at the back is the way to go, personally

    since, mbiwa is a perfect outside cb, and santon debuchy perfect wingbacks

  • 106 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    under a good manager it wouldn’t be doom and gloom at all, but this one says ‘thank god we haven’t got europe again!”
    Music to our ears – not!!

  • 107 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    rotonda…keep the faith m8…t’s all gonna change for the better very soon

  • 108 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    interesting…strong rumours of pardew to palace, which ties in with a boys account of saying see you next week to pardew, and him replying no you wont

  • 109 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Mot7

    Unfortunately to successfully play ”pass and move” football, the players have to so the move bit as well!

  • 110 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Yohan Kebab

    Tell us more….!!!

  • 111 Toonfan8 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    who said Cabaye is better than Anita? he won French league, Anita won Dutch league…for me Ajax is better team than Lille and Anita had his position there, their manager De Boer liked him very much, but Pardew hasnt clue how to use him, very clever footballer, always in good position when we have ball and always cover for others when we dont have. For me he is must starter, has more consistency than any other french footballer we have, maybe apart Mbiwa…the true is Mbiwa, Anita, Santon are our best players…good ones are Colo,Sissoko,HBA,Cisse…Remy may be there with the bests…we have to bring one good striker Gomis is good enough and one winger Ince…and one RB as Debuchy isnt fast enough for EPL…

  • 112 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Actually, if I was being really really cynical, it occurs to me that it might not be a conflict of interest from Ashley’s viewpoint. He doesn’t want Newcastle to build a top side. He just wants to make money. So his team manager would have that objective too. No conflict of interest! Blimey, it’s obvious all of a sudden.

  • 113 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Sparky

    Hope so mate, 52 years and counting!! Too late for my 87 year old dad now but at least he saw some silverware in the 50′s!

  • 114 theartfuldodger // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Wiz, I agree that the working of Kinnear and ashley doesent help Pardew motivate the players. I mean seriously, what is their reward if they do well – Lack of transfers, more wages elsewhere, mediocrity.

  • 115 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Nut Meg,
    I can’t possibly think what you are alluding to!! ;-) 1 shot on target (A Tiote strike from 30yards) in 180 minutes. From that one fact we can see what our problem is. We will always struggle to beat teams if we can’t create any chances. Even the best defences in the world will concede occasionally, so not being able to create chances, let alone score goals will see us relegated.

    I still have hope that Rem will offer us something different, but it isn’t enough given his injury record and potential law suit. You say Tadic, I think Ashleywould baulk at paying that. I’d go for Powell, I doubt he would be expensive and is able to play either flank or through the middle. If Man U sign Di Maria/Feilani or anyone for that role then Powell needs to move on to continue progress.

  • 116 OhSholaAmeobi // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    What?! The midfield was static, nobody was supporting the attacks. The best players were Coloccini, Santon and Yanga-Mbiwa, and top marks for Ben Arfa for at least having a go.
    Debuchy and Shola weren’t nearly as bad as everyone says, they were no worse than anyone else. Debuchy only got done once and that was because of Jarvis’ pace.

  • 117 Belfast // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Pardew to palace ? Yes please.

  • 118 nufc_eire // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    I’d doa straight swap of holloway for pardew. They might be the same level of manager as each other but at least Holloway is a bit of craic – sorely needed in NUFC!!

  • 119 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    rotonda, not much more to say, a young lad went to say hello to him and finished like i said earlier with see you next week, to which he replied no you wont

    gotta say he hasnt looked himself and hes lost his zing, maybe he has had the minerals to question ashleys policy, and we all know what happens when someone does that

    although that is purely speculation.

    i would rather have holloway to be honest! who is said to be ‘on the verge of the sack’

    theres just the small matte rof a 7 yr contract remaining,

  • 120 Tommyy // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Pardew isn’t going anywhere unless we’re in the bottom 5 come November.

  • 121 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Toonfan, it was me. I said Cabaye was better than Anita. Which he clearly is. That’s why Wenger and Deschamps want to buy Cabaye and not Anita, and are prepared to pay 15m quid for him. Also, Tiote is better than Anita. Anita has just had a fair game when he was not marked closely, but he didn’t create a single chance. He might have played in Cisse once, almost, but there was no outcome. This is all the kind of hysteria that sometimes gets in the way of realism at our club!

  • 122 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Wiz

    I didn’t know about that. that sounds very fishy and surely a conflict of interests there or illegal practice to take a cut if you punt a player out of the club! Wonder what his cut on Carrol was and may further explain why he never rocks the boat.

  • 123 Belfast // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    I don’t even like Holloway but I would do a straight swap no probs lol

  • 124 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Is it wrong that I’m actually feeling sorry for the Palace fans after Pardew was linked with replacing Holloway???

  • 125 Edd Case // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    In all seriousness, I do wonder how we’d do if a new manager came in. 100 matches for AP and we’re still looking ropey at best.
    How long does he deserve?

    Surely there is someone out there hungrier, with better ideas and a drive to win and get a team playing some decent, attacking football?

    As much as I like he thought of consistency, it’s only a good thing when you’re consistently improving…something we seem to do very little of.

  • 126 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Toonfan, I completely agree with you, though, about Mbiwa.

  • 127 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/371580724656500736/photo/1

  • 128 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Rotonda
    Totaly agreen mate its very rare any of our midfield get past our forwards then again our forwards control the ball like a brick wall .
    I dont know if you ever seen any of keegans training sessions but he always wanted at least 3 options more if possible for the player in possession under pardum its one its called the lump it and stand still its all the rage .
    Barca are sending coaches to watch how we do it.

  • 129 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Edd Case

    It does make me laugh when people say ‘Judge him this season’ hahahahaha – He’s had 100 games to be judged and he’s fallen way, way short imo

  • 130 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    DONT FEEL SORRY…JUST INWARDLY SMILE!

  • 131 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    i think if palace asked him he would leave hes probably as sick of ashley as the rest of us hes prob realised by now ash isnt interested in a succesful club on the pitch just in his wallet

  • 132 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Rotonda, his cut is rumoured to be one per cent of the gross profit. So if the clause was operative at the time of the Carroll deal, he would have trousered £350,000. Not as much as Ashley trousered, of course, but better than a poke in the eye.

  • 133 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    No doubt the Cabaye saga will carry on right up to the last day, Damm just not enough time to get anyone over the line.

    Then Cabaye will get the blame blahblahblah.

  • 134 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    I can’t see pardew leaving if I’m honest.

    But I agree he didn’t seem his normal self. Listening to the full BBC interview online he looks broken. As if he has had enough and things are getting to him. Again he knew what he was getting into when he was offered the job, so no sympathy but its not nice to see anyone that disheartened.

  • 135 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Colwell

    My thoughts exactly. If we sell now Ashley will take the blame for not getting a replacement but if he leaves it a day or two he can put in a couple low bids and when they get rejected say oh well I tried but couldn’t do a deal, not enough time

  • 136 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    What about Eddie Howe or Lee Clarke? I know they probably won’t see more backing than Pardew, but the football should be better!

    …in the end that is what I am concerned about and why I fell inlove with Newcastle!

  • 137 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Why would Pards go to a team that are going down when he could stay at one that might?

  • 138 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    I wish people would stop coming on here demanding a boycott or protest…it’s very tiresome.

    If you want to have an effect, get involved with one of the fans groups or even better, apply to get onto the fans forum. Then, if a boycott or protest is the right thing to do, you can organise it.

  • 139 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Its no surprise that Anita put in a MOTM performance. Most of us have known since last season that he is overall a far superior player then Tiote.

    The only reason why he doesn’t feature as much is because Pardew had no common sense, let alone an iota of knowledge on how to succesfully manage a football team.

  • 140 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Everyday Pardew, JFK and Ameobi remain employed is an insult to the thousands of hard working individuals currently unable to find permanent employment.

  • 141 sparky55 // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I’d take Poyet or a beardsley / Lee Clarke combo

  • 142 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Newcastle had 14 shots off target and none on target, something no other #BPL team has done in the past 8 seasons

    HHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAH and ppl say we have improved after the city game its a JOKE….

    I think fans should cheer the moment a ball goes TOWARDS the goal…

  • 143 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    i think its obvious players are completely lack of self belief under Pardew no amount of signings will change that very simple…..

    need a new Manager right now not a signing…

  • 144 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    jesperfuglsang

    It would be a massive NO for Eddie Howe like, He plays decent football but go’s all out away from home and gets smashed, this job is too big for him atm.

    Transfer Sage

    Yeah and then it will be Cabaye’s head was turned, refused to play, we can’t keep a player like that when no doubt MA has said not to play him to avoid injury like Bale.

  • 145 Wiz // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    If Pardew does go, the next manager is going to be coming in with his eyes wide open, isn’t he? Nobody in football could possibly be under any illusions about what Ashley is really like. This has to mean we get one of three types: a) a nutcase (Poyet) b) a has been (Hoddle) c) an up-and-coming but untried youngster (Beardsley).

  • 146 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Monkey

    I am no prem league manager and I don’t have a UEFA pro license (although can it be that hard be aide everyone gets them) but I can see why somebody isn’t doing well. I may not know how to get the best from all players or how counteract opposition.

    But what I do know is that if something isn’t working, and hasn’t worked for months, that some form of change is required. Whether I would make the right change is hard to say, but I would try something else to see if I could get results with it.

  • 147 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    NUFC finished 5th in 2011-12 Season, The season we did our transfer business early. Irony or Coincidence?

  • 148 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    http://t.co/4oIhND15AC

    Brilliant

  • 149 Brutooon // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    1) Shola Ameobi been shit for the last 13 seasons, the only time NUFC will win something is that when Shola Ameobi is gone!

    2) The quality of the team is FAR from top 6, currently not even top 10.

    3) Seriously i dont know where the goals will come from. 90mins and no SHOT ON GOAL?

    4) 4-4-2 looks good for us, get rid of the 4-2-31 system

    5) can we play simple passing football?????? LONG BALL is not working

  • 150 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    143

    lol @ nutcase

  • 151 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    We had problems creating clear-cut chances last season with Ben Arfa and Cabaye rarely both fit and on form and we had problems scoring with Cisse being our only real goal threat. So where’s our creativity going to come from if Cabaye leaves?

  • 152 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Reports that JFK was in France last night watching Ayew. that is not his job to scout. If you want him put in the damn did.

  • 153 Belfast // Aug 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Not really sure what to believe with the whole Cabaye situation. The French are well known for being sulks like, but then it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s the club who have pulled him from the squad incase he gets injured.

  • 154 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Another note Villa and Saints are looking really good this season playing very good football.

  • 155 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Colwell

    I kind of understand the bale situation. Spurs have already spent a chunk of the money they will get. Tried 30mil too for Willian until Chelsea scuppered it. And they have a 25mil Roma forward lined up. So for them they need the money off bale to balance the books. So sensible not to risk him.

    Whereas Everton keep playing baines and fellaini as they don’t want to sell and haven’t spent any money from their potential sale. Therefore they play as if they get injured its no worse than normal.

    We fall into the Everton category as no money has been spent so not desperate for the cabaye money. Yet we don’t play him so Ashley can have more money come in which he will drop feed into the squad for the next 2 years.

  • 156 Belfast // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    4-4-2 would work if we had two wingers who would stay wide, but we’ve got two who always come in field.

  • 157 dcdick // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Pardew out !!!

  • 158 bobby mango // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Pardew to Palace… That would be a dream. The nightmare would be Kinnear stepping in.

    Quick look on a palace forum and they all think its bollox. Funny thing is there’s a lot of positive reaction to the Pardew link! There’s also this classic:

    SelhurstParkFlyer Today 12.02am
    Could be worse. Headline could’ve read “Joe Kinnear in for Holloway”….

  • 159 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    I watched the Villa game yesterday and was sickened to see how far they have come over a pre season. Everyone moving forward while we are stuck in reverse

  • 160 jimiley // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    I am really happy that there is stability at the club. 7 more years of Pards etc. Iam not sure that Pards will last 7 years but I guarantee that if he does, we will be playing in a different league. And not necessarily the Championship. Stability is all well and good if the club is well run. The last thing you want is stability if its in meltdown. Keep the faith in Percy and the rest of the crew to get us relegated.

  • 161 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Aye. Its a shame the silver haired tw@t is incapbale of noticing that.

    Tiote has been p!ss poor at best for 90% of last season, yet he walked in ahead of Perch and Anita (who put in more MoTM performances individually in the few games they played, then Tiote has all last season). A blind man with basic football knowledge would be able to grasp the concept of playing your ‘inform’ players over your ‘out of form’ players.

