Lack Of Real Ambition Starting To Cost Newcastle

Over the last two summers Newcastle have had very little transfer activity, and this summer we have only managed to bring in one player so far  – Loic Remy – and that was only a loan deal, and when Newcastle leave it this late in the transfer market, just 57 hours left – anything can happen – and we could end up with no more players coming in.

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Mike Ashley seems to show no real ambition for Newcastle

Whether we can keep Yohan Cabaye is another question, but it’s significant that Arsenal have not come in with another bid for the French International, who could play today against Fulham.

Since Demba Ba left in January we have been short of a striker and Newcastle have found it difficult to score, so we need another striker brought before Monday night, but the late news last night was that Newcastle were interested in 20 year-old Lille midfielder Florian Thauvin for €12M, and we were after him in January when he went to Lille for only €3.5M.

If we could ever talk to Mike Ashley(we can’t)  the first question we would have is what is your goal for Newcastle, what are your ambitions for the club?

The answer should be we are aiming to be a top four club in England, but to do that we need to spend a lot more money than it seems Mike is willing to spend – and we have to show so much more ambition than we’ve shown this summer.

And we have to stop Alan Pardew from keep saying we cannot compete financially with other clubs.

But there again if the truth be told – the list of clubs we cannot compete with seems to be growing and now includes smaller clubs like Southampton, Swansea, Norwich Fulham and West Ham, as well as the top six –  the two Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham.

If you say it enough times you start to believe it,  and we wonder what our players think?

We’ve also liked a lot of Bill Shankly’s quotes, and this is what the former great Liverpool manager said:

“Aim for the sky and you’ll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you’ll stay on the floor.”

So where are Newcastle aiming for this summer – and while we don’t know what the answer is – we’re sure we’re not aiming for the ceiling.

It seems being in the top half of the table and not being relegated is what Mike Ashley’s aims are – and anything else is a bonus – and then we’ll stay in the big money of the Premier League.

Is that all that’s important for Newcastle – staying in the big money and hoping for the best?

But here are two of Bull Shankly’s quotes that are relevant at Newcastle

“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it’s much more serious than that.”

That’s not true than at Newcastle,  where football results decide the mood of the fans – and Newcastle have some of the best fans and the best support in the country,  and finishing in the top ten is simply not good enough.

We have to think a lot bigger than we’re thinking at the moment to be true to Newcastle’s great history.

Another of  Bill’s quotes:

“A lot of football success is in the mind. You must believe you are the best and then make sure that you are.”

Newcastle have to think they can beat the top sides, because if we don’t think we can win – we’ll not win – it’s really as simple as that.

And we’re sick of Alan Pardew reminding fans we cannot compete.

Why can’t we compete with our fianncials looking very good these days, and when teams like Norwich, Swansea,Southampton, West Ham and Fulham are spending some big money and showing more ambition than Newcastle.

We risk becoming a middle of the table side, and as Bill says in his first quote,  if we aim for mediocrity then we’ll probably end up fighting relegation – again.

This is simply not good enough for a club as great as Newcastle United – not good enough at all.

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42 comments so far

  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #1


  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #2

    Seems like most you’ve had enough too
    Can’t blame ya!

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #3

    Let me tell you a conspiracy Theory.

    Ashley will keep taking money out of the club, the money the club earns i.e. the profit through sales or revenues

    The Interest free loan will remain the same. approx 140 million pounds

    Any buyer will have to inherit the loan which they will never agree to.

    Those who think ashley has not made the money from the club are seriously sadly mistaken.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #4

    So people want us to sign Thauvin? A Frenchman who has gone on strike at his club because they haven’t allowed him to move. Yet many of those same fans are ready to vilify Cabaye for what is reported to be the same thing, although we don’t really know if he is on strike, or has been kept out.

    Funny how the club are ‘getting tough’ on Cabaye now that there doesn’t appear to be a buyer anymore. Or is it more to do with the fact that Ashley didn’t want him picking up an injury to prevent a sale, and now there is no bidders, he may as well play?

    This has probably been done to death the last few days, but as I have been lying in bed in a malarial fever I have missed it all!

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #5

    Well said Lilo

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #6

    Have to say not to bothered about Thauvin when players like Boudebouz are available for an apparantly fee of £3-4 mil, but unfortunately apparantly he’s going to Southampton and we simply can’t compete with these big clubs……

    But your right the lads attitude must surely put us off? Terrible way to act if your a professional

  • archaeomag

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #7

    Sorry , – but this is GB – we have taxes, accountants, auditors, and regulations in this country . .

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #8

    Scott Wilson ?@Scottwilsonecho 8s
    Also from today’s Echo: Alan Pardew fears #NUFC’s biggest names could be at risk from deadline-day domino effect.

  • joeinthecheapseats

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #9

    Can see JFK and Ashley getting abuse at today’s match over the lack of signings and rightly so.
    Looking forward to seeing Remy at some stage this afternoon and Cabaye and Tiote need to be on the bench after the decent performances of Anita and Sissoko last week

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #10


    No need for Finance men, but this can be done in plain sight.

    Taking Money out and keeping loan constant.

