Joe Kinnear In France Scouting Players – As Time Is Running Out


Newcastle’s Director of Football Joe Kinnear was in France on Saturday to take in the game at Valenciennes when they took on Marseilles, and it was thought that 23 year-old Ghanaian International Andre Ayew was the purpose of the scouting trip.

Andre Ayew

Andre Ayew was watched on Saturday night by Joe Kinnear

Ayew played the whole game for Marseilles, who finally won the game with an 84th minute goal from striker Andre-Pierre Gignac, who was thought to be a Newcastle target earlier this summer.

The news is in the Daily Mail and they report Newcastle are also interested in the 27 year-old Gignac, an 18 times capped French International,  but we’d be surprised if that’s true, since he said earlier in the summer he wanted to join a bigger club than Newcastle – and that should rule him out of a move to Tyneside.

Andre Ayew once had a release clause in his contract of €18M (£15.3M), but that is now said to be obsolete, and his price is around €10M  (£8.5M).

It also seems that Marseilles would be ready to sell the Ghanaian, who has played 135 times for Marseilles with 42 goals and 12 assists, and he seems a decent enough player and goalscorer.

Ayew has also played 43 times for Ghana with four goals.

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115 comments so far

  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #1

    Scouting? A bit late to SCOUT players, players should have been SCOUTED a lot earlier, now now. They should be buying players and negotiating for them not scouting them.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #2

    Mutiny, exactly, they should have been getting them in weeks ago. Unacceptable.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #3

    Are they having a fcuking laugh????
    One week left and the fat fcuk finally thinks hmm i suppose i better go look at a couple of players

    Fcuk off kinnear

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  • Thump

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #4

    Does anybody know anything about Ayew? All I’ve seen is what’s on wiki and that’s not exactly telling (45 games, 13 goals, 5 assists last season). I know he’s young but the stats don’t exactly suggest he’s the player we should be going for…

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  • Thump

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #5

    @toonarmydownsouth: Howay man, don’t be too hard on the bloke – he needed a holiday after all the hard work he did on announcing himself as our director of football. It’s stressful talking to TalkSport!

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  • Toon1978

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #6

    More talk and no action. F..k off JK sick of all this spouting. Put ya money where you mouth is. Another bull sh1t story to pacify the supporters until dead line day approaches with no one coming in. All hot air the lot of them.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #7

    Thump
    Aye true, forgot he had a stressful start!!
    And then there was that tricky loan signing he’s just one man, which is why it’s taken the poor lad 6 weeks to get nowhere with gomis!
    Oh and on ayew, yeah know nout about him tbh other than his younger brother plays for OM as well, maybe there the French ameobi’s?

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  • Billythefish

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #8

    Kinnear admitted: “I sanctioned the one-year loan deal for Loic Remy, and if it goes pear-shaped I will take responsibility for it.

    “But if he scores goals and does well for us, Alan will be happy with our end of the deal; the player will be happy because he will come into contention for a World Cup place with France; and if both those things happen, Remy will go back to QPR as a World Cup player with a higher value than when he joined them, so everyone’s a winner.
    What a muppet, if that’s the case we haven’t even got the option to buy on the loan deal. We have no intention of keeping him.
    We the fans are being mugged off by these morons. Why o why won’t someone buy Ashley out who has ambition and commitment?

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #9

    Slaty,

    I agree, through all the rubbish he has had, everything over the past two years, he should walk now. How on earth he is putting up with these lunitics upstairs is beyond me now.

    Im well aware it’s probably his income that is keeping him here and his pride but there is only so much any man can take.

    He should walk.

    Not because he is a terrible coach, he is mediocre, and I don’t mind saying this either, he is far too professional to be working for NUFC right now under these people.

    That’s right people, he is too good for NUFC right now under this regime.

    He has been embarassed, lied to, undermined, hung out to dry. He has never once been backed sufficiently in his time here. How he has managed to keep so dignified through this past couple of years is completely beyond me.

