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Here’s A Thought – What’s Joe Kinnear Up To These Days?

10:57 am, Friday, August 30th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 42 Comments

We never through it would get this late in the transfer window before Newcastle made their first permanent striker signing,  and it seems Newcastle are back in talks with Lyon over the potential Bafetimbi Gomis transfer, and maybe we are still trying to get Demba Ba from Chelsea – but it will be difficult to get Ba back on Tyneside for the coming season.

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Joe Kinnear – negotiating for Bafe Gomis

We’ve trolled through the French press this morning,  and there’s absolutely nothing on the Newcastle negotiations with Lyon to get Gomis on Tyneside.

SAnd there’s  some new news today that Demba Ba may even stay at Chelsea and fight for his place, but with Jose Mourinho making it clear he is not his type of striker, that may not be a good idea.

Serie A club Roma have come in for the player,  and we have a sneaking suspicion the Senegal International could be playing in Italy this  coming season.

So we are just hoping that Joe Kinnear and his team are in overdrive over the next three days,  to bring some players to Tyneside – and the acquisition of Gomis would be great.

Gomis and Demba Ba would be even better – but there’s just no way this current regime will do that – because unfortunately – very unfortunately as it turns out – it seems the ambitions if Mike Ashley only extend to keeping Newcastle as a top ten side and avoiding relegation. :(

For a wonderful and prestigious club like Newcastle United – that’s simply not good enough.

But to end on a more positive note, and in the hope we can get Bafe to Tyneside soon, here are some of Gomis’ more memorable goals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEiCkrpWUDU

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42 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Ah groundhog day !!

  • 2 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Talks have ended between newcastle and gomis as salary could not be agreed. Talks have also ended between newcastle and chelsea over a possible loan deal for demba ba. The player himself has told chelsea that he is willing to go out on loan, however only to a club competing in european competition this season. It is believed that arsenal are among favourites to acquire the services of ba for the season. Sources also state that demba ba wasn’t too keen on a move back to newcastle due to the current backroom affairs at the club with the appointment of joe kinnear.

    Newcastle’s business in this window is now over, with it barely starting. Kinnear and Ashley early today held a meeting with pardew to explain the efforts they have made to bring in reinforcements however it just wasn’t to be. The current 23 man squad will be the squad that represents newcastle in the premier league up until atleast january.

    The yohan cabaye saga has ended soon after it started aswell. Arsenal have moved on from cabaye assessing options elsewhere. Spurs were believed to have enquired about yohan cabaye, however the £17m asking price and £65,000 a week wage demands were far to much for Daniel levy and co. to even consider.

    West ham could make a late enquiry for dan gosling on a season long loan, with birmingham also weighing up sammy ameobi as a loan target. However transfer business seems to been done and dusted at st James park, for the time being

  • 3 Rainrix // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Pub obviously. Or was that rhetorical? ah its probably the truth anyway.

  • 4 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Watching the game the other night, a few things became apparent. Our players are overrated, our tactics are woeful, no one can pass the ball, we have no plan in the final third, no movement, to rigid, long balls down each flank or through the middle. That is our game plan. Debuchy does look out his depth, even against morecambe, mbiwa looked poor, bigi was poor, gouffran was poor, none of our players with these tactics are good enough for the premier league. Sorry to say it but we are going down this year unless the whole style of play is re-worked.

  • 5 theartfuldodger // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Kinnear got remy, said Mission Accomplished and went to sleep asking someone to call him if
    1. Cabaye is sold
    2. Gomis asks less wages, agents ask less
    3. Pardew is sacked
    4. If its party time on Ashleys boat

  • 6 Wiz // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    The ambitions of Mike Ashley only extend to us being a top ten side and avoiding relegation in any event, that is true, but that is not because Ashley is an unambitious chap. I think he would love to be in charge of a club that was qualifying for the Champions’ League and go down the Quayside on a Friday night and buy drinks for his customers. But this won’t happen, because the amount of investment required would not buy Ashley the thrill of the bet that he is currently engaged in – that is, not spending anything and seeing if we stay up, which will prove how clever he is. Ashley is the club owner to bet on a wholly new and cheap way of running a football club. This is a big thrill for him, and rubbish for everyone else. He was very nearly proven wrong last season, but this season he is once again dying to prove to everyone he was right.

