Well there’s some good news for Newcastle fans today with the news that Newcastle have reopened talks for Bafe Gomis of Lyon, and now Sky Tyne and Wear are reporting that we are talking to former striker Demba Ba.
Demba Ba – could this striker be coming back to Newcastle?
Sky Tyne and Wear are reporting that Newcastle officials have made contact with Chelsea over a possible loan move for the former Newcastle striker.
With Joe Mourinho coming back to Chelsea, it’s obvious there is no future for Ba at the London club, and he didn’t even travel on Monday for the top game at Old Trafford.
In an exclusive from Sky Tyne and Wear, the news is that the Senegalese striker is also being wooed by Qatar club Al-Jaish who have made an enquiry to Chelsea for the player.
Ba would be welcomed back to Tyneside big time if he returns, after leaving Newcastle for Chelsea in January for around £7M, and Newcastle have been struggling ever since to score goals.
Even though he left in January, Ba was still joint top scorer with 13 goals in the Premier League last term in just 22 appearances.
And in the season and a half he was at the club, Ba scored a fantastic 29 goals in 58 total appearances.
Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba never clicked on Tyneside, but wouldn’t it be a dream come true if Newcastle could get both Bafe Gomis and Demba Ba to Newcastle this week.
Where’s those blood pressure pills – this is too much potential good news – all at once.
Who does Joe Kinnear think he is – a Director of Football? 😀
But the Chronicle is reporting that if Newcastle can sign Gomis from Lyon, that would be it, and Newcastle would not pursue Demba Ba.
That’s a pity if it’s true, because if Newcastle had more ambition, we’d try to get both strikers in, and Ba would not be too expensive on a season-long loan deal – not considering the number goals he could score for us.
We really need to show more ambition at Newcastle.
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74 responses so far ↓
1 magicbus // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Hope its promising news but we wont get both so not sure which one I would prefer.
2 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:14 AM
I’d take Ba over cisse. My main fear of a loan is not just we might lose him again next summer but that we wont be able to use him right this year.
If we sign him permanently then he can start ahead of cisse, if he deserves to based on performances, and if cisse is annoyed and wants to leave we still have Ba and can look for another forward next year.
On loan if we play him ahead of cisse and cisse wants to leave come the end of the year, and ba goes back to chelsea…we will be left with nobody.
3 toon1707 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:15 AM
I would prefer gomis as at least that is a proper signing rather than another loaned in player who will leave at the end of the season. I am sure we won’t get both I personally think BA is a backup if the gomis deal breaks down again
4 shearermania // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:15 AM
problem is\; him and cisse still cant play together….why go back to a failure…i like ba but without cisse or if ba agrees to play on the left…otherwise its doomed – weve been there
5 Mark29Hungary // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Out of respect for Sir Bobby, Mourinho can give us Ba on loan… 🙂
6 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM
dont see why we cant buy ba…he will cost less than gomis
7 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:19 AM
shearermania
don’t need to play together…got other forwards who can play alongside either of them in remy, HBA, gouff and shola
Ba and Cisse could be direct competition for each other.
8 wayneo009 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Will he wear a shirt with wonga on it?????
9 shearermania // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM
but honestly i really cant be bothered anymore…..who ever comes – if any…pards has lost the dressing room…..its a shame cause i like pards – but this club is rotten to the core….all players are playing with fear and the owner and his sidekick well…
the lunatics have taken over the asylum…..
one day we will shine again…one day
10 Edd Case // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:21 AM
I’ll open myself up here for abuse maybe but…
I don’t want Ba back. Yes he was great in a Toon shirt and I know he’d play well for us again but he could have stayed in the first place.
Would he really be at his best mentally having taken a ‘step backwards’ to come and play for us again?
I would rather see us tie up the Gomis deal. This lad looks built for the Prem and he’s something new, something different and something we can really look forward to.
I’d love to see Cisse, Gomis and Remy, or 2 from those 3 up top.
What we still desperately lack is real, true creative quality in our midfield. HBA’s decision making is poor at times – how many times did he chose to smash shots wide against WH?
I’d love to see Hughes, Ince, Thauvin and so on…with Gomis, no Ba.
Only player I can recall that was a real success story after we re-signed him was Beardsley – and Ba ain’t no Beardo.
11 jimBOB // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:21 AM
def have Ba back, he can get the job done, proven prem league striker, take him over Gomis.
