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Manchester United In Late Bid For Yohan Cabaye

3:07 pm, Monday, September 2nd, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 440 Comments

There is a report in SportsDirectNews that Manchester United will come in with a bid for Yohan Cabaye today – but the Manchester club will need to bid the full £25M to get Cabaye, and then who are we going to sign to replace him?

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Yohan Cabaye - Manchester United now interested

It seems that that Manchester United have missed out on a number of their targets,  and David Moyes is anxious to add some creativity to his central midfield, and it could be that Yohan Cabaye is now his top target – but it’s getting a little late in the transfer window – with only eight hours to go.

It’s also thought that the Red Devils are trying to get deals completed for Everton’s Belgian International midfielder Marouane Fellaini, who will probably sign today.

And the Manchester club  are also trying to sign Juan Mata from Chelsea, but the Blues would be unwise to sell one of their best players to their Premier League competitors.

And there is also news that Manchester United are closing in on the signing of Athletic Bilbao midfielder Ander Herrera for a massive £31M fee, so maybe Cabaye is only a standby,  in case they cannot pull off these deals – which seem to be a higher priority.

But  if Manchester United do come in late for Cabaye,  they will need to bid £25M in cool cash, and if Newcastle cannot sign an adequate replacement in the time available, then we shouldn’t sell Cabaye – that would be ludicrous and so late in the transfer window.

What do you think?

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440 responses so far ↓

  • 1 dubzy // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    MIKE ASHLEY IS A 1ST CLASS WANKER ….THERE U GO I SAID IT …..NEXT !!

  • 2 jokinoot // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Sports direct news we know how reliable that is

  • 3 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Sports Direct = budget sports gear and budget news. The only thing that’s quality about it is the football club they’re lucky enough to be associated with…

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Being turned into a colander by porcupine needles isvto good for Ashley.

  • 5 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    They aren’t stupid enough to sell Cabaye at 11pm at night. If a bid comes in too late it’ll be rejected. Don’t be cynical.

  • 6 Indian Magpie // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 1m
    BREAKING: According to reports flagged up by @CyrilOlives, PSG are negotiating for Juan Mata! #PSG #CFC

  • 7 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    While our lot are umming and aahing to get a player in at the right price, the mackems are doing completely the opposite!

    They will probably have signed about 15 players this window when it’s all done and dusted. Ridiculous!

    I’m sure I could get a bunch of mates to go see loads of matches and training over a few weeks, sign 15 that looked good and were available for a good price and know that a few of them would pay off! I’d rather sign 2 quality players than 15 possibles.

  • 8 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    No truth in this at all as they have agreed fee’s for two midfielders already Fellaini and the lad from spain

  • 9 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Come off it Ed!!! You know that sdn is full of sh1t. Remember our Rooney bid earlier in the window???

  • 10 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Bollox.

  • 11 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    I haven’t been this disgusted in a window since i spotted by elderly neighbour unfurling her breasts from her bra in the bedroom.

  • 12 lesh // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    For hells sake, when will all this speculation end. The amount of energy that’s been generated and wasted during this window would power Newcastle for a year!

    Kinnear and Ashley have been a damned disgrace.

  • 13 Novocastrian66 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    We going to swap Cabaye for Rooney. It all makes sense now.

  • 14 richyg01 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    absolute tosh!

  • 15 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Lovely, mojo. Just lovely. I now have to bleach my brain

  • 16 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Mojo… :)

  • 17 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    TDS

    Mannone, Celustka (Ln), Roberge, Diakite, Dossena (Ln), Cabral, Ki (Ln), Ba, Giaccherini, Mavrias, Karlsson, Altidore, Borini (Ln).

    How many of those would you want us to sign? I’d only take Giaccherini of all them, maybe Altidore or Ki on loan.

    They’ve lost Mignolet, N’Diaye, Rose and possibly Sessegnon. Pretty much their best players from last season apart from Fletcher.

    Conclusion: They’re in deeper doo-doo than us.

  • 18 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    TDS
    True
    But we haven’t signed 2 quality players though have we

  • 19 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Cabaye staying will be spun as a great window.

    Pardew: I’d like to thank Mike for holding firm and not accepting any bids for Yohan. Blah blah blah.

  • 20 lesh // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    MrMojoRisin76…. Priceless and I haven’t laughed as much since me granny got her tits caught in the mangle!

  • 21 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    lesh

    It will end at 11pm tonight. Simple.

  • 22 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Belfast…I think even Pardew is getting fed up with it tbh. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him use that as an exact quote, including ending with “blah blah blah”.

  • 23 TacoFlavoredKisses ForMyBen-arfa // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    made up story, no bid coming.. Sports direct (MA Media) make it seam like there is tons of interest for cabaye so when he doesnt sell they can tell the fans they CHOSE to keep him .When in reality, hes not that good and no one wants him at 20 mil. let alone 25!!! its to divert attention from the fact they are not bringing anyone in.

  • 24 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    you can criticise the type of players that Sunderland are signing but what you can not criticise is the fact that the Sunderland owner is going all out to back his manager and give their club the best possible chance this season, while Ashley is yet again gambling with our future

  • 25 jokinoot // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Hurry up 11pm and we can put all speculation to bed JFK all I can say to you is you have made this club the laughing stock of the premier league just leave before you do anymore damage you and your mate Cashley

  • 26 Ted Bundy // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Well, I’m looking on the bright side of our barren transfer dealings. It’s the clearest indication yet Mash is looking to recover the debt and move on – the more comes off that, the more the asking price for the club reduces. If we finish top 10 this season, with no outlay, a boost in profits from TV and the reduction of the wage bill – then I’m sure we’d make a profit of around £30-40m – he either uses that to take a considerable chunk off the debt, or if he doesn’t do that, has no excuse to provide a handsome transfer kitty next season. Personally I think he’s looking at an exit strategy – if that’s the case, it’d be nice to know that the next 3 season’s windows, at least, are going to be based on trading and loans, with that 30-40m set aside, whilst he recoups what he feels he is owed, all the while making us a more attractive proposition to buyers, instead of stringing the fans along every time.

    Isn’t a palatable thought, but probably where we’re at..

  • 27 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    what number house is that expose event happening at

  • 28 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    OhSholaAmeobi

    And they’ve got a crazy manager who slags off their captain when he just made a simple mistake and slags off their striker for being a coward (which was actually fair – but should have been done in private).

    They have a few players that could be decent (Borini, Giaccherini and Altidore) but I agree, they’re probably in trouble.

    No club signs that many players and expects them to gel, look at QPR last season!

    And they have 1 point from 3 games so far? :-)

  • 29 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    TADS

    Nope. We have 1.

    And we’re all going to be mightily p*ssed off if that’s all we get after a having our hopes raised at various points of the window.

  • 30 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    If you think that is bad i have been working on an r-rated parody of a popular Robbie Williams song.Not finished yet would you like to hear it?,needs a bit of work.

  • 31 LooneyToon41 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    NUFC launch bid for Watford Keeper Jonathan Bond.
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-fc-launch-deadline-5829553?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  • 32 lesh // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Aye Tads, the window’ll close at 11 but the blood-letting’ll start at 11.01.

    Oh what fun it is being a toon fan. Never ending myrrh and joy…. It’s enough to drive anybody to drink!

  • 33 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    The only reason Sunderland are signing so many is because Di Canio wants to stamp his influence on the club and get rid of O’Neill’s.

    They don’t have a great keeper, a proper left back (until Dossena signs), or a creative centre mid.

    Don’t compare us to them because when we sign players we at least try and go for quality. I’d rather we didn’t splurge £20m on squad players and instead sorted out the left wing/forward position with one quality one.

  • 34 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    What a surprise Mike Ashley’s budget businesses website is now advertising our players as well as cheap football socks!

  • 35 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Mojo…Go on then, let us have it.

    TDSarf…One…on loan. Still, there’s over 7 hours….ha, once upon a time I believed a deal could be concluded in that time.

  • 36 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Pardew: We’re always vulnerable to the big clubs you know, but Mike was strong and he said no.

    All hail Mike the great leader !!

  • 37 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    JackButler

    It’s all well and good backing your manager, but what’s the point when your manager is a nutcase who clearly can’t pick a top player so is just signing loads and hope some of them turn out ok.

    We’ve seen this before from lots of clubs (QPR last season) and it normally backfires, the club gets relegated and takes a few years to come back.

    I’d rather have an owner that sticks to sensible football business principles than just throws cash around and gets us relegated. It might be exciting with all the new players, but is it best for the club?

    We all know what’s best for our club and that’s to sign AT LEAST one strong striker before the day is up.

  • 38 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Followed by some more blah blah blah Ibiza :)

  • 39 lesh // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Ted Bundy @25….. I’ll drink to that and the sooner the better!

  • 40 jokinoot // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Bet jokins watching deadline day to see who we bid for moron

  • 41 NUFC FOR SALE // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Did I or did I not tell you all this yesterday.

    Fellani signing doesn’t mean a thing they need 2 Central midfielders.

    Cabaye will be a Man Utd player by the end of today ans unless we get Hernandez we won’t be signing a striker.

  • 42 WWSBRD // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Where’s Karl Pilkonton in his superhero form?! He should have a office at Benton not Kinnear

  • 43 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    TDS

    Something brown is gonna hit the fan down there if Sessegnon goes. Imagine if we sell Ben Arfa today – there would be riots worse than in London :S

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Mr Mojo
    Go on lad serenade us!!!!

  • 45 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Belfast…Probably where this talk of Ba returning actually came from.

    Someone over heard Pardew walking around going “Blah, blah, blah” and thought he was going “Ba, Ba, Ba”…mind, he might of been signing Ba Ba Black Sheep to himself…you know, going to his happy place….

