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Cabaye’s Poor Attitude Could Cost Him His Arsenal Move

12:22 pm, Wednesday, August 28th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 202 Comments

We’re not exactly sure what Newcastle have done to deserve the treatment Yohan Cabaye is dishing out to the famous Tyneside club, by refusing to play for us, because remember Newcastle gave him his big chance in the Premier League, and made him into a French International regular and a much better player.

ian wright

A suave looking Ian Wright - questions Cabaye’s attitude

And that negative attitude from the 27 year-old has been noticed by former Arsenal striker Ian Wright.

Arsenal have bid around £11M for the French International and Newcastle are waiting for a second potential bid from the London club, but Wright isn’t sure he’s the right player for Arsenal, or that he has the right attitude for the Gunners.

This is what Ian said on ITV last night before Arsenal’s easy 2-0 win over Fenerbahce in the Champions League qualifying game which they won 5-0 on aggregate:

“He seems very similar to what we’ve got and he’s obviously a quality player.” “I’m just a bit worried about the fact that he’s refused to play for Newcastle.”

“That doesn’t make me feel good. If he refuses to play then he’ll refuse to play again if it doesn’t suit him, and I don’t think you really want players like that around the squad,”

“I think he should be professional like Wayne Rooney has been, play his game and make a club like Arsenal say ‘yeah, that’s the type of player we want.”

It hasn’t helped Yohan at all, that Wayne Rooney showed professionalism and sheer class on Monday night, when he started for the Red Devils against Chelsea and had a great game, and showed 100% commitment and effort to his team – Wayne gained a lot of friends with that display under difficult circumstances..

And the Englishman didn’t refuse to play because Chelsea were after him – but he earned the big money Manchester United are paying him – and that was the right thing to do.

Maybe that’s what Yohan Cabaye should do at Newcastle, because he’s winning no friends with the stand he’s taken on Tyneside – in fact he’s creating enemies and could be damaging his chances of getting the move to Arsenal that he wants.

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Tags: Other News · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target · Yohan Cabaye





202 responses so far ↓

  • 1 wolfshead@toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    of course ba would come back he doesnt suit royal blue black and white stripes are his colours :-)

  • 2 Jail for Ashley // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Being forced to clean Joe Kinnerys bum when he retires to a gerriatric home next year is too good for Ashley.

  • 3 G // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    If he is refusing to play, and to be fair, the only people posting that story are from outside of the club, so I’m not sure if they are just reading between the lines from the implications, then we should get rid, however, we should get rid on our terms, not the terms being laid out by the press. Demand big bucks, and if he doesn’t go, he gets to play with the reserves until he appologises to club, fans and team.

  • 4 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Laurent Robert

    Marveaux was easily the worst player on the pitch against West Ham, he made a 1-2 as you say, but that was his sum total, he never made another decent pass and for someone who has a bit of pace which he has I have never seen him try to take his man on, he is hopeless and offers us nothing at all and he never has since he joined, that’s why he doesn’t get his place in the side, as bad as Jonas is at least he works hard and tries to help the defence which allows Santon to move forward which gives us some attacking outlet, with Marveaux we have nothing because he gives nothing, as bad as Sammy is, at least when he came on he ran at the West Ham defence and gave them something to think about, Marveaux is atrocious, and has been since he joined

  • 5 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth

    I would take Ba back in a heartbeat, but definitely not on loan though. It would upset what we already have because the manager is soft and doesn’t have a clue….Sign Gomis on a perm deal and Ba on a perm deal as Chelsea will take less than £7 I think worth penny pinching with them.

  • 6 hdavid23 // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    We should handle Cabaye similarly to how Liverpool handled Suarez. Make him train alone and ban him from the team until he makes a public apology to the club.

  • 7 SharpEnough23 // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    G – totally agree, if he stays I think an apology is due

  • 8 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Marveaux unfortunately plays for about 5-10mins a game and that’s even when he starts, he just goes missing far too often. We have over hyped this lad unfortunately

  • 9 nufc_eire // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    If we are going for a Chelsea striker on loan, why not go for Lukaku instead! He needs to play to keep his place in the Belgian starting 11 with Benteke playing so well. And with chelsea looking for another striker + mourinho wanting a 22 man squad, he should be available.

    Also moses should be available for a decent fee as well. Double swoop!!

  • 10 G // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    @9, I would go for Lakaku in a heartbeat, but I’m fairly certain that Jose has given him assurances that he will get plenty of first team this season. Not so sure the same has been said to Ba like. If it came down to one or the other, Lakaku for deffo. Don’t think Chelsea are gonna let him leave tho.

  • 11 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Our Toon

    I totally agree m8, how some can accuse Pardew of mis-management because he doesn’t get picked or critise Pardew for taking him off when for the best part of the match he has been a spectator is a mystery, some fans want to open their eyes and look at what the players are actually doing whilst they are on the pitch before they accuse Pardew of mis-management, talk about blinkered.

  • 12 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Make sure no one confuses Ian Toon with the “excellent Iain Dowie” because there’s no way that they are the same person…

  • 13 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    hdavid23

    totally agree…providing the stories are true that is.

    Don’t care who it is, nobody is bigger than the club and anyone can be forgotten if they don’t act properly…the club will never be forgotten.

  • 14 WWSBRD // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Ian wrights not keen on him? Am sure cabs is heart broken

  • 15 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Hello lads and lasses,

    How are we all? Demba Ba coming back? Really good player, got us goals, but the whole idea does leave me uneasy….all comes down to why and how he ACTUALLY left, not what was speculated on at the time.

    We’ll see.

    On the Marv discussion, I do agree that over the whole game he does disappear an awful lot, which makes me reluctant to think he deserves a starting spot…however, you can’t take away the contribution he has made as far as assists go.

    Tough balancing act imo, but that’s what managers are paid for.

  • 16 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Laurent Robert- I now understand. It was
    because I said that I had to keep checking
    to see that Marveaux was actually playing.
    We all have our personal favourite players
    but I assess on the game their playing.
    Marveaux was our poorest player, the game
    passed him by, in my humble opinion.
    Although Shola pushed him hard.

  • 17 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    hdavid23

    I would also agree, and bearing in mind that its a world cup year he would have to apologise very quickly and when he does get back he would have to perform rather than sulk or like myself he will be watching the world cup on telly rather than playing in it as he will be hopeful of.

  • 18 JAMSHA // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    ba an gomis….??? we need some pacy young striker as well both are same type n.slow

  • 19 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Ian Toon

    I totally agree, Marveaux is regularly our poorest player, at the end of the day he is just a poor player.

  • 20 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Ibiza- how are you? Hope you are having a great summer.
    Did I read that you learnt to drive in the US?

  • 21 wolfshead@toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    i wouldnt be too hard on cabs for all we know he might be taking the show some ambition stance same as the fans

  • 22 check the toastie // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    If one thing is going to make Big Mike either one spend some money or two shake up the coaching staff, it is lack of seats on bums.

    Tickets sales for Fulham are going Shite, think we could see 45k there. Absolute dog shit for the 2nd home game of the season, and it serves the Fat twat right for not replacing Percy the Prick months ago.