12 richyg01 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:21 AM
L’Equipe: Rennes full-back Dimitri Foulquier is to join Granada on loan, despite late interest from Newcastle.
13 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Please please please bring back Demba!!
Biggest mistake we made was not removing the clause and offering the lad a proper contract instead of one based on performance bonuses
By far the most suited all round CF for us and has all aspects of the game
As for this
http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/08/28/joe-kinnear-back-in-for-bafe-gomis-2/
How is this good news? Overpriced average CF who doesn’t really want to come here
Much much better players available for the price
14 Assam Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:22 AM
if we at all needed to give anyone an 8 year deal, i should have been Ba. Get him back Ashley!
15 richyg01 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Ba over Gomis any day.
Proven Goal Scorer, Proven in the EPL.
BUT…
We need to get the ball up to the box before anyone can put the ball in the net.
We need wingers, pace, creativity.
16 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Richy
Agree, a winger and a CAM are a must, but with only 5 days left in the window there’s no chance!
17 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Arsenal have reached an agreement with Flamini!
Cabaye to AFC looks dicy?
18 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:25 AM
edd case
Fair enough. I just think Ba seems to like playing football (and left to play at the highest level). He tried to step up and for whatever reason never got a proper crack at it…I think we are his level…he isn’t quite the player that top clubs want (not sure why).
I’d take him back but new players are always exciting.
19 Thump // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Is it just me or does Pardew seem to be getting a bit pissed off with the squad not putting a shift in? That’s what I’ve taken from the last article, at least.
Not an easy game tonight, mind. The lower league teams gave it a right bloody go last night so expect more of the same tonight.
20 richyg01 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Cabaye to Arsenal looks less likely now, Arsenal are now said to be looking at Mata.
21 Noah Another Ameobi // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:26 AM
imagine a front 3 of remy ba hba that would be amazing
22 Noah Another Ameobi // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY07F690hoA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUKRhfECH6yJkLF5vxoFYy7w
23 Klatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:29 AM
richy
Dimitri Foulquier looked class at the U-20 world cup…reminds me alot of Lilian Thuram, big and strong which you dont often find in fb’s these days
24 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM
I find it Amazing the moment there is some transfer news the likes of Lee ryder and Mark douglas are putting it down in minutes.
25 toon1707 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM
We all seem to be split on who we prefer BA or Gomis come on ED get a poll started lol
26 NUFCarter // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM
I dont think demba went for the money more of the ‘next step up’.
27 noir9 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Transfer
Think you’ve hit the nail on the head, Ba’s a very good player but he’s just not quite at the next level.
28 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:34 AM
I do not know which of Cabaye or mcCarthy is better.
But McCarthy has not said one word playing in CC where as I can Imagine Cabaye kicking up a storm.
29 lesh // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Dimitri Foulquier bites the dust eh.
When will this ownership realise the wisdom of getting transfer business done very early in the window.
This club is an omnishambles! Now there’s a word for a banner!
30 NUFCarter // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Mbiwa to captain side against morecambe tonight.
31 FatmanJoe // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:40 AM
I went to see the AFC Wimbledon vs Morecombe superclash last season in Kingston and to be fair Morecombe shouldn’t really give us any trouble tonight at all. They had a super little player called Jordan Burrow who would have given us problems all night with his pace and trickery but he’s been sold and the only other player they have worth looking at is Jack Redshaw. The rest are as you would expect are fairly mediocre and if we attacked their defence from the get-go they’ll be all over the place. We were sat behind the keeper and with some pressure from the crowd he’ll make silly mistakes. I’m hoping for a convincing 3-0.
32 cockneymafiaout // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Thump
A shame MK dons didnt beat the mackems last night, no doubt would have out di canio in a strop
wonder what team people would put out tonight. I was trying to think earlier and I was struggling with the lack of dpeth we have am struggling to find a team professional enough to get the job done tonight, while also looking forward to fulham.
33 FatmanJoe // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Would have Demba back in a heart beat and have a bit of friendly competition between him and Cisse for the starting spot. In a heartbeat!
34 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Markaccus
I hardly think that boycotting 2 / 3 games is going to liquidate NUFC, a bit drastic don’t you think? Massive difference between rugby and football, both are really good sports but football has a much wider audience hence a more attractive proposition if someone is looking to invest….hence the free advertising of Sports Direct, the ownership won’t change unless it is hit in the pocket. We all want to watch the game as I have said numerous times that the Man City game was the first one I have missed in 15 years…..rain, cold, sickness, bereavements have never stopped me from supporting my club home or away, but this lot have driven me to this. This mob have no line of communication so who do we the fans reach out to them? I’m open to any alternative suggestions you have other than boycotting.