  • 46 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Ibizatoon

    But we know the club is coy about how they are progressing in the transfer market. As far as we know they’re either doing bugger all or we’re really close to several players. It’s frustrating, but what can we do other than wait?

    If we end the window with no outgoings and just Remy in, I don’t think it will be a terrible window, but it definitely won’t be a good one. I’d give it a 4 out of 10. Getting Gomis would make it a 6, getting Gomis and Ince would make it an 8.

  • 47 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    “sensible football business principles”

    Does that mean spending as little as possible or panic buying when failing to invest in the squad almost gets us relegated?

    Whats best for the club if for Ashley and co to see us as a football club and not simply an advertising tool for SportsDirect.

  • 48 Keith in France // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Wow -this is going to be the signing worth waiting for!
    NUFC launch deadline day bid for Watford keeper Bond
    2 Sep 2013 14:38
    Newcastle United have launched a deadline day bid to sign young Watford goalie Jonathan Bond.

  • 49 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    “Sailors” by Robbie Williams
    “And through it all,he offered me protection,incase i got an infection,a crust around my bum,what’s happened to my balls? i hope that that is gravy,that marrow’s going to break me,and the rugby ball,he won’t re-stich me.I’m loving sailors instead”
    What do you think?,i’m entertaining a 7yr olds birthday party next week and i wanted something with the “wow” factor.

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    SSN have liverpool as favourite for mata

    Sky sports spanish journo – guilham baalgauy (spelling awful) says man utd to complete deal for athletico madrid midfieder (herrera….again spelling awful)

  • 51 alka // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Could someone please tell me and many, many thousands of others, just what is that cockney tosser JFK doing for his wages. He must be provung to be the biggest waste of money in the club.

  • 52 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    I’v been sat watching sky sports news since 7 oclock and i’v yet to see anything to do with NUFC.

    Is anyone at work at the club today???

  • 53 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Happy to just stay in the division Tds.
    Explains the lack of players last summer and the major panic buying in January in my opinion.

    Hopefully one day he will get bored and sell up.

  • 54 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    TDSarf…Aye, I mentioned this the other day. I get why they’re secretive, but they can’t honestly expect everyone to just stay calm and trust that they’re doing what is needed. Been there, done that, didn’t go so well.

    I said at the beginning of this window they needed to show some actual intent, where has it been? Just more of the same so far.

    Still, we shall wait 7 and a half hours and hope we’re surprised, don’t see too much happening though.

    Either way, injuries / confidence permitting, we do have a better squad than a fair few other teams in the league and shouldn’t be relegation fodder. Remy could well be the missing piece, but we’re gambling on injuries again.

    I really want to know what lesson was learnt last season?

  • 55 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Bond hat trick on his debut. Heard it here first, folks!

  • 56 damma99 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Couple of signings= possible good season
    No signings = another crap season. Siiiiimple.

  • 57 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    OhSholaAmeobi

    Sessegnon was their best player a couple of years ago but was a bit crap last year until towards the end. A decent manager should be able to get him firing again but I don’t think Di Canio is the type of person to put effort into motivating someone.

    They’ve only got Fletcher left who’s any good!

  • 58 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    and knocked back bid for bond

  • 59 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Since when has there ever been a big fuss around signing someone in the Ashley era?

    A signing will come, and it’ll be quiet and efficient.

  • 60 Keith in France // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Alka – apart from taking up a lot of bloggers time -sweet FA

  • 61 pawl250 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Hoping we can get a striker in.

    Don’t think Gomis is coming, Ba is a possibility.

    Think my personal choice would be Wjnaldum (£8-10m) though.

    Ba £7m would be enough to get Chelsea to sell, ultimatley meaning we paid £3.5m for Ba overall.

    OR Guidetti would be a nice shout, must be cheap enough these days considering Joetivic, Aguero, Dzeko, Negredo all standing in his way!

  • 62 noladonna // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Cabs is going nowhere who’s gonna pay 25 million for him?! No-one cause he ain’t worth it. Another summer with no investment Jesus Christ so depressing oh well least the squads better than last year just missing a striker and a wide man

  • 63 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    TDS

    Their whole season hinges on keeping Fletcher and Altidore fit and hoping Johnson starts turning up

  • 64 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    JackButler

    It means not blowing money on cr*p players.

    We know where the money goes from seeing the accounts. It will either go into investment into the club or it will go to pay of Ashley’s loans to the club. Either way, it’s a positive thing. At least Ashley isn’t paying himself a huge salary for doing so little.

  • 65 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    IWantCurlyHair2™ ?@Iwantcurlyhair2 1m

    Those who think Mike Ashley is good for NUFC simply haven’t been around long enough. At least Westwood wore an eye-patch #Pirates

    :)

    Prodigy…Would it make much difference if they are?

    Mojo…”Wow” will certainly feature imo.

  • 66 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Just watched SSN for about 40 mins. They mentioned practically every club in the country, from all different leagues except Newcastle…..

    ….Nothing to see here….

  • 67 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Antoine Sibierski on a free!

  • 68 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Ibizatoon

    Relegation shouldn’t even be a consideration! Our squad is easily good enough for top 10. Since the beginning of last season, we’ve lost Ba, Simpson, Perch and Harper from the first team but replaced them with Remy, Debuchy, Sissoko, Goofy, MYM, Haidara and Dummett.

    The squad is simply much better on paper! People can say all they like about players like Tiote and Cisse not playing well but if we can get them to play anywhere near as well as they did when we finished 6th then a top 8 place should be the target.

  • 69 richyg01 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Paris St-Germain hope to open talks with Chelsea’s 25-year-old midfielder Juan Mata tonight with a view to a move to the French capital, report L’Equipe on their website.

  • 70 pawl250 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Guidetti would be a perfect player for us. I would imagine 6m-8m would get him from City.

    He would have a high re sale value given his age, perfect.

    Would be my new number 1 target, him and Wjnaldum would be a dream window!

    Think we need some English blood in Jan, along with Gomis for half the asking price!

  • 71 Ben3arfa // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Its blowing up on twitter – NUFC fans are frustrated to the point that some are targeting local journos.

    I can see riots soon

  • 72 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Ibizatoon

    As for lessons…I really don’t know. I’d like to think that they’re very close to just putting pen to paper on a player or two but I really don’t have faith in that.

    It’s all well and good being close to closing a deal for the likes of Gomis and so on but Ashley should know in business that 99% closed means nothing.

  • 73 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    I can’t understand why any player would want to leave the premier league to go to France. It’s shit

  • 74 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Ibiza,

    Lolz.

    We need a striker through the door today. Then we can let Shola go.

    Reckon JK is busy? This deadline day is terrible so far for the Toon. Zero news.

    David Craig is apparantly heading over to NUFC this afternoon.

  • 75 mindshaft // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Seems a few on here would be happy for toon to buy anybody much like Sunderland have done – I’d prefer top sign one player who will actually improve the team rather than the Sunderland route of buying a complete load of rubbish which then sit on your books taking wages for years

    Unfortunately it looks like we’re not prepared to offer a decent wedge or wages for anyone never mind someone good

    reckon 23:00 will come and go with no players in or out for us

  • 76 Blofal // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Imagine if WE had ambition and were bidding for Mata. I’m sure there is a parallel universe out there somewhere where this possibility may occur.

  • 77 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    We are not signing anyone, crap or otherwise.

    Oh, hang on I seem to remember us being here before roughly twelve months ago and I also seem to remember Ashley panic buying in January to get us out of the mess that he created!

    I can’t understand how you or anyone else can openly stand behind Ashley as he continues to make fools of every single one of us and runs this club on the least amount of money possible while he makes million off our backs

  • 78 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    bring on the january panic buys

  • 79 gndtoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Guttiede agent is the scums DOF or has some role in their new hierary, I belive

  • 80 p // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    I doubt anyone is coming now; maybe ayew based on rhe fact thauvin is incoming for 12m and marseille may want to claw some of that back

    Thats very poor but at least the squad is stronger than last season with no europe

    I also thing mackems, hammers and fulham are all worse than us

  • 81 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    TDSarf…Problem is, relegation last season involved almost everyone from 8th down. I think it was just over 10 points difference between 8th and 18th, 3 or 4 games worth of points.

    I have put down most of our playing problems down to confidence. So for me, the real question is, why is the team so low of it?

    Is it Pardew?
    Is it the clubs lack of ambition?

    Either way, Ashley has done nothing to resolve it. This worries me a lot.

    On transfers, I know we got a fair few players in January, but we had already started the season light of quality in depth. Our bench may be better for it, a little, but I do feel if the injuries start stacking up again we’ll be in trouble.

    I’m trying not to be down about things, but it seems that the club are happy to take the same risks again as last year. It may turn out okay, but it’s guesswork at this point, for everyone. For the people running the club to approach it that way is unacceptable for me, especially after they’ve said they knew it was a mistake.

  • 82 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    JackButler

    The only time you can perceive me as defending Ashley is when people like you may daft comments like that.
    1 – he’s not making fools of the fans, he’s just running a business
    2 – our wage bill was the 7th highest in the PL in the last figures released
    3 – he hasn’t paid himself a penny in wages as far as the last accounts show

    People talk about the Sports Direct signs at the club but they’re not worth a huge amount of money anyway and considering the interest free loans and him not taking a salary, I’d say that’s a small price to pay. The stadium was never really properly renamed anyway so I don’t care about that

    He’s just running the club as a business, it’s as simple as that.

  • 83 p // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    I don’t think jan were panic buys, they are all decent players at reasonable prices

  • 84 eaststandgeordie1982 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    “We tried”
    “Cabaye staying is like a new signing”
    “We should thank mike that we didnt sell”
    “Agents spoilt things for us”
    “The window is just not long enough”
    (Unlike the grass at ibrox of course)

  • 85 archaeomag // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    I would take £10 mil + Wayne Rooney for Cabaye !