    PARDEW OUT

  • 23 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Spoof- I am not saying he is poor. He strikes me as being the sort
    that needs tlc from the coach.

  • 24 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Ian…Hello, it’s been a while. All good over here, hope all is with you too.

    I did learn to drive in the US, California to be exact. Bit of useless and odd info for you, in California (at least at the time), you could take an automatic vehicle test and then legally drive a manual after that…even back in the UK. Go figure :)

  • 25 Girth // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Ed,
    I have it on good authority that Cabaye isn’t on strike, he’s quite simply being kept back by the club ie Pardew. He’s a commodity that’s being protected before potentially being sold.

    Dont’t believe everything you read or base your opinions on a blog

  • 26 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Ibiza

    I don’t believe that it is a tough call, he is now in his 3rd season with a total of 1 goal and 6 assist’s, that’s why he is a reserve.

  • 27 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Wolfshead

    Only problem being, we can’t transfer our support to Arsenal or PSG….or can we? ;)

  • 28 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Talking of protests…anyone know how the Dortmund fans twitter campaign went last night?

    Wolfshead…Very true. He could be making a point that to show more ambition they should pay him more ;)

  • 29 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Marveaux, 29 games in 3 seasons, most as a sub and he scores 1 goal and 6 assists.

    Jonas plays 176 games, most as a starter, as has 10 goals and I don’t have his assist tally but it’s not much.

    I’d rather go for Marveaux.

  • 30 brian kilclines pony tail // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    without a run of games i dont think any of you can judge marv.
    he has never been given a chance by pardew.
    You are all aware of this.
    47 appearances in 3 years! how can any fan can expect any player to find form after a lay off with that number of appearances is beyond me.

  • 31 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Spoof…Ha, well that clears things up and makes it a little easier :)

    I question his attitude tbh. He says a lot about how he’s fit and ready, but far to often he just doesn’t seem interested.

    Maybe it’s a case of him feeling like the poor relation, but maybe he is just arrogant and lazy.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a proper run of games. Don’t get me wrong, he did actually get a fair few appearances last season, even though it didn’t actually seem that way. We afforded Obertan the opportunity, we should do the same for Sylvian too before writing him off imo.

    As I said, it may seem straight forward that he’s not a starter, but at the end of the day, as far as goal scoring / creating impact, he was one of our best statistically at least.

    0 goals in 2 games so far. Couldn’t hurt to give it a go, but not just a game here and there.

  • 32 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Ian Toon

    last season he made 37 appearances with 1 goal and 6 assists, yes some appearances were from the bench but that is poor, exceptionally poor, the lad has a bit of pace but as yet I have never seen him take a man on, he rely’s too heavily on the killer pass which is proven by his record not to be a killer at all, Sammy caused West Ham more problems in the brief time he was on than what Marveaux did, and that is really bad, but it’s like that everytime he is on the pitch.

  • 33 luke.r // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    anyone know the webste for the fantasy league? ive not been on it since ive made my team lol

  • 34 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Ruddy & Brian…..Which is it, 29 or 47?

  • 35 FrankfurtMag // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    The fact that Pardew applauded the handling of Suarez and other cases, then does the total opposite with his own players shows the guy for what he is.

    A complete ****!

  • 36 Rooster // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    I have on the whole supported MA for years, but certain things get very tiresome, the constant contradictions from his manager!1 the daft rants from his DOF!!! his decisions concerning certain happenings at NUFC that almost always get the fans backs up, nothing seems straight forward its always complicated, then the tabloids start with the Toon in Turmoil stories and sets the ball rolling for yet more discontent, in HIS world he can make decisions about business that wont be bang in the public eye but at a Football Club every decision is brought to everyones attention straight away, plainly its the contradictions that are bugging myself and the vast majority of fans, ie we are the 20th richest club in the world, yet we cannot compete with Norwich and Southhampton in the transfer market, I just think its bizarre, I believe we can without doubt and its all covering their backs if we don’t sign players, it needs to stop, its getting on everyones t.ts big time, I think we may still make a few signings but earlier predictions of mine certainly of early captures just have been made a mockery off, yea its about the dal with MA, BUT CHALK AND BLACKBOARD COME TO MIND.

  • 37 naptoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Marveaux our worst player v west ham.
    At the match that day and can tell you now debuch amoebic and cisse wore far worse …. yes marv does go missing during games but so do the rest of our team most of which offer no where near the attacking threat he does … Check out his assists last season and for how much he played…
    The reason the boos came when he was brought off is because at the time he was growing into the game and starting to dictate … No one else was … Saying that dammit did well when he came on .

  • 38 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Frankfurt…Does that not indicate that maybe the handling of Cabaye isn’t Pardews call then?

    Shows him up for being a puppet, but can we blame a man for something he isn’t really in control of?

  • 39 brian kilclines pony tail // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    47 all comps, 29 prem

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvain_Marveaux

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    the problem for marv is he is a central midfielder (by his own admission) who we play on the left.

    When recovering from long term lay offs and starting in a new league, with a struggling team then surely the last thing you need is to be out of position and only getting the odd few minutes here and there.

    give him 5 games in the hole and see what he does.

  • 41 naptoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Sammy … Damn auto correct

  • 42 Rooster // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Meant, Nails getting dragged down a blackboard more like!!!!

  • 43 Quasimodo's tailor // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    @check the toastie…..”lack of seats on bums”. Contortionists now eh?

  • 44 naptoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    aye marv is much better suited in the middle of the park… He’s not a winger

  • 45 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    brian…Thanks, I like it when everyone can be right :)

    TS…Are we back to the issue that we really don’t have many, if any, natural wingers at the club?

  • 46 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Good heavens… Marveaux needs movement, runners around him and that is nowhere near hapoening here under dire tactical and coaching conditions. He has got massively under-utilised skills. He should be there to play the final ball, and have the players around him to understamd when and where to run and why they need to do that.

    I’m not saying he is the best thing since sliced bread, but if you put him in a side which actually bases their gameplay on passing and intricste movement, I’m sure he will play a lot better.

    The individuals aren’t given much of a chance when there’s no well-drilled and creative teamplay. The system is the major flaw, not most of the players in it.

  • 47 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Ruddy

    I can see your argument but when Jonas plays rather than Marveaux it allows Santon more freedom to move forward, granted I believe that Santon over does this but at least with Jonas giving Santon the opportunity it gives us an option, and Santon got 1 goal and 4 assists last season which is almost as many as Marveaux, Marveaux gives us nothing, at least Jonas allows Santon to give us something, not that I want Jonas in the side mind, I’m just trying to put into perspective just how bad Marveaux is

  • 48 brian kilclines pony tail // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    most fans i know have been crying out for trying both marv and hatem as attacking midfielders/support strikers with cisse up top for a long time now. then with 3 central midfielders from cabs, sissoko, tiote, aniti.

    think england euro 96.

    we have a chance to do the same again with hatem and remy…..but we wont.

  • 49 JK // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    I spoke to wrighty last night after the cgame, great chap and hes right, Mr Wenga isnt too impressed at his protest.