I never asked season ticket holders to boycott, just wouldn’t make sense as they have already paid, but season ticket holders don’t have to buy anything when they attend the games, boycotting all Sports Direct stores, refuse to spend your money in these shops!! I’m giving suggestions it may not be the solution and i’m certainly not preaching, as I say if you have suggestions I’m all ears!!
35 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:44 AM
I’d like to see both Gomis and Ba but if I had the choice it would have to be Gomis, I think his game is more suited to the way we will play….hoofball!! Demba will want to play through the middle and is one of the main reasons why Cisse was shifted out to the right wing, the manager has no bottle and will buckle again, Ba was good but time to move on. Remy and Ba in the same team.
36 martoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:49 AM
I would have thought Ba’s wages would be a sticking point as presumably he is on a lot more at Chelsea than he was here. I consider Remy as a Ba replacement so think I would prefer Gomis who would seem to be a more physical player and therefore a good partner for Cisse or Remy.
37 Newcastle Brown Alien // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Would love ba back, but only if he would play out wide again, like the end of the 11/12 season, he could maybe be a little more central, but not paired up front with cisse. This would be my team:
———-krul———–
deb-colo-mym-santon
—–anita-sissoko——
———–hba———–
—-remy-cisse-ba——
Assuming Cabaye is gone
38 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM
our toon
I think any campaign against Ashley needs to start small. You will have a lot of people who dont like him but only few who would boycott games…need to get as many on side with small gestures like chants, pre game protest, sit in after game, all that sort of thing.
The more you can get onside with things like that then the more who will stay onside when more action is taken.
39 Klatoon // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM
id play Cisse tonight, goals give strikers confidence, regardless of opposition and Papiss could use some of that before we play Fulham.
40 Nufc-83 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Big problem with Ba is him and cisse in terms of a partnership where a shambles, cisse on the right was useless and ba on the left or right would not please him. That means if we bring ba in and drop cisse we have a player on loan probably playing alongside another player on loan and we will be in the deep stuff come the summer.
On Cisse the lad is completely useless for us at the minute we all knew his wonder strikes would dry up and for me we cant afford a player who is only a poacher. The lad offers nothing else his general all round game is abysmal.You wont see many players in the modern game who only offer poaching ability and for me when cisse is one vs one he is terrible. Purely instinctive st who is generally in the right place at the right time. I would get rid if possible but all of the loan signings we may be making would leave us with a full forward line rebuild next season. Worrying times!
41 Greebol1892 // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Getting Ba on loan is actually quite likely and more realistic; considering that we WILL NOT going to sign ANYONE this window. Loan deals are the only option until January.
42 Tommyy // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Why would Ba even want to come back? The club is a mess and the football and service is dire. If I wasn’t a fan I’d stay well away.
43 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM
nufc-83
Thats why we should buy not loan Ba….need to get cisse some genuine competition which Ba would give him, as well as give us another goal scorer. At least if Ba is a permanent deal and cisse gets upset we will be keeping Ba, not potentially losing both come summer.
44 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Do AFC even want Cabaye or just wasting NUFC’s time with Bids they are never gonna accept.
45 dcdick // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Pardew out !!!
46 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:00 PM
indian
they spent a few weeks wasting liverpools time bidding low amounts for suarez…they simply do it every year and say we tried…very much like our owner, but they still bring in some players, just not the top ones.
47 JonnyB_NUFC // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Ba would come cheaper than Gomis, so why not buy Ba for say, 7m, then wait till Janurary and put a cheeky 5m bid for Gomis. This way we have two permanent strikers in place so we aren’t rattled if Remy returns to QPR.
48 Our Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Transfer Sage
I think that is a very good idea to start with something small and the things you have suggested make perfect sense, maybe if fans inside and the ones outside can unite then this will be more affective. e.g. 60mins into the match the fans turn their backs for a minimum of 2 mins whilst chanting against the owner and fans outside SJP can also chant against the board but this has to be simultaneously (both inside and outside) to have the desired affect
49 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM
TS
You know that they have agreed a deal with Flamini.
BTW, how is cricket going?
50 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM
johnnyB
That would make sense, totally agree. If things are even going well with us if Ba returns we could even just offer Gomis a contract and get him free in the summer.