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #11

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 1m
    L’Equipe: Lille are now happy to sell Florian Thauvin to Marseille, even if they reject the €12m latest offer they claim. #OM #LOSC

  • stuart no9

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #12

    just been looking at other teams – the players they have and how they have coped in the first 2 games.Yes its early doors, but the one thing that freightens me is – i cant see a side where i can honestely say’ yep we have the beatings of them , not one..
    Am i the only one who can see one big scrap ahead before we eventually go down ? The team is not good enough, they will be in for a right scrap whoever we play.The managemant are scrapping amongst themselves to claim bragging rites, they all say they are working together, they are not. Then there is us fans who do nowt but argue wiyh each other ! nowt wrong with that , but it is for all the wrong reasons . everything about nufc at the moment is one big fight – it will end in tears – it has to.

  • jayphoto

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #13

    @indian – completely agree with that! If anyones wondering why our revenue is so far behind spurs, its because Ashley has all the revenue streams diverted up as different businesses therefor things like the matchday food n drink, clubshop etc are their own businesses and the money doesn’t go into the club in the first place! Its pretty common with some of my clients, they have 1 company split into 4 or 5 mini companies, 1 making profit and the others losing it and then loan money from the profit making company to the loss making companies! It can really cut the cost of tax bills etc but itd mean a lot of revenue wouldnt see the clubs books

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #14

    So pardew has basically, 3 days before the window shuts, come out and said he’s powerless to keep players
    Great way to pump the team up before kick off

    Seriously what other team anywhere advertise themselves as so weak and vulnerable!


    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #15

    boreng day jst like a boreng co**rd owner n his puppys

  • Howden Mag

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #16

    86Howden Mag // Aug 31, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    I will be there today with my wife and we will be supporting the team. There are too many negative comments about the game. We will have a good side on the grass, what they need is confidence. We can help by being positive and supportive. There are some sitting near to me who pick fault at everything, passing too short, too long, too slow, too fast and yet will not praise any good play because they have decided they want us to be poor. It’s the same with the players, he’s shoite etc then complain if one gets subbed. Today let’s give support to the team.


    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #17

    ben arfa may goo… , set ashley on fire tonight

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #18


    Its a common financial principle I studied, Many companies have subsidiaries and 1 out of them will have UNLIMITED LIABILITY and that helps other Subsidiaries getting money.

  • jayphoto

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #19

    Thauvin is well worth 10m! Hes a sensible lad too! Hes worried about moving too far from his family in corsica and his form suffering due to not adapting because he feels hes too young!
    He wants out of Lille because when he signed he was told they would battle for the title! He signed for Rudi Garcia who then left, hes also dismayed that players like digne and payet have been sold or will be sold! He feels that lille lied through their back teeth to sign him!
    Hes an outside bet for the world cup squad and playing at Marseille would give him the very best chance of doing that!

  • jayphoto

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #20

    Also, im guessing its hard to give up living in the south of france to move to someone cold and rainy 🙂


    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #21

    Howden Mag

    ya go feed the owner… let him destroy the club… be loyal to him n he’l giv u a treat in league 1

  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #22

    Lilongwe…at this point wouldn’t you say you are clinging to a straw of make believe if you keep kidding yourself that Cabaye is being kept from playing from us because of a “pending” transfer???

    …maybe a “strike” is not the right word, but he clearly didn’t want to play! Whether or not he would have played if told to we don’t know, but chances are it would not have been worth our while having a player on the field that didn’t want to be there.

  • stuart no9

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #23

    howden – maybe those sitting next to can see something you cant ????no disrespect but you turning up with your wife is not going to make the team great . 200,000 could cram in SJP and we still couldnt score.

  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #24

    Indian i read that artical did you see the bit when pardumb said he bumped into colo at training bloody hell its not as if he was taking a stroll along the beach and bumped into him who did he expect to see at training carrick.

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #25


    From what i understand, he does not take training at all.

  • Howden Mag

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #26

    Lot of insight there. Do you make a fortune reading palms or have a magic crystal ball. What’s the lottery numbers for tonight?
    My team are playing, I will support my team, I want my team to win.
    Where are you watching?

  • nico

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #27


    There’s no way Ashley can stream the profits of the club like that. Accountants would see through that with a club / organisation the size of Newcastle. Yes, there’s possibly a bit of skimming somewhere along the lines but nothing massive.
    I think he’s just paying off the loan season by season, keeping us in the top flight until the loan is paid. Then he will probably sell, as he’ll own Rangers by then.
    At this rate, might take him another 3/4 seasons to get his loan back. That’s 4 seasons of 15th place finishes.

  • blew

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #28

    There are too many Frenchmen on the books
    and all we apparently look at are the same.
    We struggled last season with them and will
    do so this season.
    France is a very poor footballing nation at
    present with only Frank Ribery world class.
    They are ranked 23rd in the world, England
    are 14th – that will tell you how bad France
    is! Only 2 of our 11 Frenchmen are in the
    French squad, the rest, well.
    In conclusion, we are not getting bargains constantly
    signing French players, they are inferior in world

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #29

    Of the 17 teams how many do you think we can double this season?