    Jonas contributes nil as an attacker which by all means should be his primary duty on the pitch as a Left Winger. He always starts a game when fit.

    Ameobi… don’t get me started. Only reason he got more goals then Goofy and Cisse was because he played more games then them in pre-season, against sub-par standard teams. He has no pace, has ball control on the level of a giraffe on stilts and is either giving the ball away or elbowing someone to the ground and giving away a free kick.

    The mere knowledge of knowing that Ameobi is still a Newcastle player, let alone played 90 minutes in a game will continue to haunt me.

  • 162 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    TDS

    I’d like to try a 6 game run of sissoko and Anita in the middle with a front three of remy, cisse and Gouff with HBA just behind cisse as the link man, he will be more involved and able to create.

    Either that or have HBA wide instead of gouff and have Marv in the whole, plays some lovely through balls and said himself he prefers a central role.

  • 163 roe997 // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Did anyone notice the french sports direct advertising at tje game??i Said when we started in france with ben afra that ashley launched stores in paris at the same time.its all a con with nufc,nothing but a media advertising machine for cashley

  • 164 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    I am also tired of watching Cisse run around like a head less chicken. He is not fit to be a sole striker. Much rather have Goofy play there.

  • 165 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Wiz

    You can put all 3 down but honestly all of them would play better football that the players would actually enjoy playing

  • 166 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    If we still had the same Cisse from his first half a season at the club, we all know he would have volleyed that ball into the top corner from that World class Anita long ball…. Its a shame we have an imposter at the moment, I wanted to vomit, his first touch was so poor.

  • 167 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    I think NUFC are wasting their transfer kitty on making trips to France.

  • 168 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    i know armchair managers frustrate the daylights out of some supporters but i truly think its because most of us could do a better job than pardew given his resources!

  • 169 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    TS

    I like that. But we still need a strong striker and another creative options.

    We really need to beat Fulham.

  • 170 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Yeah the Bale deal is how a PERFECT deal should be completed. Us on the other hand seem incapable of learning from mistakes and yet again look set to lose one if not the best player with no replacement.

  • 171 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Jack

    Saw villa improve from the middle of last season, they were gradually improving and their young lads all have another year under their belt.

    I had a discussion with blackley and brownlie here last night about spending. He made a good point that we have a reasonable squad, on par with most out of top 6 and that’s better than what most clubs have in the country so we should be grateful. I respect that and do go for it a bit, it’s fair enough I suppose. A lot of teams with rich history are now floundering a couple league down, so we shouldn’t over react.

    Then again I always think that the last few years we have had a chance to move on a bit higher and with some sensible investment, a few extra players, even if a free transfer or loan deals then we could be similar to what spurs have become and what we were under sir bobby.

  • 172 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    if bent was playing instead of goofy we would have 3 pts now

  • 173 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    If you gave me the option to choose between

    A) A monkey with Rabies
    B) Pardew
    C) JFK

    I’d choose the monkey every day of the week.

  • 174 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    If Bent was playing, we would have had Three Ameobi’s on the field.

    Shola
    Sammy
    Darren ‘Ameobi’ Bent.

  • 175 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    TDS

    I think it could work, at least worth giving it a few games to see if it clicks, things sometimes take a few games to get right, not much happens instantly. I just want to see some variety. Not the tried and failed methods of the past.

    I would honestly like a striker (benteke mold) then a winger as priority.

    If we get that it frees HBA and Marv for central creative role.

    Then possibly a CB of good quality to displace willo and challenge for first team sport.

  • 176 bosamuelson // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    I have to say, I don’t care if Cabaye leaves. Lets be honest he left last year, Tiote too.

    Sell him and move on!

  • 177 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    172

    ?

  • 178 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Thought Sissoko looked far more comfortable playing along side Anita than the useless Tiote.The ball moved around quicker and a lot more movement.
    Sell Cabaye and bring in Hughes and Ince

  • 179 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Daz

    I’d take that. Both young and have a lot to prove but potential is there and surely no more of a gamble than the likes of Gouffran or marvoux were.

  • 180 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Very disappointed with our strikers so far. Cisse, Goofy and Shola should know we are ‘looking’ for a striker, so should be busting a ball to score some goals.

    Glad Anita played well again, good player, a better manager would have had him in our team months ago.

    Cabaye, its not all doom and gloom, anywhere above 15m is good for us as long as we use it to invest in a winger, striker and midfielder, chucking in another 10m to spend 25m on those players. We all know that won’t happen though.

    Krul, the link with Arsenal is a loose one at best, its the papers trying to add more doom and gloom to the toon. Would be very surprised if he went anywhere.

    If Chelsea are signing Etoo and Willian, then we should definitely have a look at Moses. Long shot but, loan offer for De Bruyne? Maybe even turn back to Mr Ba, we desperately need some firepower.

  • 181 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    cabaye and cisse both out should get 30m between them, with harper simpson also out the wages of these players should be fine too

    gomis 8m
    alderweireld 8m excuse kets time
    victor moses 6m?
    ba loan with view to buy next year
    i would also have milner back if he would take a wage cut

  • 182 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Daz, agreed mate, starting to think we ‘need’ to sign Ince!

  • 183 luke.r // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    daztoon

    couldnt agree with you more mate!

    Its time Pardew grew some balls and dropped some of these players that somehow walk into the team week in week out.

    I would take Diame for tiote though. Hughes for cabaye and then Ince just would be nice to have in the team for a bit of attacking threat

  • 184 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Yohan Kebab, agree on most of that. Don’t think Cisse is going anywhere and would definitely wouldnt take Milner back, he is just an English Jonas.

  • 185 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    i think we need a little more youth in our line up, some fearlessness and attacking invention, ince could be a masterstroke

    equally he could flop

  • 186 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Lilongwe- We didn’t sign Redmond because Kinnear claims that
    Sammy is a better prospect. Sammy made one good run soon after
    coming on and was knackered. Shola was a liability throughout
    and offers no movement. The crowd were 100% behind the team
    and the only dissent shown was towards JFK. We were well
    organised but lack creativity and threat in the final third.
    Merit marks:
    Krul 7
    Debuchy. 6. 7
    Yanga. 7
    Coloccini
    Santon 7
    HBA 6( I agree that he has to learn to pick a pass /caught in
    possession and faded in 2nd half to play deeper)
    Anita. 8. ( good pass/movement and link play)
    Sissoko. 6 ( sluggish for much of game against Diame)
    Marveaux. 6. ( had to keep checking he was playing- not
    influential)
    Shola. 4
    Cisse. 5 ( Poor service but sloppy throughout)

  • 187 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    kebab

    you think ash will pay 8 mill when the player is seeing out his contract and he can get him for nowt?

  • 188 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    interesting comment by MAOC

    ‘Has anyone considered the fact JFK deliberately not signing players to overthrow Patsy as manager? #NUFC’

  • 189 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Debuchy 6
    Coloccini. 7

  • 190 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Should move for Moses. Chelsea now have willian, mata, hazard, Oscar, de bruyne, all ahead of him.

    He was great last year, shocked at how good he looked, would be worth a punt.

  • 191 dantoon85 // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    What’s this about us going in for Troy Deeney from Watford, taking the p1ss now like

  • 192 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Tinman

    I too think the transfer of Krul is a complete non starter.

    Which club would sell one of their only two keepers ?

    I expect the club to bring a keeper as Alnwick is not ready to make that step up.

  • 193 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    TS

    I’m with you. Probably in that order of priorities too. Gomis would be a good alternative up front and I’m open with how we replace Cabaye. I definitely know we will need more creativity and if we have that big strong striker then someone who can get out wide and deliver a good cross would be very helpful.

    I don’t think Willo lets us down when he plays but I’d like to have a young player in that position who is on the verge of a starting spot. Willo is never going to push Colo or MYM.

  • 194 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    List of Chelsea MFs

    Lampard, Essien, Ramires,Van Ginkel, De Bruyne, Mata, Mikel, Oscar, Hazard, Schurrle, Moses AND now Willian

  • 195 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Kebab

    Doubt it. Possibility but not one I’d go along with. If kinnear fails at his job can’t see why that would make Ashley make him the manager.

  • 196 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    TS- we should also move for Ba.

  • 197 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Transfer Sage

    The thing that I can’t get passed is that no matter how much or how little we spend on transfer’s, ultimately what we do on the pitch comes down to good coaching. planning, preparation and the mentality that the manager and his coaches instil in the players.

    The squad that Villa have put out over the past three game’s didn’t cost hundreds of millions, but they look like a team, 11 players fighting for the same thing and each other, whereas we look like 11 strangers thrown together at the last minute who are sent out with no preparation and no clear message of what to do.

    I’ve said for a while that it’s going to take more than money or signings to turn this mess around

  • 198 dantoon85 // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Think it’s time to give some of the younger lads a run out let the seniors know that they not guaranteed a starting place

  • 199 Thump // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    @dantoon85: Deeney? You’re taking the piss, aren’t you? ffs I could do a better job than him!

  • 200 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    TDS

    Yeh, willo is basic and won’t ever kick onto regular starter.

    If I could pick my signings, I know it would cost a lot but if cabaye goes that’s an extra 20mil in the kitty.

    I’d take Moses (if possible, loan or permanent), ince, sakho. With two wingers remy could be used central so have him and cisse for that one spot. Then can delay gomis til Jan to save money.

  • 201 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Yohan Kebab

    Joe Kinear would never take the job.

    No matter what he says about being over his heart problems he knows, as does Ashley and the club, that he isn’t healthy enough for such a stressful job.

  • 202 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Slank,

    I think some people get a bit hysterical in the darker times and we seem to be in one at the moment.

    Agree with most that Cabaye is replaceable, a wizard on his day, but is very inconsistent and prone to lots of niggly little injuries which can disrupt a teams flow.

  • 203 dantoon85 // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    @thump it’s one of the rumours floating around in the papers today mate. Makes my blood boil

  • 204 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Ian,
    If Sammi ends up having a better career than Redmond I will walk back to Newcastle from Lilongwe bollock naked. No chance. Redmond is 3 years younger and already looks more than twice the player. People say English players are overpriced, only the ones who you buy through the back pages are. This lad was 2-2.5 million. Would have improved our team instantly.

  • 205 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    I would like to see Vuckic given a good chance at Morecambe and told if he plays well he gets a start in our next prem game.

  • 206 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Jack

    True. I am happy enough to give pardew time I he shows enough improvement. Showing a bit but not much now.

    But at the same time why should we train and improve him when we can just get somebody better now. I think it’s a little late to get a good manager in so guess we need to wait for now.

  • 207 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I too would go with Moses (if possible, loan or permanent), Ince and Sakho. I would also enquire with Man City about Micah Richards. He would be perfect as our right back. We also need a keeper.

  • 208 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Transfer Sage

    And thats why I think that Pardew, Stone and Carver need to go, they’ve had 100 games now and have reached their limit. Time for a change

  • 209 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    TS

    I think we still need a strong striker and I’m not sure that Moses is that striker for me. Also, I would have to question why Chelsea would actually sell him.

  • 210 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    I dont see why people are so desperate to get rid of Willo, I dont presume he will be on big wages and think he can do a job when he comes in.He is more consistent than Taylor, but not as good when both are playing well.

    Seen him getting ripped in town by some little chavs about wearing purple chinos, he handled it extremely well, I bet he has a brilliant attitude towards training and is a positive asset in our dressing room. He has never complained or moaned, never looked to pastures new when he isn’t getting a game.

    I think he is good to have as our current 4th choice CB and see no reason for him to be sold.

  • 211 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    tinman, when i mentioned milner i was thinking of a jonas replacement!

  • 212 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    TDS,
    Moses isn’t a striker to start with….

  • 213 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Jack

    Lets see how we fair away to morecombe on wednesday. If we lose that then there will be some serious problems.

    I see us winning comfortably though so shouldn’t be an issue.

  • 214 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    I here Stoke are enquiring about John Guidetti from City, I havent seen the lad play, but I imagine he would add to our team, think he has a lot to prove. Surely better than Shola.

  • 215 jimiley // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Where have all the Ashley cheerleaders gone? For a few years the blogg was evenly split but now there is silence. Come on Mike’s parents, speak out. Financial acumen and a well run club etc etc. Come on you dickheads, lets hear from you.

  • 216 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    TDS,
    Sorry, pressed the wrong button. But as he doesn’t play as a striker, then he competes with (takes a deep breath) Willian, Oscar, Mata, Hazard, Lampard, Schurrle, De Bruyne, Van Ginkel. moses wants to play so he will be in Nigeria world cup squad. They also have Piazon coming through.