  • 86 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Prodigy…JK probably needed a lie in after the big move. Good of them to let Sky know they wouldn’t be there this morning but to make sure they catch all the excitement this afternoon ;)

    I really do hope they prove me wrong. I’d love nothing more. I still wouldn’t feel badly for having doubt, it’s nothing less than they deserve for the past two months of rubbish.

    It stinks of last summer. Can’t get the deal on out terms, we’ll wait until January…we’ll be fine until then. Just sign one or two now, rather than 5 in January. Give us a proper chance.

  • 87 Transfer Sage // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    TDS

    any link to these accounts?

    just know people use them to defend him and slate him but never seen where they are avilable.

  • 88 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Jack

    I understand.
    It’s the thrusting spirit of free enterprise you describe, and if that’s what floats your boat, you’ll applaud a successful businessman before a successful football club any day of the week.

  • 89 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Ibizatoon

    You say we’re light, but we have:
    GK – Krul, Elliott
    FB – Santon, Debuchy, Dummett, Haidara
    CB – Colo, MYM, Saylor, Willo
    CM – Cabaye, Tiote, Anita, Sissoko
    Wing/AM – Ben Arfa, Marv, Remy, Goofy, Jonas
    ST – Cisse, Ameobi

    Plus there are others like Gosling, Bigi, Vuckic, Obertan and Sammy to fill in when required.

    Ok, I’d rather see someone like Gomis instead of Ameobi, I’d rather see Jonas on the bench rather than starting and I’d rather see someone like Ince instead of Marv but it’s not that bad.

    We are definitely in trouble if Cisse gets injured and I really think we need more goal threats as it’s too easy to mark Cisse out of a game.

  • 90 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    SSN Jordan Rhodes-Wigan 6m verbal offer so far.

  • 91 yo-yo // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Now we all know why Ashley appointed Joke-in-Ear as DoF at the Toon. His main duty is to bring in new players – so he picked the top guy to deliver on his plans – we aren’t signing anybody. Joke is good at not signing players – problem solved..

  • 92 darrenfletcher88 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Same old toon!!! Always let us down

  • 93 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    @Ibiza 79
    We started last season with 15 extra games to play in the EL and you’re right we didn’t have the squad to cope with that and injuries (the worst in the league).
    But this season we start with the 5 from January plus Remy instead of Ba, Perch and Simpson and no EL.
    There’s no comparison.

  • 94 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    TS

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130327/united-announce-accounts_2281670_3123536

    AND

    http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/04/newcastle-uniteds-full-accounts-online-and-broken-down/#.UiSmbttwZZE

  • 95 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    1 – he’s not making fools of the fans, he’s just running a business – Really? Do you honestly believe that? The constant lie’s are okay then are they???
    2 – our wage bill was the 7th highest in the PL in the last figures released – Our wage bill is the 7th highest but our club was almost relegated, something has to be wrong there then and he’s done sweet FA to address it.
    3 – he hasn’t paid himself a penny in wages as far as the last accounts show – So where the hell has all the money gone???

    And if you think for one single second that he’s not making anything form the club or free advertising he gets then you really are deluded.

    Best of luck to you mate, if you are happy to stand behind a man who is happy for us to simply exist

  • 96 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    TS

    Sorry. My post on those links is awaiting moderation…I guess because I had to post a rival’s blog! I’ll see if that works and try something else if not.

  • 97 pawl250 // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    1. Krul HG
    2. Elliot HG
    3. Alnwick U21 HG

    4. Debuchy
    5. Mbiwa
    6. Coloccini
    7. STaylor HG
    8. Williamson
    9. Haidara U21
    10. Santon
    11. Dummett HG
    12. Good U21
    13. RTaylor HG
    14. Street U21 HG

    15. Cabaye
    16. Anita
    17. Jonas
    18. Marveaux
    19. Ben Arfa
    20. Obertan
    21. Sissoko
    22. Tiote
    23. Gosling HG
    24. Vuckic HG?
    25. Amalfitano
    26. Bigirmana U21 HG
    27. Sammy U21 HG

    28. Remy
    29. Cisse
    30. Gouffran
    31. Shola HG
    32. Campbell U21 HG

    Loaned Out
    33. Ferguson HG
    34. Abeid

    I do not think its a bad squad, we are talking 2 players would make it a strong squad. Preferably in the striker/winger roles.

    As stated Gomis, Ba or Guidetti (1 of them) and Wjnaldum would be prefect.

  • 98 Rooster // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    At this moment in time, are we really going to FCUK this summer window up again?/? one loan signing and even if Cabaye stays only makes us at very very best a win loose and draw team, infact take Ben Arfa OUT OF THE EQUATION AND WE ARE NOT EVEN THAT, HE IS THE ONLY PLAYER WILLING TO HAVE AGO AND MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN, saved us with assists in the league cup, and again with his individual play on Saturday, Remy does look a real top kid but if this the extent of our dealings in this window, then it is quite frankly the most embarrassed I have been in a long long time, is it yet again the January window scenario?? probably for Gomis and a n other.

    People are right when are we going to stop wining on about how unfair the transfer window is, and how we cannot compete, its utter bolloc.s.

    We all know the Horsecrap that is going to be spouted if we don’t get anyone else over the line, that is correct isn’t it, (trust me on that ) ALAN PARDEW N CO.

  • 99 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    smoke and mirrors its my money now run along and play

  • 100 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    BandB

    I simply want whats best for this club and Ashley has no interest or ambition in us other than to simply survive in the PL

  • 101 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    TS

    To make it easier…just Google Newcastle United accounts. There are several articles, some summarising and you can get the full accounts if you want them too. It’s for year 2011-12 as that’s the last one they did.

  • 102 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    79Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    TDSarf…Problem is, relegation last season involved almost everyone from 8th down. I think it was just over 10 points difference between 8th and 18th, 3 or 4 games worth of points.

    Ibiza your bang in there, the problem this season is that every club from 8th to 17th have done business and strengthened there squads well imo

    The fact Sunderland look sh1te is of little consolation as frankly apart from 15 minutes against Fulham so have we

  • 103 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    better still google pinnochios accounts very enjoyable read

  • 104 PMartel // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Lots of folk were talking about possible protests or a boycott not so long ago…how about a group of fans go to the ground tonight for deadline day with anti Kinnear and Ashley banners to show their disgust in our lack of ambition this summer; it would certainly make a statement live on television. The only problem is, I doubt the SSN cameras would even be there.

  • 105 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Pawl
    No it’s not a bad squad, but it’s not great either
    Assuming your relativity happy with the complete lack of ambition?

  • 106 archaeomag // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    @sage
    Re accounts
    there is plenty out there try

    http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/04/newcastle-uniteds-full-accounts-online-and-broken-down/#.UiSnhDash8E

  • 107 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    @JB
    Who do you envision buying us and what kind of owner would he be? If there was a 21st century John Hall with the money to compete then great, I’m all for it. But with the exception of City & Chelsea the rest tend to be in it for the money.

  • 108 Rooster // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Pawl, I often look at the squad and think hey that’s not bad at all, but again, if you take Ben Arfa out of the equation we are playing and looking frigan awful, last 25 was pretty good on Saturday, but before that it was woeful, just as against morcambe n west ham n City.

    Remy can SCORE GOALS FOR SURE BUT WE ARE JUST AT THE VERY BEST MID TABLE. at this moment unless their is a miraculous next 7 hours???????

  • 109 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    JackButler

    1 – Er…yeah. Because Ashley has better things to do than just take the p*ss out of football fans. What constant lies? He hardly damn well says anything, that’s part of the problem!!!
    2 – no point in arguing a different point. You said Ashley is running the club on very little money, my point was that’s rubbish. We had the 7th highest wage bill in the country when the last figures were released. I think that was for 2010-11.
    3 – the money has gone to pay the players and other bills! Our wage bill was 67% of revenue in the same season. And he took back some to pay off some of his loan.

    It’s all in the accounts. Read them.

    He has made very little from the club in terms of direct money and he could have made a lot more money in other ways. The most relevant way he’s benefited is legitimising his Sports Direct business.

  • 110 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Jack,

    I was backing you up. My deal with the club was always; “I’ll give you lots and lots of my money if you try to win a few matches and play the odd bit of decent football.” The rest, I’m not really interested in. Right now, we aren’t treated as customers, but as units to be exploited as efficiently as possible.

  • 111 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Felipe…Then if only to address the issue of confidence and to show some ambition to the players.

    I do consider myself to be quite level headed and reasonable, but this is a joke. It really wouldn’t have taken much and they could of bluffed themselves some more time.

    They really messed up last season imo and to say they’ve learnt and then not change anything seems bizarre.

    Just to be clear, I have never expected any huge signings this summer, not even a lot of them, but there are still areas of our team that need improving.

    ST and winger were my calls at the start of the season. Remy on loan is halfway there.

    It would seem both Pardew and Kinnear agreed we needed more in attack and have even said the same recently, so I don’t think I’m losing the plot here :)

    TDSarf…I think we’re okay, but light on the wing and up front. Have been saying the same thing all summer. I just think it’s been badly handled that’s all, especially after last summer. It may seem petty, but they had some damage to repair but don’t seem interested in doing so. Which is fine and within their right, but don’t expect people to be happy about it. They feel like they’re having the piss taken out of them.

    For a smart man, he’s missed a trick imo.

  • 112 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Felipe

    I simply want an owner who invests in the club in the hope of taking us forward and not simply to survive as Ashley is doing. An owner who builds on what we already have and treats the club, the fans, our history and the City with respect.