  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #30


    Thats the biggest joke of all really managers should be hands on

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #31

    Clearly didn’t want to play? Looking at the photos posted on various sites of him training this week with the squad he looks happy as Larry to be back playing. All smiles and laughing with his teammates. Hardly what you’d expect from someone sulking and playing and training against their will.

    I agree he wants away, but I’m fairly certain he would have played and been just as competent as anyone else selected. Feilaini has reportedly said he wants away, but he managed to score on Wednesday. The difference between the 2 situations is we named our price Everton say they don’t want to sell.

    It is more likely he was prevented from playing then refused to play.

  • Howden Mag

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #32

    Stuart no 9
    I see the same game, good and bad. It has been poor but I don’t go with the intention of slagging the team off. You are right though my wife and I wouldn’t be any better than those selected. At least I go and can form my own opinion.

  • spitfire_

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #33

    I can’t even look this prick on the picture… hope to drop dead asap.

  • ArtyH

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #34

    Surely Ashley is proving to be an UNFIT owner of the football club! How times have changed as well as attitudes. I no longer look forward to games now and felt the same last season. However I feel the need to look and see how the club is doing, its really sad, a bit like when you have to make up your mind to end a friendship or relationship must be.


    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #35

    We need a win today, and if that does,nt happen, the writing will more or less be on the cards!

    The Scum are away to Palace, and just the thought of them getting three points with us only drawing does,nt bear thinking about.

    The Swans are away to the Baggies tomorrow, and if they win it will see us propping up the table three games into the Season by Monday morning?

    Remy seems to be making a habit of signing for struggling clubs in the Prem, i for one still don,t trust him even if he comes on and scores for us!
    He is after all, still a QPR player. Can anyone on here see him signing a permanent deal at seasons end? because i certainly can,t.

    Whats the betting that Bent comes on as a sub for the Cottagers and scores, the 1-2 for them !

    I hate to say this, but our total lack of Ambition, Goalscorers and activity in the Transfer market has been well documented and widely reported, in ther press since the Mad week in January when we were big favourites to join QPR and Wigan down in The Champ!

    As far as i can see, no lessons have been learned here, not by the Trainer who is still picking the same starting eleven and also not by the Owners, who could,nt arrange a Piss-up in a brewery, it seems!

    Compare this if you will, with the rest of the League who have gone about their business, strengthening their Squads, most of had Pre-Seasons in far away lands or at least in Europe!

    All this is difficult for me to get my head around, where i used to look forward to my Saturdays, i now find myself Dreading them !

    However, i still will be supporting them, come Championship, League 1, or perish the thought, even lower.
    How low can they GO?

  • Mag52

    Aug 31, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #36

    Firstly let’s all hope that Cabaye plays today as well as we know he can, and that he has been held back from previous matches in the hope of selling him.
    As for Pardew’s comment about not being able to compete financially with other clubs – what other conclusion can the guy come to when he sees our fellow relegation contenders ( yes, I’m afraid it looks like this) buying in players while NUFC, in spite of the owner being one of the wealthiest owners in the premiership, seem prepared to spend nowt.
    To take Shankly’s quote one step further, where do you end up if you aim for the floor ?

  • ArtyH

    Aug 31, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #37

    As much as I think Pardew is a poor manager tactics wise, its in his best interest to do well for the club, its just he is incapable of it. Ashley on the other hand gave him a 7 year contract, which I am sure has some part to play in the lack of spending now, after all would he be throwing good money after bad? In the bigger picture Mr Carr has recommended most of these signings, was he right or wrong?
    We want to know what is going on at the club, and when Pardew speaks he gets slated ( I’m guilty too ) for what he says. However I think he is finally growing a set and his attitude is changing ( maybe he is sick of it or thinks the axe will fall soon ) hence the him saying the squad need more players and its not his remit anymore it’s Joke’s ha ha.
    Not looking forward to todays game as I think its only destiny that Bent will be instrumental in our downfall. Heaven knows I hope I am wrong! HTLS

  • Geordie1

    Aug 31, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #38

    I’m sick of the local press up sucking up to fat boy too afraid to go against him just in case he tries to sue them. Maybe we should all send Writs to Ashley for “Deformation of the name Newcastle Untited”. We as supporters have to find a way to rid ourselves of this grotesque tyrant.

  • andrew84

    Aug 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #39

    I despair! We have a decent first 11, with quite a good bench on occasion, but Pardew could make a Ford Zephyr out of a Rolls Royce.

    The game on Wednesday was shocking until the second half, I honestly thought Morecambe played like they were a division above us, and credit to them for that.

    Pardew blows a load of hot air to the press, conditioning us into believing we’re a poor team, all this “A big club can always coem in for our players, we have to be on guard”. All this when, two years ago, he was saying we’re now up there with the likes of Everton.

    That said, I’d be quite happy to settle for survival for the next 3 years or so, as long as it would mean we’ll get shot of Ashley. It’s the not knowing what his intentions are that’s driving me mad.

    On the whole, I’m disgusted with the way these parasites are bringing our club down.

  • miggy

    Aug 31, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #40



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