    Should be meeting up soon at Wynyard golf club soon.

    Ba talk is rubbish. Journos making it up.

  • 50 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Laurent

    Pardew can only put him in the side which he has, and as we all know we have a poor side without any strength, creativity or pace, its up to the players we have to do their best and sadly Marveaux offers less than most so Pardew quite rightly won’t pick him.

  • 51 Slank // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Whilst Ian Wright doesn’t represent or speak for Arsenal he does however echo the thoughts of the north London club.

    If Cabaye wants to play for the French national side and be at the World Cup he needs to start playing regularly pretty quick, and that is not a given with Arsenal.

  • 52 lesh // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Quasimodo’s tailor // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    @check the toastie…..”lack of seats on bums”. Contortionists now eh?

    It all depends how you look at it!

  • 53 naptoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Marveaux master class tonight … If he plays ????

  • 54 Robin // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Sunderland is signing De Ceglie, the ambition lol

  • 55 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Spoof, it should begin by not playing a £10m proven goalscorer on the wing for half a season and also give him next to no service at all. The service is disgraceful and Pardew is quite happy for an act of brilliance or good fortune to get him out of the crap. Sammy’s hopeless cross nearly provided what Pardew is used to.

    The coaching is appalling. In the final third those players don’t know what on earth they are doing. That is simply understanding and coaching.

  • 56 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Marvaoux is shocking at times and goes missing, but if he wants to play centrally he certainly needs to change his attitude….I like parts of his game but sometimes it looks as if he just doesn’t care. Think he has a laid back attitude (Like Berbatov) and we can’t afford to have that in the middle of the pitch. Although Jonas doesn’t offer a great deal going forward the one thing he does offer in abundance is work rate, he stopped more attacks last season than what our defence managed, but I think it’s Pardew who is telling Jonas to be more defensive so he can cover for Santon. Don’t want 2 full backs bombing forward without cover

  • 57 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Ibiza- Why I mentioned it, I spent a fair bit of time this summer ( June mainly) on east coast in New York on UK license. It was a working /holiday. Operated out of Richmond, Virgina which is
    around 280 miles from NY. About as far as London to Newcastle
    but a simpler journey.
    Catch you later- cant go tonight but got my ticket earlier
    for the Villa game. I was in Sardinia- seemed a more attractive
    propersition than Ibiza-for the Man City game
    but Ed kindly sent me a report on the game. Got back
    on Friday for the West Ham game. We were not as bad
    as many on here suggest. Onwards and upwards.

    Spoof- he can play an awful lot better- I haven’t written
    him off .

  • 58 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Less than most, Spoof? The lad hardly got much game time and still got 4 assists. Jonas fot Zero. That means via that route Cisse hypothetically got 4 less goals than Marveaux created. Baby sitting for Santon is a rubbish way to lool at it. Bez hardly babysat for Ginola, nor Bernard for Robert. Both fullbacks would bomb forward whenever possible.

    It is lack of organisation, covering and lack of effective offence in general play why Santon is getting caught out so often.

  • 59 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Laurent

    in fairness m8 that’s deviating to a different subject, there are aspects of Pardew’s management which puzzle me, but the subject matter which is Marveaux doesn’t puzzle me, he doesn’t perform so he doesn’t play, to me that’s fair.

    As for the rest of your thread I would rather not go over the same old Pardew arguments, especially as I who have usually defended him are now beginning to turn against him, but I will not criticise for the sake of it, and with Marveaux I believe he has got it spot on.

  • 60 Yohan Kebab // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    marveaux could be our mata, the link between midfield and attack

  • 61 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Laurent

    in which games has Marveaux proven his worth.

  • 62 Rotonda heights // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    I honestly think pardew may be a bit intellectually challenged. He said sameobi got a poor reception not realising fans were booing Marv coming off!

    The thing is with a couple of players coming in I get excited if it were to happen, Ba especially, but Pardew is not going to be come a good manager overnight.

  • 63 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Ian…Sounds like a fun filled summer. Haven’t spent much time on the East coast, especially not in a while. Hope you enjoyed it. Driving in the States is generally a lot easier, nice big roads.

    I don’t think we’ve been playing well so far, but there have been signs, albeit small ones, of intent to try and pass the ball a bit more.

    Have to say, I am really disillusioned right now with the toon, I hope they can turn that around soon…I need to see some fight and belief from them…as frankly, they’ve nearly sucked all the fight and belief out of me.

  • 64 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Yohan Kebab

    I think he is our Mata, both of them are now reserves lol

  • 65 Rotonda heights // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    not booing marv but the decision to take him off.

  • 66 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    gmorning all…

    ba? gomis?

    ill believe it when i see it… NUFC leads the prem in hoofballs, and rumors… unfortunately, we are last in signings and goals, much more important stats…

    no showing at all for the cup match stateside… now ill have to talk to the wife, im f*****d…

  • 67 Klatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Is Vuckic still at the club? This might be his last chance to impress, gotta feeling AP delayed his loan in anticipation of this game.

  • 68 Rotonda heights // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    some of the match winners Marv set up for Cisse were breathtaking plus the ball for ba v arsenal was out of this world. ability wasted by you know who.

  • 69 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Dok…Can you not stream it?

    Can’t be having you talking to the missus, the horror :)

  • 70 martoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Rooster – I am of a similar opinion. The thing I don’t understand is people like Ashley are very astute judges of character and normally surround themselves with capable people – I’m sure SD must have them. So why does he employ idiots like JFK and to a lesser degree Pardew and even Llambias?

  • 71 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Rotonda

    the thing is when Sammy did replace Marv we had a lot more threat, so Pardew was right, without a calamitous miss by Gouffran the sub would have had an assist.

  • 72 Mark29Hungary // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    That’s right Mr. Wright!

    The player who refused to play once will refuse again.

  • 73 Rotonda heights // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    would have been the jammiest assist ever and plus the linesman had his flag up.

  • 74 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    got a link for me ibiza?

    i know the horror, listening to inane chatter about house renovation, budget, and knitting… (pukes in mouth)

    during the offseason, she asked me if i was having an affair, i looked her dead in the eye and said, ” how can i be having an affair, i cant afford you”… she looked at me and stated, “yeah thats true, sorry for asking’…

  • 75 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Actual games, Spoof, I can’t remember, simply because I’d have to go back through them, but he’s certainly had match winning setups to Cisse. Goals which if you take them away, would have seen us relegated.

    As I said, change the system and philosophy with a good manager and Marveaux would make a marked improvement. Longest balls all last year, the lad is like 5ft 6″ or something. That style of play isn’t helping him for starters, never mind the inability to pass and make efficient and well planned runs.

    It is awful.