51 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Pardew, who plied his trade on the non-league scene with the likes of Whyteleafe and Dulwich Hamlet, knows that the team that have emerged from the lower end of football’s ever-changing pyramid will be eyeing a scalp.
He told the Chronicle: “Newcastle away at Morecambe is a potential giant-killing.
“And of course that’s why they have highlighted it for TV.
“There’s great potential for them in that it could be a shock.
“It’s great for Morecambe.
“They’ll be really up for it.
“An old mentor of mine said that if you beat any top-flight team you should be out celebrating because it’s a tough ask at any level.”
52 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM
our toon
check out the mike ashley out campaign on twitter and facebook MAOC….spoke to them and they said they will let me know when the next form of action takes place, if everyone is in one group it makes it much easier.
Indian
Only 2 games left, going quite well, cup final to come and 3/4th out of 27 teams so not bad.
and is it confirmed? heard rumours…he is what they need to hold the midfield and allow wilshire, corzola and ramsey to attack.
53 one Tony Green // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Cisse is shite. Ba Remy Gomis yes please.
54 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Would have Ba back in a heartbeat.
Also , anyone else think we seriously missed out on Sturridge ? . I think he is Englands best striker at the minute and we could have got him for under £10 million after his loan to Bolton.
55 The next Mike Williamson // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:09 PM
We played really bad long ball when we had Ba making us really predictable.Also somebody mentions he’s good at holding the ball up. What’s the use of this when none of our midfielders get forward. We need an attacking midfielder like Ince or Thauvin.
I’m pretty much resigned to the fact that Pard’s needs a long ball team. He was a conference player and has done most his managing in the lower leagues. I think if we gave him a team of rubbish grafters like Leon Best, Danny Simpson, Perch & ryan Taylor he’d do OK. At West Ham he prefered Hayden Mullens to Mascherao & Harewood to Tevez, leading Tevez to say Pardew doesn’t know how to use foreign players.
Gomis fits the bill as a big pile of sh*te that Pardew likes, but I think we’ve already got that covered. Ameobi would score more goals than he does in the French League.
I almost want us to lose tonight so we can get rid of Pardew.
56 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:11 PM
big pappa
he is a talent, always said as a central striker he is great…used wide he wasn’t as good, shot at every chance to try and get the goals he needed to demand a central role (was his problem at chelsea).
I’d have loved the guy to come here, remember his goal for bolton against us and been impressed since.
57 G // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:11 PM
I would prefer Ba over Gomis any day. Gomis isn’t a bad player, but he is slow, and his work ethic is questionable at times. I have the feeling that if we sign him, it won’t take long for the fans to turn on him. At least we know Ba can find the back of the net in the prem, and his all-round game is much better than your average striker.
58 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Watching a web chat with Graeme bailey.
He says BA is not a prime option and not that likely.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/8892117/transfer-debate
59 Transfer Sage // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM
next mike williamson
Agree that the football wont get much better with Ba but he fits pardews style….defend for your life and hope somebody gets a goal out of nothing…Ba and cabaye are now missing leaving only cisse and HBA who get these individual goals.
i’d like Ba back, as well as a couple wingers/creative lads….least then pardew has no excuses and we can really see his intentions/style.
60 Toonfan8 // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Ba would be great, better CF than Cisse, stronger, bigger…we should go for him on loan, with possible permanent move…and should go for Gomis in january for 3M…and i personally would like to see Cabs go, i like him much as a player, but we need fresh players like Mc Carthy…so sell Cabs 18-20M
bring Mc Carthy 10, Ince 8, Ba(loan)…
and would love to see Micah Richards, but never going to happen 🙁
FB—Santon,Debuchy,Dummet,Haidara
CB—Colo,Mbiwa,Saylor,Willo
DM—Anita,Tiote,Jonas,Bigi
CM—Sissoko,Mc Carthy,Marveaux
WG—HBA,Remy,Gouffran,SaAmeobi,Obertan
SC—Ba,Cisse,ShAmeobi
GK—Krul,Elliot,Alnwick
……………Krul……………..
Debuchy,Mbiwa,Colo,Santon
..Mc Carthy,Anita,Sissoko
HBA……..Ba…………Remy
…………………………..
