Deschamps Warning – Cabaye Decisions Have Consequences


Didier Deshcamps the France manager knows all about players going on strike, because that’s what happened back in the summer of 2010 when he was manager at Marseilles,  and  a certain bad-boy at the time, Hatem Ben Arfa went on strike  to try to force through a move to Newcastle, a famous club he was desperate to join (that sounds good).

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Didier Deschamps – power struggle is never good at a club

Deschamps was speaking at a press conference he gave yesterday before next week’s two World Cup qualifying games and this is some of what he said

“When you have a power struggle between a club and a player it’s never positive.” “These are extreme situations which happen all too frequently.”

“Clubs have the power because they hold the contracts.”  “Players are free to make good or bad decisions. All these decision can have consequences on the national team.”

It seems to us that Yohan has damaged his Intentional career a bit by taking the stand he has, and of course he will want to make the World Cup squad for next summer in Brazil.

But with Arsenal not returning (yet) with a second bid, it could be that the London club l have already given up on him, and now we will need to wait to see if PSG will put in a late bid.

But it gets harder for Newcastle to sell, the later it gets in the transfer window, because it will be very difficult to replace Cabaye with someone of his class.

We hope this affair is over and while Yohan may not start tomorrow – Sissoko and Abita played very well last SDaturday against West Ham in central midfield – he will get on at some point in the second half of the game – if he starts on the bench.

Should Newcastle Fans Support Yohan Cabaye Tomorrow?

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39 comments so far

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #1

    Dammit Ed!
    Ibiza
    For me it’s a grey area
    Someone on the previous thread mentioned we should support him like manure supported Rooney, that’s a fair comment IF cabaye responds like Rooney did
    I’m sure the crowd will be right behind him for the first 20-25 mins but if after that he hasn’t got into the game, looks uninterested, petulant attitude or anything like that I think the support could quickly dwindle tbf

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  • Spoof

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #2

    From previous thread

    What mistake has Cabaye made, as far as I am aware there has been no fine issued so you can be sure that this refusing to play view is false because if it were true then he would have been fined and we would have known about it, so if as I suspect he has been with drawn by the club to protect there investment ahead of a possible big money transfer then he has done nothing wrong, yes he may want to go, but can you blame him, would you want to play for this pathetic excuse for a football club, Ashley’s running of the club has not only let us the fans down, it has also let the players down, so how can we possibly say that it is a mistake which Cabaye has made.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #3

    clubs don’t hold all the power though

    get many players who go to clubs and then refuse to leave as they are happy to pick up 100k a week sitting on the bench or in the reserves.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #4

    Tads…Spot on, I should have covered that point too. If he doesn’t want to put in a performance I’d prefer he refused to play. We need help right now, if someone isn’t going to fight for the cause then don’t put on the jersey.

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  • leeb1982

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #5

    f anita gets dropped for him its a disgrace. how must he feel. quite a few times last season he was our best player but never got a run in the team. cabaye spits his dummy and refuses to play and anita gets a chance. now cabaye realises that by not playing hes lost his international place and all of sudden hes available to us again. b@llocks leave him out fine him and keep anita in the 11

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #6

    If he plays and Anita doesn’t that is a bit shit in my book.
    also
    If Ashley wants to make money by buying and selling why not buy Redmond for that small fee Norwich paid and same with Ince and Will Hughes ? One good season in the premiership from these 3 being English would automatically double their value …. its a no brainer for me – can only hope this hughes and Ince are part of this Transfer deadline plan that chronicle was on about few days ago , somehow I doubt it

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  • PAULNUFC

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #7

    If he refused to play or not dose not matter .whats clear is he wants out ov nufc. I cant support that.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #8

    It’s hard to say what’s happened, if he had of been told not to play then surely he would have defended himself at least in private to the French manager, but the murky and deceitful way mashley operates we can’t put anything past him.

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  • Spoof

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #9

    Ed, what are you talking about, what stance has Cabaye made, its all press speculation which the club will allow to continue as it defects the fact that they were protecting their interest by not playing him, why are people so keen on taking the side of this bunch of money grabbing proven liars ahead of a player who was desperately trying to attract decent players to join us, don’t forget the way he tried and succeeded in getting Debuchy, Mbiwa and Sissoko to join us, so why after helping to bring in some of his best friends would he then go on strike, the people who run our club are vulgar and it would be no surprise at all if he was wanting to play but was stopped from doing so, the problem is he is contracted to these vulgar people so he can’t tell us the truth can he, and as we know the club won’t tell us the truth, the only time we get the truth from that vulgar lot is when they proven to be liars when their lies have taken them to court.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #10

    Ibiza
    Agree mate, also think it would be wrong to just drop Anita, the lads played his guts out against west ham
    Unfortunately, who ever’s decision it’s been for cabaye not to play ie the club, pardew or cabaye simply refusing a situation has been created for no reason, he should of been playing all along regardless of a bid

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  • SuperShearer

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #11

    It’s hard not to admire what Deschamps is saying here. He’s trying to give the power back to the clubs who pay the wages rather than the players. It’s becoming clear Cabaye refused to play, AP hasn’t said as much but he’s certainly insinuated it. You don’t see Baines, Rooney or Fellaini doing that. Keep playing, show potential suitors why you’re worth what your current club is demanding.

