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One Of These Three Strikers Arriving At Newcastle Soon?

11:38 am, Friday, August 30th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 207 Comments

Lyon’s Bafetimbi Gomis is still probably Newcastle’s first choice in the transfer window, and we are supposed to be  negotiations for him and according to Sky Tyne and Wear his wages are the stumbling block- and Newcastle will not raise their current wage offer – so again if this is true – we seem to be in another stalemate – why do Newcastle seem to have huge difficulties getting players into the club?

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Bafe Gomis – wages are the problem

And if we cannot get Gomis through the door before next Tuesday rolls around Demba Ba could be an alternative but we don’t think he will come back to Newcastle.

So if Newcastle fail with those two strikers it seems out next choice could be Marseilles’ winger/striker Andre Ayew, and there was news in the Times earlier this week that Newcastle had lodged a bid for for around £7M.

But as usual it seems that the selling club – Marseilles – are said to want around £10M for the 23 year-old, who has been capped 43 times for Ghana and scored 13 times in 45 games for Marseilles last term – and looks a very decent player.

So it’s a very dodgy time for Newcastle fans at the moment, and the very least we need to see before next Tuesday, is a top striker coming though the door, but things are being left very late – and that’s a huge concern.

And now for something completely different – as the Monty Python crew used to say – way back when.

Here’s a video we saw yesterday that was made just two weeks ago – and bear in mind Madeline and I have a daughter called Elaine, who has her own very successful makeup business.

She seems a confident girl. :D

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207 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM


    as a qualified FA coach surely you can see that what is desperate is a strong hold the ball up centre forward, second half against Morcambe Shola came on and held the ball up which brought the midfield higher up the pitch and allowed the fullbacks to venture forward as well, we were a different side in the second half, the problem we have is that Shola may be able to do it against Morcambe but he isn’t good enough to do it in the PL, this is why I would happily have Ba back, because he can do it in the prem, Cisse is not that type of striker so we will continue to struggle.

    Lasr summer Pardew was wanting de Jong, this summer he has wanted either Carroll, Ba, Gomis or Gignac, they are all strikers who can hold the ball up and bring others into play, we haven’t succeeded in getting any of them, now if Pardew wants but Ashley and Kinnear fail to get the type of striker which Pardew needs is it fair to blame tactics, if he hasn’t got the personnel to to the job, how is he supposed to get the job done.

  • 2 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    just get somebody in


    More than one way to get the midfield involved than using a hold up player though. We don’t have a good hold up player so must find a better way.

    I’d say we need cisse high up the pitch but allow players either side to run past him and stretch the play, giving him and a more advanced midfielder more room to operate in.

    I’d have remy and hba either side, both move well and can score goals. Get cabaye or marv behind to assist with picking passes and gives cisse and option to lay it off to them. Them sissoko and anita both hold but get forward when the time is right and if there is cover behind…either midfielders get forward to support or the fullbacks do…just take turns depending on the situation/game.

  • 3 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    I still think deep down Ashley is trying to force Pardew out and get another manager in

    Why would you want to give Pardew anymore money ? The squad we have should be comfortable in mid table with the players we have in fact with maybe better training and coaching they could maybe achieve more than that ?

    Not playing players in their correct positions and other stupid tactics has ruined the confidence of the squad

    He still has not figured out how to counter teams who press us high up the field we have no plan for that except launch it and park the bus and hope we dont get pumped we even done the same against Morecambe

    The whole Cabaye/Transfer window saga has deflected attention from how useless Pardew actually is

  • 4 wolfshead@toon // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    pmsl @ ppl on here saying they find supporting the toon tough and depressing i bet those kids that were napalmed in syria by their own govt yesterday would happily trade places with them

  • 5 Jail for Ashley // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Love your posts, they boil my fuskin pi$$ too !

  • 6 gfp13 // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    We have a good 11 who with the right tactics can easily get top half. Our 2 centre backs are both ball playing defenders yet we look long. But at the same time tiote seems to be given more of a role, he needs to go back to tackle and then pass. He should get it and look to cabaye who can then dictate play. Keeping the ball on the floor is the way forward as long as cisse stays away from the play and just gets on the end of stuff in the box. We also have a lot of pace to catch teams on the counter.
    Debuchy MYM colo santon
    Sissoko tiote
    Ben arfa sissoko remy
    And that’s without anyone brought in. If we get gomis and ayew in that would only help too

  • 7 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    The players move roles so much they seem rudderless and clueless as to their role. Gouffran played his first game as the main striker t’other day but how many times did we see him drift out wide with the ball only to find there was no one in the box to cross to.

  • 8 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM


    Those sort of news stories certainly put us quibbling over an extra striker really into perspective.

  • 9 SuperShearer // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    @santonthenewmaldini think you’re spot on sir. MA wanted AP out after the disappointment of last season but doesn’t know how to fire him without paying a huge compensation package due to the stupidly long contract he gave AP. His tactic seems to be one of undermining AP at every corner in the hope he’ll quit. He won’t, he knows he’s due a massive pay-off if he sticks with it and he knows that he’ll unlikely get as big a job as this in the future. Therefore we’re made to suffer as the owner refuses to budge and the manager plays poor football.

  • 10 JaxtheMag // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    we will only buy if we sell, coz arsenal bid for cabaye we were then linked with players again, now its all gone quite.

  • 11 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM


    you say we don’t go beyond the man with the ball, given a chance Ben Arfa and even Sammy will do exactly that, yet others such as Marveaux don’t or should I say won’t, what both yourself and Afay have said about what happens on the pitch, I totally agree with both of you, but I believe is due to a lack of ability rather than poor tactics, if you read post no 1 about a centre forward and look at the difference which Sammy made when he replaced Marveaux against West Ham where Sammy at least ran at them and caused problems then you have to admit that the biggest problem has got to be a lack of playing ability, could Pardew do better with what he has, yes I think he could and should, but for me it’s the personnel which are the biggest problem.

  • 12 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM


    Come on mate, seriously? I’m sure the terms depression etc are thrown around lightly, the two situations between newcastle’s plight and the disasters in Syria in incomparable. Why bring that up at all?

  • 13 Belfast // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Think I’ve just accepted we’re signing nobody now.

    This whole window has been smoke and mirrors, low bids and wages we’re never going to pay.

    I really hope this is due to the fact Ashley is selling up and ferking off.

  • 14 jayphoto // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    @4 – to be fair this is a football blog! Ive no doubt every poster on here (with the exception of kets who lives in cloud cuckoo land) understands there are bigger things in the world than football, just this is a blog created to chat about all things Toon, ive no problem people asking where the money is or what does kinnear do! It doesnt take away from the seriousness of world issues that are being discussed across millions of other blogs

  • 15 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM


    And can see why Ashley would want to do this but I dont understand why Pardew does not say to himself “These guys want to sack me so I should make it difficult for them by putting out an entertaining team and win some games with a style that the fans will love ” Would make it hard for Ashley to sack him if we are climbing high up the table would it not ? In fact if we were doing well Ashley would maybe not want to get rid of him?

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM


    I think it’s more to say that people are getting very agitated on here and saying all sorts when put into context with global events it’s something we shouldn’t be getting so angry over.