  • 76 nufc_eire // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Im surprised Pardew doesnt play 5-3-2. It seems to be the formation he wants his players to play to. He wants the full backs to give width (and they need more protection because they are not the strongest defenders), one holding mid, one “quarterback” mid, one attacking mid and two strikers

    ————————–Krul—————————–
    ———S.Taylor—–Colo——-MYM————–
    –Debuchy——————————–Santon—-
    —————–Cabaye—-Sissoko——————
    ———————–Ben Arfa————————-
    —————–Cisse——-Remy———————-

    Subs: Elliot, Haidara, Williamson, Anita, Tiote, Marveaux, Gouffran

  • 77 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I am not an Ashley fan and Kinnear is simply an
    embarrassment. I have a working colleague who
    is a Spurs fan and he continually compares us with
    the smooth operators they have. I have to harp
    back to KK and 6-2 hammerings we dished out.
    Pardew is not great and I would swap him for
    Holloway who is more tactfully astute. For me
    it is a question of support the team not the regime.
    I would not boycott games not just for economic
    reasons but because I can see myself in time
    not being able to watch our games. Not that
    I am planning time spent in Lilongwe.
    I have noticed that you did not post for a while.
    I always look for your posts to lift my spirits during
    the day.
    Best regards.

  • 78 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Spoof, that is an appalling assist to claim. More Pardew style goals where he is hoping of good fortune or magic by our international players, rather than regular chance creation with Cisse’s job to finish them off.

    If Pardew fills the side with players who can’t score, like at the Liverpool game where he said we needed goals, how are we supposed to score? He’s just made things massively harder. And then we go and lose 6 nil.

  • 79 Ibizatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Rotonda…If it had worked we could have coined the expression “sammiest”…yet another disappointment to add to the ever growing list.

    Dok…They’re not showing yet, but check the following link later, i’m sure there will be one, just like i’m sure JK will get us a signing before the window closes.

    Bet that fills you with confidence ;)

    http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

    Knitting? I think your wife needs to get out of Texas mate.

    I need to ask, why did your wife think you were having an affair? What have you been up to Senor Dok? :)

  • 80 hazzy // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    To be honest Marv is no winger which I’m sure he has said himself.
    Sammy most definately is and to be fair to them both they were 1st and second top assisters for us last season
    Marv with 5 and Sammy got 3 joint with Obertan and Hatem.
    If I’m honest I would rather start Marv, Obertan or just about any young prospect we have over Jonas he offers nothing…. As seen with his wonderful contribution of 0 assists last season and 1 goal. People slate Obertan but he played about a 5th of the games that Jonas does and creates infinitely more

  • 81 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    The fact of the matter is that Marveaux offers much more than Jonas. If Marveaux being on the pitch leaves Santon exposed at LB then Santon should not be at LB. Simple!

    We can’t say that Jonas should play because he covers Santon, if you’re an AM or LW, you should be played on what you bring to the team offensively, not what you allow your LB to provide.

  • 82 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    76 was for – Ibizatoon- Back by popular demand.

  • 83 aidytoon9 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    If cabaye has refused to play he needs to be fined and if I were manager he wouldn’t play for me again.

    I would also take deem a back as who could blame him for going to Chelsea?

    Marv if given a regular game eg ten starting games then people will be changing there tune on here.

    Whatever happens in this window we are still being run by a man who is just interested in lining his pockets.

  • 84 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Ian

    Will you shut up for crying out loud., your pathetic pandering makes you come off as a snivelling buffoon. Also, what is up with the weird way you layout your comments?

  • 85 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Look at the QPR game, Bosingwa’s two goal gifts to us gave us points we didn’t deserve to get. Even the Rangers game which I had to stamd through and endure a mistake by their Scottish league 2 players right at the end.

    There is no passing, moving, overlapping and doing it to get into their box. That was my Marveaux reference earlier. A simple give and go, which can beat anyone should it be performed correctly. If you analyse the top teams, they possess those pre-planned moves around the edge of the box. Something whih can be practiced and practiced in training. Yet we look clueless.

    Lack of bodies in the box is never a good way to go about trying to get goals. Nice one Pardew. NOT.

  • 86 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Laurent

    what appalling assist have I actually claimed, and how has the Liverpool and Pardew tactics been brought into this, you’ve totally lost me m8, before we go any further what you have got to accept is that I am not defending Pardew or his tactics and I have to wish to start doing so, what I am doing is criticising Marveaux, nothing more than that and nothing less than that, so please lets not go off on tangents to justify your view.

  • 87 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Laurent

    as for the 1-2 against West Ham, yes that was good, but there was nothing else, if Marveaux could regularly play that type of football without having the mis-fortune to slip as he did then yes, he would also be my first choice as well, but he doesn’t do it enough, a single 1-2 in a game is not enough m8.

  • 88 numba9 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Lol as if this blog has mike Ashley adverts on it …. The cancer is spreading . The only window he is interested in is the one he is licking the fat useless cretin

  • 89 aidytoon9 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    It’s easy to compare jonas and marv, one player has a football brain and can pass and cross a ball and the other one doesn’t.

  • 90 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    so as a member of this esteemed blog, i will go out on a limb and set a lineup for us:

    (i say this tongue in cheek, and in a spirit of humor/idiocy)

    striker/attacker – ruddy (enjoys a spirited chat)
    wings – rotunda, beattie (sets up the tone for the day)
    midfielder – ibiza (holds everyone together)
    defense – JfA (need i say more )
    keeper – ed (well,its his blog)

    bench, me, (i just like to watch and occasionally contribute, im the shola, once a year i have somehting worthwhile)

    manager – ?

  • 91 martoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    DokToon – the match over here is live on Sky Sports so it may well be shown over there but failing that there will be loads of links normally available about an hour before kick off – I find http://www.wiziwig.tv particularly good..
    Incidentally you should tell your wife that your one true love is NUFC :)

  • 92 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    I meant the assist for sammy had Gouffran not missed. Embarrassing assist.

    You’re welcome to your view on Marveaux, I just feel his skill set is being massively wasted in this team by Pardew’s awful management and coaching isn’t doing Sylvain or the rest of the players much good whatsoever.

  • 93 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    aidytoon

    if that’s the case then why can niether score nor create a goal, they are as bad as each other, and as far as crossing is concerned how many goals have we ever scored from a Marveaux cross, tell you what, you won’t have to count too high to answer that.

  • 94 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Dok

    I like the thought of spearheading the attack ;) (there are a few people on here I wouldn’t mind spearheading…) haha

    How are things your end?

  • 95 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    both are ineffective and that is down to the manager lads

  • 96 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    With two signings things could look a whole lot better come the end of the window. TBH, i have not a clue how good or how bad Gomis is. I also feel we will go in for Tom Ince. The kid from Lille Thavin would be a better option but i don’t think the lad wants to come to the EPL or it could just be he doesn’t want to come to NUFC lol. It’s time for JK,MA and AP to get things sorted out.

  • 97 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Spoof

    How can you say Marveaux shouldn’t play due to his lack of crossing ability?

    Have you seen Jonas cross a ball?

  • 98 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Toon1978

    Thauvin has apparently refused to train for Lille because he wants a move to Marseilles. This is a kid who just signed for Lille in January, and has played no more than a handful of games for them as Lille let him go back to his old club on loan at the end of last season as a good will gesture for his development.