    I’m not asking for Ashley to go out and spend stupid money on players or wages, the transfer structure we have works as the players we have brought in are very, very good we simply need to use that structure more

  • 113 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Rooster

    Why do you type normally then, all of a sudden, START SHOUTING RANDOM SENTENCES before returning to normal?

  • 114 Barton // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    http://www.nufcblog.org/newcastle-united-accounts.pdf

  • 115 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    BandB

    i know that mate :D

  • 116 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Ibiza,

    It does stink of last summer, yep.

    Poor show, complete lack of ambition over the past couple of months.

    15-20 million on a winger and a striker to add depth to the squad would of been fine for me. This should of been just standard for this window, he is getting it for nothing through TV rights. Not as if he is dipping into his own pocket.

    Disgusting really.

    Looking at the squad we are mid-table, which I certaintly believe is the most he wants from us.

    Not much fun supporting this club at the moment mate.

  • 117 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Ibizatoon

    I’m not arguing there even in the slightest. I think that’s a very balanced and sensible way to put things. If we had made some early moves and tied up someone like Gomis and someone like Ince, then got Remy later on perhaps, we’d all be excited about the season and maybe still wondering if we were going to pull a rabbit out of a hat today. The mood would be very different.

    But it’s all down to results on the pitch. A few more wins and there will be irrational people on the blog talking up the chances of pushing for the CL!

  • 118 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Oh no.

    Why are we starting to talk about the fcuking accounts again. Its simple……

    Ashley = Money good, Football bad.

    No need for figures and graphs and stats et.c

  • 119 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    For me, there is a complete lack of clarity in direction from the club, so we’re left to assume what is going on, what we want or where we’re actually heading.

    One season we have a big push to be successful. A good window, good feeling within the squad, etc etc.

    We then do well, don’t push on, struggle and end it by going “phew, thank the heavens that’s over”.

    Then we get in JK, telling us how him and Mike are going to get us back where the fans want us to be…fighting for CL places…which is followed up with one loan signing?

    So many mixed signals, it’s no wonder people question them.

  • 120 Ben3arfa // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    People must also hold Lee Charneley who is a smoggy supporter to account, he has done nothing to help sign anyone.

  • 121 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Who’s strengthened? Not including the top 5.

    Cardiff have tried – decentish team but will struggle.
    Hull have tried – same as above.
    Palace – pretty much dead on for the drop.
    Sunderland haven’t.
    We haven’t.
    Villa have considerably but all young’uns.
    Southampton splashed cash but still fragile in defence.
    Stoke haven’t really – relegation candidates.
    Fulham – Parker/Bent but again not really.
    Norwich – see Southampton.
    West Ham – have but only just.
    Swansea – bought quality and cheaply. Great window.
    West Brom – barely strengthened.
    Liverpool – will push for 5th.
    Everton – bigger squad but will struggle to make top 6.

  • 122 archaeomag // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    @Toon-Prodigy
    Yes – it is all horribly familiar – Sky TV outside SJP – lights off & nobody is there, we’ve been here before.

  • 123 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    You do realise that we have been left behind by just about every other club in the league during this window?

    We scraped our way to survival last season and while every other club in the league has become stronger we have simply remained the same.

    As for your obsession with the clubs account’s what happened in January? We amazingly found the money then when we were on the brink of relegation.

    Simply put – Under Ashley we spend to survive not to succeed.

  • 124 pawl250 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    TADS,

    I am not particularly happy in regards to lack of ambition, perhaps a couple of new faces would have been nice.

    I mean even the Remy situation, will he be staying next season or not? Who knows?!

    I hope he does.

    I think the squad is good enough for top 10, perhaps with that finish we could attract players. I think if we are somewhat lucky with injuries, we could even push top 8. I think we are due some good luck given last season in terms of injuries.

    I admit our initial start is not particularly amazing, but 4 points in 3 games given those are West Ham, Man City and Fulham I would have taken it.

    I think we will have a strong season, I personally feel 2 players could make the whole difference in terms of depth/quality. I would also say we have a shout to win a cup, we certainly are no worse off than Swansea last season who won a cup.

    This is just me, and I am thinking more positive towards this season than previous 2 or 3. Even when we finished 5th I felt we over achieved.

    This season I think we have the strongest team since Bobby/Keegan days. I just feel perhaps not the same passion in the manager.

  • 125 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    @Ibiza
    Sounds like we’re on the same wavelength then. I was hoping for a new striker alongside Remy too. Not sure about the need for a winger but hey. But if they haven’t managed to get someone off Carr’s list for the money/wages we can afford then the lack of a striker isn’t enough to make me go crazy and throw abuse at the Ashley and the club. I honestly can’t see anyone outside the top 6 who we are not better than, I expect us to continue to strengthen little by little and push to get back in that top 6 ourselves over time.

  • 126 noir9 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    What on earth would SSN have without the Bale deal to talk about?

  • 127 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    If we want MA out we are going to have to do it Monkey style,poo in your hand and throw it at him.I’m pretty certain he won’t like that.

  • 128 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    No one ever sings “stand up, if you love the toon having a yearly profit of 2% of the national average” or “theres only one cheif accountant, one cheif acouuuuntant”

  • 129 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    It actually looks a decent squad on paper, but a few injuries and it’s fairly poor. Lets not forget that all the other teams around us are stronger this season.

    At the moment if Ben Arfa gets injured we’re in trouble.

  • 130 terencelim // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    It’s funny that fans who constantly defend Ashley often call themselves optimist or positive. For me they’re probably the most negative fan I’ve ever seen in all my life supporting the toon.

    They’re the one who accept fools and lies from Ashley; belittle and degrade the club status.

    Let’s have a reality check, if Ashley is a Thai / Chinese / American / Arab owner and did all the similar damages and fools to the club, I bet half of you Ashley lovers would wake up and be smarter (I hope).

    You’re defending the fat businessman because you don’t want to admit mistakes (7 years is good enough to prove your stupidity); or simply because you’re a loser in real world and you’re trying to gain some attention over the internet.

  • 131 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    @JB120
    As far as I’m aware the league table is still based on points attained during the season and not pounds spent during the summer transfer window.

  • 132 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    F’n sick of these clowns. What a joke!!!

  • 133 Beattie25 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    terencelim

    hear hear

  • 134 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Felipe

    It’s easier to attain those points if the pounds have been spent

  • 135 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    JackButler

    You do realise that you’re talking out of your backside when you state that we’ve been “left behind by just about every other club in the league”???

    It doesn’t matter that Sunderland have signed an entire squad or that Swansea, Norwich and Southampton have spent big money on strikers, we still have better squads than all of those clubs and we should be finishing above them.

    Honestly, compare our squads with all of the other teams in the PL. Forget the top 6 and there’s no way you could deny that we have a better squad than at least 12 of the teams. The closest one to us would be Everton.

    I don’t have an obsession with the accounts, I just want people to realise the FACTS.

  • 136 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    terencelim

    one day ashley won’t be here. that’s good enough for me. we have literally no say in what goes on, you can riot all you want, shout chants at him – it won’t make a difference and will make him more likely to try and pi** us off.
    you can go as far as death threats if you like but i’d hope nobody would stoop to that level.
    just support the team in the meanwhile.

  • 137 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Who is supporting MA?,even Bills-Son is turning to the dark side if he doesn’t sign anyone.

  • 138 Blackley and Brownlie // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    If we got 10M for cabaye, I wouldn’t be fussed. If we sold Benny for 25M, I’d be gutted.

  • 139 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Tell me ma, me ma, i wont be home for tea, im going to fill in my tax return and take it to hmc, que sera sera.

  • 140 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Are people forgetting he put the club up for sale before because he was getting abuse?,what we need is more of the same x10.

  • 141 archaeomag // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    As nothing is happening – if you are bored – this is an infamous article about our leader;

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/is-newcastle-united-owner-mike-ashley-the-best-boss-in-the-world-8721153.html

  • 142 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Prodigy…£15-20m? :) I never even expected that tbh. I actually couldn’t care less about money spent (like many on here, probably inc. you). If you want to do it on a budget, then great, but be creative…like they’ve shown they can in the past…Cabaye, Santon, Ba & Marv for under £10m wasn’t it???

    On the extra TV money, it’s a bit of a grey area for me…I have read it doesn’t become available until the end of the season. I see the argument of fans wanting him to front a bit of it now. My point would be do we really not have the capacity of making some funds available now regardless of that? Not talking loads, but some. They lead us to believe they do, as they’re apparently actively looking, but then nothing. Once again, mixed signals.

    TDSarf…Do you not think we’ll make the top 4 then? :)

    It does all tie in to the theory that money is or can be made available for players…but only to keep us in the league. That’s really deflating at the end of the day and I can understand why people have had enough.

    You know I am all for the “plan” and being self sufficient, but it is seemingly just an idea used to beat us into submission.

    I’ve had enough. It doesn’t need to be this hard.

  • 143 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Cardiff have tried – decentish team but will struggle.
    Based on what? Strengthened well and are playing good football

    Hull have tried – same as above.
    Once again are playing good football and have a tough fixture list for the opening games, all of which they look a good team but lack a CF but if they play like they are they will pick a fair few teams of at home

    Palace – pretty much dead on for the drop.
    Same as hull

    Sunderland haven’t.
    So what

    We haven’t.
    No sh1t

    Villa have considerably but all young’uns.
    Does the squad age matter? Lambert has turned them into a well drilled looking team, they look in great shape

    Southampton splashed cash but still fragile in defence.
    Fair comment
    Stoke haven’t really – relegation candidates.
    WHAT?!?! They have made some great signings and are actually playing well and have added a good CF to there squad this morning

    Fulham – Parker/Bent but again not really.

    Norwich – see Southampton.
    Disagree

    West Ham – have but only just.

    Swansea – bought quality and cheaply. Great window.