  • 217 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Kebab,

    Well thats fair enough then ;)

  • 218 welshgeordie9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    How many players do you think we will get before the transfer window is closed.

  • 219 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    TDS

    How much game time would he get there? Schurle, Oscar, mata, hazard, de bruyne, willian.

    They might want to get some cash back and get him off the wage bill, he might want football.

    And I’d say he is a wide forward, not use him as a striker.

  • 220 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Lilongwe

    He’s played as a striker, winger and attacking midfielder before. Similar to the way we’ve been using Goofy

    My point was that we really need an out and out striker to play with Cisse or as an alternative

  • 221 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    welshgeordie9

    None

  • 222 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Tinman @ 208

    Absolutely.

    I feel that Willo knows his own limitations and will not rock the boat and accepts that he is fourth in the pecking order.

  • 223 AaranD // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Guidetti is a real talent. Skillful player, wouldn’t really fit into our side at the moment though I would still take him.

  • 224 catchy in norway // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    best bit of transfer news all summer

    pardew to palace,, he is a legend down there

  • 225 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    TDS,
    he has very rarely played as a striker. And even less so since leaving Palace. He hasn’t played once as a striker for Chelsea.

  • 226 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Would say Moses is a very similar player to Goofy, will offer competition for Ben Arfa, Gouffran, Jonas and Marveaux, our current wide forwards :-/

  • 227 thegeordieraver // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Morning guys, advice if anyone has it pls, I’m trying to find out how to get back from Morecambe to huddersfield, west yorkshire after our game on weds. There ain’t no trains running after 9pm.Anyone else got this problem?

  • 228 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Would keep Anita and Sissoko together at Morecambe need to gel but looked promising yesterday.Give Marv a game in the hole behind Gouffran and Cisse.
    The side badly needs a win and a bit of confidence going into Fulham game

  • 229 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    TDS,
    I agree we would still need a striker, but I’d much prefer to have Moses out wide than Marveaux/Jonas/Sammi.
    /Obertan and unless Ben Arfa learns to get his head up, then probably him as well.

  • 230 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    welshgeordie9 @ 216

    Striker – Gomis as we aren’t scoring goals.
    Keeper – ANO as two is not enough in the Premiership
    Winger – Ince as he has the ability and age.
    Midfield – ANO
    Defender – ANO

  • 231 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    @Transfer Sage

    Remy,Cisse and Moses would be a decent forward three

  • 232 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Lilongwe- LOL. Lee Clark was happy for him to have signed for us and Pardew wanted him. He would not have cost a lot and offers the sort of end product with his trickery in wide areas and around
    the box that is sadly lacking. Kinnear I believe has blocked a
    few players coming in. Pardew was seen chatting to Tomkins
    after the game. There is not a lot wrong that a couple of ST
    and an attacking midfielder wouldn’t put right.
    Thinking positively we now have drawn our opening home games
    in the last three seasons. It was a better performance than in the
    corresponding game last season. Small mercies.

  • 233 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Daz,
    I agree. Pick a strong side, one very similar to the team that plays in the Prem to get some confidence in them. If it goes the other way though, that could be debilitating. Vuckic is the only one that I would look to start. Possibly Bigi in with Anita and Sissoko to work as a midfield trio.

  • 234 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Daztoon, I do agree, but would still like Vuckic to be given a large chunk of the game

  • 235 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Don’t think anyone’s posted this link up for an article from the mag:

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/confused-you-will-be/

    Has some startling claims of figures in this article, an interesting read atleast.

  • 236 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Ian Toon,

    Good level headed post mate. Fear it will be ignored by some people who are on red alert panic stations!

  • 237 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    TS/Lil

    Not much game time. But do you think he will go to a PL team not in Europe rather than abroad to a Panathinaikos or similar?

  • 238 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Ian,
    We beat Spurs last season in our opening home game mate.

    Lee Clark also recently picked Steven Carr as a centre back in his best 11 that he has ever played with…. I would have been happy with Tomkins, but not at the ridiculous prices being quoted.

    Yes, there isn’t much a few attacking/creative minded players wouldn’t solve, but the time to get these in is rapidly running out.

    Personally I’d prefer Matri to Gomis, the lad is available at £6million, so we can afford it going on the bid for Gomis, but I’d still want another younger striker in to give us a full compliment and allow Shola to leave for QPR/Boro/Wednesday.

  • 239 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    The lad who said he had spoke with Pardew after the game yesterday about seeing him next week and Pardew saying No he wouldn’t is genuine. I know the father and son and he is not making this up.

    I don’t understand it though as the start of the summer would have been best time to leave and not 2 games into the season!

  • 240 musomag // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Jack Butler @ 125…….good link

    Just another reminder of the changes needed for those of us not yet up to speed or those just in denial like Ed.
    Pardew and Kinnear out. Ashley out.

    Those ARE the changes that need to be made at the club.

    Stop burying your heads in the sand and glossing over a less than mediocre team with blinkered optimism. That is complete and utter stupidity. Months of pathetic ‘top transfer target’ speculation that have ended in a loan deal for an injured forward who snubbed us less than a year ago and depression for a lot of disappointed supporters who are feeling very let down now.

    Stop dreaming up formations and let’s protest at SJP and boycott Ashley’s regime. Nobody likes his product so why buy it?

    If I get barred from the site it is only for stating fact. Bye for now

  • 241 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    When I was a lad growing up in Howden, Wallsend, I remember my mom opening a jigsaw puzzle….the picture was a beautiful country scene. She sat patiently as I picked up pieces and tried to find the matching picture on the lid. Eventually she started showing the way, find the corner pieces, finish the side and build from there. It took me (us) a while but eventually we finished the picture.
    If I have to explain this parable, I’m wasting all our time.

  • 242 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie

    Yeah i`d prob give Dummet a game as well but we need to get a bit consistency going and keep Anita and Sissoko in midfield as it looked really promising yesterday and sissoko looked liked he enjoyed playing alongside Anita,with more movement

  • 243 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    TDS,
    It depends how much we are willing to pay rather than Europe. So, yes he will most likely go elsewhere… ;-) To be honest with you, I’ve not heard much transfer news about him at all, other than Chelsea fans on Twitter saying he will be surplus to requirements.

    Rumours that Ba is off to Germany as well for as little as 5million. Would happily bring him back, but wouldn’t we then have the same Cisse/Ba issues as last year?

  • 244 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Honestley believe a couple of offensive signings would change us greatly, competition for places is something we are seriously lacking.

    Bet some of the current players would up their game a bit if we brought in a few hungry young players.

  • 245 Tinman // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Mactoon,

    Can’t help but believe thats bullshit. We will see.

  • 246 Offkey // Aug 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Many seem to think a couple of players will sort our play out. I find that hard to believe. The year we finished 5th it was by grinding out results (mainly), I could take that, others were not happy and said there was trouble on the horizon when our ‘luck’ ran out……………..how right they were.

    The regime and manager have created this situation and both must change to stop the rot.

  • 247 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Think what you want Tinman, I know the guy and he 100% wouldn’t make such a thing up, I do find it strange though and the lad in question is only 6 or 7.

  • 248 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Daz,
    Yeah, possibly Dummet, but I think it is best to work with a settled back 4, and if we can get 5/6games in a row from those who played against West ham we will start to see more understanding and an improvement. I hope we persevere with Anita and Sissoko, add Bigi to the picture as Cabaye looks gone for a good midfield trio. Then it is just the problem of solving how to get an attacking trio that works.

  • 249 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Offkey,
    Course it wouldn’t solve everything, I doubt anyone thinks it would. It would definitely help though.

  • 250 joeinthecheapseats // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Think some on here are missing the positives from yesterday
    Clean sheet
    Mbwia at centre half
    Santon looked good
    Sissoko and Anita
    Sammy did well when he came on
    Negatives
    Shola not good enough
    Marveaux didn’t really take his opportunity
    Cisse no real service
    If we get another 3 in things will get a whole lot better
    JFK if he doesn’t deliver should then stay well clear of SJP

  • 251 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie

    Yeah i agree but i would like the two left footers Dummet and Haidara to compete for the LB and Debuchy and Santon for the RB.

  • 252 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Morecambe vs Newcastle On Tensports Repeat at 4am INDIA

  • 253 musomag // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Parables now eh? Ok then….

    When I was a child growing up in Belfast there once was a greedy man with too much control and rule over his humbled, down trodden followers. One day they decided enough was enough and….actually prob best to leave that story there.

  • 254 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Anything other than a convincing win over Morecambe will just heap more pressure on Pardew

  • 255 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    hmmm looks its live.. 11 pm on thursday

  • 256 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Pardew already saying it will be a tough game …

    HAHAHAHHAHH omfg…. this is going to be the worst season yet….

    We should have 3 points on the board already…. we have 1

  • 257 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    If Morecambe will be a tough game best for us not to pitch up for games VS Chelksi, UTD, City, Liverpool, Spuds, etc

  • 258 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/story-19706909-detail/story.html?

  • 259 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Arsene Wenger is ready to swoop for £10m-
    rated Newcastle goalkeeper Tim Krul

    he can lick my ass 1st

  • 260 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Lilongwe

    Moses might be on big money at Chelski too. I only want him if he’s seriously driven to be successful at NUFC. I think people seem to forget the personal element sometimes, it’s not just about offering a high enough transfer fee and wages, there has to be a personality fit too.

    I can’t see Ba coming back either, I don’t see why he would to be honest.

  • 261 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    To be fair Morecambe is a bit of a banana skin game and they will be up for it for sure.
    If we just turn up expecting to win we could be turned over as we usually are

  • 262 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Pardew quote…
    “We need to resolve the (Yohan Cabaye) situation. We need to get ourselves in a position where if he stays – great. If he doesn’t stay, we need someone equally as good. That’s where it’s at. I don’t want to say anything more than that.”
    Sounds to me like a man who has just about had enough….

  • 263 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Newcastle are considering a late move for
    Watford striker Troy Deeney.

    Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino wants
    Valencia winger Pablo Piatti.

  • 264 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    JB,
    When I saw Derby Telegraph I got my hopes up thinking we had bid for Will Hughes and/or Mason Bennett. Foolish of me.

  • 265 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    @JackButler

    Would be a good move for him as thats his level

  • 266 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Mike Ashley reminds me of someone who doesn’t like to loose face; I think he might even stick by Pardew even if it meant we would go down (and I cannot see Pardew ever walking on his own)

    …best thing that could happen was someone with money and an affinity for Newcastle bought the club along with the Supporter’s Trust!

  • 267 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Would have to hope that Shola takes his younger brother with him if he goes as neither are Premier League quality

  • 268 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Lil…..still can’t believe none of the big tams have picked up Hughes yet.

  • 269 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Clinath,
    Rumours last week said Liverpool were looking at a £6million deal that would see him stay at Derby for this season. If we could strike a deal for both for £10mill and they can keep them this year I’d be more than happy. Not a chance though I’ guess….

  • 270 Slank // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Jesper @ 266

    ‘…thing that could happen was someone with money and an affinity for Newcastle bought the club along with the Supporter’s Trust!..’

    Dream on. Pigs will fly first.

  • 271 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Lil….the state we are in at the moment we’ve got no chance.

  • 272 daztoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Let Cabaye go Hughes and Ince would offer us so much more than the overrated petulant Cabaye.Both hungry young lads with bags of potential.

  • 273 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Clinath,
    Agreed. It would require forethought and planning…. and a bit of ambition. Not to mention £10million…..

  • 274 Spotlight Kid // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    clinath@241

    Problem is the St James’ jigsaw has the wrong picture on the box, several pieces missing and only one of the corner pieces has been found despite searching diligently for over 2 years.

    Yesterday someone had either mischievously pasted rugby goal posts on the front picture on the jigsaw box (which remained invisible to the crowd and TV cameras) or perhaps there was a curious optical mirage at pitch level of the goal posts floating in the air 5 yards off the deck created by the new goal line technology?

    Either way – not one shot on target out of 14 (a new Prem record btw), so how else do you explain that via that jigsaws puzzle?

    Maybe ask HBA, he was convinced the goal was hovering somewhere between row M & Z. Goofy thought it was perhaps even higher, maybe outside the ground itself. Do players see visions – or hear voices? Is the pitch haunted or demonically possessed as Gullit supposed? And why do all managers sprout white hair within weeks (unless they already have that attribute anyway)?

  • 275 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Ha Lil….of all of those I believe the £10 mill would be the easiest to arrange. Sad.