    Certainly wouldn’t want a brat like him around the club, no matter how talented he is, although he’s a rough diamond at best, really don’t know who he thinks he is.

  • 99 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Laurent@91

    Yes I was being a bit naughty, but in fairness it was a decent cross which is something that we have never had from Marveaux.

    I hope I get proved wrong and I accept that he would be better in the centre rather than the wing, but he has played in both positions and although he has not had a sustained run in the side which would help him I just do not feel that he has done enough when he has played to justify a sustained run in the side.

  • 100 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    martoon thank you, i cant have skysports here… not available in texas (of course), but we do have a “how to make your trailer park seems like a realhouse channel”

    god i hate this state…

    ruddy, exactly why i put you as an instigator, oops i mean striker lmao… alls well here, i guess, only 103 heat index yestereday, i wore a sweater…

  • 101 aidytoon9 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Spoof

    Marv needs regular football, his assist percentage is better than jonas and hasn’t played anywhere near the games jonas has.
    yes he needs to add a couple of goals to his game but that will come with regular games I feel.

  • 102 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Ruddy@96

    where did I say that, and yes I have seen Jonas cross a ball, or try to as the case is as he is worse than hopeless which is what I have always said, so what exactly is your point ?

  • 103 Yohan Kebab // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    i wish we would be inventive in the cups, try out 5 at the back. it could work wonders for us

  • 104 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Why is everybody throwing Jonas at me when I have never once said that Jonas is good ? very strange.

  • 105 nut meg // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    A little unfair on Marveaux I think.Last season was 37 appearances of which 16 was as a sub.2 goals & 6 assists.

  • 106 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Team i would like to see tonight, not to most people’s liking but i would like to see a few youngins in.

    __________________Elliot_________________

    Santon_______Mbiwa_____C.Good____Dummett

    _________________Bigirimana_________________

    Obertan___________________________Marveaux

    __________________Vuckic___________________

    ___________Ameobi_______Goufrann___________

  • 107 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Spoof

    Thought I read earlier that you preferred Jonas? If that’s not the case then I apologise.

  • 108 aidytoon9 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Hope people don’t get carried away if we beat morecombe tonight as in fairness we should smash 5 in against them with half a team.

  • 109 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous 97

    Yes, i understand he is going on like a complete brat. Bit Cabaye esque lol if the rumours are to be believed.. Like you say a rough diamond but i suppose we should keep an arms distance from these sort of players. Hmmmm i don’t know lol.

  • 110 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    spoof

    I think Remy will be on the left when fit so neither jonas or marv will be playing there…which is a good thing I believe.

    I agree, marv hasn’t do much to demand a starting place, sure he gets a few assists but he needs to do more when he isn’t assisting. I’d get him into the middle, especially if cabaye is off…be nice to have him infront of anita and sissoko.

    Worth a run of 5/6 games in the middle I feel, see if he can nail a starting spot down for good.

  • 111 SeanNufc87 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Cant watch the damn game tonight! Working in Scotland and celtic are playing so wont be on in the bars and im in the one hotel room that doesnt get Internet!

  • 112 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    I’m still not sold on the Cabaye rumours, I think he is being shown the door as much as he wants to walk through it and that he’s being saved to bump the price up.

    Think we need to get back to signing players who want to play for us, signing British and Irish players is one way of doing that as they understand what Newcastle United means to the fans. I’m not slating foreign players as we’ve had a few gems over the years, just think we could benefit from some home grown talent.

  • 113 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Like Robert Lee. One of the best players to ever grace the shirt ;)

  • 114 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Ruddy

    Apology accepted as I didn’t actually say that, but I would prefer that, as poor as Jonas is he does help the defence a bit more than Marveaux but what Jonas is still good at is getting free kicks and bearing in mind the lack of creativity free kicks could be our best option, for me Marveaux is lazy with limited talent, he has a bit of pace but I have never seen him take his man on and run at the defence, as poor as Sammy is he ran at West Ham and it did cause problems, but for me Marveaux doesn’t do anything, he has pace but won’t run, he is alledgedly a good passer but how often does he do it, he will not track back, mind in fairness to him I have never been a great beleaver that a creative player should tract back, but even so just on forward play I don’t see any benefit by playing him, I’d rathe Gosling or Vuckic be given a chance as they are much younger and have not had 50 or so chances in the side.

  • 115 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    ruddy,

    throw an american player in there for me, my son is 7 and hopes to be tyneside soon, so he says…

    if that happens, a few of you will get his shirt :)

  • 116 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Toon1978

    I’m sure you may have caught me gushing over Rob Lee when MacToon was on the blog telling me he was getting to meet him! Was so jealous.

    Don’t get me started again! What a passer of the ball he was. One of the reasons I’d be sad to see Cabaye go is down to the fact that I think he’s the finest passer of the ball we’ve had since Rob Lee.

  • 117 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    mornign 1978,

    in case i cant get the stream on the cup tie today, do me a favor and let me know goals? please :)

  • 118 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Toon1978

    Sacrilege !

  • 119 martoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    DokToon – I know you can’t get Skysports but I thought one of your sports channels might take it from skysports. According to NUFC.com it is on beIN Sport Play in the USA but I don’t know if you can get that in Texas.
    By the way can I apply for manager of your team – I’d love to tell Ruddy & Beattie they’re crap and have been dropped :)

  • 120 Rooster // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    So according to the chronicle, Cabaye could play tonite, what a fcukn shambles, f him off,

    Pardew has another go at the youngins, sayin shape up or your gettin shipped out, what about your darlings u play week in week out, appauling thing to say, a tossa of mega proportions is Pardew just please piss off.

  • 121 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Completely agree. I remember seeing him score from the half way line against Leicester i think but the goal was disallowed. Not sure why now. D.Beckham did the same thing and the whole world knew about it aha. Yeah, R.Lee is my favourite player to ever play for us in my time anyway. And that’s with the likes of Beardo, Shearer and A.Cole gracing the shirt. I went to see R.Lee at SJP in a charity match a few years ago, i remember saying to me father in law that he has still got it. What a player he was. I like seeing him being interviewed about NUFC, he always says “WE”. Black n white blood that man has ha.

  • 122 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Spoof

    Fair enough, I can understand why some people think Jonas should play, but I am a firm believer in having a defence that can take care of itself, which is why I would strongly suggest taking Santon out of LB because he is a liability in defence.

    With a more solid LB we don’t need to worry too much about wingers tracking back. I don’t think Marv is a winger, playing him in a CAM role where he can pick passes is what I’d much rather see. Gosling for me has no career at NUFC and Vuckic just needs to stay fit for a season before he can truly be in contention.

    As for Jonas, he should be nowhere near the team other than coming on in CDM for the last 10/15 mins to shore up a win, nothing more. He’s done, and is part of the reason why we have no creativity. You cannot conjure creativity from nothing, you need to put creative players on, which is why I would strongly advocate having Jonas on the bench, and Anita and Marveaux on the field.

    We seem to go down without a fight these days anyway, might as well out the technical players on and see if it makes a difference.

  • 123 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    DokToon

    Will do Dok…no problem ;)

  • 124 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Spoof

    What is wrong then hahaha :) ?