    West Brom – barely strengthened.
    Once again how? Anelka, proven CF, Amalfitano Sinclair
    They look a good team

    Liverpool – will push for 5th.
    Yeah and the rest

    Everton – bigger squad but will struggle to make top 6.

    Not sure what the point of that little exercise was its simply compounding the fact we’ve been left in the dust………again

  • 144 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    Take a look at last season results and then tell me that we have a far better squad than at least 12 of those club’s. The like’s of Swansea, Norwich and Southampton all finished above us and have all strengthened their squad this time around so not talking out of my back side mate.

    With you everything looks great on paper, the squad the accounts…………but the reality is we do not gain our league position from how we look on papaer

  • 145 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    I actually had a dream last night that, after an uneventful transfer window, Alan Pardew openly criticised the clubs ownership and got sacked. Gus Poyet came in and, for whatever reason, I was having a chat with him over a cuppa about his plans to oust Mike Ashley.

    That’s all it was. A dream.

  • 146 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    terencelim

    What the hell is the relevance of his nationality???

    I don’t think Ashley is a good owner, I’ve made that clear, but there’s no way he’s as bad as some people make out:

    GOOD
    Consolidating debts in an interest free loan
    Back the club to get us promoted at the first attempt
    Making the club more efficient
    Developing the youth team

    BAD
    Buying the club without doing due diligence
    Hiring KK without doing due diligence!
    Hiring DW to help KK without doing due diligence!
    Hiring Shearer to sort out the mess then ditching him
    No engagement with the fans since the above

    I’m not the sad case who comes on this blog to call our club a disgrace, our owner a greedy git, our manager a clueless moron only good enough for league two, JFK an alcoholic waste of space and our players only good enough too scrape staying up.

    When we have people who think that way about our club, who needs mackems?!

  • 147 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    If we suffer any sort of the amount of injuries last yr we will be back to square one again.

    I’d be seriously p1ssed off if we don’t replace Ba today. We didn’t replace him in January and were almost relegated. To go another window without bringing in a quality striker is very poor.

    Remy is not an out and out striker and neither is Gouffran.

    We are missing pace and power upfront.

  • 148 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    @JackButer: It’s like I said earlier: we’ve stood still while the rest of the league has moved forwards. Does it count as “moving backwards” if you let other people overtake?

  • 149 Puppet Pardew // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Markaccus@128

    “There’s only supremely talented, indescribably wonderful, silver haired but still drop-dead gorgeous manager…. There’s only supremely talented, indescribably wonderful, silver haired but still drop-dead gorgeous manager…. etc.”

  • 150 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    the fence is well and truly smashed

  • 151 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    @JB
    It’s a bit of a leap but if we had added Remy, Sissoko, Debuchy, Mbiwa, Gouffran and Haidara at the end of the season when we finished 5th, do you think we would have flirted with relegation last season?
    I don’t and that’s why I’m not so concerned with our finish in the table last season or lack of incomings this August. As I’ve said, another striker would have been nice but even without we are already miles ahead of anyone outside the top 6.

  • 152 Toon1978 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    At least we have our health lads haha.

  • 153 Puppet Pardew // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    …one, that is.

  • 154 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Felipe

    We didn’t add those players and we did flirt with relegation which was Ashley’s failing

  • 155 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Ibizatoon

    I don’t think we’re just trying to stay in the league, but with Ashley it’s all a case of return on investment. There’s really no point in spending an extra £10M a season to finish 8th rather than 12th because the revenue just isn’t worth it for the club. It’s definitely worth the likes of Southampton and Norwich spending £20 to finish 15th rather than 18th though….

    We have to face it that we’re going to have years of only gradual improvement unless we have a season of over-achievement again and Ashley decides we’re going to give the CL a proper go or we get another owner. But it’s not easy for clubs like Villa, Everton and Newcastle to decide what to do. They are the 3 biggest clubs outside the top 6 but they’re all miles away from breaking into it.

  • 156 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    @Toon1978: Speak for yourself, haha

  • 157 Jamiemac // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Steve Wyss @meatmansoccer

    I’ve heard from a Caen contact that Ngolo Kante might have pulled out of tonights squad against Metz due to #Newcastle bidding for him #NUFC

  • 158 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Felipe…What are your thoughts on why we struggled last season?

    This is the issue for me.

    Are we saying that as we have no EL, the January signings have had time to settle and now have Remy all will be back to normal (maybe normal isn’t the right word to use for Newcastle United :) )?

    I’m really not sure about that. In theory I agree, but the reality is we still have a team and manager that seem completely drained of any confidence they once had and that has still not been addressed imo.

    I can only guess why and how we got here, but surely Ashley knows. He doesn’t appear to care and that I struggle to deal with.

    Last summer I considered it a great success that we kept all of our players and didn’t mind we only added one player. I was oh so wrong. I can’t shake the feeling we’re doing the same now. I could be proved wrong, but why take the risk? Once again, it doesn’t need to be this hard.

  • 159 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    TDS@135
    That’s not a fact though that’s an opinion

    You talk about the other clubs and the quality of there squads, they are playing well as a team and have a good vibe around the club

    Our team is in shambles, the players are even calling for signings the morale is rock bottom
    If you can’t see the difference strengthening those teams had made to the belief or morale of those teams there is no point discussing it
    It’s not all simply down to there ratings on football manager!!!

  • 160 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Ibiza,

    It dosn’t bother me when this money becomes available mate, Now or next year. The important thing is to build like everyone else is.

    It’s obvious clubs have been given these funds or they are at least lending on the basis of it. We can’t afford to stand still in this league.

    Standing still and not building the sauad even further is a recipe for disaster through my eyes.

    We are screwed as soon as 2-3 injuries occur to our better players. I can’t see anything changing if we don’t build and take our chances every window.

  • 161 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Thump

    When people on here right off what other clubs are doing in this window simply because they don’t rate the players that they are signing you know that they are clutching at straws.

    We have been left behind or gone backwards, either way you put it we will struggle as a result, but as long as the accounts look good then the “Happy Clapping Brigade” will be happy

  • 162 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    JackButler

    And we finished above Liverpool and Chelsea the season before but I wouldn’t say we had a better squad than them!

    Plus, you’re forgetting that we signed 5 players in January and another this Summer. All 6 of those players have had half a season in the PL and 5 of them have had a proper pre-season with our club.

    Sometimes clubs overachieve (when we finished 5th) and sometimes they underachieve (like last season).

    If you know anything about football, you should know that a team that finishes in 16th isn’t necessarily going to be in trouble the following year.

  • 163 lochinvar // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Toon-prodigy @ 74
    “David Craig is apparantly heading over to NUFC this afternoon”.

    Is that for a medical ?

  • 164 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Puppet p

    If you say so, mate ;)

    Seriously though it all gets a bit much when you read “our football is rubbish” and someone comes back with “financialy stable blah” and “fiscal security” and “how much for unprotectd anal”…… ok maybe not that last one…..

  • 165 geordielad880 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    BREAKING NEWS____newcastle make move for sochaux defender Cedric Kante

  • 166 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    I’ll pop back in soon, back to the TV for me.

    Fingers crossed.

  • 167 Ben3arfa // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    who the heck in ngolo kante?

  • 168 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    but on the other hand they could be in deep do-do

  • 169 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Lochinvar,

    Hahaha, class. Catch yas in a bit

  • 170 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    The ONLY positive today is the demolition of Ibiza’s fence panel :)

    TDS
    How has he developed the youth team??
    What coaches have been added?
    What players have been bought into it? Kemen?

  • 171 yorkshire_magpie // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    F*$k Ashley and his F%#king regime. He seriously needs to sort this club out. No transfers after all the promises. Looks like another transfer window without buying anyone and then looking for bargains in January when we’re near the bottom of the table.

  • 172 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    We have to face it that we’re going to have years of only gradual improvement

    That “gradual improvement” will see us lose our key players. Cabaye will be off in January – if not today – and Ben Arfa won’t be too far behind him (not as a direct result, of course, but those two are easily the most tempting for other clubs). Ashley wants the transfers to be self financing, so we sell to bring in and that’s how we end up with transfer windows like this. We have the money but it’ll unbalance the books and Ashley won’t be having any of that.

  • 173 geordielad880 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    sorry wrong player lol, ngolo kante, he plays for cannes http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/transfer-deadline-day-live-2nd-september-2013/

  • 174 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    lochinvar // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Toon-prodigy @ 74
    “David Craig is apparantly heading over to NUFC this afternoon”.

    Is that for a medical ?

    Ahahahahahah. Cheers mate, I needed that :D

  • 175 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    TADS

    “moral is rock bottom” – OPINION
    “good vibe at other clubs” – OPINION
    “the accounts” – FACTS

    I don’t give a stuff about the details of the accounts and it’s never ever me who brings them up. But when someone states something about the finances and it’s just not true, then I tell them to read the accounts.

    It’s all there in black and white regarding the debt, the wages, the transfers and whatever MA has taken out of the club.

  • 176 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Jamiemac
    Great another league 2 midfielder
    Just as thought we would show no ambition
    Phew

  • 177 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Yorkshire mag

    But the finances are ok…… :D

  • 178 theartfuldodger // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Europa League highlights what Ashley doesent want. Its a footballing spectacle. It increses wage bill giving little cash.

    Last time we qualified we dint hav a big enough squad.
    What makes Felipe and others think that the next time we qualify Ashley will buy.

    Perhaps hes not investing cause he wants top 10 JUST .. not top 6 and europa. He wants 8 9 10.

  • 179 geordielad880 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    makes no sense to me, he only signed for cannes in july this year, and he plays in french league 2, and has very little experience, and he is a CM

  • 180 A monkey is better then Pardew // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Accept on the condition that we get Chicharito.