    Every manager out there is far too good for NUFC right now. No one worth his salt will work under this regime.

    Walk Alan. Do yourself a good favour and remove yourself from the sheer disgrace of the running of this football club.

    Wherever you go will be alot better off.

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  • ronjohno

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #10

    Get his brother Jordan as well

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  • Slatymag

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #11

    @toonprodigy

    Well said mate. AP deserves better. I think he is at least a nice enough fella with some moral fibre. Cut loose Alan, put it behind you.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #12

    Billy
    Whoa he actually said that! What an idiot, so he’s sanctioned a £2 mil loan fee and we don’t even have a clause to make the move permanent!
    Ffs

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  • musomag

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #13

    Here we go again, more BS

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  • jokinoot

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #14

    Give the poor bloke a chance he’s only been here 2 months what a bloody joke 10.59 on the 2nd they will say sorry we did try jokineer

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  • Slatymag

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #15

    The BS is never ending, mate.

    Ashley MUST be wondering how far he can push us, he MUST be!!

    This CAN NOT continue.

    Apologies for the caps.

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  • Billythefish

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #16

    That’s his exact words in an interview, the bloke is a total bell end. Half a dozen more games like the first 2 and I expect Kinear to take over the reigns. We are in for a long hard season. Unless Ashley and co do something out of the ordinary in the next seven days. I won’t hold my breath.

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  • Sazzer

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #17

    Worst part of the interview is the early meeting agreeing that squad is good enough.

    Hopefully they scouted Valbuena as Cabs replacement.

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  • lesh

    Aug 26, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #18

    Let’s hope he has a little more success in France than he had in Belgiun!

    Did he actually go to Belgium? Has he really been to France this weekend?

    Sounds good though, makes him.look as though he’s trying to sign a player or two. What a little joker Hoes is, here’s me nearly believing he was trying to di something constructive!

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  • RonVanDam

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Comment #19

    I wonder if we have players we are monitoring in a database or does JK carry a handbook like AP with all the targets listed in them?

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  • RonVanDam

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #20

    We should scout the Belgium, Dutch, Spanish and Argentine markets. They have fair better players in terms of quality than France. French players and like yo-yo’s, one week they’ll play well and the next they will be shite.

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  • HAZZY1

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #21

    Just thought id let u know what ive been hearing Cabs is gone to PSG for 18M and we are in talks with OM for
    Nicolas N’Koulou, André Ayew, Jordan Ayew, not sure how much but the money for cabs and a few Million more id guess also Shola not sammy will be sold Pards likes sammy and will use him as impact sub only repeating what ive heard.

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  • RonVanDam

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Comment #22

    HAZZY1

    As long as Cabaye doesnt get sold to another PL rival then im happy.

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  • HAZZY1

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #23

    Also I doubt MA would shell out 2M on a loan deal with no option to buy at the end even he isnt that stupid we will have first chance on remy if he wants to stay and we want him as for my post before I hope they r right Jordan is only 21 and a very creative young raw talent his big bro 23 Andre is class pace skill and his heading ability is scary for someone so small Nicolas N’Koulou has been hot and cold so far this season but can be a suberb CB much like Mbiwa and he is also still young as well 23 so they would have plenty of time to adapt to the english game.

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  • HAZZY1

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:27 AM

    Comment #24

    RonVanDam From what im hearing the gooners wont increase there offer of 12M so I doubt MA would sell for that when PSG want him and he wants to go like I said I hope the news im hearing is right 3 in 1 out with Shola pos about to leave also.

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  • HAZZY1

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #25

    Also I forgot we r lining up a bid for Goran Cvijanovi? from Maribor as a replacement for Cabs ment to cost about 2-4M cheap but he is very talented and is 26 with plenty of experience im not sure if this is true because this came from a different person but im sure we have been linked with him in the past.