  • 276 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    st james is built on an ancient mackem burial site

  • 277 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Slank…I need to keep the dream alive mate or else I’ll go slightly mad ;) lol

  • 278 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Spotlight…as I was writing it, couldn’t help but think on the cornflake box and a chicken……JFK kept leaping into my head.

  • 279 kilcline // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Team to stay up

    ————————krul
    Santon——–colo——–mbiwa——-Dummet
    Ben Arfa—– anita ——-sissoko ——-Ince
    —————–Gomis———-remy

    Sell Cabaye and buy Ince and Gomis.

    Swap Gomis for Cisse if he doesn’t come. Ince is a must buy, if not play Santon winger and stick debuchy back in.

  • 280 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    I would have loved for Pardew to have been shown the door and someone like Eddie Howe to be appointed.

    …but they should have done that after last season then. Might as well just let Pardew f it all up along with JFK!

    …I wouldn’t wish upon any decent manager to work under these conditions!

  • 281 cyprus // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Here’s a funny headline by Ed from a week ago:
    “Newcastle Challenge Liverpool For Willian”

    Also interesting that the new banner features no NUFC employees…

  • 282 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Sorry spotlight, just re read you post…hard to argue when the players don’t appear to be performing. I am starting to believe they simply can not…with everything going on at the club, lack of ambition, investment, etc…the mood within the club must be awful….how do we expect anyone to perform under these conditions?

  • 283 Spotlight Kid // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    clinath@278

    What a terrible vision – Kinnear’s Corn Flakes!

  • 284 julidog // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    In my humble opinion, I’m at a loss at how sissoko is the 4th highest in this poll. I was there watching him skew pass after pass away to west ham, debuchy should be up there where sissoko is on this poll. He must have had a pasting after monday and watched his game back a lot because he was a completely different player yesterday. Disciplined like he is when I’ve seen him play for france. As for Anita, top lad patient for his chance and he deserves his place next game. Whether that happens or not….well…..my breath isn’t being held ;)

  • 285 Spotlight Kid // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    clinath@281

    These players have previously worked with sub-standard continental coaches including Mourinho and Blanc. It must be tricky to make the technical step up to Pardew’s system.

  • 286 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Cyprus,
    Going back to the other day when you commented about my post to bring in younger players, and then I mentioned young British talent. The only expensive British youngsters are the ones signed through the back pages. There are plenty of talented young players who could do a job for us that people don’t hear about regularly that aren’t expensive. Just a case of looking.

    Redmond is already looking a very good signing by Norwich, at a whopping £2million…. Certainly better than any wingers we have.

  • 287 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Spotlight @284…. Can’t beat that one mate…pmsl!

  • 288 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Lil…saw that Redmond last night on MOTD…what a nicely balanced footballer, ow did he slip through ffs?

  • 289 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Clinath,
    Clarkie even talked him up as a good signing for Newcastle. IanToon claims that it is because Kinnear didn’t fancy him or think he was better than Sammi. If that is the case then I despair for the future under his transfer regime.

  • 290 stu mel // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Wiz I do totally agree. I think pardew has some skill as a manger, but he never learn from his mistakes. He doesn’t play the best team. He doesn’t no what style of football to play. One of the main problems he threw a team of player together probs in his own mind with the best ability and forget the formation and what is need in what part of the pitch. Yesterday was a mile better, got a feeling thing can go ever way ATM get a couple of goals will change this team. Cisse is like Taylor total lability hot headed, strola just a oaf. All the other striker arnt striker and are attacking player which job is to create goals that dosnt just mean scoring them

  • 291 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    It isn’t a pleasant surprise actually. Anita is probably the best midfielder at the club.

    Ince is a Liverpool reject. He isn’t good enough for the premier league. If he wasn’t Paul Ince’s son, we wouldn’t be talking about him. I’d rather have Darren Ambrose at the club.

  • 292 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Gobsmacked Lil.
    I thought it was bad when I got the impression that Carr was buying one type of player, and Pardew fancied another….now we add that idiot into the mix!!!!

  • 293 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Sack Pardew. I’ve had enough of that useless swine. We’re still 5 players short of having a decent team. I don’t care if Cabaye goes because I don’t rate him. I’m just glad we’ve kept hold of Santon, Anita, Ben Arfa and Marveaux.

  • 294 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Yeah, I agree with you on that one. Thought Redmond looked promising. Norwich have signed some decent players. Even Elmander is a step up from Grant Holt.

  • 295 cyprus // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie,
    I guess you are right, regarding English players and price. My argument is, does it matter? Do players from such nations have ‘more heart’ than others? Believe me, I’m half Greek half Geordie and I’ve had my share of both beliefs. Greeks winning the Euros, Baghdatis here in Cyprus, ALL England national teams. I get it, when they win, it was their heart, but what is the deal when they lose? I don’t know if you catch my drift…

  • 296 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Kets,
    Ha, I’d rather have Ince than Ambrose, but I understand your point. If it weren’t for his dad he would be no more than £2/3million.

    What did you make of Marveaux yesterday? For me that is another performance that tells me he is best coming off the bench. I can think of maybe 1 game last season where he looked decent as a starter. Last 20minutes of a game to pick apart tired defences is his best role in my opinion.

  • 297 clinath@ed // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Thanks for the chitchat lads…I’m off, got lawns to cut, and doors to paint. It’s been a pleasure, so until later…..

  • 298 cyprus // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Ketsbaia9,
    I must say I admire your uncompromising posts. Some make a lot of sense, some I disagree with (e.g. ManU a ‘Top Ten’ team). You sure remind me of your namesake. Bet you are him ;)

  • 299 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Cyprus,
    I didn’t mention a single name because they have “more heart”. That can come from any nation, it is all about personality rather than nationality.

    I named the players I did as they would all be keen to join a club like NUFC, would put in the effort – particularly with the way we structure our bonuses and contracts. They are all talented, and have the potential under the right regime to grow as a unit together and improve. Just look at the improvement from Villa at the start of last season to now.

    Write this year off and mould a group of talented youngsters with a top striker to guarantee goals to ensure safety. Build a team that will improve and stand us in good stead for the next 5 years.

  • 300 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Marveaux needs a good 10 game stint in the first team. You can’t judge him in one game, but Marveaux and Anita should be playing every week. We pay to watch decent football.

    Man Utd will get beat easily tomorrow night. Chelsea have a far superior squad. With that squad of players, they’d have done really well if they finish in the top 10.

  • 301 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Valencia, Evra, Nani. Kagawa, Hernandez and Van Persie are the only good players in that squad.

  • 302 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Cyprus,
    They don’t even have to be English, I just know more on talented British youngsters than I do on other nations across Europe and the World.

  • 303 ochytoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Lads, don’t be disappointed if we lose at Morecambe. We clearly can’t compete with the financial power that they have.

  • 304 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Lilongwe- your right I was thinking of the Spurs home game where we drew 2-2. On Redmond it appears that the Kinnear point was based on both being in the England under 21 squad and that making the signing would block Sammi’s development. You couldn’t make it up. However, it does question whether Kinnear can spot a talented young affordable signing- in Redmond. As I said earlier one good thing with our DOF is that it would appear from yesterday at SJP that fans are highly critical of Ashley and JFK and far more appreciative of what Pardew has to contend with. Talk of relegation is plain stupid
    as we played with spirit and organisation( not seen in home games towards the latter part of last season) it’s time for incomings and we can reasonably look to a top 8 finish. Finally I am not convinced that Coloccini and Yanga are the best pairing. They are both of the ball playing cultured CB variety and we need a mean and ugly to clear out cleanly balls into the box.

  • 305 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Nani or Valencia would be good signings for us.

  • 306 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Ian,
    I’d be happy for us to bring in an uglier styled centre half, but unless we buy one, then the best pairing at the club is MYM and Colo.

    I’m not convinced on what we have to be appreciative of when it comes to Pardew mind. I think only 1 shot on target, from Tiote of all people, in 180 minutes of football is very damning. I can’t see it improving under him, he can’t seem to iron out the problems that have been recurring for the majority of his tenure.

    As for Ashley and Kinnear, the fans have every right and reason to have a go at them. They have both failed in their roles this summer. But just because they have failed does not mean that we should absolve Pardew of criticism for poor tactics and inept displays.

  • 307 yo-yo // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Kets

    The advantage Manure have – despite their lack of total quality in every position – is that they play as a team where the total is greater than the sum of the parts. That is why they are still worth 3rd place… and anyway Van Persie is a game winner on his own .. just as Bale was last season..

  • 308 cyprus // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Lil,
    All those things plus a leader on the pitch. Somebody who hates losing and ‘makes’ the rest fight for every ball. Taylor has that but in a totally misdirected way (in fact, I give up on him, he’s a liability). We give teams so much space, so much (is it) respect. Is it fatigue, or tactics, can you tell?

    Regarding Villa, watched all their games, good outfit but they may deflate if their one focal player gets injured or loses form… Not sure they’re quite out of the woods yet. In ten games against Arsenal, they would’ve lost seven in my mind. Still, the Chelsea result was unfair.

  • 309 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Lilongwe- On Marveaux as I said I had to keep checking that he was on the pitch. He flatters to deceive and was not busy enough against a hard working Noble and Diame. He certainly is not a winger so really has to be judged against CM’s. I would agree that he does not merit a starting place.

  • 310 Jamesthefirst // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Derby have just slapped a £15 million price tag on Will Hughes.

    Liverpool offered £6 million on Friday.

  • 311 Fostino // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    i am seriously worried about this season..one thing is for sure is that its going to be very flat …either relegation strugglers fighting for mid table

    there are a number of problems:

    jfk as director of football has made us into a laughing stock..his only signing being a crocked loan signing that turned us down in Jan. The crazy gang is not what we need

    pardew as manager is having a nightmare lately. he is being undermined by players and owners and now joe. his tactical awareness is poor changing formations several times during a game. team selection is boring/predictable keeping with old horses who arent delivering at the moment i.e. tiote, jonas, shoal

    an owner is isnt really a football man, i respect that he put the club on sound financially but he shows little ambition to reach the next level..a lot of penny pinching in an industry where money knows no boundaries

    the influx of average french players into the team who dont really care. sure there cheaper but its becoming too much. bye bye simpon, gosling, perch, nolan, carroll etc..hello obertan, romain, remy, etc etc

    the club is going backwards at the moment. ..too many wonga decisions

  • 312 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Look Marveux is not really a winger and would be better playing the centre of midfield

    But its so hard to just judge a player on 1 game I agree with Kets that him and Anita need a proper run in the team , they need to feel wanted and trusted by the manager because deep down they know they probably will get dropped for Jonas and Tiote when they are available

    Now if I was Marveux and Anita what would be the point in busting a gut? If they get dropped again its a travesty of the highest order Jonas and Tiote have had their chances and they have let us down so many times its time for a change same with Shola

    Should properly give our youth a chance Vuckic would have been perfect to play yesterday as he would have got opportunities to hit shots outside the box and he probably has the best shot of our midfield

    We needed an extra body in midfield because Noble and Nolan have no real pace Bigi, Vuckic and even Gosling would have offered more than Shola and would have allowed us to control the midfield Pardew never seems to do this and just decides to bypass a midfield but James Collins destroyed Shola for the whole game

    Another thing is Arfa was so annoying yesterday I counted about 10 chances for him to whip it in and he fannied about and either lost it or it got took off him he should play on the left wing so when he beats the fullback he has to whip it in its a waste of seconds watching him cut back inside on his right cause his finishing is woeful

  • 313 Fostino // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    on wed i would play the following

    krul

    debuchy yanga colo dummett

    ben afra anita gosling marv santon

    goofy

  • 314 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Marveaux is a game changer. Pardew treats him like dump. United were lucky to win against Swansea. I think they’ll struggle throughout the season. They don’t need Baines when they have Evra.

  • 315 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Kets

    Man utd were not lucky at all. Thrashed Swansea comfortably. They have very good players. De gea, vidic, evra, carrick, kagawa, Hernandez, van persie, Rooney, Valencia. The rest are good prem league standard as well.

    Agree Chelsea are better and my money would be on them or city for the title but man utd are a comfortable third I think.

  • 316 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Cyprus,
    Yes, I agree we need someone in the Roy Keane/Viera mould who if the team aren’t playing well will snarl at his teammates whilst also putting in a performance that drags his team upwards.

    Roy Keane against Juventus is one of the best displays I think I have ever seen from a captain and embodied everything that was great about him as a footballer.

    Not sure which player I would get that has those qualities whilst also being a good/very good player.

