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Loan Fee Could Be Too Much For Demba Ba

9:16 am, Thursday, August 29th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 26 Comments

There was a couple of good bits of news yesterday morning on the Newcastle front, when we heard that the club were back in for Bafetimbi Gomis of Lyon, and then that we had made an enquiry for Demba Ba to take him on loan from Chelsea, where he seems to have no future.

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Demba Ba – while at Newcastle

And for one fleeting moment we thought maybe we could get both Gomis and Ba at the club before the transfer window closes next Monday, but then we came to our senses and realized that’s too ambitious and Newcastle would never do that.

Then the Chronicle was reporting that Ba would be a safety measure in case the club couldn’t get Gomis in, but news today that Demba Ba’s loan fee is a massive £3M, so that will rule Newcastle out of the reckoning.

Apparently the club are willing to pay only £1M to take the Senegal striker on loan for the season, even though we have coughed up £2M for Loic Remy from QPR.

Ba is unwilling to sit on the bench at Chelsea this season, and we don’t blame him, because he’s too good to not be playing at Stamford Bridge, but leaving Newcastle in January has not turned out to be a good move for the 28 year-old.

And apparently his transfer fee is £10M – and that’s good value for a player who scored 28 goals in 58 appearances for Newcastle.

We’d love Newcastle to try to bring both Gomis and Demba Ba to Tyneside, but if we did that we could be accused of wanting to be a top six team again – so that will not happen. :D

What do you think?

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26 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ibizatoon // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    I know it’s silly, but I struggle to get my head around paying an extra £3m than what we sold him for 6 months ago when he’s hardly played since and certainly not improved.

    I know he should never have been sold at £7m etc etc, but as I said yesterday, I just don’t see this deal happening. Surely another club will match or better anything we offer on this particular deal?

  • 2 toon1707 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    I wouldn’t pay 3 million just for 1 season either

  • 3 dannyhunt // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    pay 3 mil for ba til at least january then get gomis for cheaper as his contract runs out next summer anyway

  • 4 Slank // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Repost

    My afterthoughts of the match are:

    Elliot – Good but not as good as Krul
    Debuchy – Was given some rough treatment but stood up and didn’t lash out. It probably did him some good. Still needs to improve though.
    Mbiwa – Didn’t look cool, calm and collective. Not quite ready to be leader of the pack. Needs an experienced centre half alongside him, for the moment.
    Good – A very difficult baptism but coped very well. Was calm and assured. Needs to go on loan and have a long run of regular games. Great potential.
    Dummett – Excellent as always when I have seen him. Can be a regular in the first team.
    Marveaux – Real disappointment. Lots of little flicks and shimmys but does not impose himself. He hasn’t got the physical strength and/or physique to compete at the highest level.
    Gosling – Showed lots of awareness and put in an excellent shift. However he and Bigi together were not an effective combination in the middle.
    Bigi – Looked very rusty. Has bags of promise but needs more games. His time will come.
    Sammy – Never stopped working. Was always a threat. Took his goal well. Often was double marked.
    Vuckic – Was he on the pitch? Time is running out for him, sadly.
    Goofy – Lots of pace and an eye for the goal but is not the type of player to lead the line. He may drop down the pecking order when Remy and Gomis are available.
    Shola – His introduction changed the game. Held the ball up well, played others in and took his goal well.
    Ben Arfa – He is so wonderful to watch especially at pace where he just glides past players. Great passes for the goal.
    Sissoko – He came on far too late. He should have come on with Shola as our midfield was too light.

  • 5 Lee Dodd // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    This shows we have no Ambition. We cant get anyone EVER.. We say were going after someone then we think ahhh Great then we find out Time and Time again they want say £10 million we offer £6 million. We have no Ambition the goal this season sat in the top 16 AGAIN !!!!!! Buy players on a free … Why do we need Joe Kin Ladin or Even Graham Carr Anymore ??? I can tell you now we will get no one in . Cabaye will go for £15 million. Remy will be all we get … I always said This summers Signings Came in January this year and the Budget went on Keeping us in the Premier league… We do not need any more French players . BA would be the guy we need . The Fans still like and rate him But the Owner wont do that as he hates the fans and the fans hate him !!!!!

  • 6 Rotonda heights // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Ed

    Wow your sarcasm is getting very biting these days. lol !!!

  • 7 HullMag6 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    If cabs goes get him in but not on loan. Then sell cisse if we get gomis – I know he’s a nice guy but he’s becoming our amir zaki one season wonder I know he isnt getting the supply but what more can we do? If Toby comes in from ajax then willo should go or dare I say it saylor. If cabs goes debs might want to follow – time to scout quality rb’s again?

  • 8 Dekasalya // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    The question for the club is, if they won’t close the gap with Lyon and Gomis, and £3m is too much of a loan fee for Ba, what do they propose to do to bring in a striker?