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  • jimmysmith

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    Comment #26

    It is bizarre that even if we do get the bodies in we need, which is now looking increasingly unlikely, we’ll end up paying around the same price anyway, for guys that weren’t our first choices and then only have them available four or five games into the season, meaning ten games in before they likely start to make a significant and consistent impact, if at all. Where’s the logic and forethought in all this, if it really is down to not wanting to pay that little bit extra to get the deals done early.

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  • gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb)

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #27

    You know this “we have excellent scouting and know the French league incredibly well”….

    Could it be that we are just incredibly 1 dimensional and know a few of the top teams from one (the closest) league in Europe?

    All our rumoured targets have been from just a few teams!!! It’s starting to look pathetic!!

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #28

    I am still in shock as to how stupid that joke of a man Kinnear is!! That bit he said about Remy going back to QPR a World Class player and everyones a winner!- What a clueless moron! Well done Joe I bet you’re very proud of yourself. No Remy go score bucket loads and then we can’t sign him permanently because everyone will want him by then and we don’t even have that bloody option! Unbelievable.

    And to think I gave them the benefit of the doubt because of Remy’s pending rape charge and all tut tut tut just when it couldn’t get worse.

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  • spitfire_

    Aug 26, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #29

    A heart attacks for MA, JFK and AP on table 20.

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  • thai-mag

    Aug 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM

    Comment #30

    I said last week after the Man city game, we don’t know how good they are till they play again, now we know it was us being so bad that made them look like world beaters, we have had 1 shot on target in 2 games, it would be pretty hard to get worse than that, I think 2 more defeats this week will see Pardew gone

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  • gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb)

    Aug 26, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    Comment #31

    @thai – remember that Man city were at home and it was the first game of the season so probably not a completely fair comparison.

    However, we’re definitely the worst team I’ve watched so far this season.

    No surprise, we haven’t even tried to make the team better.

    We’ve signed one player from a relegated sign on loan who could potentially be convicted of rape making him useless.

    The club isn’t even trying any more, that’s the worst bit.

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  • Bambams

    Aug 26, 2013 at 5:50 AM

    Comment #32

    i still doubt we will sign anyone, we will definately not sign anyone unless Cabs is sold.

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  • gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb)

    Aug 26, 2013 at 6:00 AM

    Comment #33

    @bambams – same, but I’m not even sure we will even if cabaye is sold which better be for ATLEAST £20m.

    Both PSG and Arsenal have mountains of money so we really need to push the price to 25m really,

    We don’t desperately need the money, or atleast we shouldn’t(!), so why sell unless it’s a huge offer? We’re not exactly great at replacing players (Ba, Carroll, Barton, Nolan, even Shane Ferguson when he went on loan we lost our back up LB!) so if there’s no certainty it will even be used to replace him then we should simply ask for unrealistic amounts.

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  • Greebol1892

    Aug 26, 2013 at 6:24 AM

    Comment #34

    Billythefish @16 – spot-on.

    We will not spend more than 5m on a player this window. Ashley is waiting for January bargains, at which time JK will be manager.

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  • theartfuldodger

    Aug 26, 2013 at 6:57 AM

    Comment #35

    Let them speak all the crap they want. Within the next 10 games they will be proved wrong when we are nowehere close to top 10.

    Ashley sees it as – Wage bill in top 10 teams, hence finish in top 10.

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  • SeanNufc87

    Aug 26, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Comment #36

    Players are typically more expensive in January’s window actually, probably due to people rushing to fix a season… cant think of any teams like that…

    Ayew (both) yes please. Great talent and potential.

    There is literally no positivity left on this blog is there? Sad times

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  • theartfuldodger

    Aug 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #37

    SeanNufc, heres some positivity

    Last season Pardew gave the excuse of Europa League. Ashley and Llambias cudnt judge type of football,performance etc. Hence they dint fire pardew.
    This year will be different.
    Joe has come in to view performances as well. He knows some football atleast.