  • 7 woolerbill // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    KINNEAR
    Joe is moving house, getting ready to take over from Par dew later this month.
    BA
    Will sit on the bench to get the big bucks he left us for.
    We the fan can say what we want but there is nobody at the club that will listen. I fear for the future of nufc.

  • 8 Wiz // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Rotonda heights – I have no idea if that is a reference to your home in Birmingham, Rotonda, but you seem impressively well informed. Was Ashley in town with Kinnear and Pardew, or was he on the end of a phone line? I wonder how Pardew took the news? He is cynical enough to have been expecting it. What do they think will happen if Cisse is injured, suspended, or stops trying?

  • 9 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    You are forgetting one thing about us picking teams for the weekend

    Under Pardew we will be 442 again because Shola will defo get a start especially for his heroics against the mighty

    What he does not understand is against Teams like Fulham you want to flood the midfield and then counter attack which is how Arsenal destroyed them last week we have the quick players to play that kind of game when you just play 2 players in the middle we get outnumbered it happens every week and thats one of the reasons we end up needing to hoof it also lack of movement but I think that may be a confidence thing especially for our defenders as the 1st hint of danger and we pass it back to Krul

    And another thing stop letting Krul take the free kicks sick of him passing it to no one!!!

  • 10 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Afay

    That’s the whole point, the tactics being employed by a sub par manager are making these players look awful when they really aren’t.

    Pardew has successfully managed to deflect blame elsewhere but in truth we have quite a big squad and reportedly the 7th most expensive in the PL.

    Krul

    Debs Colo M’Biwa Santon

    Sissoko Cabs? Anita

    Ben Arfa Cisse Remy

    is not bad team in any one’s book. Add to that your Tiote’s, Marveauxs, Gouffrans, Haidara’s etc etc and Pardew should just stop whining and start using modern tactics to showcase the team’s abilities, not forever play them in straitjackets.

  • 11 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Rotonda

    I’m not sure if they would allow Gosling to go anywhere at the minute, if Cabaye does go which due to Arsenal now looking elsewhere seems unlikely, but still possible then we would need someone to fill his role, the chances of us buying seem remote so it could be that Gosling could be earmarked as Cabaye’s replacement.

  • 12 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Wiz

    Sadly I am not ITK, I just got it off Newcastle rumours.
    I would say it’s someone making some educated guesses and probably isn’t too wide of the mark with any of them .

  • 13 Ben3arfa // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    If Kinnear doesnt sign any players then he deserves to just die on deadline day.

    old dinosaur

  • 14 jeff // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    No one reads these articles just like no one reads ruddys posts

    Articles without content reguritating nonsense are annoying

  • 15 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Ben3arfa

    I don’t know about him dying but he is bloody killing us ?

  • 16 We are the mags // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    I was just about to ask where you got the info from rotonda, don’t know if its true but if i were to make a guess i would proberely think its not far from the truth lets just hope remy comes good for us please god!

  • 17 cockneymafiaout // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    avoiding relegation AND top 10?

    Trust me Ashley will be satisfied if we finish 17th every year

  • 18 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Rotonda . i agree its a half decent side with some decent enough players. i am a qualified FA coach and what pardew employs is below basic, i wouldnt have a kids side using those tactics. they are to easy to play against, even morecambe flooded our midfield, nullified any threat we have and commanded the ball. If we carry on being one dimensional, and badly one dimensional, we are going down this year.
    Your spot on, the entire structure of the club is a shambles from junior through to 1st team. I was willing to give pardew another chance after last year, but already its plain to see nothing has changed, pattern of play is from the 80′s, no movement, no threat, no midfield, no ball retention, all makes it to easy for other teams to rip us apart.

    I agree entirely with you

  • 19 Black and White Blood // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    I’d be tempted to give Sammy a run in a 4-4-2

    Krul

    Santon – Colo – Yanga-Mbiwa – Dummett

    Ben Arfa – Cabaye – Sissoko – Sammy

    Remy – Cissé

  • 20 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    cockney

    not only would he be satisfied he would be delighted with 17th every season, he would have to pay out more win bonuses if we finished higher lol

  • 21 magicbus // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Joke in ear doing sweet f@ck all useless old fart

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    afay

    Well put. Even a non qualified coach can see that what we currently do is not effective.