  • 317 Newcastle for alltid // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Just so many points of frustration in the game yestarday, and in general.

    First, so Pardew wanted to change things around from the team that lost at Man City. Fair enough. Reverting to a pure 4-4-2 using Ameobi instead of Gouffran is a crime though. Only Pardew can see the logic behind playing Shola in the Premiership. He is an utter waste of space. He was decent for periods some years ago, but he`s lost everything. Gouffran would offer a far more dynamic partnership with Cissè than Shola. It looked extremely static with those two up front.

    Second, Ben Arfa should never be used as a wide man in a 4-4-2. He should be used exclusively for attacking, either as a winger or in the hole. He is running with the ball in no-mans-land too often, which is a shame considering is abilities. Ben Arfa deserves some critisism himself for the game yesterday as he shot far too often from a distance. We need to be brave enough to play a 4-3-3 where the three front men don`t have huge defensive tasks, especially at home. That`s how you get deadly counter-attacks.

    Third, substitutions. It should be Shola swapped for Gouffran. Simple as that. I would also like to see Vuckic brought on for Marveaux, even though Sammy was lively. I geuinely believe that Vuckic has that special something in the attacking play that we miss – some creativity and a deadly shot. I would love to see him behind the striker on wednesday.

    Fourth, I was gonna write a wall of text picking our tactics apart when I realized we don`t have a tactic. Still hoofing.

  • 318 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and Norwich are miles ahead of Man Utd. We have a better squad. Vidic, D’Gea and Carrick are all below average.

  • 319 nut meg // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Marveaux would be better in the position that HBA was selected to play yesterday.He can see & play a pass,neat & tidy short passes, better at linking the play up than HBA also has a shot on him.A run of games will show if he’s good enough to fill that role,nothing to lose by it.Push the defense further up the pitch & squeeze the opposition more.Do to them what they do to us,give them something to think about instead of steamrolling all over us!

  • 320 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Kets

    If you think Norwich are ahead of man utd then you watch a. Totally different game I’m afraid.

  • 321 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    @Kets – do you think De Gea’s shot stopping is “below average”?

    Do you also believe you know better than fellow professionals about Carrick?

  • 322 mattnufc // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Ed, please ban Kets to save everyone else’s sanity.

  • 323 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Kets you really are a grade A Penis.

  • 324 mattnufc // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Who is worse: Newcastle or Sunderland?

  • 325 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    http://t.co/ReQMGOOu0G

    Pards saying how fit Ben Arfa is, Really?

  • 326 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    ata man of the match a suprise ? . There was a lot of people on here including me that have wanted him to start since he signed. Unlike Pardew the puppet .

  • 327 boater // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    It’s not fair, Marveaux never gets a start. Oh he had a start – and he was non-existent, like he’s been when he’s started in the past. Wait, he needs 10 starts before we can really judge. What must be going through Marveaux’s head? He gets a game in Jonas’ absence, does absolutely nothing – and isn’t automatically kept in the team for another game…tsk

    Also Gouffran should be upfront with Cisse because he’s a really reliable finisher that always makes runs beyond Cisse and holds up the ball allowing for midfielders (which he’s not at all ) to support.

    Seems so obvious in my head, plus lots of really intelligent and open minded people on here seem to agree. What’s Pardew thinking?

  • 328 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Just reading the sky sports reports of cabaye refusing to play. I still think Ashley may be stopping him to risk injury but if cabaye is refusing to play no amount of money would make me sell him.

    If he doesn’t want to play that’s fine, I’d keep him and let him rot until at at leastjanuary. Tell him he either plays for us or can kiss the World Cup goodbye.

    Us selling him, although gets us money, is doing him a big favour.

  • 329 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    @Matt Nufc

    Well considering Sunderland pretty much dealt with us on our home turf and they have bought a fair few extra players and will look to play better football

    We still have Pardew as well and they will most likely have Fletcher back soon so if it stays the same and we dont invest we could be embarrassed the next time we play them

  • 330 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Boater

    Marvoux has said himself he pays best as a central player. Giving him the odd start out of position isn’t a fair judge of the lad.

  • 331 rossc // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Krul

    Taylor Coloccini Mbiwa

    Debuchy Santon

    Tiote Sissoko Anita

    Ben Arfa Cisse

  • 332 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    @Boater

    To be fair Marveux had a poor game and still created more than Jonas at his best does his corners and free kicks were dangerous yesterday

    If you give him the ball in the right areas he will create stuff you can give Jonas the ball all game and he will create the square root of HEE HAW

  • 333 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    @ Boater

    Marveaux had our most assists last season and most of his appearances were from the bench with the odd start here and there . That is why he should start over Guti .

  • 334 Ian Toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Lilongwe- I understand your point but I don’t agree with you. Anita
    formed an effective central partnership with Sissoko and this combination can flourish because they provide excellent movement which has been lacking. Sissoko was not at his best so better to follow.
    Anita with his pass and move style is an excellent ball operative and transmitter to a marauding Sissoko, Debuchy and Santon. With hopefully a further injection of pace and movement before the window closes.

    Our build up play is generally too slow, lacking movement off the ball
    and overall far too laborious which impacts on Cisse massively. Forward players are picked up and closed down. We don’t get enough players into the box – contrast West Ham. They beavered away and made chances from getting the ball and players into danger areas. By contrast we were lightweight where it mattered. Shola was a liability
    simply because he represents the complete opposite of what we need and played into the stalling, stifling Allardyce style of play. Gouffran
    Whilst not securing the 3 points at the death at least showed movement and fluidity. West Ham with Jarvis and Downing ( neither of whom I rate) at least created space for others to work in. We created little in the wide areas until late on and overall were less of a threat in the final third. We certainly dodged a bullet though in not signing Maiga.

    Pardew has a game plan but does not have the necessary offensive players to execute it. JFK it’s over to you.

  • 335 hadthetshirt // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    I can’t believe people slagging Marveaux.The guy was the player with most assists last season,and considering the times he started a game it’s amazing.He should be in the team with Anita,Sissoko,and HBA.
    Gouffran should be along side Cisse,and that stupid glakey 23 dropped off the tyne bridge.All he does is fouls then has that stupid glakey cheesy grin on his clock.How can pardwho pick jonas and him before others.pardwho does not have a clue how to pick his best players nor how to change things around.His substitutions yesterday were criminal.23s brother before Gouffran,and taking our top scorer off and leaving 23 on maddening.Bah.

  • 336 yo-yo // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Transfer

    Two scenarios

    Cabs head has been turned and he is refusing to play to get a move so his World Cup prospects and career are advanced. No formal written transfer request just the fit of pique approach.

    Mashley is keeping his asset saleable by not playing him so(unlike Remy) he is injury free. He has instructed Pardew not to play him.

    Pardew was visibly angry on Monday evening and was probably acting under instructions as he has said how good Cabs was looking on training and clearly back to form (just our luck if he’s off)

    Cabs may have been pulled on Monday by Mash but agent manipulation etc., have made him say he doesn’t want to play since then if he’s going to be sold.

    If he is just being petulant (and he has shown it on the pitch) then he def should be fined and sent to train with the reserves for a couple of weeks. NO player is bigger than the club – not even Shearer. It is all very Toon cockup and very unprofessional – but we don’t know the truth.

    Either way Pardew loses one of his best players and I bet he won’t be replaced which cuts the ground from under him – if he ain’t even picking the team then why not go to Palace where he might be appreciated better ?

    Best thing that could happen is that Anita will prove how good he really is with a run in the side and get a decent partnership going with Sissoko – though we are still woefully short of creativity going forward.

    Anyone thinking a replacement for AP will surely be an upgrade needs to think on what has already happened under Mash

  • 337 LeToonARMY // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    BEST TEAM
    ___________________KRUL___________________ __DEBUCHY___YANGA___COLLO____SANTON___
    ___________ANITA__________TIOTE________
    ___BEN ARFA____SISSOKO_____JONAS______
    __________________CISSE____________________

    SUBS:
    DUMMET
    MARVEUX
    BIGI
    SAMMY
    GOUFFRAN
    SHOLA

  • 338 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Yo-yo

    Yep, it’s one of those scenarios.

    I personally have a huge lack of trust in Ashley so would blame him but the consensus in the press is its down to cabaye so not sure really.

  • 339 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    D’Gea is useless. Carrick doesn’t do anything. Norwich have better midfielders such as Leroy Fer.

  • 340 Rotonda heights // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    sage

    no point keeping an unhappy player

  • 341 Jail for Ashley // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    yo-yo,
    Very good post !

  • 342 hadthetshirt // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    It was hardly a surprise Anita was man of the match.The lad has been MOM.nearly every time he has played and hardly had a bad game.He will be dropped again though for jonas.Why is it 90%of fans can see jonas and 23 are shite yet pardwho keeps picking them.I hope JFK is taking notes and telling ashley to sell these 2 muppets.
    Hope palace get pardwho.I would rather have jfk than him.

  • 343 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    https://twitter.com/shiteseats/status/371403292376850432/photo/1

    Some fans have faith in JFK!

  • 344 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Where can a buy the NUFC shirt we played in against Braga in the friendly?

  • 345 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Rotonda

    Agree there isn’t. But of he is throwing a strop and refusing to play dot let him get his way. We don’t need the money as we don’t spend any.

    Make him worry about his actions and give him a couple weeks to train alone and sell in January. Make him regret what he’s done and worry about his World Cup place. Got no time or sympathy for players who act like spoilt bratts.

    Providing the speculation is true of course.

  • 346 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Kets

    De gea has come on loads this past season, getting better aerially and probably one of, if not the, best shot stopper in the league. Far from useless.

    Then leroy fer better than man utd midfield? Your just looking for a reaction with comments like that.

    If man utd were as poor as you say then no manager would have gotten them to win the league the last two years. Especially last year when the won at a canter.

  • 347 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Kets talks the biggest load of shite on here, Utd aren’t as good as Norwich etc etc. Fer is better than Man Utd’s players/player

    Then his homo erotic fixation on Alderwierld, or his constent listing of players costing more than we have ever spent under MA.

  • 348 IITianToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Guys can anyone please tell me a site to watch HD streams of PL games WITHOUT having to download any app..

  • 349 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Yo-yo…it might be one of those two scenarios – either way I would still have liked an upgrade to Pardew at the end of last season!

    …not that I suspect he would get backed, but the football can hardly get any worse. At the end of the day it’s football I am here to watch :)

  • 350 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Leroy Fer is better than Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson etc. Alex Ferguson was the difference. They’ll struggle to make the top 10 this season with Moyes in charge.

  • 351 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    Shut up Kets.

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  • 353 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    *aaarhhh! forgot to copy paste :(

  • 354 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Jesper

    How are things lad? Been up to much? Hope all is well. So what have you made from our awe inspiring start to the season?

  • 355 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    I’m serious about Man Utd. I really don’t think their squad is good enough. Spurs and Arsenal have much better players. Paulinho, Cazorla, Vertonghen, Giroud etc are class acts.

  • 356 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Also not really seen any of the Anita bashers on today ?

    Missing comments such as ” Hes too feeble” “Never wants the ball” “Cant Pass” etc etc

    Well he played against one of the most physical teams in the league and held his own only City and probably Stoke are beastier than West Ham so that argument can be put to bed as we have played 2 of them already !

    Tiote is not that much taller than him either but Anita offers so much more to our play if only we had a decent manager to build our play around him

  • 357 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Exactly, Anita is quality on the ball and plays the simple pass. Great talent. Definitely one of the best dm’s in the league.

  • 358 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Let’s be honest here, anyone who thinks Tiote is a better player than Anita simply doesn’t understand football.

  • 359 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Ruddy…I have more or less given up mate!

    …we are screwed either way – a new manager won’t get backed and we are stuck with Mike non the less (and Joke)

    And players are starting to jump ship (not that I blame ‘em)

    On the non-football related side I am just great :) How about you mate?

  • 360 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Ruddy, did you see my post to you last night?

  • 361 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Cardiff are putting on a show here.

  • 362 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I wanted us to sign Anita last year and we snapped him up. He used to play in a team with Vertonghen, Suarez, Siem De Jong, Alderweireld, Eriksen, Denswil etc. Great players.

  • 363 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    santon

    is beastier a technical term :-)

  • 364 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    @Wolfshead

    It is in Glasgow mate!!

    ha ha

  • 365 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Ruddy

    I think tiote was a better DM than Anita, or at least as good, but playing a different style.

    His passing wasn’t as quick but he won the ball better, imposed himself on the game and kept it simple.