  • 17 moonraker // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Just get someone in! Anyone FFS! now I see Sinclair is going on loan to WBA ! How come it’s so freakin difficult for us? time was when players would WALK to Newcastle to sign!
    I would love to know wtf is going on there but something is seriously wrong – apart from the obvious ie Pardew and JFK :-(

  • 18 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Every player in our first team earns tens of thousand pounds a week, so what your saying is its down to lack of ability to pass the ball from one to the other and keep it as well as make runs? im sure that all our players have this capability (they hide it well granted). Its tactics, its clear as day the minute the full backs have the ball its head down long ball down the line, midfield or centre back long ball looking for the centre forward. it doesnt work in this day and age. the tactics we have are pitiful and our midfielders are pretty much redundant. you can teach school kids to pass and move and keep the ball

  • 19 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Gomis, BA hell NO, Ayew hell YES

  • 20 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:07 PM


    yes obviously there is more than one way, and the way you described is how Pardew played it when we came 5th with Benny and Ba on either side of Cisse, but again it comes down to personnel, Gouffran and Marveaux imo are not good enough, and in fairness he hasn’t had that chance with Remy due to injury, personally I feel that Pardew was wanting Remy and a target man so he had the option of adapting the style to who he had available, without Remy use the target man option, with Remy use the 4-3-3 with Remy and Benny on either side of Cisse, but so far we have not had the target man so that option’s gone, and we have not had Remy either so that option’s also gone, as a result like Rotonda quite rightly said we have became predictable and made it too easy for opposing defences, but is that tactics or is that due to limitations because of who he has to pick from, in fairness to Pardew he has been cryingout for a stronger and deeper squad.

  • 21 moonraker // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Re previous posts about world events and tragedies! with respect this is a football blog. if you wanna discuss Syria go on an appropriate blog !

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM


    Well said….I agree sometimes out football problems need to be put into context when people talk too strongly about it but in general this is a place to talk about football with passion, positively or negatively.

  • 23 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    also if we did put a bid in for Ayew he still won’t come to Newcastle simply because MA won’t give him high wages and i think he’s on 50-60k a week but i could be wrong though

  • 24 jayphoto // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Said all along, think Pardews job will depend on the Fulham result! We were shocking against Morecombe, really outplayed at times! We were second best against West Ham too! We’ve got the players to be a top 8 side, but if you look at the top 6-8 teams they all have clear footballing philosophies brought in by their manager of choice ie: liverpools pass to death, spurs’ high line and full pitch press etc, they have all brought players to match these ideas! Nufc has short nippy technical players and tries to play as if we ‘ve got 10 6- footers than can bully teams off the pitch! In the last few years ive heard we’re basing our team on Villa, on Arsenal, on Spurs and on Everton! We should base it on Ajax! Play the same philiosophy from under 9′s up unto the 1st team! Then those players can intergrate better when they come up to the first team knowing the style! Our reserves /u21′s play some really slick passing attacking football under Beardo then come up to the 1st team and are expected to play direct….

  • 25 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Barkley, Hughes & Townsend should be on our list for top targets

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:11 PM


    For me it’s all about trial and error…we may think certain players are perfectly suited to a system but until tried in training and games we won’t know for sure.

    This is what annoys me the most, not we play a long ball game, if it works I can accept it, but that when something isn’t consistently working we don’t seem to try to change to something else.

  • 27 Thump // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    @wolfshead: Ah yes, football and chemical weapons. They go hand in hand, right?

  • 28 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    I agree wholeheartedly that people on here need to remember that it’s just football and not life but I think bringing up Syria is a bit pointless. We all know that terrible things go on outside of this little bubble we live in, and much more goes on that we don’t even know about.

    But football is escapism.. let’s keep it as that.

  • 29 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM


    true mate, i watched Spurs play last night and i loved there style of play and they played a 433

  • 30 wolfshead@toon // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM


    nah just saying im tired of reading about ppl being depressed over the toon theres not many fans happy about the situation if they want to cry about it dont come on here go to a shrink

  • 31 hugotoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    The next few days will have a serious impact on our season but what is going to happen is anyones guess.

    Best (sort of realistic) outcome – We sign Gomis, Ayew and Tom Ince for around £25 million…(ok maybe this really isnt that realistic!)

    Worst outcome – Cabaye leaves for a cut price of say £14million and we cant get ‘anyone over the line’ – JEEZ that phrase should be banned its so sickening. Secondly a last day bid come in for Ben Arfa and he is sold with once again no replacements. That would leave our squad plunging towards the championship.

    Most likely outcome – I think we will either sign Gomis or no-one, Cabaye will stay as our asking price is way above his current market value but I would imagine his form could be seriously poor for a period of time. Therefore a lot of pressure would rest with Remy, if he recovers from injury and plays well we will probably be hovering around mid-table 10 games in, if he doesnt I can see us being in the bottom 5 and Ashley pushing the Kinnear panic button…

  • 32 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Paul Merson is such an arse. He never predicts us to win, even the season when we were doing well he always predicted us to stumble week in week out.

    And all his other predictions (apart from his beloved Arsenal beating a much stronger Spurs side) are just playing it safe.

    How does that man keep his job? At least Thommo et al make light of their bias and make fair predictions.

  • 33 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:25 PM


    I don’t see what they are getting paid as being relevant, I am right footed but have two left feet, I am hopeless on the pitch, but if someone was paying me £50k per week that wouldn’t alter the fact that I still have two left feet and that I am still hopeless.

    If they can pass and move like Benny, Santon does, even Sammy does then why don’t the rest of them, do you seriously believe that Pardew tells them that only one or two are permitted to run and find space but the rest have to stay rigid, come on, its the same with this never getting beyond your man argument as well, Santon, Benny and Sammy will take their man on and get behind them and cause problems, we see that every time they play, as for the rest of them it can only be down to their inability, Pardew doesn’t stifle them, they stifle themselves, just watch when Remy gets in, he will run at defenders and take then on and cause problems, and why will he do that, because he is good enough a player to do that, and will Pardew stifle and stop him from doing it, no he won’t he will embrace and encourage it because he know’s its for the best, but will the rst start to do the same, no they won’t, why not, because they don’t have the ability.

  • 34 jayphoto // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    @fatmanjoe – hate merson but to be fair would you really predict us to win on current form?? Renember last year he tipped Arsenal to put 5 past us! Was fuming i was, then they banged 7 in..,,,

  • 35 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:30 PM


    I was getting frustrated watching the same old method which wasn’t working as well, but you can only play what you have got, and if what you have got is not good enough then you will always struggle, as we did and as we are.

  • 36 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Yea good point. I remember having exactly the same reaction.

    I hate the current doom and gloom surrounding our club though. Our starting 11 with or without Cabs should be looking to go all out and put 4 past Fulham, but instead we go out and play such tedious, unsure football. I can’t see another squad outside the top six with as many top players – internationals – so why are the managers expectations so low. He should be relishing the chance to play these players and watch beautiful football unfold.

    I am fully aware that I am saying nothing new here, but I have only just come to the realisation that our manager is not the right man to take us forward.

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    In a word……….No
    No one will

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM


    true, but i wouldn’t say what we have is any worse than most teams…only top 6 better I think.

    This basically the same team that finished 5th without Ba…the best football we saw were those 6 wins in a row…with 433…ba, cisse and ben arfa

    No reason we couldn’t have done it last year as well, even if it annoyed ba he still played that way for us and gave his all doing so….and since then we could add gouffran on that left sided role that Ba played and do the same style but we just didn’t.

    For me we played that great football for 6 wins in a row when we were safely in top 6 as well clear everton and liverpool and we some way off top 4, so not much to lose…then as we got close to top 4 we went back defensive to ‘sure up’ and try to grind out the points to get top 4 which resulted in defeats.

    For me this all boils down to pardew being way too cautious and worried instead of just using an attacking squad the best way.

  • 39 wolfshead@toon // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM


    it doesnt help when our strike force – the sharp end is fairly impotent anyone else think sammy should be given a go upfront dont all slag me off at once haha

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM


    After the west ham cameo and the morcombe game he has show he can beat a man and put in a decent cross (although needs to get his head up more as a lot of crosses were wasted).

    Done more so far this season than anyone else for that left sided role. Jonas offers little and is injured, marv is useless there and must be used in the middle, gouffran hasn’t done much when played there and pardew seems to like him more central this year.