    No we all might have different views on how to put it right and how we would set the team up differently. But we can basically all agree that something different needs to be tried.

  • 23 Ted Bundy // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    I think total silence would be the correct way to greet Cabaye’s name over the PA, tomorrow, should he play, although if I was there and had to fall down on either side, I’d be booing him with both barrels.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    i just want a 433

    debs, mbiwa, colo, santon
    anita, cabs, sissoko
    hba, cisse, remy

  • 25 geoff777 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    I’m not really sure what people think JFK does.
    I think he makes the phone calls and bids whatever Ashley has told him to.

    Which means he’s not really responsible for transfers but is just there to take the flak that should really be aimed at Ashley.

  • 26 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    With regards to the previous post – debuchy has had a few stinkers in his time here. But I can’t help thinking that the fourth goal, however ineptly handled by debs, could have been prevented had yanga been at his post. Why was there such a massive gap between colo and debs for nasri to slip into?

  • 27 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Afay

    I got my UEFA B part 1 and have done Coerver, Futebol de Salao coaching and have also spent some time with the French football federation and I can not believe how poor we are and this can only come from some very out moded and extremely dated coaching methods.

    There is just no pass and move, no one-twos, no triangles, no one going beyond the man with the ball etc etc. We must be the most static team in the division. Even Morecambe out passed us at times!

    last season pardew was so arrogant he closed off public training sessions, not realising that every other PL manager knows his one tactic!!

    I would love to see the content of a Pardew training session compared to a Barca, Chelsea, city, united etc session. No wonder even from the horses mouth, Jonas said they were poor.

  • 28 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    As i see it from last year and through to now our tactic is plainly this. Full backs to knock ball down the wing hoping for wide player to get control of or forward to knock down. its percentage play. Midfield is totally flat and is used only as a defensive option. Forwards are there for knock downs. thats our game plan, no pass and move, its a pure rigid long ball percentage game plan. And that does one thing, negates the entire midfield, negates any creativity in the final third, were reliant on pot luck and 50-50 situations to win the ball and hope that the knock down/flick lands with one of our players. If you watch the non league or sunday league these are the tactics that are played, not in the premier league! its awful football and it doesnt work.

  • 29 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    geoff

    Exactly. There was always talk lee charney did a lot of negotiations on players deals and he is still there as far as I know.

    Not sure what JFK does except maybe talk with pardew and graham carr, as well as do some reasonable work of his own in scouting/forging links with clubs.

    I highly doubt he is given control of finances to bid for players, and very much doubt he is given free reign over a blank check.

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Sage

    snap

  • 31 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    afay77

    as a qualified FA coach surely you can see that what is desperate is a strong hold the ball up centre forward, second half against Morcambe Shola came on and held the ball up which brought the midfield higher up the pitch and allowed the fullbacks to venture forward as well, we were a different side in the second half, the problem we have is that Shola may be able to do it against Morcambe but he isn’t good enough to do it in the PL, this is why I would happily have Ba back, because he can do it in the prem, Cisse is not that type of striker so we will continue to struggle.

    Lasr summer Pardew was wanting de Jong, this summer he has wanted either Carroll, Ba, Gomis or Gignac, they are all strikers who can hold the ball up and bring others into play, we haven’t succeeded in getting any of them, now if Pardew wants but Ashley and Kinnear fail to get the type of striker which Pardew needs is it fair to blame tactics, if he hasn’t got the personnel to to the job, how is he supposed to get the job done.

  • 32 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Rotonda

    You are far more qualified than me in that regard and what you have said is spot on. We dont even do the basics, pardews tactics are what you would show someone who has never heard of football before. its woeful football and coaching of the very lowest level, its the sort of plan i would expect to see on a sunday morning pub league and even then im doing pub players a diservice

  • 33 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    I still think deep down Ashley is trying to force Pardew out and get another manager in

    Why would you want to give Pardew anymore money ? The squad we have should be comfortable in mid table with the players we have in fact with maybe better training and coaching they could maybe achieve more than that ?