    However the past year and a bit tiote has totally fallen away from his standard for whatever reason and now Anita has clearly surpassed him.

  • 366 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Have been saying for ages that Anita should be playing every week.
    Marv should also be starting instead of jonas, it’s not to see is it?
    it’s sad to watch what is going in at the moment.

    If cabs has refused to play, and that is if, he would not play again under me if I was manager.Total lack of respect for team mates and fans.

  • 367 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    MacToon

    I was off the blog from around 8.30 last night, so no I don’t think I did, want to give me the jist of it? haha

    Jesper

    Apathy seems to be taking hold among a lot of supporters, although I think the fact that there was still over 49,000 is a bit worrying and there are still plenty of people who will go to St James’ Park.

    Not too bad lad, getting things sorted for the big move :D

  • 368 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Sage

    When he kept it simple he was a good player, but even at his best he cannot pass the ball, he cannot carry the ball forward and he is a liability when it comes to picking up cards.

    He should be nowhere near the first XI, but it’s pointless discussing it because we know Pards will put him straight back in.

  • 369 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    @Transfer sage It’s quite obvious Tiote is a better DM… IMO Tiote is the better player only thing Anita has better than Tiote is pace..Let’s face it you can sit an say Tiote this and that but the fact is on his day like vs man utd 2 seasons ago he can be the best DM in the world… On his day…

  • 370 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    I found it so copy n paste time!

    Ruddy, you like my photo? Was asked if I could get Rob lee to wear a MaoC shirt or get him to hold one up or take a pic with him standing next to someone wearing one, so got 2 outta 3

    He was true to his legendary status, he did an interview type questions and answers to a bar full of people and was really funny. When asked about Pardew, JFK and Ashley, he did not have anything complimentary to say.

    This was the sky interview he did in the bar http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/video/78589/yohan-cabaye-sir-john-hall-and-rob-lee-have-their-say
    It’s mixed in with Sir JH being asked about Cabs.

    Been told now the pics reached over 15K people !!!!

  • 371 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    I’m off for another half hour here lads, watching Tyrone vs Mayo

    C’mon Tyrone! :D

  • 372 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Anyone know where you can see a full copy of club accounts and not just articles with snippets?

  • 373 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    MacToon

    That’s great, always figured Rob Lee would be a nice guy, and would have a fan’s mentality when it comes to the ownership.

    I saw the pic yesterday and retweeted it a number of times, trying to get it out there haha It’s great to see him endorse the campaign and hopefully that will encourage people to get involved.

    ‘ll be back in 30mins!

  • 374 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Tiote is better than Anita for me anyday.

  • 375 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Ruddy…ohh yeah you are leaving very soon. Is it next week?

  • 376 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Not sure if you can see a full account of the books as it’s a private company and not a PLC

  • 377 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Kevy

    I think Anita is ahead of tiote. Tiote hasn’t had his day for over a season now. It’s been far too long. He’s lost it as people figured him out and he hasn’t adapted.

  • 378 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Jack

    So when everyone keeps saying to me look at the accounts, Ashley takes nothing out…they won’t have seen them themselves?

  • 379 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    I am watching Spurs vs. Swansea; and Jesus what an ugly away shirt Swansea has lol

    …common Swansea!

  • 380 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Tiote is not in the same league as Anita imo

  • 381 IITianToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    hey guys here can i watch the FULL Match.. pretty PLEASE with sugar on top.. :)

  • 382 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    I know mate, you and tads both posted the picture up :-)
    Was a bonus really as I was asked to cover gates unveiling ceremony at invite by the club! I love the Irony.
    Enjoy your match.

  • 383 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    You can’t say Anita is better than Tiote after you have seen him play like 3 games.

  • 384 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Anita is a better technical player than Tiote. Tiote is better at getting yellow cards and fouling.

  • 385 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    One game is enough to make up my mind as tiote doesn’t have a football brain

  • 386 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    re tiote/anita enjoy them both :-)

  • 387 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Kevy

    Anita has player more than three games and going off last season and the bit of this solar I’d say he is playing better than tiote.

  • 388 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    “on his day like vs man utd 2 seasons ago” pretty much sums up Tiote he has been dining off that performance and the Arsenal goal for years now he has been shite for the best part of a year and a half now

    Bradford were able to raise their game for a couple of matches to get to a cup final does not make them premier league players

    Anita can do everything Tiote cant he can pass, run with the ball , move into space , can tackle without giving a foul and he can also shoot as well

    Although I think there is no point in constantly arguing over Tiote/Anita situation because it comes down to 2 categories for me

    Those who like proper pass and move football will like Anita

    and

    Those who like the shite that we get served on a weekly basis will like Tiote and Jonas

  • 389 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Anita gave the ball away quite a few times yesterday. First half ,more than Tiote would have.

  • 390 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Transfer Sage

    As far as I know you can only gain access to a companies books if it’s a PLC and therefore access is granted under the freedom of information act, but seeing as we are a privately owned company access is limited to say the least and Ashley can release what ever he like’s.

    So as I understand it all the amateur accountants on here are basing their knowledge of the books on press reports and pure guess work

  • 391 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Tiote can’t pass wind.

  • 392 Macas // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    You can’t compare Tiote and Anita, they are two completely different players. Tiote is a ballwinner while Anita is more of a link up player.

  • 393 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    TS, did you see this I posted earlier. Has some new information in as far as I’m concerned and curious where they have got it from.

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/confused-you-will-be/

  • 394 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    People need to look at the Tiote that joined us and the Tiote we now see every week.

    THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO

  • 395 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Kevy

    Got to disagree, he rarely gave the ball away, especially in the dangerous areas like tiote.

    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2013/matches/694917/player-stats/40799/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

    That’s his stats from the game on passes. 8 stray passes and 5 of them were long balls over the top.

  • 396 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    @Macas How can you say Anita is a link up player? He made like 2 glory’s passes yesterday and that was it.

    It’s not like we didn’t see Tiote and cabaye spraying passes everywhere about the pitch when they were playing…Were do you’s people get this from? Tiote can’t pass? don’t know how many times ive seen him put amazing balls in to the back stick or play ackward amazing balls back to the keeper when he needs to.

  • 397 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Did anyone think that after the end of last season shola would be playing at the start of this season? This shows very poor running of a football team.

  • 398 Thump // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Those stats are very telling, Transfer Sage. I hope Pardew (being the stat-lover that he is) looks at it and realises that while he doesn’t quite have the range as Cabaye, technically he’s very similar.

  • 399 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Jack

    That’s what I thought. Unless its a prem league rule to make all accounts public? Not sure.

    I think the people who say the accounts show x, y or z need to show is where they get the complete accounts from. Just using random bits of info from articles doesn’t show the full picture.

    Mactoon

    Yes it’s an interesting read. Any idea where it they get the info and how reliable it is? No sources quoted.

  • 400 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Cardiff giving a really good account of themselves, if Campbell could finish they could have had a couple of goals

  • 401 wolfshead@toon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    ive got an ad for the new danny trejo film :-)

  • 402 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Transfer Sage

    It was funny that a few weeks ago a certain person was using a report from one newspaper to back up his opinion on the clubs finances and then went on to dismiss a press report from the same paper who had link us with a player saying all press stories were BS a few days later

  • 403 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Kevy

    For me tiote was his past when he did what Anita does. Get the ball and move it on quickly to the likes of Ben arfa, cabaye, Guthrie when he was hear…win the ball and release it.

    Last year he tried to play killer balls, and whilst he got some right. Away to reading for the Ba volley was amazing. He just tries it too often when it’s not his job and there are better players to play those balls. If he just kept it simple and only went for the killer pass when it’s in his favour he would be good again. Unfortunately be has spent a pod year holding on the ball too much, turning with it in our own half and giving it away.

    I’m not saying he is useless or a millions miles off Anita, just he is horrendously out of form and has been for a good 6months.

  • 404 bosamuelson // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Hey folks what was the blogs fantasy football league code?

  • 405 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    I know TS, I’m trying to get it looked into. They seem pretty sure of it though but they, like most of us, are wondering wtf Ashley is actually up to.

  • 406 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Also how soul destroying is it to see Cardiff giving City a game?

    If we had that sides commitment to the cause we would possibly have 3 or 4 points rather than 1 so far

  • 407 cyprus // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    So if Cardiff should have been ahead against City (pen should have been given) where does that leave us as a team?

  • 408 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    @Transfer sage and you think that’s just him getting big headed playing them balls? No it’s clearly instructed. The manager goes over everything with the players tells them exactly what he wan’t from them. And as I said a few months back the world cup is next summer watch tiote become a beast again for Ivory Coast

  • 409 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    PEOPLE..has us linked with Troy Deeney!!!

  • 410 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Jack

    Yeh get a lot like that. I know I had a good discussion with blackley and brownlie last night…he said we should be quite happy we are a pretty consistent top flight team (just one year out) and have a faulty solid prem team. On reflection the guy is right…we should be happy about that, and I am. A lot of teams who were big in the past like Leeds, Forrest, Ipswich have all faded away and dropped down leagues, they’d kill for our squad in the prem.

    I get his point entirely, I just think with more times buys (not lpads more money, loans or free transfers) an we could really take advantage more and bring even better football and more entrainment to the club.

    On the other hand simply hiring a better manager (not bigger name just better style) could have a similar effect and not even cost Ashley anything.

  • 411 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Kevy

    It might not all be tiote but players need to take personal responsibility a bit, the manager can tell them when to kick and how far.

    He may have been told to play more passes but he still needs to use his brain to pick the right time for it and not just try to fill the quota he has been asked of. He needs to be much smarter with his play.

  • 412 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Tiote better than Anita? Pfft.

    Also, they may be two different types of players, but they play the same position so how is it unfair to compare them? That’s like saying, because one striker is a target man with aerial ability, and one striker is a poacher who runs off the shoulder, that it is unfair to compare them. Ridiculous.

  • 413 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    JB…are you watching the Cardiff game?

    How is it? I am watching the Swansea game!

  • 414 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I’d be more than happy to go into this season with our current squad and a better manager, but under Pardew we will need another two or three players as he makes a negative difference.

    Ashley should realise that not only would it be cheaper to replace him, but the effect on the squad would be massive and it would give the fans a massive boost as well

  • 415 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    @Jesper Cardiff all over City.

    How is that game going? Soldado look like scoring?

  • 416 Macnapper // Aug 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Not a regular contributor but read the blog everyday and especially the comments. I’ve woken up this morning with this thought.
    Is it possible that there is a loss of motivation for the purple players? something they are not happy about? But cannot speak to the press about? Im adding the link to Joey Barton in this recent interview, its pretty interesting about bonuses:

    http://www.themag.co.uk/video-replay/do-not-miss-this-joey-barton-reveals-all-about-ashley-the-players-chris-hughton-dennis-wise/

    So now Cabaye is on strike? trying to force a move? because of a bid by Arsenal or PSG? he doesn’t need to be wrapped in cotton wool like Bale. Baines and Fellaini are playing for Everton even though Man Ure are low balling Everton. Cabaye is making a statement and last season it was Collocini, there is something going on with the players that is just odd. I’m really suspicious about the behaviour of our two most respected players. Captain Collo disappeared for 4 months last season, that is a player strike not a back injury, the captain and senior player requests a free transfer to his Dad’s favourite club? Now it’s Cabaye, our most beloved player, the quarterback of the team. Suddenly he doesn’t want to pull on the shirt? Maybe he does want to go to Arsenal and this is guff but I think it connects to Joey Bartons’ comments about bonuses.

    I keep reading on here the comment ‘Pardew cannot get the players to play’ or ‘Pardew can’t get the best out of them’. At Man City. 1 shot on target. Yesterday 0, Nothing. No shots on target, at home to West Ham? Do me a favour. I don’t know why but I think the players are on some kind of go slow/strike, and I believe they are as fond of Ashley as we are, I think he’s as good to them, as he is to us. I think Cabaye is making some sort of statement about the way the club is run. He is a man of principle and has had enough of either:

    Pardew
    Ashley
    Kinnear
    Player Bonuses
    No Transfers
    or perhaps its just the whole. damn. deal.

  • 417 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    jesper

    Cardiff are giving a really good account of themselves to be fair to them.

    They are on the back foot most of the time as City are having the majority of the ball, but they look very solid and organised and are restricting City to half chances and when they break out they are causing City real problems through Campbell’s pace

  • 418 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Why watch Tiote become a beast with Ivory Coast ?