    May as well give him a go and see what he can offer…can always drag him off at half time if he is proving to be useless.

  • 41 JK // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Im promising good news before the match tomorrow and im still confident we will deliver that news. Me and Alan are working socks off to – pint please – get them over the – no, the local ale – line.

    I think this voice to speech app is working now. s**t where my wallet. F**ks sake this bloody phone wont shut off when I bloody

  • 42 Rotonda heights // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM


    Absolutely spot on. I don’t think we have a bad squad at all but Pardew seems out of his comfort zone with technical players who want the ball played to feet like Ba then Colo etc.

  • 43 martoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    As much as I find him a pain, apart from his Liverpool bias I find Lawro quite fair. He had us down to win last week and again this week. Best of all he predicts the mackems to get relegated :)

  • 44 oldbobaycliffe // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    i know this is nufc and we have dof kinnear in charge of buying in players but i have to be honest none of the players we have been linked with all the summer have raised my anticipation.none of the players like carroll bent gomis are the players to put bums on seats.if you see the players in the top five or six some of the talent the clubs have and are bringing in excite me but us totally bored

  • 45 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    I agree. At least Sammi shows real intent. He might lose possession a lot and clearly isn’t the finished product but he’ll give us a bit of bite.

  • 46 Belfast // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Think Demba Ba played enough times on the left tbh
    That was after banging them in playing as a striker in the first half of the season.

    Problem last season was Cisse was f***** crap in a 4-4-2 and instead of dropping him Pardew played him right wing and made the situation even worse.

    I think most strikers would of told Pardew to f*** off, if they were shifted to left wing after doing so well as a striker.

  • 47 jayphoto // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Think Sammy might be a bit predictable at top level! He looks to take on the man every time, regardless of whether its the best option! Thought against man city tho he looked as if he actually cared tho, hes done enough to warrant a start, even if its because his competition for places has been woeful

  • 48 afay77 // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM


    So your saying that someone who is good enough to be signed by a premier league club and be paid what they do isnt good enough to pass and move? when teams in lower leagues do? these are international players. They stick to a plan in training formulated by the coach/manager, yes they should think on there feet but you cant say experienced professionals at this level arent good enough to pass and move? I coach kids to do it who are 11

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    The only player all summer who excited me was PEA and I knew when we had left it until the summer we would be outbid by a more attractive club.

  • 50 martoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    JK @41 :) :)

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM


    He may well be, and his decision making needs to improve but for now I think he is the best option out there until Remy is fit.

    He did ok against west ham too and in fairness to the lad i slated him last year for his lazy approach to games but now he seems to put a real shift in.

    He tracked back and bombed forward against morcombe….where marv on the other side neither fully committed one way or another and just seemed to float around the middle of the pitch, as if he was sulking at being wide.

  • 52 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM


    bringing Ba into the centre and putting Cisse on the right was one of the worst pieces of management that I have ever witnessed, trying it for a game or 2 is fine, but for as long as he did when it was not working was terrible, due to Benny and Cabaye’s injuries I don’t think it would have made that much difference but that would only be hiding a massive error which he made, Gouffran, I have my doubts, in a sttled side with him and Benny either side of Cisse with Tiote back to his best and Cabaye also at his best then he would probably be ok, but last season with a struggling team I doubt he could have turned it round for us, like yourself I would like to see that 4-3-3 again, but get a target man as well to give us options.

    I didn’t see a reversal to defensive tactics at the end of the 5th place finish season, what I saw was a home defeat against Citeh which left us relying on other results to get that 4th place, your being way too harsh, that just simply didn’t happen

  • 53 Belfast // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    I see Crystal Palace are signing that right back from Huddersfield, Jack Hunt. He looks a good player.

  • 54 BuckLuck // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    I agree with Transfer Sage that the best football produced under Pardew was when we played 433. That’s the easiest way to attack, and Pardew has proven that it needs to be simple :/

    That said a 4231 offers a lot more. Where a 433 kind of base it’s attack on the wing-attackers, a 4231 is less predictable and the choice between narrow or wide attack is easier to make for players. More difficult to master as manager, but i pays off as it’s tough to defend against. I think Pardew is too limited to play a 4231 with success though, and hope he goes for the 433.

    Under the next manager I would love us to play 4231.

  • 55 Scottiedog // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Ba please!! Go-miss, no thank you as last year he had more off sides than Cisse and that is really saying something!!

  • 56 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:07 PM


    yes that is exactly what I am saying, if they were good enough to do then they would, some of our lads can and they do do it, but most can’t, we see that on a regular basis, if a player has got the ball in the cntre circle and he tries to make a ten yard pass to a colleague but fails to make that pass, then that is not bad coaching or poor tactics that is a poor player, and that type of pass puts us on the back foot and prevents us from getting control of the match, and you cannot deny that we see this on a regular basis, if a player in the same position tries to make a 30 yard pass through the heart of their defence with Cisse trying to get on the end of it then you can forgive the player for that, but that is not the type of pass which is constantly putting us on the back foot and preventing us from controlling games.

  • 57 theartfuldodger // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    If you want to predict our next striker heres the criteria
    1. Should have 2 years left on his contract. Obv were buying next yr, so that time itil be 1 yr left
    2. Should come for not more than 8m
    3. Should accept low wages
    4. Agents should not ask for much.
    5. Should have a nice attitude.
    6. Should not attract any club other than newcastle.
    7. Should not be more than 26 yrs old
    8. Should still be quality !!!
    9. Should not expect higher than 5th place ever. No europe

    Ppl wonder why we take time to get players in.

  • 58 CurvaSudMag // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Roma is looking at Gomis closely as well say the Italian papers, Ba may be too expensive for them and he prefers a side in Europe. Roma’s boss would prefer Ba though.
    This kind of competition is why NUFC should’ve sorted out Gomis’s move the last time around. It might have been more expensive but its false economy if you think about the points dropped to West Ham and the risk of missing out all together.

  • 59 belgrade fan // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    For a whole transfer window we couldn’t buy 1 striker. just 1. And whole thing you people r doing is talking about r we reach enough or we aren’t. Well yes, we r rich enough to buy few players, we just don’t want. But the best thing is that 2morrow SJP is going to be full. MA will see that and think- full SJP, everyone is happy. Sometimes think we really deserves everything. I m just finished with this utter joke club until MA-AP-JFK r here

  • 60 sticklebricks // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    If wages are a problem get Remy to give him a ring…

  • 61 Rooster // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Ba left out the Senegal squad, Giresse says bo player who us bot a regular first teamer gets in his squad, Ba on loan at rhe kasr min uf Gomis deal yet again breaks down, mega yawn!!!!!!

  • 62 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Would I take several signings or several sackings?

    I’d take the latter everyday of the week, providing that those being sacked were

    - Pardew
    - JFK
    - Ameobi
    - Jonas

    I’d keep tiote as 5th Choice CM behind, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye and Bigi only because we always have a room full of injured players…

    We have a top 10 side, no doubt. However, we also have a man pretending to be a football manager that has just as much tactical knowledge as a monkey with half a brain.

    Would a manager that knows how to play football, beyond hoofing it, this team:


    Would dominate.

  • 63 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM


    Got to disagree. I though we did go back defensive and away from how we were playing when pressure was. It was the last 4 games where we never got a single win which cost is, not just the home game against city.

    It was the bizarre game at Wigan where we chopped at change constantly and a defensive/timid display at Everton.

  • 64 lesh // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    The situation under Kinnear’s directorship? SNAFU!

    It really is tine that Ashley looked Kinnear in the eyes and ask him why the squad has not been improved and whether he has found the DoF role bigger than he anticipated.

    Then, help him conclude that resuming his retirement might be best for all.

    In other words, sack him and bring in someone of Hiddink’s stature.