    Not playing players in their correct positions and other stupid tactics has ruined the confidence of the squad

    He still has not figured out how to counter teams who press us high up the field we have no plan for that except launch it and park the bus and hope we dont get pumped we even done the same against Morecambe

    The whole Cabaye/Transfer window saga has deflected attention from how useless Pardew actually is

  • 34 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    spoof

    You have a point there with out doubt and i agree in that regard. What i believe is that even with a quality forward who can hold the ball up, all your doing is giving the opposition the chance to win it back. Football is played on grass so why kick the ball in the air? an effective team will play as a team and use all the players within that and if you have the ball the other team cannot score. My main issue is that all our attacking is based upon percentage balls lumped forward, its easy to defend, doesnt give you control or the ability to spot gaps and makes your attacks less effective. granted a forward who can hold the ball up when required is useful without doubt but do you honestly think that pardew has the ability to utilise and make any players play in a controlled pass and move way? i think this is the limit of pardews talents, even when we finished 5th i thought our tactics and play were quite poor

  • 35 Sav // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    What about even JFK’s sales? – Pathetic. I thought he was going to clear out the deadwood? He flogged Perch and Simpson, two experienced Prem performers and kept Obertan and Amalfitano and Tavernier. There was talk Williamson was leaving, too but with only Good emerging we could do with one tall, strong CB. on the books. I’m amazed at the slagging of Pardew when the bloke has to work under these circumstances. Direct your ire where it is most deserved – Mashley and JFK. I fear we may be counting on some of that so-called deadwood’ such as Gosling before too long.

  • 36 Sav // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    We are so desperate for a signing – any signing – nobody is even asking any more if Gomis is any good or not. Lets hope Remy comes good and doesn’t get banged-up for off-field matters before Xmas.
    Alex Ferguson?? The only number Joe needs on his phone these days is 999. Emergency Rescue.

  • 37 jokinoot // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Times up u fat b?st?d

  • 38 sticklebricks // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Busy moving house…

  • 39 jokinoot // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Will get lost hope outer Hebrides

  • 40 jokinoot // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Signing 2 players Warwick Hunt and Khan T Bearsed

  • 41 lochinvar // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    What’s Joe Kinnear Up To These Days?
    Film Titles are a good answer…….
    Gone With the Wind
    Walkabout
    One Flew over the Magpies ( Cuckoo’s ) nest !
    and then some …
    All Quiet on the Westgate Road ( Western ) Front
    JK (ET) The Extra Terrestial – phone home !
    Get Gomis (Carter)
    The French Connection
    The Full Geordie (Monty)
    The Lonliness of the Long Distance Supporter ( Runner )

    Anymore ideas out there ?

  • 42 usmagpie // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Hey Ed and fellow Geordies.
    I’m still lost for words on this summer bull “beep”, there are plenty of strikers out there to good sitting on bench’s and we have not even had a sniff at any of them. Cisse looks lost up front on his own, its a lot of pressure being asked to do your job and score goals with a defensive team put out on the pitch. Alan needs to go for broke and try and get the attacking part of our game back the club has lost sight of that. We are to defensive at the moment which gives teams the option of pushing us back and hitting our goal for 90 minutes, no wonder we are not scoring any goals the ball is stuck in our half of the pitch and the net. Remember the old days guys with Wads and Beardo and the attacking flair of Tino and Shearer, the wizardry of Ginola and Solano, WHAT THE BLEEP HAPPENED? I would honestly prefer to win 3-2 5-3 4-2 4-3 2-1 6-3 every game and not lose 0-4 0-6 0-5. I honestly don’t see any thing good for us this year, we are a joke at the moment in the premiership and can see us back to the Championship this year. Don’t want that to happen of course but odds are we are going back there. As soon as JK was given the job it felt like the end for Newcastle United. I pray to god before every game that things will start to click and happen, but so far my prays are not being listened too. Its a sad day when before every game I ask myself, what are we going to get beat by this game and not like the old days how many are we going to score today.




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