  • 181 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    TDS
    I meant your opinion that we had a better squad in every which way than every team outside the top 6
    I don’t give a flying f uk about the p1ssing accounts ffs it’s a fcuking football club not Wall Street

  • 182 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    TADS

    Before Ashley, how many youth players broke into the team in the preceding 10 years? Shola? Saylor? Any others?

    We’ve now got Dummett and Sammy in the first team squad plus good prospects with Campbell, Fergie, Street, Alnwick, Vuckic and others.

    It’s not just about who he has brought in this summer. I mean that side of things is looking much better.

    He’s bound to focus on it because he doesn’t want to spend on transfer fees…

  • 183 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Tudor…I still have a post up my backside, but it is a little shaky.

    Prodigy…I would say Remy is the perfect replacement for Ba, in his LW role, which worked great for the team and can again. Shola is no competition for Cisse though and that Ba (ST) replacement is still missing. Agreed.

    TDS… Sorry mate, I find a lot of that last post a bit off the mark and contradictory. I get what you’re saying about it being difficult to break in to that top bracket of teams, but we were there, ready to pounce and Ashley bottled it…for whatever reason.

    As we said, the margin between say 10th and relegation is almost nothing, so by targeting mid-table, in essence all your doing is trying to stay in the league.

    Where is the youth setup progression? Where are the key 2 players a year to push us on?

    It’s all so reactionary rather than being proactive. I can take mistakes, we all make them, but this seems to be by design. I could see the sense in the plan, but as I said earlier, due to the clubs recent actions, I have no reason not to believe that is just something they use to control us.

    I’ve been saying all will become clear for years now…when does it end?

  • 184 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Flying the flag for a man and regime that doesn’t give a shyte about us…………………………

    Carling doesn’t do stupidity but if it did it would be found on this blog

  • 185 Jack Attack Attack Attack // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Having maggots injected into his japs eye is too good for ashley

  • 186 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    certainly beats a camera in my honest opion

  • 187 Carr Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    this has been a hugely successful window for NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB after landing a mega signing with the name of Joe Kinnear. lol

  • 188 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    TADS

    Sure, that’s my opinion, what else could it be?

    Try comparing them and see which you’d prefer. I’ll be amazed if you can say you’d prefer any squad other than the top 6 and maybe Everton.

    If you don’t want the squad mentioned, then people need to stop talking cr*p about money! Such as:
    – MA is tight (it’s NUFC’s money – not MA’s!)
    – MA is taking millions out of the club each year
    – MA is running the club on a shoestring (wages were 67% of turnover – actually too high)
    – MA has “pocketed the Carroll money”

    All complete crap. It’s other people who keep mentioning damn money, not me. I couldn’t give a monkeys whether we sign a proper striker who costs £15M or 15p as long as he does his damn job.

  • 189 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    @Ibiza 158
    We clearly struggled with Europa League schedule of Thurs/Sunday. Yes, we should have seen that coming and hopefully will be better prepared next (season) time.
    We had the worst injury record in the league by far.
    Our captain and best player Colocini was distracted by personal issues. Our most skilful player was injured most of the season.
    I’m not happy we rely on so many French players and don’t think introducing 5 new non English speaking players to the dressing room in January can have helped.
    I think all of the above (plus the fact the previous season went to their heads a bit) unsettled Tiote & Cabaye two of our best players from the previous season.

  • 190 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    damned nose wikk nott hit the coiiect button5

  • 191 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Tads…How is that a good thing? I miss the view, the light breeze, the sound of birds singing…now they just cr*p on me :)

    Prodigy….I agree on the not standing still issue. It’s been shown not to work. Can’t remember by which team or when, but I’m sure it has…..

  • 192 Wiz // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    109 and 135 Toon Darn Sarf … how can you tell if others are talking out of their backside when it is your own fundament that is pointing directly at the rest of us? What utter effluvium you spout, day in, day out. There is a danger that you will sideline yourself through the ordure you are piling up around your own ankles. As regards the lies, these have been fairly constant, and have been inspired by the great man. He is the sewage, if not always the sewer. Sometimes, as today, he uses others to disseminate his cynical rubbish. At others he tells lies direct (a less euphemistic name for his main business interest) as with the Keegan dismissal, which cost him millions. You will notice he has never sued anyone in defamation for calling him a liar. As regards all this money he spends, and we are seventh in terms of wages, we should be a lot higher. And the crucial point here is that once you get to the top four or five you get a massive gap. Take a look at the Man City wage bill. Incidentally, take a look at the Man City version of the beautiful game. It’s a lot more powerful and beautiful than Newcastle’s. We should have a very high wage bill indeed – we should be competing with the top clubs after finishing fifth a couple of years ago. Instead our glorious owner declares that his ambition for our club is to provide ‘affordable football’. That is code for desperation survival football, football that is not worth watching, football that fans feel embarrassed to watch at Morecambe, for example. And don’t get me started on transfer fees being used to pay the bills. That is not good business practice. It is stupid and mendacious. It is like selling your house to pay off the credit card, and selling the car to buy the groceries. Please don’t write such obviously inflammatory drivel again, Toon Darn Sarf, as it is bad enough feeling exploited and abused on deadline day, and going through all the lies in the local papers that the big man inspires through his little helpers, without also being force-fed bilge by a nincompoop.

  • 193 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    it will not bother me the squad is fine its the leaders that are sh1te

  • 194 ochytoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    TDS
    I have no idea why you are content with the way this summer’s gone. It’s not like many of us expected many signings but I’m surprised it hasn’t pissed you off.

    I swear some fans are so focused on how good our financials are they’d prefer us to be a bloody accounting firm.

  • 195 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Wiz

    People are talking out of their backside when their view/opinion differs to his.

  • 196 Carr Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    I have never seen and i am 200% sure i will never see a person as greedy and miser as MIKE FAT ASHLEY.
    such a shame for great NUFC

  • 197 LooneyToon41 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Blimey, there’s a lot of crap being posted today.
    Is is that time of the month?
    Ah well, frustration is understandable i guess.

  • 198 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Ibizatoon

    There’s no denying that we should have tried to push on when we finished in 5th place. We would surely have been able to attract some top players to the club with European football and having only missed out on the CL on the final day. But we didn’t…and that was stupid.

    Even so, that didn’t mean that we were truly on the verge of the CL places. Liverpool and Chelsea had far more money than us to invest in the squad and would still have had better odds of qualifying for the CL than us the following season.

    This year we have Sammy and Dummett looking likely to play a few games from the youth set-up. As for the 2 signings, we made 5 in January and 1 this summer. I still think we need that striker though.

    We need consecutive top 10 finishes to really push on.

  • 199 pawl250 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Personally think outside M/City, M/Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool Spurs, Arsenal. which is 1 to 6.

    West Ham – Have NOT strengthened, they play the same team. Anyone saying Carroll, they had him last year. Downing is past it. Well drilled outfit under Sam will arguably be top 10 or not far off.

    Cardiff – All high an mighty after City win, will struggle this year. Will lose steam as time goes on.

    Hull – Think they will stay up, but again high and mighty after promotion, and they will do well to stay up. Certainly not far off if they do.

    Stoke – Who thinks they have improved? They will struggle this year. I feel it in my bones they are candidates, without Pulis and his bully tactics I feel the change of attempting to play football will diminish their standing in the PL.

    Norwich – They have strengthened, probably enough to stay up, but not enough to be confident of top 10. Not far off.

    C/Palace – Nailed on for relegation in my eyes. Bendtner, Chamakh? You could give them Rooney they would still fall into the drop zone.

    Sunderland – Disaster start, will struggle first half the season give the run of fixtures. Have a look! Home games are nothing short of a consecutive nightmare and will do well to pick up any points until mid Nov. possibly maybe against West Brom in a few weeks only. PDC is awful manager, and personally in trouble if you ask me. Probably have enough to miss drop though.

    Fulham – I feel will struggle this season. They have had Bent and Parker but if they lose any home form they will be candidates for the drop.

    Everton – Do not think they have strengthened at all. Moyes gone it looks like they are struggling to adapt to Martinez. I feel losing Baines/Fellaini, even just one will be a massive loss. Moyes has done wonders, but feel this maybe the year Everton start to decline.

    Villa – Benteke, he is the sole reason that Villa will do well. He is a monster. Gabbi compliments him and Lambert has managed to steady a sinking ship. Feel he has bought well, perhaps not amazing, but enough to improve whilst removing the dead weight. Think they will be the Swansea of last year.

    Swansea – Improved yes. Good manager yes, but EL will be their downfall, much like it was ours. Their squad is not massive and they will struggle to keep the pace in later stages. Important for them to get points early on. They paid 12m for Bony, who has been absent so far. Infact I would go as far to say Laudrup prefers Michu upfront. Odd but so far he maybe the flop of the season.

    Southampton – Improved yes, but not enough to be top 10. Poor defense in my opinion, feel they will do ok and enough to avoid drop but nothing special.

    West Brom – Gone for me, I think Anelka is passed it. Sinclair looks unfit. They were in freefall after Jan last year, and now without Lukaku could struggle to stay in the league. Think they will be in relegation. If not, they will be close.

    My prediction below.

    Top 6
    7. Villa
    8. Newcastle
    9. Everton
    10. West Ham
    11. Swansea
    12. Norwich
    13. Southampton
    14. Stoke
    15. Fulham
    16. Hull TIGERS (lol)
    17. Sunderland
    18. West Brom
    19. Cardiff City
    20. Crystal Palace

    We have a great squad, average manager. We need to find the balance and get our better players out of form, in form. Think we will be fine this season. Certainly have one of the best squad on paper outside the top 6.

    My opinion of course

  • 200 hiab3 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    sorry but if Man U are daft enough to pay 25m for him on the only day he will be worth that money then let him go! no one player is bigger than the club ps even if its 20m take it!