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  • MacToon

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #12

    Jail, the fansutd meeting is at the Irish Centre this Wednesday (04/09) from 6.30.

    Must go, hope you catch my reply.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #13

    Spoof
    Calm down mate, the assumptions are being made based on pardews comments, who is in more contact with cabs and his agents than either of us, and deschamps comments who once again is in more contact with him than us
    I’m not saying he as refused but the comments being made certainly suggest its the case

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  • DevonToon

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #14

    Have a read of the chronicle its got a joke section called pardew heaps praise on debuchy! Here is a paragraph…. The tough-tackling, all-attacking right-back is quickly winning a place in the hearts of United fans after recovering from his opening-day shocker against Man City with a couple of solid performances.

    Hes not won me over yet! Although I am confident he will

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  • cestriasteve

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #15

    Did anyone see Arsenal beating Fulham on the counter attack last weekend, hope Pardew did because I cant see us beating Fulham with his current system.

    Surely we shouldnt play Cabaye until after the window closes.

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  • Tinman

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #16

    ‘Forgive us of our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us.’

    Yohan will be forgiven if he gives 100% from now.

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  • Spoof

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #17

    Supershearer

    so why has there been no fine, and if the club can insinuate that the fault was Cabaye’s then they will, deflect the blame from themselves, and lets face it, Cabaye is contracted to the club so he can’t come out and tell us can he, he would have been told in no uncertain terms to keep his trap shut, the fact that the club are not risking defamation of character by stating that he did refuse to play says it all to me, I find it amazing how so many instantly jump on the side of the vulgar, manipulative proven liars who run the club.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #18

    Usually I would say cabaye has to work his way back into the team…but other than anita no players has really made much of a claim for a starting spot in midfield….so maybe cabaye will come right back in.

    Also we could almost field a fully french side if we wanted.

    debuchy, mbiwa, haidara
    ben arfa, cabs, sissoko, marv
    remy, gouff

    Just 2 players off….to me that’s not a good thing.

    If you think the best club sides would beat the best national side (as clubs gets the best players from all nations, not limited) (even spain is barca just without messi)

    And a club of our level wouldn’t be able to get the best 11 from the best nation then we need to spread further afield to get our players I feel.

    How far would the french fringe players (and cabaye) and those not even in the national side actually fair in the league? not too well.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #19

    Spoof
    How do you now the club haven’t fined him?

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #20

    I’v voted no.

    Once you refuse to play that is it for me especially in the circumstances so close to the season and preperations. He could of made the difference against West Ham. You just don’t know.

    Selfish and badly advised. I hope he has been fined.

    Like all the pundits, I’v never known anything like it. He has tried to force a move and has shown his true feelings for NUFC. I’v got no problem showing mine right now towards him.

    I won’t be booing or cheering him on. He is a neutral player on the field for me. That is all.

    I’ll be willing us forward if he is on the park or not. The lad has no support from me though. As far as im concerned he’s finished at the Toon.

    HTL.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #21

    prodigy

    Everyone makes mistakes, poor judgement etc. If that’s true he refused then he should apologise if he stays.

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  • numba9

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #22

    Ince is not a premier player and def not worth the money his big head father thinks he is

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #23

    If he wanted away, fair enough, under our current clueless tactics I don’t blame him, however he should stay play and earn his money in the time being.

    To not play, if that is true, I don’t want him anywhere near our team. In no way should he be ahead of anita either after he had a decent game last week. More shocking decisions by Pardew if that is the case.

    Same was happening when Pardew was pandering to Ba which forced Cisse out on the wing, only for Ba to leave anyway. Which goes against a working system of 3 up front with Cisse up front the previous year. Pardew swamp for brains.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #24

    Transfer,

    For me it’s unforgivable.

    He knows how important he is to this team. He knew the timing of it, it’s ridiculous really. To just make yourself unavailable is shocking, not just once either. He is vice captain, and has been made captain on numerous occasions of this football club.

    It’s just not good enough, and it’s not as if we can give him the benefit of being young.

    He’s put himself in a very sticky situation here with the Toon fans.

    It would have to be some grovelling apology I know that much.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #25

    Ffs apparantly Barnetta is leaving Shalcke for bloody palace!!!!