  • 125 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Dok

    Well of course your kid is going to play for NUFC someday! After all, you’re the Chief Scout of the MLS for us ;)

    Btw, I watched a couple of games there recently, Real Salt Lake vs LA Galaxy and NY Red Bulls vs Chivas and some of the quality in midfield was pretty good, but the defending was shocking.

    Any league that allows Robbie Keane to score a hat trick must hang its head in shame! haha

  • 126 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Robert Lee, wonder how much he would cost in todays market, the entertainers were full of great players, Beardlsey, Ferdinand, Asprilla, Albert and many more, but how many if they could only choose one player as being the most important of that side would choose Robert Lee, now that would be an interesting vote, Lee or Pedro would get my vote as I believe that they were always the biggest miss when they weren’t there.

  • 127 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Toon1978

    Every time he says “WE” when he is doing punditry it makes my heart leap with joy, love the man. Which is part of the reason I get more and more p**sed off with Shearer when he is on MOTD. Where’s the bias Alan!?

  • 128 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    British players are over priced and well over hyped, they are as loyal as players from abroad. The players that come from abroad don’t have the mentality of everything should be handed to them where as the youth of the British Isles believe they have already made it. Look no further than the U21′s and U20′s

  • 129 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Spoof

    I believe R.Lee would cost around 20 – 25 million in todays market. Beardsley…..priceless. I loved them both and what i would give to have them both in their 20s playing for us is no ones business lol. Beardsley was probably the best we have ever had but R.Lee remains my favourite.

  • 130 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Toon1978

    as if you don’t know, tell you what m8, I’m glad your joking because if you were serious the men in white coats would be coming to take you away lol

  • 131 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Ruddy would it not make more sense having Santon on the left wing and Jonas left back, or even Haidara/Dummett left back, Marv unfortunately needs to stay on the bench, has great passing ability but he shows as much coming off the bench than if he starts, I ask where is the incentive in starting the kid?

  • 132 JAMSHA // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bafétimbi_Gomis

    gomis to newcastle :-P

  • 133 fatman // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jonas Gutierrez might have a poor cross but he’s the best in the premier league at falling over, in fact he’s the best since the late & great Norman Wisdom, who i happens to bump into at the old cattle shed of a stand, then he managed to fall down each step a true great. Jonas Gutierrez on the other hand falls down and just looks like a cheat.

  • 134 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Our Toon

    I think the failings of the English underage teams is more to do with the inadequate coaching than it is to do with any mentality they may or may not have

  • 135 Barton // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Pardew’s got no say on cabaye wat so ever,if he was not willing to play for us,he would have been fined,ha’way this is big mike here,wont pay a penny out more than he has to,seems to me its cashley and the clown kinnear telling Pardew not to select him,and from wat i heard Pardew has a clause that gives him a small percentage of any profits on transfers fee,v clever of cashley that,gives his manager no say wat so ever on transfers out,but hey lad here is your 50 pieces of silver so shut it,and as for guti playing week in,week out,i got a feeling he has a clause stating if fit he must be picked,was told that 18 months ago,then again who ruddy knows wat the truth is at our club,only truth i know for sure is Cashley,Kinnear and Pardew are as my father used to say when he could not make mind up if i was a tw@t or a pillick,total Twallicks!!

  • 136 roblee7 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    My real name is actually Robert Lee….make that Robert Joseph Edwin Lee with middle names, but Rob Lee nevertheless! :)

  • 137 DokToon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    ruddy, funny you mention that, was at my local, wearing my toon shirt as i tend to do, and a guy inthere was trying to argue how the MLS is better than the prem…

    he didnt appreciate the beer i spewed all over his iphone when i heard that….

    he tried to call me unamercian for saying the prem was the better league… i simply said to look at the quality of players… nuff said…

    then i told the bartender he was drunk and to cut him off, whcih she did, under his vociferous protests, i did wave gbye to him though, nice guy that i am….

  • 138 roblee7 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Agreed though, one of the best midfielders we’ve ever had IMO

  • 139 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Happy days…..well done lad. Hope we see him.

    http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/young-wayne-rooney-called-into-newcastle-squad-against-morecambe-1-5992406

  • 140 Thump // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    and from wat i heard Pardew has a clause that gives him a small percentage of any profits on transfers

    I’ve never heard such shite in my life.

  • 141 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Toon1978

    it was a great time to be a supporter, Shearer, Batty, Gillespie, all great players yet we didn’t even consider them as being the most vital, and look at us now, still living in the shadow of that great side, heartbreaking ?

  • 142 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    our toon

    Agree…they are not good enough and get the wages of much better players purely as clubs want the best english lads as early as possible.

    Great programme on BBC 5live specials (just good that to get a full list of them) from last week which states that a lot of academies have good english players but they are never the match winners, they are good players but dont shine as bright as the foreign boys do.

  • 143 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Spoof

    Yes, how the mighty have fallen. 2 years we challenged Man Utd all the way to the title and even had a 12 point lead. What a team. Even Cantona said to KK at the time ” you have some team” Ginola scoring that screamer against the Devils, Albert also and Rob Lee the maestro ripping them apart with his passing.

  • 144 Thump // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    @Toon1978: He must be impressing if he’s on his first year at the club and being called up already. Good luck to the lad!

  • 145 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Adam Armsrong, never heard anything about, has anyone seen him play, with a bit of luck we will be 4 up with half an hour left so he gets a chance, its always interesting to see kids coming on.
    Is he quick, skilful, tall, fast or what any idea of what type of player he is or could be

  • 146 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Dok

    Well I don’t think anyone can properly argue that the MLS is a better league than the PL, that’s just ludicrous, but as an Irish man I can’t condone cutting a man off ;) haha

  • 147 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Thump

    I love to see the youngins given a chance. Lets hope we have our own Rooney lol.

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Must head off here for a while chaps, will be back in a bit.

    You think about what you’ve done Dok! haha

  • 149 Barton // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    @40
    was told he has a 1% clause on player tranfer profits,ie he clicked £350,000,and if you think its a unheard of clause,i sugest you look in to why luton got rid of mike newell,some managers do have them m8,and makes it more likely with the way fatman thinks,v clever of him if its true

  • 150 Barton // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    @140

  • 151 Spoof // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Toon1978

    What a difference now, then we had Rob Lee ripping sides apart with his passing with Shearer, Ferdinand, Asprilla or Cole scoring for fun, with Ginola and Beardsley leading them a merry dance, and what do be have now, a midfield who can’t pass wind never mind a football, a goal shy strikeforce and creative players who are trying to ballet dance when wearing cloggs, I’m going to take the dog for a walk, I’m getting depressed now lol.

  • 152 nut meg // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Thump @140
    I posted earlier to day about managers getting a cut on transfers.Gerry Francis was getting a cut of in & out transfers if my memory serves me well.He was managing at QPR in the early 90s. Also it may be the reason that Harry gets the hump when he’s asked about his wheeling& dealing!
    Spoof @ 126
    I’ve been going to watch NUFC since the 55/56 season & Len White was always my favorite BUT i haven’t seen a better player than Beardsley at the toon.