    I cant wait that long for him to become decent he needs to get good again NOW or the next time he has earned a run in our team and that should only be when Anita and Sissoko get injured or suspended because they have earned a go now possibly Bigi deserves a go more than him now as well

    Cant keep letting players who used to be good getting constant chances to prove themselves although Shola has had 13 years of that

  • 419 solano38 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Yesterday, Newcastle were a shambles in the first half. Although they were better in the second (couldn’t be any worse), they didn’t manage an on-target shot for the whole match (i’m not counting Ameobi hitting the post, that was obviously meant to be a centre). Ben Arfa was far too selfish, Cisse starved of any decent passes, Shola, well Shola should retire while he can still keep it honourable. Jarvis ran rings round Debuchy, the latter in my opinion being highly overrated and if we could cart him off with his pal Kebab we shouldn’t hesitate.But why do we worry? Pardew seems happy with these rubbishy displays. The only light in this bleak affair came from Anita and Sissoko. We’re heading for the same season as the last one : getting thumped off the big teams and incapable of beating the smaller ones, even at home. I don’t think it’s entirely the players’s fault : they’re run by a management team that hasn’t a clue. Hey, what d’ya expect?

  • 420 cyprus // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous,
    Could Anita win the ball from ANYONE? The other guy’s right, you are comparing apples and oranges.

  • 421 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Jack

    Klopp who is in charge of Dortmund has a reported Salary of 1.8mil euros so roughly 1.6mil pounds. That works out just over 30k a week…hardly a huge amount when compared to players.

    Now I’m not saying we could get klopp. But if that amount of money gets that calibre then surely by just spending a bit more on a manager can surely attract a better one easily?

    We are a prem club, have a decent squad, and even with Ashley not spending or giving total control to signings it’s no different from a lot of European clubs who struggle to sign anyone due to poor finances.

  • 422 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Warren Barton ?@warrenbarton2 26s
    Welshman Bale has agreed a £97m six-year contract to join Spanish club Real Madrid.

  • 423 MacToon // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    That banner at the match yesterday with JFK as the clown of the premiership, I think the club’s the circus of the prem at the moment.
    I truely wish it wasn’t but cannot see it improving while Ashley is the evil ringmaster.

  • 424 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    @Santon Did you even watch the game yesterday? Anita gave the ball away ALOT first half and Sissoko did nothing but have 1 or 2 busting runs and a shot over the bar. Ther pressure in the middle for us was poor west ham could do what they wanted no one was closng down.

  • 425 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Cyprus

    In your opinion he is right, hardly a fact now is it? Tiote is a DM and Anita is a DM, of course it is fair to compare who is a better player.

    I forgot that all a DM has to do is just win the ball…

  • 426 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Cyprus

    Anita did win the ball a few times. Not through strength but through timing his tackles. The same way makelele did…just not in the same league as him.

  • 427 Newcastle for alltid // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    It was shocking to see how we didn`t even go for it from the beginning yesterday. What should`ve been a game where we went out full throttle to show people what we can do like every other team in the league, we got a half-hearted dismantled mess. It looked like it was the end of an exhausting season when it in fact was the start of a new one.

    I am also starting to doubt out team. Sure, we should be able to do much better with a different mentality, but still I would expect to see moments of brilliance from so-called top players. We should be able to play little one-two`s, string passes and movement together – even though we have a poor overall tactic.
    People saying we have a player-for-player better squad than Man Utd should rethink before writing nonsense, as these “poor” players like Carrick have a vision and understanding of the game that most of our players can only dream of. What we have is a mix of young players with potential with some seniors that have had a mixed career. Raw talent still learning the game. We are miles behind the top teams in having players with a profound understanding of the game.

  • 428 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Kevy

    He have the ball away 8 times with 5 of those long balls over the top. Look at the official opta stats I posted. It pretty much ties in with how I saw the same too.

  • 429 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    @Ruddy if you had watched the game yesterday you would know that everything Anita done Tiote could have done and more.

  • 430 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    @Kevy

    YES i watched the game ! Of course Anita gave the ball away a little in the 1st half its his first start in donkeys years ! But he done everything properly as the game wore and was dictating the play with some lovely passes in the 2nd half have not seen Tiote do this in years in fact I dont think he would be capable of doing this anymore

    Its clear we are never going to agree over this but I will be the first to congratulate Tiote when he gets back to form just hope Anita gets a run in the team and you can then admit when he proves you wrong!

  • 431 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Transfer Sage

    The reason that Ashley has stuck with Pardew is that he does what he’s told to do and bleats the party line to the press.

    Ashley has complete control over him as he know’s that if Pardew were to walk away he’d be walking away from the biggest job and biggest club he has ever worked for or ever will and he knows that the likelihood of getting a better manager in that he can control in the same way is near impossible.

  • 432 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    What a goal dzeko

  • 433 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Kevy

    You’re slating Anita for giving away the ball and yet you think Tiote is a better player? Away with the fairies lad, Tiote’s default setting is giving the ball away.

  • 434 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    0-1 City edin dzeko with a stunner

  • 435 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Let’s just agree to disagree :D There both brilliant players thats all that matters :D

  • 436 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    kevy…it’s actually a great game, both teams are very becoming :)

    …Saldado has been kept quite for most parts.

  • 437 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Maybe there is a split in the dressing room, it was rumoured the French and Argentinian factions were not happy with each other some time back, around when Colo got cold feet wasn’t it? And then Cabaye said that last season he was battling depression. Not belittling depression, but from experience many say they have had it but don’t really know what real depression is a bit like people who have a cold always banging on about having ‘flu which is NOTHING like it. Was he clinically diagnosed, or was he just reflecting on an unhappy year of reflecting on broken promises, guilt over convincing his best buds to come as well, who knows.

    Maybe its the Captain thing. Was Cabs promised the armband when Colo was intent on leaving? These and other mysteries of which we are not privy must be going on under the surface, it would explain why they all look so unhappy on the pitch, and play like it.

  • 438 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Jack

    That’s obvious. Houghton was moved out as he had integrity. Pardew was sacked from a league one club (fairly or unfairly going off different stories) and was going nowhere.

    Totally left field choice but clear it because he’s tow the party line. Same reason llambias was in and now JFK.

  • 439 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Pokat

    I think the split is against the manager

  • 440 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    @Ruddy why bring negativity to the blog? Your always slating someone or something. Yea ok then whatever let’s go sell Tiote and whoever else doesn’t meet your standers and see where that gets us?

  • 441 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Kevy

    Fair enough. Both when on form can really influence a game and bring different things to the side. Ideally they are both in form and either play together or rotate when needed.

  • 442 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    JB…a shame Citeh has scored then :(

    …penalty for Spurs :(

  • 443 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    So, despite Anita and Marv not really making any impact going forward yesterday, any positive thoughts on sticking with them?

  • 444 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    deeney apparently has choice us or spurs and we have offered him 10kpw more, could be complete rubbish but seems a strange thing to just make up

  • 445 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Soldado scored (and it wasn’t even a penalty)

  • 446 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    kevymartins

    The Tiote of three seasons ago was a top class player who dominated midfields and as a result had most of the ‘Big’ clubs looking at him, the Tiote of today is average at best and a long way from what he can be

  • 447 Transfer Sage // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Pokat

    Marv needs a look in in the middle not out wide as it shows preferred position so harsh to judge.

    Anita brought the ball from the back four and spread it well. Nice one twos with sissoko to allow him to beat a man and drive forward. Good signs.

  • 448 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Kebab…I don’t even know who Troy Deeney is :) (other than he plays for Watford)

  • 449 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    jesper

    No shame mate as it keeps them below us :D

  • 450 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    @439 – if that sort of thing grabs hold, usually the manager ends up having his name painted off the car parking space.

    I think we might end the transfer window with Cabs gone and one in, Remy back and maybe Pards sticking with a slightly new first 11, three or four games and if there’s no difference Mikey will eject him forthwith. Can’t see Ashley flirting with the bottom of the table come christmas time.

  • 451 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    1-1 :(

  • 452 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    cardiffs showing against city makes us look so feeble

  • 453 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    See that Cardiff goal. 4 players i box. We don’t do that. That is coaching and tactics.

  • 454 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Some run by that Kim lad there. They deserve it for their effort. Pity we don’t have a team packed with international calibre players like Cardiff er hang on wait a minute………………

  • 455 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Pokat

    I may be seeing something that other are not and therefore be totally wrong, but to me the players look as if they are simply going through the motions, there’s not fight, intensity or desire in our play.

    Look at every other club so far this season then watch us and the difference is frightening to say the least and that thats why I think Pardew has lost the players

  • 456 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Also @Ruddy I’m gone with the fairies? You wouldn’t know what happened you didn’t watch the match basing something on something you didn’t even see now? Your opinion changes more than a drunk at a whore house. Today it’s Tiote tomorrow it will be Saylor, Colo, Santon…Your gone with the fairies lad

  • 457 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    JB…easy now still 36 games to go mate ;)

  • 458 Macnapper // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Pokat

    Agreed, thats a better way of saying it, there is something going on behind the scenes and the team are not playing with any burning desire at all, especially at home. We never got anyone in the box except at corners. Which are a guaranteed no scoring opportunity. Why?

    Pardew has an 8 year contract, so effectively his job is to shut up. The players are not playing like they enjoy playing, and there is more to this than a bid for Cabaye’s services. Does anyone know if the player bonuses thing got resolved?

  • 459 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Without Komapny City’s back line is very shaky

  • 460 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    @447 – I hope so. But I stick to my theory that they are not the greatest players, but will do a good job if given a run in a properly set up side. The way Pardew plays Marv is well stated – wrongly. It will be frustrating for him until he gets positioned right, we pass and move more efficiently, and get our players to utilise space better.

  • 461 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Kevy

    My opinion of Tiote hasn’t changed, he’s a limited player. My opinion of Anita wasn’t based on yesterday’s game, it’s based on seeing him for Ajax, the few games he played for us which clearly shows he is much better than Tiote.

    As for Saylor – the guy is a poor defender
    Santon – positionally needs to improve
    Colo – still has the brain, losing the legs.

    And as for being negative? Can I ask what part of supporting NUFC right now is positive?

  • 462 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    HAHA yes have soldado to score and spurs to win.

  • 463 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Did anyone watch Samp vs. Juve last night?

  • 464 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Well called that thing about watching other teams – doesn’t anyone else think we are the most lacklustre looking team in the leagues(s) to watch, and have been for a while now? Its like they are running against the wind. I watched the scousers match later and it was chalk and cheese, entertaining, relentless, vibrant and showcased the strengths of both clubs in each half. I hate myself for saying that.

  • 465 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Don’t know if anyone saw Goals on Sunday today, but the host said that West Ham have won one away game in the League in about 14 or 15 games I think he said. Add that little bit of info to yesterdays sickening mix. That was without Carroll as well.

    He’d have been all over some of those crosses that Jarvis was putting over.

  • 466 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    cardiff remind me of us in the season we finished 5th in this match

  • 467 Pokat // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Hats off to Cardiff fans for being so laid back and accepting. The owner changing the shirt colour is one thing, but tucking it into those pants is NOT a good look. They take it very well :)

  • 468 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    kevy…Swansea has just misted two great opportunities ;)

    …and the Spurs penalty was a dive!

  • 469 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    @Jesper Shame I only had 50p left in my betting acount after withdrawing money last night cuz I stuck it on Juve to win and tevez to score first.

  • 470 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Most people not blinded by the form Tiote showed two seasons ago, will realize that over the whole of last season, Anita in the few games he played put in more Solid PL level performances as well as stringing together a couple MoTM performances.

    On the other hand, Tiote was p1ss poor on his best days.

    When I was still under the name, Pheonix Warrior Perch, I was called a nutter for even suggesting Tiote was sh!t back in Jan. I was told to judge him at the end of the season and that opinion has not changed.

    We should sell Tiote while we still can. He is a liability and offers nothing on the pitch besides free kicks to the opposition.

  • 471 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Newcastle will continue to spiral down the stairs of mediocrity if we continue to rely on players like Ameobi, Jonas and Tiote… let alone continue to have the silver haired tw@t as our manager and a smoldering lump of turd as our Director of Football.

  • 472 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    kevy…but didn’t Juve win? (or did Tevez not score?)

    Did Manolo Gabbiadini play upfront for Samp?

  • 473 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Whats this chat about bonuses ?

    None of our players last year really deserved any bonuses !

  • 474 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Cardiff score hahaha

  • 475 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    2-1 Cardiff

  • 476 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    lool go on cardiff

  • 477 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Wow cardiff 2-1

  • 478 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    we need someone with a delivery like that, creates so many chances

  • 479 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    @Jesper yea they won and tevez scored first I was raging because I only had 50p on it wish I hada stuck like £5 on it.