Dummet,Haidara,Saylor,Tiote,Jonas,Marveaux,Gouffran,SaAmeobi,Cisse
61 Indian Magpie // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Mackems to buy Callum Mcmanaman and Danny rose. while we are *******ourselves
62 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Iain Dowie, nothing to do with Sammy coming off… it was Marveaux coming off AGAIN. Always him that goes off and usually first and that’s if Pardew is force to play him, like on the weekend. It was as soon as the numbers board went up. I was one of the angered fans and was shouting as I’m sick of his mis-management.
He is definitely better in the centre behind the forward/s. Out of the awful attempts at goal which which had, Marveaux’s simple 1-2 with Shola nearly provided a chance in the box, was just unfortunate that he slipped As he went forward.
Simple footballing principles just aren’t being adhered to.
Ian Toon, I really don’t know what you’re talking about when you are commenting on the football ‘style’ during the game. If you think there’s even decent movement in our play, I shudder to think what you think is poor movement. I can’t believe you can be so positive when most peiple see us playing awfully, and still actually in the league thanks to Swansea and Bosingwa alone.
The lack of goals/shots/movement and creativity isn’t down to individual players, it is the frankly abysmal coaching and pre-planning in training.
Only an imbecile can manage a group of international players into looking lost and clueless. Congratulations, Alan, you are that imbecile.
63 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Genuinely can’t believe, that people supporting a team who struggle to score goals, are actually saying they wouldn’t want Ba!
A proven goal scorer who has shown time and time again at Newcastle that even when were playing sh*te he could pop up and get goals
Goals win games ffs
And no, Ba isn’t the reason cisse played RW, Pardew is
And cisse also played 50% of his games this season with Ba in a 442 and still wasn’t scoring, Ba was
Cisse has also played alongside shola and doesn’t score, Ba does
But no your right, fear of competition is a great reason not to bring players in……
64 Jail for Ashley // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM
This is what the club have descended into, people making comments like ”Cisse isn’t fit to lace Dembas’ boots” or that ”Cisse is shite” here we are clamouring to bring back a player who lied to and decieved his manager then deserted a seemingly sinking ship we have another striker who is only playing for us because his gambling was exposed and another who might possibly be getting charged with rape, this club is becoming the opitime of a seedy b rated soap opera.
65 one Tony Green // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM
@64 get over yourself. Remy has been charged with nothing yet and in this country that means he is innocent. What the club has descended into don’make me laugh. Fat Freddy and Douglas Hall were real pillars of the society. Cocaine, Prostitutes, Geordie women being dogs and the men thick as pig shit buying cheap shirts made in Asia.. Titus Bramble charged with rape, Gillespie sold because of gambling debts. Bowyer and Woodgate both racists oh yes the good old days.
66 Ian Toon // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Laurent Robert- it was always Ginola for me!
Which post of mine are you referring too. I
think your confusing me with the excellent
Iain Dowie.
What I do believe and mentioned on Sunday is that with
a few astute offensive/ creative signings we will be
competing for a Europa place.
67 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM
*Sammy coming on I meant, obviously. Typing on phone is off-putting.
68 lesh // Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM
@48
Our Toon – don’t you think things like the fans turning their backs and chanting anti Ashley might just have a detrimental effect on our players?
Do you not think that they might just appreciate hearing support for them, the positives to gee them on, rather than the negatives that’ll just pi$$ them off and spur the opposition on?
A silent and very passive and compliant sut in after the match might just have more impact. The last thing we need to see is to see the police getting involved to deal with any stupidity or those reluctant to move!
69 lochinvar // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Ba – doubt if this is their real intent. Just a smoke screen to spook Gomis’ Agents and Gomis to sign up and not loose the deal and the money that’s on offer. Same way we are playing selling Cabaye off against buying Mcarthy. Transparent – as when any part of a deal falls through it’s due to ” circumstances beyond our control “. However I reserve judgement – never say never !
70 bishopblaize // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Get both, need as much fire power up front as possible as it’ll break down the work rate defensively and midfield playing as we are. Still fancy Tom Ince & .. Rooney (micky)
71 one Tony Green // Aug 28, 2013 at 1:40 PM
@Lesh never a truer word spoken fella
72 NufcPaz // Aug 28, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Ba is blatantly being ignored at Chelsea, *benchwarming*
I guess he’ll embrace a return to the Magpies. 😛
73 NufcPaz // Aug 28, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Try Rémy and Ba up front, that would be interesting tbh.
74 musomag // Aug 28, 2013 at 11:59 PM
Bring back Ba, Keegan, Nolan, Bobby Robson, Asprilla, Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Robert…..anyone but please lose Ashley ASAP
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