  • 153 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Will have to check that programme out TS. At least Cabaye hasn’t come out and said he won’t play, this is all being peddled by the club and media whilst the man himself stays quiet….says a lot about us as a club. Yet Rooney gets praised, yes he played well for Man Utd but why has he forcefully asked to leave them twice, first time round if I’m not mistaken he wanted a new contract and got it with a fat pay rise, media stay silent though and his club have as well TBF. We on the other hand openly invite bids for our players, add Bale to that list as well

  • 154 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Spoof

    Hahahaha, yeah, i have depressed myself now haha.

  • 155 nut meg // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Shearer,Ferdinand & Cole all had one thing in common….Beardsley creating chances.You need creative players…….easy peasy.

  • 156 fatman // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Thump

    he gets 1% of player sales

  • 157 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Andy Cole’s game was as good as Cisse’s, give the guy chances and he will score, only difference between the 2 is that Cisse will score some sublime goals, both needed service. Cole got through Beardsley, honestly think Cisse could get it through Ben Arfa (if played behind striker)

  • 158 fatman // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    I found this article on Harry Redknapp its part of a managers bonuses.

    Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp ‘hid £187,000 in off-shore account’ from sale of Peter Crouch
    Harry Redknapp received almost £600,000 in commission payments from transfers involving Peter Crouch and Rio Ferdinand, a court was told yesterday as the Tottenham manager’s financial affairs were laid bare on the opening day of his trial on charges of tax evasion.

  • 159 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Some proper exaggerated tosh about marvo, most probably written by tv fans. I notice he shows for the ball in good positions but our lot miss him out too often. And just as he gets a little run, pardew benches him.

  • 160 nut meg // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Fatman
    I thought that was his dogs cash !lol

  • 161 geordielad880 // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Side for tonight:-

    ————————-Krul

    Debuchy—-collocini—m’biwa——–dummett

    ————-sissoko————-anita
    ———————–gosling
    –obertan———————————–sammi
    ————————Cisse

  • 162 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    our toon

    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/5live/5lspecials/5lspecials_20130813-2131a.mp3

    thats the link, mark chapman of BBC and others discuss the season with ticket prices, tv deals and tradition…good listen for 90 mins

  • 163 fatman // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    sorry nut meg your right it was rosy who got the money

  • 164 JAMSHA // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    makarina vs weecastle on tenaction india 4:30 am repeat

  • 165 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    From Nufc.com

    Squad: To follow. Yohan Cabaye won’t be involved and the Chronicle reports that Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa will be captain, suggesting that neither Fabricio Coloccini or Shola Ameobi will be in the starting XI.

    Have we fallen so low that Shola ‘I’m not actually a footballer’ Ameobi is in contention to captain the side?

    I’d sooner shove my hand down the mouth of a great white shark, then watch 2 minutes of Shola Ameobi wearing the captains armband.

  • 166 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    been thinking of our discussion the other night…not totally in agreement but have come round to your view that we should be grateful of what we have, we have a solid prem league team, spent most time in the prem league (only one year out), are financially secure and get to see top flight football every week.

    Still want to see a couple more players and a better manager, as well as better youth development but in general we do have it good compared to most teams in the country, especially those outside the prem.

  • 167 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    @Our Toon

    For that to work, Arfa has to be less of a ball hog / trigger shooter. The amount of times he blasted the ball from outside the box, only to watch it sail over the bar was nearly in double figures….

  • 168 JAMSHA // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    would play ben arfa tonight he needs to practice some skills

  • 169 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    Seriously mate get a grip Marv is average at best, I’ve seen this pretender live for the past 2 years and he offers as much from the bench as he does when he starts, sorry mate but it’s just a fact. People are quick to jump to stats but how many of those assists etc came from games he started in? Don’t forget some of the games he did start were against weak teams and I mean weak (Morecombe esc)

  • 170 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    our toon

    I like marv but he only ever influences the game from the middle..occasionally when wide but 99% when he is drifting into the middle.

    I’d like to start him there seeing as we lack creativity in the middle and can play others out left (gouff, remy, jonas, obertan) and let him have a go and see what happens.

    If it doesn’t work and he doesn’t show the required effort then fine, the experiment failed, but got to be worth a go.

  • 171 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Thump
    I wouldn’t dismiss pardew getting a cut of sales completley mate, he wouldn’t be the first manager to get a cut of sales from players that the manager has bought to the club

  • 172 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Ben arfa ball hog, yes agreed he is. I would be if I was as good as him, shooting was way off on Saturday and he was for the first time in his career guilty of excessive shooting in the first half.

    Might this have something to do with the fact that as a creative player, possibly the only one on the pitch he feels the responsibility of having to do it himself?

  • 173 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    As for this topic
    IF cabaye is refusing to play then either sell the pr*ck or fine him a months wages strip him of the vice captaincy and tell him straight, your under contract, we pay your wages, so get you ars3 on the pitch and do what your bloody paid fortunes to do and sort your sh*t out

  • 174 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    I see Everton and Villa have entered talks for Ince. Thought we might try and get him.

  • 175 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Toon1978
    We’ll put a bid in £3 mil lower than the accepted offer when he’s having a medical somewhere

  • 176 Douglas // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Cabaye should be sold for whatever we can get and replaced with someone who wants to play for us – McCarthy?

  • 177 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth – as you say if (regarding Cabaye)

    Maybe none of what you have asked for has happened because the player hasn’t refused to play?

  • 178 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    Very cynical but very true mate. We really need to get at least one winger in and a striker.

  • 179 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Our Toon
    If Ashley is simply protecting his golden goose then there should be no doubt over his ambitions, holding out for the highest bidder with no interest in the fact we have next to no time to bring in a sensible replacement

  • 180 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    I agree Marv could be more effective playing through the middle but he played as a winger at Rennes though. Just wish he looked more up for a game, seems far to laid back, bit like Strolla, can offer more / should offer more but flatters to deceive

  • 181 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Toon1978
    Mate I turned cynical the second I saw that JFK had been appointed DOF!
    Surely he should be sacked on sept 2nd for incompetence if all he manages is one loan signing?

  • 182 Toon1978 // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    Yes, how can Ashley employ such a foul mouthed man to negotiate potential bloody signings? Of all the people you could employ we employ JK. Madness.

  • 183 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth

    The Cabaye situation is a symptom of how we are run from top to bottom, if you want to sell one of your prized assets you need to make sure you have enough time to find a replacement (common sense) but this lot seem to think it’s acceptable to sell key members and not worry about replacing because we can get by. Money before ambition, come on, the player would have been treated like Suarez and Bale for that matter if he had done anything wrong. This is classic case of protect your asset so you can sell him, tell your asset the only way he leaves the club is for £20m but he can’t play and certainly cannot talk to press. Meanwhile the garbage is peddled out to media and unfortunately the likes of Douglas lap it up!!

    Thanks for the link TS will check it out

  • 184 King Arfa // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Watch out for Adam armstrong tonight if he makes match day squad

  • 185 lesh // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    toonarmydownsouth @181

    Sack a poor old man would you? You’re a hard, heartless, callous and bitter man. Me too!!