    I do think that if we are nowhere near top 10 in the next 8 games (max till nov dec) pardew will be sent packing.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #38

    Sean
    Nope any remaining positivity was well on its way out of me after the west ham game and then the last remaining bit went running out the door screaming after reading the full uncomfortable kinnear interview
    Turns out he wasn’t in Nice withPards Carr n Charney to talk to other clubs/players/agents etc.
    Nope they went for an “intense meeting” in St.Tropez an Mike Cashleys yacht….

    “We are working together – not plotting against each other,” says Newcastle’s controversial director of football

    Joe Kinnear took Newcastle manager Alan Pardew to meet owner Mike Ashley in topless resort St Tropez and assured him: “I’ve got your back covered.”

    Director of football Kinnear has been dismayed by the “negativity” which has engulfed the Toon’s difficult start to the season.

    And he flew home from a scouting mission in Europe last night to learn stewards had removed a banner proclaiming him as “clown of the comedy club” at the goalless impasse with West Ham at St James’ Park on Saturday.

    But Kinnear, 66, refuses to become the fall-guy for Newcastle’s problems, which were accelerated by Arsenal’s £10million bid for midfielder Yohan Cabaye on the eve of a heavy opening defeat at Manchester City.

    In a frank, no-holds-barred interview with Mirror Sport, Kinnear insisted: “I don’t understand where the negativity has come from – we are two games into a 38-game season and already the doom-and-gloom merchants are looking for a scapegoat.

    “Alan Pardew has signed 16 players costing £60m in the last two years, Newcastle United’s wage bill is now comfortably in the top 10 in the country, and he will continue to get all the support the club can reasonably provide.

    “Last week we flew to Nice, and we were met by a private helicopter transfer to Mike Ashley’s yacht off St Tropez, and we spent seven hours thrashing out every idea, and how we plan to take the club forward.

    “I listened to every word Alan and the owner had to say – along with chief scout Graham Carr, who was also there – and we talked about the next stage for Newcastle United and where we wanted to go.

    “Before the season started, we had sat down and agreed the squad was big enough, and strong enough, to finish in the top half of the table. But we are working together – not plotting against each other.

    “There seems to be a perception, from outside the club, that we are at loggerheads, but I don’t know why people are jumping on the bandwagon because it is a false picture.”

    The only time Kinnear has acted alone, in terms of player recruitment, was to seal the season-long loan deal which brought France striker Loic Remy to Tyneside earlier this month.

    And he did so in the knowledge that QPR had pipped Pardew in the £8m race for Remy last January.

    Kinnear admitted: “I sanctioned the one-year loan deal for Loic Remy, and if it goes pear-shaped I will take responsibility for it.

    “But if he scores goals and does well for us, Alan will be happy with our end of the deal; the player will be happy because he will come into contention for a World Cup place with France; and if both those things happen, Remy will go back to QPR as a World Cup player with a higher value than when he joined them, so everyone will come out of it well.”

    Kinnear’s return in June to ­the Newcastle, where his brief stint as manager was curtailed by a heart problem in 2009, was slammed as a backward step by supporters.

    His second coming was immediately laid open to ridicule when he gave a car-crash radio interview in which he pronounced the names of players wrongly and even referred to former managing director Derek Llambias as “Derek Lambisi.”

    He conceded: “That gave people a stick to beat me with, but my ­intentions for the club are impeccable and we are working incredibly hard – together – to try and deliver good results on the pitch.”

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 26, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    Comment #39

    If we did have an agreement to sign him permanently it would be only with QPR at this stage anyway. If he has a good season and does well at the World Cup then there was little chance of him joining us permanently anyway. Doesn’t really make too much difference, other than he may flop and we then get him cheaper, or he does well and we don’t get him – as would have been the case if we had an agreed price anyway in all likelihood.

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 26, 2013 at 7:18 AM

    Comment #40

    toonarmydownsouth

    its all a big joke

    even if the squad is/was big enough, it is not being used in the right way

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