    Will that happen? Don’t hold your breath!

  • 65 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    *With, not would.

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:29 PM


    Ashley knows a player hasn’t been brought in due to the fact his cheque book is well and truly shut.

  • 67 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:30 PM


    The 3rd from last game was Chelsea where we attacked and won, Man City we went for them but they were just better than us, Wigan was not a defensive tactic it was just Wigan seemed to score whenever they got the ball, sorry but to blame Pardew for defensive tactics is just wrong, he has made errors and done things wrong, but to say he changed our game plan towards the end of that season is just wrong, at times you just get beat, that is what happened then.

  • 68 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Also not really sure if we should get Gomis as he will most likely be shite plus if he really wanted to come to us the now would there be a hold up in wages etc for so long?

    Think he really wants to go to Marseille

  • 69 Quilli // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Cant be a&sed anymore, totally underwhelmed, bitterly disappointed and disillusioned. I get more of a laugh reading that bloke with multiple personalities trying to wind up Ruddy and others. Brilliant entertainment

  • 70 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Afternoon ladies and gentlemen, how are we all today?

    On topic, I have come to terms with the fact that it’s pretty unlikely that we are signing anyone else, we started last season woefully short of attacking options and we’re starting this season woefully short of attacking options. Who said Ashley learns from his mistakes again?

    Anyway, not rehashing old ground. With the squad of players we have at our disposal, including the imminent return of Loic Remy, are we capable of a top ten finish? Certainly. However, under Pardew, will we achieve a top ten finish? I doubt it.

    Which would then beg the question, shouldn’t we just get rid of Pardew and appoint a young ambitious manager who would get much more out of these players? On paper it seems like a great idea, and could even work for a season, maybe even two seasons, but eventually a young ambitious manager, who knows he will get a good job elsewhere, will eventually tire of Mike Ashley’s stifling transfer policy and begin banging on Mike’s door demanding quality players every transfer window, and Mike couldn’t be having that now could he? So this young ambitious manager would either walk or be sacked, as demonstrated by KK when he was brought back to the club.

    So, better the devil you know and finish 13th/14th than the devil you don’t that could open up a whole new can of worms.

    It isn’t getting better until the fat man leaves.

  • 71 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM


    it was 5th last game

    our last 4 were stoke, wigan, everton and man city

    so i apologise, it was the last 3 we got nervous and defensive in, not last 4

  • 72 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM


    Agree sometime for does just suddenly drop or a team really raises it’s game against you but I think we changed our style, know a few others mentioned it too at the time and since….it’s how I saw the games.

  • 73 Jack Attack Attack Attack // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    This article should say “None of these strikers joining newcastle soon”

    As ive just started posting ill show you my first choice 11

    Sissoko-Cabaye- Anita
    Hba. Cisse. Remy

  • 74 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM


    Also, to try and prove my point in genernal, not just over those games which was what i meant to do.

    Any time we are in a must win game or important match we seem to play even more defensive and rely on cisse, hba or cabaye to do something special. In nearly all cup games we play on the back foot, home or away.

  • 75 walker_lad // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    I like what I hear on here today. I myself personally would like to see a 433 with a rotating front 3 so I would like to play:

    Deb/sant colo mbiwa dum
    Anita tiote/cab sissoko
    Arfa. Remy/cisse. Ayew

    I reckon this team can easily challenge for 7th but we need the right style of play the right style passing and moving

    And if its not to much to ask the right style off manager :)

  • 76 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM


    as for the end of the 2011/12 season we will have to agree to disagree, but what we can agree on is that we did over achieve and we did see some decent football, hopefully Remy replaces Ba and if both Cabaye and Tiote get back to what they were that season, and if Benny can stay injury free, and if that happens you never know, me might get some decent entertainment back again, however there is a hell of a lot of “ifs” in that.

  • 77 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM


    I think the vast majority of us would see 4-3-3 as the most fluid formation offensively, but I remember calling for a 4-2-3-1 formation last season, which is essentially an offensive formation if used correctly, a la Chelsea, but I’d reckon that even Pardew could turn a 4-3-3 into a defensive formation.

  • 78 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Yes i also feel that transfer is over for this window.
    Think Ashley may spend a little in jan when the team is near
    the relegation zone, and that will be in a attempt to keep us up.
    The man only cares about his money in his pocket.
    Yes he does own the club but cares nothing for the fans who are the most important part of it imo.

  • 79 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM

  • 80 kt97toonarmy // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    I just hope we sign a couple of players before the window closes otherwise we will struggle for goals this season

    However remy nd cisse isn’t a bad pairing but back up wud b an issue

  • 81 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    walker lad

    What I will say is that we did play a fluent 433 under pardew, even if it was just for 6 or so games.

    So he knows he can set them up like that, the players can work in that system and play well…so if he does chose to go back to it we could see a marked improvement…maybe remy is the catalyst to get back to that? We will see soon enough.

  • 82 santonthenewmaldini // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Thing is I fully expect us to beat Fulham they are gash I think we will beat them 1 nil which might be enough to give us confidence in the next few games after it

    My worry is Villa will destroy us they have been unlucky against the big teams but if they attack us like that we will crumble We dont really have a centre back partnership capable of dealing with Weimann and Benteke prob need to play Shola again to defend set pieces

  • 83 JackButler // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    £18,901,600 profit made on transfers and thats before we add in the additional £35 million we get this season from TV

  • 84 walker_lad // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM


    If he did I think he would play

    Deb colo mbiwa san
    Sissoko anita
    Arfa cisse remy

    He would play sissoko and Anita further back which means that the front 3 will only have one proper person supplying them so we become predictable

  • 85 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Teams like, norwich, west brom, villa, and others are spending a few quid to keep up with the game. We are standing still.

  • 86 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Anyone else think that if things go bad this season, the murmurs of boos turn into roars and we give Mike Ashley torrents of abuse that is heard all over the world whenever we’re on TV that we might actually see Mike Ashley put the club up for sale again?

    Lee Ryder was at pains to say that “everyone could hear the chants against Mike Ashley, even more so because the game was on Sky” – which makes me think that there are people somewhat uncomfortable with the boat being rocked. Just thinking out loud here.

  • 87 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Jack butler
    Thats what makes me sick about the club that all that money is staying in his pocket when we are buying tops and going to games etc.

  • 88 JackButler // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM


    The chants against Ashley were loud and clear at Morecambe, lets see what the reaction is tomorrow

  • 89 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM


    Agree there lad…i dont like the word over achieve though…you get what you deserve after 38 games. I think we benefited from good buys. Ba fired us up the league then as his goals dried cisse arrived bang in form. when one of them didn’t do it HBA or cabaye would produce.

    We rarely scored good team goals, i’d say a lot were individual strikes from one of those 4 i mentioned but one of them was always on top form for us. That just won’t happen every year which is why I think we suffered last year.

    We need to get good team play and find a way to score as a team, not on wonder strikes.

    I posted stats what showed we had 3rd highest % of our shots outside the box last year and 2nd lowest % in six yard box which shows we dont do team goals.chances very well.

    Also the season we finished 5th we had the lowest amount of shots on goal in the league but the one of the best conversion rates.

    To me it shows when things go well they can go very well, but if something doesn’t click through injury, lack of form, players sold etc we can plummet

  • 90 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM


    It’s a sound formation, I’m in no way saying that it wouldn’t work, if anything it is the perfect formation to suit the players we have, on paper that is.

    However, Pardew would drag to the 2 wide men further down the wings as defensive cover leaving the lone striker isolated, just like in our 4-2-3-1, there would be poor link up play between midfield and attack and the same problems would repeat themselves over and over again.

    Pardew’s default setting is to defend, which is why these inherently attacking formations never work under him. He’s a 4-4-2 man, and under Pardew I can’t see us achieving much success unless we go back to 4-4-2.