    Pointless having Ba as a fall back option if the regime won’t meet the price.

    Still, doubtless JFK has thought of this already and won’t be caught short on 2 September.

  • 9 outsidethebox // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    my thoughts on last night
    dummet and good showed promise and could come thru..
    sammi although not his biggest fan i could see a cf in the abeybor mould when he puts some weight on he will be some handful….main thing was WHO is fat sam intending taking from toon now..????? cannot see him going to game without good reason

  • 10 Toon1978 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    We have waited so long to bring players I’m
    in we are becoming desperate and clubs like Chelsea know this. To little to late.

  • 11 martoon // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    As I remember Ba’s knee problem is a degenerative condition. So surely buying him for £3m more than we sold him for when his knee will be more of a risk does not make sense to me. Loan for £3m makes more sense but a bit steep. I’d still prefer to buy Gomis as I consider Remy to be a Ba replacement.

  • 12 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Eaststand, good comment about Marveaux, my thoughts exactly.

    He plays nice weighted short passes, but a lot of times when he received the ball nobody was coming short for him, so he was having to hold the ball for a bit longer, therefore at times he loses it as he’s not as strong as others. Players need to be played to their strengths.

    Quicker, shorter passing throughout the team with far better movement, plus Marveaux played behind the forwards in the centre and you will see a good player with an increase in assists.

    …but we don’t play like that.

    This not taking into account his confidence and rhythm of playing then being hauled off despite how he’s played and playing in a positive minded side, which we are not.

  • 13 Slank // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    dannyhunt @ 3

    The only problem with having Ba on loan as well as Remy on loan and hoping to get Gomis on a free next summer is that Ba and Remy may not stay and Gomis could pick and choose his next club and it might not be us.

    A difficult one but that is what JFK is paid for.

  • 14 Spreadthetoon // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    MA, JFK n AP have all acted with complete and utter contempt for our beloved club.

    Consider the transfer window closed. It’s gonna be another season where we will end up between 12-15th at best. In the worst scenario the unthinkable………..

  • 15 spitfire_ // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    I don’t want Ba back at Newcastle but what mean “Loan Fee Could Be Too Much For Demba Ba”… It’s not that we already paid 40 mill for transfers.

  • 16 richyg01 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Makes no sense to me.

    Pay £3M to loan him for a season, or pay £10M to buy him permanently.

    I would rather go back to QPR in January (after court case etc) and say, here you go, here’s £10M for Remy.

  • 17 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    I mentioned before the start of the game, that every outfield player for us has either been a full international of under 21 international.

    We should have been controlling the gane from the start. We just look lost, and yes, this is down to training, organisation and coaching. Much like our first team’s problems.

  • 18 geordiemark // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    we have had long enough to sort all these so called transfers out the truth is no ones coming in with the exception of cabaye going out thats it well until january that is when the teams rooted to the bottom of the league and ashley shits himself again, I wonder if mike ashley will have the balls to attend the match v fulham at the weekend hmmmm

  • 19 geordiemark // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    forget about ba it wont happen

  • 20 Mag52 // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Bearing in mind we’re a few days away from the transfer deadline.So far we have signed a sixteen year old and an unfit CF on loan, we’re desperate for a goal scorer, and bloggers are quibbling at £3 million for Ba for a year’s loan? What planet are you guys on?
    Of course we should jump at the chance to get this proven goal scorer back into NUFC. Even at this early stage of the season we’re looking for someone to save us from the big drop into the championship. This is the player who could just do that.

  • 21 lesh // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    This quest for a striker is becoming a farce.
    The window’s about to slam shut, the whole world and its mother know we need a striker(s), we’re over a barrel and clubs know it AND Kinnear and Ashley are still pi$$Ing about!

    As each day passes, the omnishambles that is Newcastle United is taking on mammoth proportions! And Kinnear can’t understand why the fans are upset? Incredible!
    A disgrace.

  • 22 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 29, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Where the hell are these figures coming from. … total bull….. This is just more made up sh#te.

    We are signing nobody.

    The idea is to make it as difficult as possible for Pardew. .. get him to walk and new manager gets to buy in Jan

  • 23 dcdick // Aug 29, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Pardew out !!!

  • 24 FrankfurtMag // Aug 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Whatever happened to the “ticking timebomb knee” drama? Now he is rated at 10m without any mention of the “ticking timebomb”.

  • 25 FrankfurtMag // Aug 29, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    The problem with this whole farce, is that clubs know we desperately need a striker. Agents and Clubs will shaft us and Fat Mike wont do that.

    Its another Stephane Guivarch just waiting to happen.

  • 26 lochinvar // Aug 29, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Problem with the loan fee is Wonga’s interest rate charges! You reap what you sow..




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