  • 201 richyg01 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Jordan Rhodes to Wigan.

  • 202 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Mata to Liverpool???

  • 203 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    cabeye to hollywood

  • 204 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    who cares any more

  • 205 richyg01 // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    @202

    PSG have come in for him now though aint they!?

  • 206 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    SSN Breaking news for SJP

    Cabaye is staying………………….thats all folks

  • 207 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    TDS
    Out of all those only Dummett looks a PL player
    Vuckic and streete? How would anyone know there permanently holed up in the sick bay
    Fergie is 22 he’s hardly a prospect ffs

    Like or not Taylor and Shola are established league players, so until one of the youth make it he hasn’t improved jack at the academy

  • 208 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Wiz

    So you’re yet another person who doesn’t understand facts…let me line two out for you.

    In season 2011/12
    – Spurs’ wage bill was 6th highest @ £90M
    – NUFC’s revenue was 7th highest @ £93M

    So don’t spout such complete financial garbage about how we should be spending more on wages. The next highest wage bill (Liverpool’s @ £119M) would mean us spending £26M more on wages alone than we got in revenue??

    I don’t want to keep talking about the accounts, but how the hell do you work that out as a sensible policy?!

  • 209 jokinoot // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Yeah yohan Cabaye staying that’s it thanks david craig

  • 210 Slank // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Carr Toon @ 196

    ‘I have never seen and i am 200% sure i will never see a person as greedy and miser as MIKE FAT ASHLEY.’

    Freddy Shepherd ?

  • 211 FatmanJoe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    What went wrong last season? Injuries. Simple.

    It’s a world cup year and I predict many of our niggling injuries will suddenly stop as players are going to want to play consistently and play well to stand any chance of being picked.

    We might have to all buy Deschamps a pint as he may have given our stars a reminder that their club football is important too.

  • 212 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Tudor..For the reason of having a camera up there, then yes. But having something the size of a speeding camera up there? Not so much ;)

    Can I just throw out there that I don’t believe TDS is championing Ashley. At the end of the day, a fair bit of what Ashley does is or can be a good thing for the club. Problem is he undoes any good by not following it through.

    Felipe…Did you cut and paste that from one of my posts from last season? :) We’re really not far off from being on the same wavelength at all. What is different now though?

    Tiote and Cabaye are still far from their best.

    Yanga and Debuchy still don’t seem comfortable. Whether that is down to language or lack of experience in the league I don’t know yet (I do think both will come good incidentally).

    We’ve already been joint top of the injury league this season. Although I accept this could change, it is a gamble.

    The only changes I can see are that Colo seems to be committed again and that we have no EL…although I’d like to think we could give the domestic cups a go this season, should we be worried that we can’t compete in anything other than the PL without crisis unfolding?

    I know I am coming across as a whinger here, but I really cannot see what changes have been made to rectify the mistakes of last year. I blindly accepted things last summer and was proved a fool. I struggle to maintain any belief and that is down to the clubs decision making.

    Even if I get my head around all of that, what do we have to look forward to? We do well and then what? Roll the die and hope for the best?

    On the plus side, I did enjoy the second half of the Fulham game a lot and it showed some promise that maybe this season wont be a complete disaster, injuries permitting.

    I’d love nothing more than to be called a bandwagon jumping neggar in the near future, when Newcastle are back doing well, but don’t see it happening.

  • 213 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    ochytoon

    Please don’t assume I’m content just because I contradict some of the garbage posted on here. I’m not at all impressed that we haven’t signed a big strong striker yet and I stated at the beginning of summer that a striker and a winger/AM/striker were the minimum this summer assuming no outgoings.

    With nobody leaving and just Remy coming in, I’d give the window 4 out of 10 at the moment, so I’m not happy. But neither am I as aggressively angry as some people

  • 214 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    TADS

    It takes time though! He’s been at the club for what, 6 years? So even if he brought players in the summer he bought the club, they would have to be 15 or 16 to be realistically breaking into the first team now. Be fair.

  • 215 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    the mistakes are not rectified coz he is as thick as kinnear he has no interest just in monetary terms he gives no hoots

  • 216 JackButler // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    When “Fans” talk more passionately about the accounts and wage percentages than the football something is very, very wrong imo

  • 217 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    @Ibiza 212
    So where do you think we’ll finish this season and how many points? I reckon 7th and 58.

  • 218 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    damn me a bbc grandstand camera 3 lens jobby

  • 219 sweendog // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Ngolo kante is now being tauted to be coming here from Caen .. Cm player .. Don’t know much about him

  • 220 Slank // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    FatmanJoe @ 211

    Very perceptive and I think you are probably right.

    Playing in the reserves or sitting on the bench isn’t going to catch the eye of any national team manager.

  • 221 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    @TDS: Ah, see, here’s what bothers me. Ashley’s 5 year plan started on promotion (this will be the 4th season). It’s safe to say that we are not on track… so how much time does he want? Has the situation changed?

  • 222 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    JB…Having been on the other side of this type of discussion, it’s not a question of always being more passionate about accounts, just trying to give a better platform for reasoned discussions. Some of what is said is well over the top and simply not accurate.

    Anyway, as you were :)

    Bit odd there’s been no mention of pitchforks yet…

  • 223 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    JackButler

    I talk passionately against any bullsh*t that’s being talked about the club that I support. I want players to get behind the team that we have not constantly whinging about where we should be or who we should sign.

    We all know that we need a big strong striker to give us a more rounded squad. Hopefully we get him but if we don’t then at 11pm tonight we all just have to move on.

  • 224 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    TDS
    LOOOOL
    You bring up the accounts at any available opportunity!!

    To say you don’t care about how much a player costs is a bare faced lie
    Remember our little discussion about Eriksen? “If he’s going for that and no big club had cone in for him he’s clearly not worth it”
    And what about near in every player that’s been suggested you’ve dismissed as either A) unrealistic ( due to wages/bigger clubs blah blah) or B) not worth the asking price

    I’m sorry but the constant support of the odious tosser who runs this club has become cringe worthy and way beyond the borders of merely being a level headed approach
    But hey to quote you what do us “sad cases” (new term for people who want to see some ambition?) know

  • 225 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    chuck another kinnear on the barby

  • 226 AaranD // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    So again our summer revolves around keeping our players, which is fair enough but we aren’t really going to make many step forwards.

    Though I don’t think we need a lot players but we need more options from the bench. Upgrades on both Marv and Jonas are what I think.
    Guidetti would be great for us as well.

  • 227 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    @Thump 221
    As a famous german general once said ‘No plan survives contact with the enemy’ :-)

  • 228 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Be fair???
    6 fcuking years and one decent player from the academy
    Yop your right being harsh there ffs

  • 229 Sheepman // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Our team is very good. We don’t need any new players. It would be a great loss to see Cabeye go but he wont be going unless we get this young lad in. I’m not a pensioner but I’ve been around the block a few times and all I can say is this. Teams don’t get a chance these days and neither do managers. Team spirit is what gets results not frequent new introductions. I’m afraid that may mean loosing a few games and drawing a few too. But we have a good bunch of lads in at the moment and they will play better together after time and that’s the only way to build a team. Forget the money, all that’s changed now and there is a lot of it being wasted. I’m sure many of you readers have been in teams and played with your team mates through thick and thin, you build an understanding over time. Our team this season has not even been given a chance yet. We are a top six team if we stick together, stuff new signings.

  • 230 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    TDS

    Greed is Good, Lunch is for Wimps and There Is No Alternative.
    OKAY…we GET it!!!!!
    You’re not addressing the Adam Smith Institute, man.
    You said earlier you’d rate the window four out of ten, which you said was not bad.
    In most walks of life, that would rate as “poor”, surely?

  • 231 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Thump

    Actually I thought Ashley’s 5 year plan started when he bought the club…so it’s been 6 years already.

    No question that the plan has not worked.

    But I keep banging my head against a brick wall with some people on here. What do people really expect. It seems to be one of the following regarding Ashley:
    1. he sells up – well he can’t without a buyer and why should he sell unless he gets the right bid?
    2. he invests heavily to target the CL – with what money? Sure we could throw the club into more debt to try and do this but if it backfires and he doesn’t want to back us then that’s when we truly would “do a Leeds”
    3. sack Pardew and bring in an ambitious manager – the only managers we could attract would be either unproven in the PL or journeymen, it would be a risk. We could get a better manager but would have to do (2) as well.
    4. Sensible investment – isn’t this what he’s trying to do? Only spending the money that the club is capable of spending?

    The connection between the fans was broken when he messed around KK and many of the fans have been vocal in their hatred ever since.

  • 232 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    So the window will slam shut but thankfully we have a financially sound platform to build on
    The problem being we don’t seem to want to build

  • 233 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    @Felipe: But… if Ashley is the enemy… and he came up with the plan… oh christ we’re being sabotaged

  • 234 Quasimodo's tailor // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Looking back through the posts, TDS only quoted the accounts ‘cis some poster asked about them. Only saying like.

  • 235 Wiz // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Toon Darn Sarf at 208 … I am very familiar with the accounts, thank you, and you yourself have already said that he uses some of the profits on player sales for expenditure that more conventional, shall we say, business folk meet out of revenue rather than profits on gains. The revenue you are quoting does not include profits on player sales, which Ashley’s accountants put in the Profit and Loss account as capital gains, and separate from gate receipts and television income and burger sales and all the rest of it. We might have spent sixty million quid in five years on players, but we have received sixty two million in sales on a conservative estimate. Ashley is not investing in the team. The accounts make this perfectly clear. Why are you doing Ashley’s lying propaganda job and disseminating claptrap and winding up peaceable folk like me who are enduring a disgrace of a deadline day?

  • 236 Toonacious T // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    TDS- how do you defend Ashley’s bewildering decision to appoint JFK as DOF?