  • 480 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    And Citeh teared us apart :) lol

  • 481 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    come on city

  • 482 Goodfella // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Cardiff are showing just how poor we are.

  • 483 toon kk // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Seeing other teams play just proves how POOR we are.

  • 484 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    We are going to be torn apart this season, no doubt about it!

  • 485 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Cardiff could be picking up points here that we realy dont want them to be getting.

  • 486 papattack // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    cardiff beating city.. wow, now thats a kick in the bollocks.

  • 487 hatemorloveit // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    do people still want to say that the game against Manchester does not count?

  • 488 woolerbill // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    CARDIFF
    YOU SEE WHAT A TEAM PLAYING ONLY THEIR SECOND GAME EVER IN THE PREM, CAN DO WHEN YOU SET UP YOUR TEAM TO HAVE A GO. PARDEW LOOK AND LISTEN AND LEARN HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL.

  • 489 Goodfella // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Wow 3 -1

  • 490 papattack // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    mot7

    thats depressing isnt it, we’re already hoping relegation candidates lose so we have more chance of staying up. thats how poor we are. this is gunna be a long season.

  • 491 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    3-1

    Corners

  • 492 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    My god 3-1

  • 493 fatman // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Don’t worry lads when Krull goes to Arsenal we will have the world renowned Rob Elliot to save our season.

  • 494 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    once again, what a delivery

    citys marking was poor but you always give yourself a chance with a delivery like that

  • 495 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Malky mckay – a manager

    Pardew – Jainator with Notepad

  • 496 Yohan Kebab // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    we need someone who can sodding cross

  • 497 Robin // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Cardiff shows how weak Newcastle looks right now

  • 498 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    and ppl think I am delusional when I say we could be relegated…Cardiff is outplaying City…..

    we got sodomised by city… God we are utter SHITE….

  • 499 Toon Tang // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    i tell ya what, i hope our boys and pards are watching this.

    HARD WORK pays off

  • 500 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    If you attack, you get corners, where u have a chance of scoring from. We can’t do either. Attack well or score corners. Nice one, Alan. Not.

  • 501 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    SACK PARDEWWWWW … FK LOOK AT CARDIF MANAGER HE MAKES PARDEW LOOK LIKE S**T

  • 502 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Robin

    yeap….thats a whole hearted performance… we are a JOKE of a club right now really are… its sad sad sad sad for us…

  • 503 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Knowing what you are doing pays off!

  • 504 jazzyp // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Evening lads
    I was at the game yesterday guys and imo we are still far to exposed at the back. A team with better quality would have been more clinical and shown us up for what we are.
    A more worrying aspect of the game for me was cisse’s performance again. We tried all different formations last season and this even playing with shola up front to give him more support. But the lad to jus doesn’t want to be here and he clearly aint bothered abut paying for Wonga !!

  • 505 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Toon Tang

    of coarse they are not watching this…too much ego and could not care less….We are MUCH worse than i though we where abd BOY did I think we are bad.

  • 506 kevymartins // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Come back on for city?

  • 507 fatman // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    i should have added that at least we’ll not get many boring 0-0 draws we’ll be back to the 6-0 scorelines, the trouble with Ashley he see’s a shelf stacker on row b17 and they can also stack the shelves on d04 so why have so many shelf stacker at the Toon if you cant get those on the bench to sign zero hours contracts then stick to bare minimum numbers, and just stick number 14 in goal, they do that at Ashley’s local pub team, and apparently Kinnear does a good dance with those Yankee pompoms.

  • 508 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    cardif 2-0 newcastle…. ul.see that unless pardew is sacked

  • 509 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Cardiff embarrassing City (the team that destroyed us) with a team full of players that would get no where near our first team . How anyone can defend Pardew is beyond me .

  • 510 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Pap
    I know we shouldnt think like that so close to the start of the season .
    But there is something realy wrong at the toon and i cant see it getting better any time soon .

  • 511 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    LOL

    Sky Sports News ?@SkySportsNuws 5m
    BREAKING NEWS: Manchester City still can’t win in Europe. #SSN
    Retweeted by Nick Bird

  • 512 Macas // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    kevymartins – I wasn’t comparing their abilities, the complete opposite in fact. I’m saying you can’t compare them because for me they play 2 different roles. Tiote is the more physical player, while Anita is smaller and nippier and likes to lay it off quickly. I’d like to see both playing together.

  • 513 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Well done Cardiff, thats what fight, desire and determination gets you…………….

  • 514 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    I wonder what Pardew is thinking sitting at home watching the City game ? .

  • 515 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    we are getting relegated if Pardew is still here after Jan

  • 516 JAMSHA // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    well played cardif….. wat a fkn game enjoyd….

  • 517 JackButler // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    We’re doomed……………….Doomed I tell ya !!!!!!

  • 518 juanpeterbeardsley // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    All this talk of boycotts is daft , the club are already losing thousands of fans .Fact they have offered thousands of reduced tickets to Cobalt and other business parks for the Hull game in the past week (1000 to Cobalt alone)
    They have a week to put it right Iam not optimistic are you?
    Yesterday on the pitch was nice to see Anita and Sissoko together but you just know Pardew will put Tiote and guti back in and as for Marv on the wing he is so much better in the middle surely he watched the Arsenal and Man u games last season away.

    3 1 to Cardiff puts our result in perspective .Lets hope he keeps the partnership in midfield together at least for wednesday if cabaye is away

  • 519 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Well done Cardiff brilliant display….showing the PL what can be done….they actually humiliated them…. newly promoted club banging 3 goals in…

    If we had to replay city 114 times we would not score…

  • 520 Thump // Aug 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Well bloody done, Cardiff.

  • 521 toon kk // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    If Cardiff can play that well for a newly promoted club we don’t deserve to be in the same league.

  • 522 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Ashley Pardew Kinnear Jesus H Christ what have we gotten ourselves into…

  • 523 Thump // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    @toon kk: Don’t be so daft, man. They’d have slaughtered Cardiff if we hadn’t tired City out last week ;)

  • 524 fatman // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    It appears no thought to tell Cardiff they were supposed to get beat off man city, obviously Pardew is more a more experienced manage and Knew how to set the team up better, so unprofessional of Cardiff and cheating.

  • 525 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Well done cardiff just goes to show when the players play for each other and give a shite about the club they play for you can beat so called better players .
    Put the effort in and create your own luck.
    NUFC were beaten before they even got on the coach to manchester pardum seen to that.

  • 526 Indian Magpie // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    What will happen if pardew lost his NOTEPAD ?

  • 527 Rooster // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    SJP stinks like the TYNE at this noment. We are disjointed in every department, goalies the only consistant part.

    How can that clown Pardew say west ham came here and just pumped long balls at us, he seriously is deluded, and Cabs has to decide what he wants to do says Pardew?!?!? Are u kidding man, once a player says he does not want to play for NUFC tou automaticallt tell him he does not play again, Cloughy would have chinned the daft get.

  • 528 jazzyp // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Rooster
    The trouble is mate I don’t think its just cabs that doesn’t want to play for the toon anymore.

  • 529 Jail for Ashley // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Interestin.
    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-holloway-encouraged-despite-defeat-183717595.html

  • 530 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Cardiff game also shows how bad our scouting network is….all this crap about carr being great….frazer campbell for less than 1 million???? Christ my mother could have seen that as a bargain.
    We’re a joke of a club and always will be…period

  • 531 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    INDIAN
    He would have to think of his post match excuses on the spot

  • 532 terencelim // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Cardiff result makes people who say ManCity’s result doesn’t count even more stupid. They’re repeatedly proven wrong and repeatedly ignore the lesson – Ashley’s decision and greed is destroying every part of this football club.

    They’ll again use their favourite words – IF and BUT

    IF Saylor wasn’t sent off…
    BUT Cardiff was playing at home…
    blah blah blah…

  • 533 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Cardiff showing us how to play with some belief and pride there

    The most pathetic and embarrassing thing about the toon is that some fans still seem happy and believe we only need a CF

  • 534 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    @ NUFC FOR SALE

    Carr probably recommends hundreds of players to Pardew. The way it used to works is Carr takes a list to Pardew, then Pardew picks the ones he likes and then they get Llambias to get the funds and do the deal . For all we know Carr has scouted some of the players like Michu but Alan hasn’t agreed with it .

    God knows what Kinnear does but it isn’t working. I never thought I would say this but :

    Bring back Llambias :)

  • 535 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    I know it’s early days this season but showing we haven’t strengthened from last season and one of our best players looking like leaving, I have a feeling that we are going to struggle again this season.
    Why can’t pardew or joe just tell the truth?
    Club is ran by someone who just wants the team to survive. He will spend enough in jan just to keep us up! Sad.

  • 536 Jail for Ashley // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    tads,
    Mashley seems to thrive in a poisonous atmosphere and obviously wasn’t comfortable with the feel good factor a couple of seasons ago.

  • 537 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Joe can pick up the phone and speak to any manager about players! Oh my word.

  • 538 mot7 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    tads
    to true mate belife and pride won wimbledon a fa cup greece and denmark euro champs it makes cup giant killing upsets .
    No cf is going to inject that into the rest of the squad

  • 539 fatman // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Apparently Pardew’s installed s**t proof covers on all the fan’s so we should be OK until the end of the window. mind the other 51,000 at the next game will not be so lucky.

  • 540 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Well done, Cardiff.

  • 541 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    JB…I know we are ;)

  • 542 theartfuldodger // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Im not so sure that Ashley will know the cardiff-mancity score.

  • 543 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    I dont think we can blame Carr for the players they looked good at their previous clubs

    Thing is as well he has recommended players who were top drawer but we were never willing to splash the cash for example we could have had PEA a season or 2 ago or Wanyama and Fer and we either decided not to splash the cash or Pardew decided he did not like them

    Get Carr’s list of top players and spend 50 million a season on them I bet we would do very very well

  • 544 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Have had a look at our next 10 prem games and can only see us getting 5 points.

  • 545 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    Pards says judge us on the 2 games after City,

    Well Pards No shots on target against a mid table team,no goals in our last 5 prem games. You are a championship manager on a good day riding lady luck for the last 100 games.

    I can’t see how anybody can stand by you now, your awful negative tactics and continuous bull week in week out. The same guy who thought we made a good presence of ourselves at City until Saylor went off WTF.

  • 546 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    JFA
    That probably goes along way to explaining why he also seems hell bent on draining any atmosphere out of SJP by breaking up all the singing section and having the stewards under orders to remove any protesting banners ASAP

    Mot7
    Sadly I can’t see any pride returning anytime soon with Ashley running the show
    I’m also sick of being told to wait and judge him on sept 2nd ffs!

  • 547 colwell // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Jose Mourinho says he will walk if Chelsea don’t win a trophy.

    Steven Hawkins says he’ll walk If Newcastle do.

  • 548 Macnapper // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Good stat from yesterdays game:

    It is the first time in eight seasons a Barclays Premier League team has not had a single shot on target.

    #NUFC record breakers

  • 549 toon kk // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Mark my words MA WILL only take our club one way, that’s back to the championship. I thought there was a five year plan? I must have misunderstood what it was.
    JOKE CLUB.

  • 550 aidytoon9 // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    The man who is in charge couldn’t care what we think him, he just happy that 50 thousand turning up every home game to line his pockets.
    It looks like a lot of people are now starting to realise that we are getting took for a ride.

  • 551 Patoon // Aug 25, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    And Cardiff hav beat the team that completely destroyed us on Monday nite, when is a stand gonna b took, sumthing has 2 b done, can sum1 big come forward and speak for the fans, we need sum1 big in stature, sum1 who loves the club as much as we do, sum1 like Shearer, mass protests must b organised, i 4 1 will attend, i’m from Ireland but would def b on 4 travelling over if it means forcing Pardew out, i don’t think we need any players, if the players we hav wer coached rite we’d b challenging for europe, its clears as day that Pardew has lost it, he says 2 judge on the next 2 games after the city game, they don’t create 1 chance against West Ham at HOME, we wil b relegated if Pardew stays, 10 games is 2 much, he has 2 go now, we wer alot sorer on fat sam and he was alot better on Pardew, PARDEW OUT

  • 552 hadthetshirt // Aug 25, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    If any of you were Cabaye would you want to play for pardwho.No me either.You cant blame the lad from wanting away from a manger that cant lie in bed straight.He’s a clown.All these bloody excuses week in week out from him and that’s before kick off.What are the players supposed to think.Same way as wey aye Cabaye.




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