  • 91 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    I think if the fans let it be known on a regular basis that we not happy- ( not abuse ) i think he will sell.

  • 92 Spoof // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM


    if Remy isn’t the catalyst for a 4-3-3 then I really do fear for the season, because if he isn’t and Remy is used alongside Cisse in a 4-4-2 then I would be very fearful because we would have two strikers where neither of them are able to play with their backs to goal (target man) and we would have Jonas on the left with Benny not knowing what his role should be, Remy and Cisse surely cannot be used as the front two in a 4-4-2, Remy on the left with Gomis alongside Cisse could work, but I hope to god we never see Cisse and Remy as a twin pairing

  • 93 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Jack Butler

    My thinking is that those who travel to away games, and chant against Mike Ashley, may be the type of people who have had enough and are staying away from SJP, which is a good thing in itself. Will be interesting if those who cannot stay away from SJP are disillusioned enough to bring the “fat cockney b*****d” chant back into SJP.

  • 94 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:03 PM


    I had a friend go to the west ham game and when the fans got the banner referring to JK as a clown they were asked to take it down, when put back up it was taken off them.

    unless there are mass banners up then I can see the security trying to remove them..fortunately TV cameras will always pick them up so will still get air time.

  • 95 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM


    That’s the fine balancing act at the minute isn’t it? What is the best course of action for us, as fans? Should we organise protest marches, should we try and organise meetings with the club and relay our displeasure in that sense? Do we try and have a boycott or do we go into SJP and not only let Mike Ashley know that we’re not happy, but let the entire world know that we’re not happy?

    I’d like to get as many fans as possible around a table and thrash this all out and put our best foot forward.

    There’s a FansUtd meeting in the Irish Centre, Thurs 5th Sept 6.30pm for anyone interested in these sorts of discussions.

  • 96 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM


    If we begin the practice of bringing in banners, the stewards will be advised not to allow entry to anyone carrying a banner, it’s censorship, Ashley won’t allow it.

  • 97 JackButler // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM


    The travelling fans are always the hard core and most vocal of all fans at any club and with the mood definitely turning against Ashley and co I’d be amazed if there was no chanting against him tomorrow…….even more so if the performance is poor and the result goes against us

  • 98 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    He put the club up for sale because of the abuse he took before,he will do it again,if he thinks that was bad wait and see what it is like if he doesn’t sign anyone,surely he knows it will be the last straw.To quote a movie”There Will Be Blood”.

  • 99 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Also, anyone want to keep on top of discussions being held by the Mike Ashley Out campaign can follow them on @Mike_Ashley_Out on twitter and facebook.

  • 100 walker_lad // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Would anyone play 4222

  • 101 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM


    I drink his milkshake, I drink it up! haha (probably not advisable to drink Mike Ashley’s milkshake…)


    I’d be amazed if there is no chanting against Mike Ashley, the fat cockney chant always seemed to come out whenever we weren’t playing particularly well in a certain game, this season the chant will be non stop if that’s the case!

    If people are going to continue going to SJP, which is their right to do so, then perhaps they can help the cause by booming loud and clear so that Sky, and BBC can hear that we no longer want Mike Ashley here. (I’m a poet and I didn’t know it ;) )

  • 102 JackButler // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM


    the difference between now and the last time he put the club for sale is that we are now worth a hell of a lot more money to him.

    But if a buyer does come in then expect them to come from America and not some oil Barron from the middle east

  • 103 Indian Magpie // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Daniel Levy is delaying Bale’s move to Real Madrid so Arsenal can’t sign Angel Di Maria until after the North London Derby. [SkySports]

  • 104 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM


    defo think the way forward is the fans to be vocal and put up banners etc as this does give us media coverage.Because Ashley attends home games so people can put their point across.
    Can also see the sense in a boycot though as this hits him in his pocket eg match day revenue and also will get media attention.
    Under this owner the club is going nowhere.

  • 105 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:17 PM


    If he lost 10,000 in attendance this season it would be noticeable and give him bad coverage, whilst hitting him a little bit in the pocket, and if the remaining 40,000 were chanting “get out of our club…etc” then it gives him even more bad coverage, the whole media coverage for that would increase the pressure on him, and if the results are bad the pressure cooker is intensified.

    However, the main thing is that we don’t create an environment that is damaging to the team’s performance on the field but we still need to get our message across.

  • 106 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    You have placed an image in my head that is going to take at least 2wks worth of scrubbing my nostrils and shaving my tongue to remove.

  • 107 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM


    You’re welcome, there is nothing more infectious than an idea ;)

  • 108 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Just heard on SSN West Brom are interested in Moses.

  • 109 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Sinclair was a player we should have been in for. Redmond was a player we should have been in for. Leroy Fer was a player we should have been in for. Darren Bent was a player we should have been in for and now Moses is a player we should have been in for.

    We’re aware that these players are available, we simply don’t want to sign them.

  • 110 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM


    then you have obviously never been with a mackem lass hha

  • 111 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    agree I think this will build up as the season goes on as people are sick of things and will only take so much before they say enough is enough.
    Hope the lads win tomorrow though. HWTL.

  • 112 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Lol Sage,nice one.

  • 113 JackButler // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Moses to Liverpool

  • 114 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Would love moses at the toon, fast and direct until sir pards gets his hands on him lol.

  • 115 count // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    When the transfer window finally closes I’m tempted to go back through eds articles and count up how many times we have supposedly “renewed our interest” in gomis.

    It is nothing short of ridiculous how many stories there have been saying the deal is dead, then a few days later saying we are back in for him.
    What a waste of fu<king time like.

    All in the name of a few hits.

    It's even more annoying than those stupid celebrity news updates they have in the middle of films on telly.

    Humanity sucks.

  • 116 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:25 PM


    Of course, 3 points is the most important thing, but I hope the fans that are going to SJP realise that even if results are going well, we still need to rid this club of Mike Ashley, this feeling shouldn’t be dependant on whether we’re doing ok in the league or doing badly, he needs to know that his time is up, he is past the point of return and we want him gone.


    Fortunately I haven’t haha

  • 117 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Replace ‘One’ with Non, and remove “Soon?” from the title.

  • 118 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Christ… I’D take Kenwyn Jones… if it meant we did not have to see Shola play for us again.

  • 119 A monkey is better then Pardew // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    2-0 to Fulham Tomorrow, with Newcastle mustering 3 shots on target.

  • 120 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM


    I suppose Ed does need to freshen up the blog with a different article here and there, otherwise we’d have threads with 1000+ comments on them.

    I rarely go through every article unless it has a headline that I am interested in, which obviously excludes every nonsensical transfer update, and go straight to the comments.

    All about perspective I suppose.

  • 121 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    most telling itnerview is JK saying they all got heads together months ago and decided the squad was strong enough for top ten.

    This window will show ashley’s ambition…does he want a squad that should make top ten or does he want his squad to improve year on year to the next level?

  • 122 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    yes Ashley needs to go as he is the root of the problem.
    I had a look at our next ten league games and cant see us getting more than 5-7 points, thoughts anyone?

  • 123 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    The one where Joe said he can pick up the phone and speak to any manager in the world still makes me laugh!

  • 124 theartfuldodger // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Im less bothered about where we finish (as long as we survive) and more bothered about where we target to finish and how we set up for that.
    Top 5 has never been our target. Thats the worry. Flukes keep happening. Its not long term growth.

  • 125 JackButler // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Ashley has no ambition other than to survive in the league, he will spend the absolute minimum in order to keep us in the premier league and rake in the TV money. The football is simply a by-product of a business investment

  • 126 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM


    Well Ed merely opens a thread to discuss stories which appear in the papers…this story has been on and off all summer in the tabloids so Ed is doing the same.