    The tw@ should never have been started in the first place let alone brought back

  • 186 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    How are we all doing now?

    Sage

    Happy with what we have?!? Derby have won a First Division, Nottingham Forest have won a First Divisions title as well as a few European cups and Ipswich won the UEFA Cup back in 1981 and all these clubs are now in the second tier of English football, and have fallen away, so people think that because these clubs have fallen away, despite having higher prestige than us, we should be grateful for being in the PL.

    That is a disgusting attitude. These clubs had world class managers at the helm, that is why they won these trophies, and for no other reason. They are not on the same stratosphere in terms of fan base, infrastructure, stadium size etc and as such we operate on a different level than these clubs.

    Yes, the Championship, and even League One, have clubs that have won First Division trophies, FA Cups and even European trophies and as such, have tasted greater success than us, but we are bigger and better than these clubs, and any fan who thinks we should be merely grateful for being in the PL is short sighted, and suffers from the same blinkered lack of ambition as our own fair owner.

    Rid yourselves of this grossly erroneous assumption that we should be grateful for playing top flight football, it is a poisonous belief.

  • 187 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Our Toon
    Very true and won’t disagree
    The only reason I said if it is cabs is purely that he does have a very petulant side to him we’ve seen on the pitch on a fair few occasions

    But with our club, who the fcuk knows what’s happening these days

  • 188 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    I should have guessed that Blackley and Brownly was the one who came out with that viewpoint originally.

    He doesn’t think boycotting would be a good idea, not because he is a die hard Geordie supporter and thinks it would be detrimental to the club, but because he is actually happy with the regime at the moment as they are providing us with PL football.

    Oh bliss…

  • 189 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Lesh
    Lol yep!!
    Okay maybe looking at his puppy dog eyes and listening to his incoherent ramblings I couldn’t bring myself to sack him
    Maybe just tell him were going for a drive then dumping him in pennywell and speeding off!!

  • 190 Wiz // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    No discussion of a perfectly conceivable outcome tonight – defeat by the mighty Ms. There has to be a winner and loser tonight, and it seems to me to be quite possible, and possibly even more than possible, that we are beaten. What happens then? Do we get a series of declarations of pain and guilt and then vows of determination and hard work to put it right against Fulham? Or do we get swift action by Ashley and a new manager by the weekend? I honestly don’t know. And I honestly don’t know what I would prefer.

  • 191 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    There was a time when i believed that development was to be the cornerstone of the club. Organic growth aided by modest investment in the transfer market to progress without a five year cycle.

    I was happy that we would likely as not be spending around £ 15-20 million on a player . We really didn’t t need to because of Carr and an astute approach to the transfer market. The early signs were good what a snip Cabaye was and what a talent! We could be a success on a shoe string budget bringing through our own talent and supplementing the squad from the sale of some so called purples. That went the same way as the instigator .

    Nothing stands still in football and you have to be running to keep up. Take Swansea a team who play good football and won a cup last season. They clearly have a good scouting system as evidenced by them acquiring the likes of Vorm and Michu for small beer. They have also developed the likes of a number through their own ranks. They have spent very little on player signings.

    You could argue that had we signed Michu last summer for £2m, our fans would have been condemning Ashley for not spending his dosh.

    The problem is we, the fans don’t know what the hell the plan is – if there is one anymore.

  • 192 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Wiz
    Ashley won’t care if we win or not!
    In fact he’d hate us to win a cup, he’d have to buy a trophy cabinet!!

  • 193 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Wiz

    The Devil you know is better than the Devil you don’t. I strongly think that Kinnear will not be the next manager of NUFC if Pardew is to ever get the chop, but I dread to think who would be.

    However, Pardew will never be sacked for losing a cup match, fans hate losing cup matches, but Ashley loves losing cup matches, cup matches don’t bring in much income and distract a small squad from retaining their PL status. Case in point – Wigan.

    Ashley doesn’t care that we are longing to win a cup and have done for over 40 years.

  • 194 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    ruddy

    Personally I think we have a bigger fan base purely due to timing. We became competitive when the prem league took over from division one…us challenging for the title then got our name around the world even more due to the huge new TV coverage during the 90′s.

    The fact the clubs you meant (often share their city with another side, or are in a smaller city/town than newcastle) accounts for their smaller stadium/local fan base.

    Trophies are the main thing which makes a club a big club….sure what we have is quite special, and shouldn’t be ignored but it doesn’t give us a divine right to a top club. Sunderland are relatively big in terms of fan base (local that is, not as much world wide…but thats cause they haven’t been up there in the prem league era)…doesnt make them a huge club either.

    I don’t think we should be grateful but it’s important to remember we are quite lucky as newcastle fans compared to a lot of sides.

    Not saying we shouldn’t push on more but it does not harm to just be a solid prem league club either. I don’t like ashley, want a more ambitious owner but he isn’t damaging the club long term.

  • 195 kinnearandfar // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    5/1 for a Morcambe win tonight with Ladbrokes

  • 196 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    NB. – Should read: Progress within a five year cycle.

  • 197 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    ruddy

    if the prem league had taken over 10 years earlier liverpool would be the club running away with it every year, not man utd

    if it was before that maybe villa would have kicked on more

  • 198 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Lads it seems as though some are happy with mediocrity but come on, 52k every week should get more and certainly deserve better. Being grateful for being in the PL, I’d rather be in the first division or conference and show ambition, than be in the PL and show no ambition. Our only ambition as a club it to break even/ make a profit, oh and stay in the league…..that is shocking!! Championship clubs show more ambition than we do

  • 199 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Sage

    He isn’t damaging the club long term? What!?

    While clubs like Swansea, Southampton, Norwich, West Brom, Everton, West Ham, all kick on and develop their squads, we are standing still, and in a lot of cases, being surpassed by these teams.

    Ashley is content with us being a mid table team, and while these clubs progress, push up the table, command greater sponsorship deals and heaven forbid, qualify for Europe regularly, we will be consigned to being ONLY a mid table club for the foreseeable.

    If you’re content with that then I’m afraid we are on completely different wavelengths for what constitutes ambition.

  • 200 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Sage

    Timing has made us a big club now, fantastic, but we’re now 20 years on from the PL inception, stop looking back, look forward to the abyss that we are heading into as a club.

  • 201 fatman // Aug 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Why are so many of our fans attacking Cabaye for refusing to play without the slightest bit of proof, if you morons keep it up you will damage the club who would want to play for some of you lot, really you could not see through a window. until you get proof keep your whinging to yourselves before no player wants to play for us, it was Pardew that was beetling on about some one coming in for Cabaye, it wont be long before we are told that once a big club came in for Cabaye we had to sell. the one fact we know is Cabaye is for sale, and he’s not playing, and he’s not getting injured. if you half whits want something to pass your time message me your addresses and i will send you a coloring book and crayons it about matches your rather lack of intelligence.

  • 202 tequilamag // Aug 28, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Half-whits…. priceless




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