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  • stan anderson

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #26

    Just watched the Video from earlier,brought a tear to my eye and a lump to my throat.Thats the love thing aint it

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  • Spoof

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #27

    tads

    I won’t calm down m8, the devious vulgar twats are at it again, lets suppose he has refused to play, but lets look at it from his point of view, he joined us and we finished 5th, the club f-ck up big style last summer but admit their mistake and promise that it will not happen again, and on the back of that promise he does all he can to get what he feels are top class players to join us in January which they do, and then what happens he is made to look a fool because last summer’s f-ck up is happening again, its not just us fans who are being let down by the club, its the players as well, can you blame him for wanting to be out, but what is happening now, the club are hiding a disasterous summer behind this Cabaye issue, so what happens on Saturday, some will boo Cabaye and some won’t, but the club will be delighted with that because we will not get the “you fat cockney bastard get out of our club” chant, which is all we should be getting, as I said the sly vulgar devious bastards are turning the shit onto someone else to hide their incompetence, so no I won’t f-cking calm down, they are boiling my f-cking pi$$.

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  • Blofal

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #28

    Give him a cheer and chant his name. Remind him why he would be a fool to ever leave the Toon. Then hold up a banner telling him if he wants to play champions league football to help us get there.

    Don’t begrudge him for wanting to leave, he only wants to because the club has shown its not on track to get to Europe. Because management has deemed the status quo and mediocrity acceptable at this club.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #29

    Spoof,

    As much as upstairs are to blame for where the club is right now, and I whole heartedly agree with your sentiments about the players being livid with our lack of ambition.

    Cabaye is a professional footballer under contract at NUFC.

    You can’t just pick and choose when you want to play. He is paid a hell of alot of money to represent this football club and he is high up within the ranks of the squad.

    Quite simply, it’s another embarrasment we didn’t need.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #30

    You play until a bid has been accepted and you are sold.

    This is the way I see it.

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  • Thump

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #31

    “Should fans support Cabaye” is probably one of the most ridiculous questions asked on this blog. Sorry, Ed, but if they’re playing in black and white, they should be supported. Plain and simple.

    A lad on here mentioned something about booing his name on the team sheet and then applauding him every time he touched the ball. Good idea. Let him know how we feel. No point further alienating the lad.

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  • bishopblaize

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #32

    Only if his mind is on the game! He will need all the fans behind him to develop his form. Only the manager and team mates can help him create what we expect tomorrow .. No less than a win to save the day!

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  • Spoof

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #33

    TP

    I’m not going to say your wrong for the simple reason your not, you are dead right, but we don’t know if he did or didn’t refuse to play, all we know is that the club are trying to give the impression that he did refuse without actually saying the simple words of, “Yohan Cabaye refused to play” thats all they need to say, the fact that they haven’t said that and the fact that no fine has been made public gives me the distinct impression that we could be jumping to the wrong conclusion, afterall when it comes to conduct the club have a very poor record. Innocent till proven guilty does not seem to be getting applied here, to me it appears as if an impression which is being given by a club who have an atrocious record when dealing with their own staff is sufficient to get the fans on the back of one of our players, to me that is wrong.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #34

    He is a bit of a big baby Cabaye, it’s got to be said.

    If it’s bad and gets too much for him, I wouldn’t be surprised if he walked off the park. Or shouts to Pardew to hook him.

    I don’t think he can stay here now.

    To be totally honest, I think this is all part of his ploy to force himself away. It’s the worst possible thing he could of did to hurt the club and fans. This situation could become untenable. I really think so.

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  • Scottiedog

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #35

    I for one will Support Cabaye as jeering him will only upset the team, however do we really need his sort here?? Do we need huffy prima donnas that give up at the first sign of losing?? NO!! We need Nolans & Bartons that actually give a Sh*t and want to fight back re- Arsenal a few years ago!!

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  • theartfuldodger

    Aug 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #36

    Pardew spouting more crap. He just doesent make sense. Agents cant stop a player frm playing.

    Whatever happened was just plain stupid.It was too early -just 1 ridiculous bid for Ashley to stop him from playing or for him to refuse to play.
    Everyone made to look like fools.

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  • Quasimodo's tailor

    Aug 30, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #37

    @Spoof – “Innocent until proven guilty”? Then using your argument, that should apply to the club as well as Cabaye.

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  • Sav

    Aug 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #38

    Geordies will forgive but we aren’t going to be mugs. If Cab plays, that should be the end of the transfer. We want to know are not supporting him while providing a shop window. If he plays, he stays. Arsenal, PSG and any other club are leaving it too late. The club need to declare that, too, and it would be good if Mashley, via JFK, would come out and assert it. It is getting too close to the deadline to replace him now and there comes a point when even 20 million would not repair the damage to our season if major players are snatched away at the eleventh hour.

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  • peaco1980

    Aug 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #39

    ASSUMING that he has genuinely refused to play, and it isn’t one of Ashley’s lies (let’s face it the Fat barsteward has plenty of form when it comes to feeding the press B/Sh*t stories about people) then yes – when he is wearing the shirt and on the pitch of course we have to support him, we’re the best fans in the world.

    Off the pitch when he’s (allegedly) treating us (who pay his wages) like sh*te then we’ve every write to slate him!

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