    No harm done in my eyes, if he wants to get up early every morning and work late on the blog then he can run it as he sees fit, a few extra articles to get a little more advertising money in is fine with me…he gives us a great service.

    suppose the option for less advertising and fewer repetitive articles would be a subscription service where we pay a monthly fee.

  • 127 saxonfenken // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Same negative rubbish from the one who knows everything, with a bit of encouragement not to support out team by not going to matches, and putting banners everywhere. that should really encourage the players to do well

  • 128 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM


    I don’t know if it’s as bleak as 5-7 but unfortunately I’d say that I don’t think we’ll get much more than 10 points in our next 10 league games, which would have us at 11 points after 12 league games, wouldn’t exactly be a blistering start would it?

  • 129 theartfuldodger // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Transfer Sage
    They got together when season started.
    I think those are the words.
    Perhaps it means 2 weeks ago and not months back

  • 130 Pokat // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    count – To be fair to Ed, thats exactly what he does, and why he does it. And then you oblige by hitting the page and swelling it with a comment.

    And if you check the web, twitter, skysports, newsfeeds etc, you will find these stories come up repeatedly there too. So if you find it annoying, look away. :)

  • 131 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM


    Just out of interest, what exactly is it that I’ve done to upset you? Instead of commenting on the worth of my comments, why don’t you provide worthwhile comments of your own. All I am doing is stating my opinion, to which you’re entitled to disagree with.

  • 132 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM


    Fair enough, my mistake. Thought they said they got together a while ago but story came out start of season? I could easily be wrong.

    but then that’s more worrying that they waited until then to actually discuss what was needed.

  • 133 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    The players shouldnt need encouraged to do well they get paid lots of money to do well.

  • 134 dchristi // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    We won’t sign anyone for sure. This all Cabaye saga is a set up by Ashley and co to distract us fans as we will never sign anyone.
    I’m sure after Monday, Pardew will go to press and say having Cabaye to play again is like a new signing and we all silly loyal fans will just believe that he’s the one that refuse to play where in the reality is Pardew was told not to play him and create this silly script in media.

  • 135 Yohan Kebab // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    i thought that we would at least spend 10m this window :/

    even by my low expectations this window has managed to disappoint

    if i was manager (easy to say)

    Ba in 10m if we have to pay it
    Moses on loan
    Alderweireld 7m (based on eriksens 10m valuation)
    cabaye out 12m to arsenal with rosicky coming the other way (bring flair and experience)

  • 136 swisstone // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    A monkey

    If we’re in for Gomis then why not Jones, not a bad shout

    Seems little between them from what i’ve seen of Gomis

  • 137 swisstone // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Do you think giving ashley abuse tmrw will prompt him to splash the cash? Hardly

    Still think half of the problem now is he looking for revenge

    Abuse him yes, but after the window closes, just in case there is the tiniest chance he is prepard to put his hand in his pocket before midnight monday

  • 138 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Well even if we sell Cabaye now, it is abundantly clear that the club has got absolutely no plan in place as a contingency in case we lose one of our top players.

    They proved that with Carroll, and they proved it with Ba, and we then spend the next transfer window, or even the one after that one, trying to replace these players.

    Some would have you believe that Mike Ashley is in charge of transfer dealings and has a plan. If he does have a plan, it is purely based around making money. Compare that plan to Daniel Levy’s plan, buy half a squad of players at non-inflated prices before you sell your top asset.

    Compared to Spurs (and most other teams) our transfer plan is a joke that is made up as we go along.

  • 139 Toon1978 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    It certainly looks like there will be no further additions to the squad . With Remy, Cisse and hopefully HBA working together on the offensive and hopefully Cabaye,Sissoko, Anitaand Tiote fighting for a spot in the middle of the park, we should have enough quality.

  • 140 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Will that be the next excuse? Mike Ashley didn’t spend some money because some kids were mean to him and he’s taking his ball and going home to tell him mother?

    Seems like a legitimate business practice for a multi-billionaire…

  • 141 toonaids // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    when are they doing jesses geordie eye make up. pardew could do with a bit of colour

  • 142 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM


    still think spurs payed some inlfated prices…like lamela

    but they decided he would be a huge benefit so didn’t quibble over a few million here and there.

    they are experts, they are like that property show where they tried to turn 100k into 1mil…buy, improve, sell for profit…they have done that over the past 6 years and have a very solid team

    Still think spurs will finish 6th this year.

    i’ve gone chelsea, man utd, city, arsenal, liverpool, spurs

  • 143 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Does anyone think that cabs will start tomorrow and possibly at the expense of Anita?

  • 144 aidytoon9 // Aug 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    I fancy spurs to finish above the Arsenal this season, think they will finish 4th.

  • 145 DokToon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM


    ruddy, with all due respect, offensive football and newcastle should never be in the same sentence, unless its used inthe following..

    the football we are watching is offensive…

    take that, you know-it-all :)

  • 146 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM


    I think Spurs have a much more complete and competitive squad than Arsenal’s and with the experience of last season I think AVB will finally crack the top 4. I also think that if Liverpool don’t bring in another attacking player, they could be light up front without Sturridge if he ever got injured. I don’t think Suarez will be anyway near as effective this season as his heart isn’t in it, almost like Modric in his last season for Spurs.

    I’m backing Spurs for 4th spot, maybe even higher if they can get that squad to gel and play quickly. Also, some of their fringe players are looking very impressive, Andros Townsend for example.

    Think it is the most interested I have been in the top echelons of the table in a while as normally I just focus on wherever we are in the table.

  • 147 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM


    Nice to see ya lad, although I could do without the friendly fire, had enough of a barrage from insurgents last night! haha

    I agree, the football we play is offensive on the senses, it even tastes bad for goodness sake! haha

    How’s things your end my good man?

  • 148 Yohan Kebab // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    if anita is dropped for cabaye then im done

  • 149 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    3 simple words after tomorrow’s game

    WE ARE F****D

  • 150 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM


    I don’t think spurs have replaced Modric and bale though. I think they have a lot of good footballers but none who unlock teams and pic passes cosistently like Suarez and coutinho for Liverpool or Wiltshire and cazorla for arsenal.

    I also think despite the emergence of bale as a world class player spurs still finished lower with AVB than the did under Harry. Harry had two top 4 finishes remember.

  • 151 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    I really think our final position in the PL will be largely dependant on other teams, rather than our own play. Let’s be honest, we are relegation candidates, there can be no getting away from it, but we shouldn’t be with the players at our disposal and that is purely down to Pardew and his inept tactics.

    If it looks like we’re going down, Ashley will sack Pardew and replace him with someone to give us a short term boost and keep us in the league, or else he’ll throw money at the team and keep Pardew in charge, either way, he will work out the most cost effective way of keeping us in the PL.

    If the likes of Palace and Hull plummet and count for nothing in the league then that leaves it easier for us to avoid the drop, meaning we just need to consistently out perform one other team, obviously, but we should be striving for more than that.

    When viewing a Newcastle United season we shouldn’t have to be making these calculations, but under Mike Ashley, it’s going to be our bread and butter.

  • 152 jasper // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    As others have observed one as the sinking feeling that AP will drop Anita for Cabaye.
    Something that no-one seems to have commented upon about the West Ham game is the way that Anita was marshalling the team, especially when we were defending corners. He was pointing out players who needed marking and on one occasion woke up HBA who was about to lose his man.
    Since Nolan left hs is the first time I have seen anyone do this, Colo wears the armband but doesn’t seem to do anything when he does.

    On a different tack Rotunda’s comments about he lack of triangles etc were spot on. None anywhere. So we can’t work the ball out of a press in our own half or manoeuvre it to our danger men in the opposition box.
    We want HBA to get he ball in or at least near the penalty area, not trying to run it in from the halfway lie.

  • 153 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM


    Still think Spurs will cope with the loss of Bale better than many expect, he was incredibly greedy, and while he won them some games with his outrageous dribbles and some fantastic goals, very few remember the ludicrous shots he attempted when he should have passed, or the dribbles he went on and lost the ball where there were other options on.

    Bale has had an excellent season, scratch that, an excellent half of a season, and Spurs are getting 90m for him. There is only one winner in that situation, and that is Spurs who have assembled a squad of incredibly good players whom, personally, I think will deliver the goods this season.

  • 154 theartfuldodger // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Ashley’s Brain

    If squad is good enough for top 10 with cabaye, its good enough for top 15 without him
    Sell cabaye 15m . Drop 5 places. Loose out on 5m max prize money. See Profit profit profit !!!! and no backup needed.

  • 155 Transfer Sage // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM


    I think they have done a lot of good with the money, and for a team like them makes perfect sense. they can strengthen very well.

    What I think they have done though is what they did with the modric money, they have brought in a lot of decent players but none of them have the cutting edge or are match winners.

    I look at that team and dont see a genuine match winner like bale was…or rvp, suarez, messi, ronaldo, falcao, mata, etc can be.

  • 156 FatmanJoe // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM


    I completely agree. On the one hand we want to shout Ashley out and give him abuse at games, don’t turn up etc. Then we expect him to pay money for players. Why would he bother?

  • 157 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Ruddy…we are the Joke of the PL and have been for a few years! We have even hired a Joke to take care of our Joke transfer business!

    …an amateur club!

  • 158 DokToon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    jasper, there are triangles ont he pitch… consider the isoceles, two long legs, about 50 yards downfield :)

    ruddy im well, thanks, a mite hungover, but dealing lol…

    ambition… somehow its a 4 letter word, was at my local with a friend whos over and a spurs fan… its sad when he looks at me, shaking his head, i hate feeling inferior to him based on our ambition, or lack of it…

  • 159 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:28 PM


    Really remains to be seen if these players are match winners or not. Soldado could really make the step up, Lamela could take the league by storm, Paulinho and Dembele could form a partnership to rival the best in the league. If they sign Christian Eriksen he could provide a real injection of quality. We just don’t know really.

    I agree that none of these players have the proven calibre of Suarez, Cazorla, or RVP but that is what is beautiful about the PL is that until they are thrust into the deep end we can’t really know for sure.

    All I know is, if I was a Spurs fan right now I’d be very excited.

  • 160 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM


    Sad times indeed, until we can get to a stage where we are run efficiently, respectably and in the best interests for both the financial and the football interests of the club can we ever claim to be well run.

    The business may be run smoothly, and it may be making money, but the product we are selling is not fit for purpose. Only in this industry can failure be rewarded.

  • 161 Toon1978 // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    With Remy hopefully introduced to the first team, we will have more potency up front not to mention Cabaye coming back into the team hopefully. I even forgot to mention Sissoko so we have entry on offer in the middle but we just lack the width. A striker is needed also but it seems this is not going to happen. Maybe put young Ameobi on the left.


    Santon____ Mbiwa____Collo____Dummett





    Not saying this would work but its just an idea. We would still have a strong bench.


    And we still have players like Williamson,Heidara,R.Taylor,Marveaux, Vuckic,Bigi and Sammy. Must admit the squad ain’t so bad aftery ranting lol.

  • 162 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:39 PM


    Well most of my friends are either Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal or Chelsea fans, and I’ve pretty much been the butt of their jokes my entire life, I’ve grown to become pretty stoical about it all really, and whereas once I used to defend our club in light of their comments, now I simply find myself agreeing with them.

  • 163 micktoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Adam Campbell has returned from him loan spell at Carlisle United, #NUFC have confirmed

    Newcastle United FC
    via twitter on Aug 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM

  • 164 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    I see Adam Campbell has returned to the club following his month loan spell, call me cynical but the fact that his loan hasn’t been extended tends to make me think that he is being called back to be part of the first team squad, meaning, no further signings.

  • 165 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM


    Snap haha

  • 166 micktoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    hes like a new signing lol

  • 167 DokToon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    ruddy, he was feeling so badly, when we were talking about the transfer situation, he bought me drinks… the chat was like this:

    him: whats going on with the toon mate?
    me: i have no effin clue…
    him: nice window for you (smirks)
    me: yup, we got a player on loan (snorts)
    him: you see who all we signed?
    me: throws a empty bottle at him, lifts his wallet and runs

  • 168 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM


    Actually the reason he’s being called back is because a 30 year old Scottish journeyman striker is back from injury so Campbell isn’t going to get much game time.

    The great ginger hope isn’t great enough to get into a League One team yet…

  • 169 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM


    I wonder, does Pardew get bored of these clichés that he rolls out all the time.

    “We was tired…”
    “Make no mistake…”
    “If I’m honest….”
    “Couldn’t get him over the line…”
    “Like a new signing…”

    He’s like a scratched CD that has seen better days, time for the scrap heap Alan, you’re old technology.

  • 170 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:46 PM


    Well that’s like every single one of my conversations with my friends. I’m beginning to make a pretty good living at it ;) haha


    Is that the reason? Fair enough. Hope to see him go back on loan again this season, he’ll not improve without first team football.

  • 171 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM


    Agreed. He wouldn’t get many minutes for us and he needs the experience. I’d rather have Shola playing for us than Campbell in terms of performance to be honest. But regardless of that, Shola isn’t going to get any better for us if he goes out on loan, Campbell could be a decent player if he gets the experience.

    Of course, he could end up being another Ranger or Chopra…but we’ll never know unless we do the right things by him.

  • 172 DokToon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM


    ok i threw a coaster, and didnt take his wallet… but its the principle…

    one day, i hope to be able to throw NUFC uccess in his face before i die.. i dont have the same hatred for spurs that i have for manure, not by a long stretch…

  • 173 Ted Bundy // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Much like you in that regard is AP, eh Ruddy?

  • 174 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    And he’s definitely not what we need in our first team anyway. We’ve got several lightweight pacey attacking players already, what we need is a big strong striker who can hold up the ball and also score plenty of goals. An upgraded Shola if you will.

  • 175 micktoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    For me carlisle wasnt a good option, campbell needs games but also confidence which he isnt going to get when your getting stuffed evert week, also the same being said for vuckic and his proposed loan to Bradford surely we should looking at top 5 championship for him

  • 176 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM


    From all accounts Campbell has the raw potential to be a first team player for us in the future, just think we need to be doing the right things for his own development. I’d hate to think that Mike Ashley’s penny pinching could possibly hamper the development of who is our best young talent.

    It’ll remain to be seen I suppose.

  • 177 JAMSHA // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    remy on.the bench for tomoros match…. should be good news

  • 178 theartfuldodger // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Pardews next interview:

    What happened to Gomis ?
    “We couldnt get him over the line”

    What happened to Cabaye(sold) ?
    “He crossed the line “

  • 179 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Ruddy… we are a sight for sore eyes aren’t we :-) lol

  • 180 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM


    That’s where I think Gomis could possibly be a decent signing as he holds the ball up pretty well. But surely that makes the decision to overlook Berbatov last season even more confusing. 5m for a player who bases his entire game on his hold up play and does so exceptionally well, and he is a NUFC fan. The mind boggles.


    My brother is a Man United fan, they have a particular sort of arrogance don’t they? Makes them very hard to discuss football with, as they automatically assume they know everything there is to know about football.

  • 181 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    I wonder if this forum is reflective of the true majority of nufc fans? ??

    The reason I ask is im not sure I would pessimistic about our current situation if I didn’t continue to read this site.

    I know there are stories in the media about the lack of signings but nothing to the extent of doom on here.

    Don’t get me wrong im not happy with the current situation but I’m also of the mind that you can get dragged into a ridiculous mind set by reading nothing but this blog.

    Nobody on here and I mean nobody predicted all the signings we made in January and they all happened in a matter of days.

    I say lets stop this sh#t for the next 3 days and if nothing has happened after then. .. then let the slagging kick into overdrive.

  • 182 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM


    Think I might take more of an interest in European football this season, I’ve already started watching some Bundesliga matches, and a few Ligue 1 games. I’ve yet to decide who my European football team will be.

    Heaven knows, I’ll need some football to follow that brings me some pleasure and doesn’t have me climbing the walls! Any suggestions?

  • 183 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Does anyone know what’s going on with the likes of Abeid, Alfi, Willo and Obertan?

    …and what about Newton has he gone out on loan again? I don’t think I have seen anything to Haidara either?

  • 184 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM


    Abeid is on loan to Panathinaikos, Newton is on loan to St Mirren again, Tavernier is on loan to Shrewsbury, Richardson is on loan to Accrington Stanley, Ferguson is on loan to Birmingham and Haidara has disappeared…

    As for Willo and Obertan, they’re just not good enough.

  • 185 micktoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    newcastle jets in the ozzy league
    A league champs 08
    play in black and white (away strip)

  • 186 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Ruddy…I started watching alot of Swansea last season and will. definitely be following them this season.

    As for European football I think the Bundesliga is a good shout :-)

    If Eriksen stays at Ajax I might fancy watching their CL campaign; think this might be the breakthough season for Lucas Andersen – he is definitely one to watch!

  • 187 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM


    Does Heskey still play for them? Tearing things up down under haha

  • 188 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    …and Alfi has just gone off the grit as well?

  • 189 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:10 PM


  • 190 Roy Morten // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    I won’t buy anything that will support any of MA’s business. Think there will have to happen something big before monday night for me to spend 1000£ traveling overseas to watch a game.. All the supporters from other teams looking forward to the next game,i’m already looking forward to the next season.. Really depressed of whats happening to our club..

  • 191 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM


    But last summer we had Cisse and Ba. Did we want to spent £5M on an older striker with fairly big wages who wants to be the main man? He would definitely have insisted on playing when fit or he would have sulked. Getting rid of Ba in the summer wouldn’t have been a bad bet then but we know that Pardew still felt he could get him to stay and sign a new contract.

    I’ve heard it all before about Campbell though. It’s all well and good having the potential now but it’s not the club’s fault if he doesn’t achieve it. There have been plenty of players for all teams who looked amazing early on but just didn’t cut it. And he’s not exactly pulling up trees like Rooney or Owen at that age.

    We need to be patient on Campbell. He could improve drastically in a short space of time or he could just stagnate. Injuries, his bodies ability to grow and learn and his mind’s ability to learn and focus are all crucial. We can only speculate on those.

  • 192 estechco // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Ruddy@183 – Haidara is back on the treatment table, according to something I’ve read this week.

    A re-occurrence of his knee injury courtesy of the thug from Wigan, if I’m not mistaken

  • 193 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM


    Amalfitano was never on the grid to begin with.

    Spurs, Swansea and Liverpool will be three teams to watch this season I think from an aesthetic point of view.

    I’ll just be looking for something, anything to keep me sane haha

  • 194 micktoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    yeah haha and michael bridges
    remember him 6 games 0 goals

  • 195 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM


    Just checked physio room and it says he’s out with a knee injury with no set return date. That doesn’t sound too promising does it?


    We should have sold Ba last summer, no doubt about it, that way we could have had a big hold up player bringing Cisse into play. I think most fans would not have complained if we paid 75k a week for a player like Berbatov, it looks like Gomis is asking for something around that figure anyway.

    As for Campbell, if the club send him on loan to the right sort of teams, where he gets plenty of football, if they shelter him and use him correctly in the first team and he does not progress, then it is not the responsibility of the club. But if they fail in that process in any way and a player doesn’t progress, then they do have questions to answer, of course they do, it’s their job to produce players and help them progress, it’s why some clubs are better than others at doing it.

  • 196 micktoon // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    ladbrokes are giving 13/8 for us tomorow not a bad price at home to fulham its a special offer, i wonder when was the last time we were that price at home to a bottom half team

  • 197 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:21 PM


    Say no more, that’s the kind of team I need to be following haha

  • 198 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:24 PM


    I agree with you on all points there. But hindsight is a wonderful thing and we know the club policy is to sign player’s with resale value. If Ba had signed a new contract and continued to score for us then he’d be linked to £20M transfers this summer and hopefully we could keep him and we wouldn’t need to bring in Gomis.

    As for Campbell, he’s just about the right age to loan out now. It’s pretty clear that Pardew wants to hedge his bets with him in case JFK doesn’t do his job but it will be good for everyone if someone like Gomis comes in.

  • 199 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:28 PM


    Hindsight is indeed a brilliant thing, but with the Cisse/Ba issues that was seeing Ba being played down the wing, it was pretty clear that he was never going to sign a new contract as both players couldn’t be accommodated.

    Well signing a senior striker would push Campbell a little further away from our first team, which will give him a little freedom to develop away from the glaring eyes at SJP haha.

    Would like to see him get a season down in League One and see how he gets on down there, I actually wouldn’t have minded seeing him go on loan to St Mirren though, they did a pretty good job with Dummett.

  • 200 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:33 PM


    St Mirren and Carlisle play at about the same standard anyway don’t they? Apart from Celtic that is.

    I honestly don’t know what the master plan was with Cisse and Ba. Did they think that one of they would cave in? Did they think that they would suddenly start to be able to play together? It wasn’t as if one of them had to play on the wing but it was almost as if there was an ego problem that both wanted to be the main man.

  • 201 Thump // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    @Ruddy: St. Mirren were interested in him too, weren’t they? I remember some positive words anyway.

  • 202 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM


    Well some would argue that Celtic play at a League One standard in the SPL and then up it a level in Europe haha

    That’s what I mean about not having a plan, the club just hoped for the best, Pardew knew that Ba and Cisse couldn’t play up front together which is why he had to ship one or the other out to wing, so knowing that why did the club not sell Ba, as he was always the more precarious given his release clause, and then target a striker who would play well for the team and bring the best out of Cisse by holding up the ball?

    They really do make it up as they go along, they lack any structure, and I really question if Pardew understands what type of players he needs to compliment each other and play as a team. No wonder Carr is frustrated with Pardew, he’s clueless, and those handling incomings and outgoings are just as bad.

  • 203 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:41 PM


    Which is why I was very surprised that he went to Carlisle in the first place, given that Newton is up there too and we have a relationship with St Mirren and they have a good record of looking after the few players we sent up to them.

  • 204 colwell // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    So it looks Liverpool are signing Sakho now. They have well and truly blown us away 2 seasons ago we finished above them, now they are sooooo much better than us.

  • 205 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 30, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Afay77, very good posts today. It is indeed clear as day that it is coaching and tactics well above squad quality, although it does need a few additions.

    The lack of movement is astounding for these international players. That is coached and planned out of them.

    They are international players for a reason. They have been recognised as playing good enough football to represent their county. Now they all look lost and misguided. That is down to Pardew and his staff, not the whinging of not having enough English players Etc.

    Good players with good management will produce good football, regardless where they are from. Pardew is on a downward spiral of failure, like in his previous jobs.

    On his descent he is looking for as many excuses as possible to keep himself in a salaried position for a bit longer. Nothing more. Well, along with his ego, which has no substance of course.

  • 206 jokinoot // Aug 30, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Haidara is suffering from the clash with the evil macmanaman reoccurrence injury

  • 207 miggy // Aug 30, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Sick to death of people saying weve got a good starting eleven NO WE HAVENT we terrible from top to bottom jonas taylor taylor are all garbage simple as that ffs

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