  • 237 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    @tads 231
    So adding 5 in January plus Remy in August is not building. Maybe not the pace you want but building we are.

  • 238 Mark // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Protest

  • 239 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    4. Sensible investment – isn’t this what he’s trying to do? Only spending the money that the club is capable of spending?

    So apparently despite massive gate receipts, the most successful kit launch in 3 years and a huge TV deal in place , plus the money from the wonga sponsorship we have a grand total of zero to spend
    Sounds reasonable

  • 240 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    @TDS: When he came in he just wanted to play with something, it was only on relegation that the 5 year plan came to light. Del Boy kept going on about it too, so when it actually started (or restarted, or re-restarted) is anybodies guess.

    Regarding point 2 – he doesn’t have to invest heavily. That’s the kicker. We owe him money… so as far as the accounts go we’re practically free of debt. All the loans he’s given us go onto the price he expects when he sells up. So the chance of us “doing a Leeds” is highly negligible. They were in huge amounts of debt long before they were spending shedloads.

  • 241 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    TADS

    I mention the accounts only to contradict people who spout off complete rubbish about our finances!

    I don’t recall a conversation about Eriksen at all to be honest but didn’t Spurs sign him for about £11M? I’d have been delighted with that, but not at the expense of signing a striker!

    I don’t care about how much a players costs at all, why should I? We’ve waste money on the likes of Owen and signed bargains with the likes of Ba, Cabaye and the rest.

  • 242 Slank // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    I saw a pundit saying that all the players coming into Spurs may not compensate for the loss of Bale.

    Whilst they may have increased the number of players not one of them is as good as Bale and will not have the same impact on the field as Bale. Also, the pundit pointed out that not all of them can play every game and because of that lack of matches it will take each one almost a whole season to get used to the Premiership.

    The pundit was also saying that there is almost a law of diminishing returns based on the more players bought in a single transfer window the less effective they become.

    As an example, Man Utd rarely, if ever, brought in a busload of players. If they did, they went into the reserves. They tended to go for a very low number of new players destined for the first team.

    It will be interesting to see how well (or not) the teams who have brought in a bus load do.

  • 243 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Feliepe
    No
    The 5 in jan should of been the 3 the previous summer but he gambled and damaged the league position and reputation of the club

    Remy should of been Jan but he couldn’t be arsed to send down a party to meet him
    So no it’s not building it’s desperately trying to patch up his fcuk up

  • 244 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    BandB

    Yep. Fairly poor transfer window so far. I’ve never said anything different.

  • 245 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    @Quasimodo: Some people on here suffer from selective memory when it might just knock their rhetoric. TDS knows it, you know it, I know it… just let them get on with it.

  • 246 shamsoftabriz // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Let’s face the truth here: Cabaye is an unprofessional ass-clown. If he doesn’t get his wish to move on he will sulk and pout like a baby and deliberately under-perform just to spite us and teach us a lesson. He is a petulant child with no sense of ethics or values. And he’s **28**. SELL HIM. Heck, even if it’s only 10M, sell this man NOW. Get Gomis and Florian Thauvin and we’ll be just fine. We can’t afford to keep players around like Cabaye who care about nothing but themselves. He will poison the well and he will sink our season–deliberately–if we keep him.

  • 247 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    @tads 242
    Sorry but if they’re brought in it doesn’t matter when it is still building. We now have better players (I assume you agree with that) that we had 18 months ago.

  • 248 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Wiz

    But in those 5 years what is our overall profit as a football club? If we’re making £30M profit a year then we could say it was fair if he spent £20M on players (including increased wages, agents’ fees etc.) and took £10M of it to pay off his loan. Sounds fair. But we’re not making £30M a year profit…

  • 249 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Felipe…I honestly don’t know. I tried to have a guess before the City game, but to show how much of a guess it was, I can’t even remember what I said.

    Truth is, we don’t know what the problems actually are, what is being done to solve them…basically we know nothing :) How can we possibly make an educated guess. It’s simply a question of having belief or not….mine is wavering and that is soul destroying for me…I’m a fairly optimistic guy (and that’s probably a bit of an understatement).

  • 250 dubzy // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Reports suggest that Newcastle have had a €2m offer for Kante

  • 251 Wiz // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Toon Darn Sarf at 230 … when you were posting your heroic ordure under the monicker of Noodlebug on the Chronicle website, which you seem to have stopped doing, you claimed that the five-year plan was a brilliant success. You also claimed two years ago that the squad was stronger even though it was numerically less strong. Now you seem to be saying that we need to make signings, but, with a Noodlebuggian twist, so reminiscent of the old days when you were predicting a top ten finish when it was obvious we were heading for relegation, you are now saying that if we don’t make any signings we should just shrug and move on. Some of us, Toon Darn Sarf, are fans, you see, and that is the kind of thing that sticks in our craw.

  • 252 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Toonacious T

    I don’t defend that at all. JFK was a crazy choice, just as KK and DW were before him.

    The only kind of positive thing I say about JFK is that he’s here now so I just want him to do his job well.

    But he hasn’t done that either yet…

  • 253 Edd Case // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    All,

    Don’t be too angry that we don’t sign anyone – there is a BIGGER picture here.

    Firstly, our current playing staff are better than the average lot for a Premier League outfit – we’re not great, but we’ll not go down (assuming we don’t get so many injuries this season).

    Watching the last 15 minutes against Fulham for me showed that when we have Remy, Cisse, HBA, Cabaye and Sissoko all playing and attacking, we look quality.
    In defence, Colo and Mapou are key without doubt.

    No doubt we’re thin though, and a few injuries/suspensions will cost us a lot of points.

    We could have bought players in this window and no doubt AP wanted that but MA is a gambler and he must believe the current squad will stay up – that’s his gamble.

    He’s employed a cheap DoF, a cheap manager and he’s trying to employ playing staff as cheaply as possible too.

    MA’s passion (if he ever really had any) for this club has gone.

    MA is clearly gearing the club to look PROFITABLE so he can sell – this is the good news.

    He’s wanted out for a long time now and the only way he can do this is by creating healthy accounts.

    We will NOT spend big £ on players again while he is there, unless of course, we have another AC situation – but for me, that was a one-off.

    Instead, we’ll no doubt move for players with less that 1 year left on their contracts in January again.

    I’m convinced now, that MA is 100% gearing the club for sale in 2014 / 2015.
    I’m sure MA will get his money back and he’s clearly working very hard to getting the clubs finances to the point where he can sell for either money back or profit.

    Such a shame the guy ever got involved because although he has the wealth, he clearly has 0 passion for us.

  • 254 Mark // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    @ Dubzy

    Who?!

  • 255 yo-yo // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    BandB

    Do you think Gordon Gecko would make a better owner than Ashley ?

    I think 4/10 is far too high. This is a 1/10 window for me as it has finally shatttered any illusion that even Bills-son might have that Mashley is taking this club anywhere remotely successful. Ambiton zilch. We can slag AP all we like but he has been dealt a terrible hand to play with this lot in charge and dumping on him

    If your fence burning Ibiza can we have a barbie in the ashes ?

  • 256 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Thump

    My Leeds comment is only if we spent a huge amount of money to go for the CL, I’m talking investment of £50M+ a year. If we tried that and didn’t make it within 3 years then we’d be in a mess.

    There’s no way it would happen as things stand.

  • 257 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Quasimodo

    Thanks. It’s funny how some people like to read the part of my posts that means I:
    – always mention the accounts
    – support Mike Ashley
    – support Alan Pardew
    – am happy with this transfer window

    None of which are actually true…

  • 258 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    ashley would sh1t himself if we got cl

  • 259 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    yo-yo…It would be a shame to see it go to waste.

    BBQ in?

  • 260 dubzy // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    @Mark

    Caen striker Ngolo Kante

  • 261 Pokat // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Edd Cases post belies his name. It is of course exactly how things are panning out, any last minute deals wll be as much a surprise to Mike as it will to us. Still think Cabaye will go though.

    We just have to sit it out for a season it looks like

  • 262 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Wiz

    Amazing! Now I’m being accused of being “Noodlebug”???

    Nope. Not me. Never even seen a post or an article from someone of that name. I don’t see the point of hiding from my views and I’ll happily tell you when I’ve been proven wrong.

  • 263 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    BandB- you weren’t around in 1776! It’s the wealth of Ashley
    who can afford to loosen the purse strings.

    Ibiza- I agree with much of what you have to say. Our best starting
    eleven is a match for anyone, except the top four. The depth of the
    squad is such that injuries to key players makes us vulnerable
    irrespective of less games this season. For £ 10 million spent we
    could have 2 quality offensive players to make us truly competitive.

    The part time accountants on here are far too clinical and lack
    the passion of those fans rocking at SJP when we upped the
    temperature in the last 20 minutes. Good to behold it had been
    a while.

  • 264 Mark // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    @ Edd Case

    Can I ask, what if Cisse is injured?
    What if that rape case puts Remy in prison?
    What if Cabaye decides he doesn’t want to try anymore?
    If Tiote gets a 3 match ban for a stupid challenge?

    We have no backup. I’m not willing to rely on Shola for goals when his goal ratio is awful.

    This transfer window has been the worst of Ashley’s ownership. He has shown no ambition and no sense.

  • 265 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    yo-yo

    You see…if this is a 1/10 transfer window, you’ve left yourself no room to move if Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Cisse had left and we’d just signed Carlton Cole! That’s why I say 4/10.

  • 266 Wiz // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Toon Darn Sarf at 247 – don’t you know what our profit was? Is it your view that we have spent two thirds of our profits on players? We have not spent two thirds of our profits on players. It is more like a sixth. What has happened to the Andy Carroll money? What has happened to the 60m from Sky (which we receive early in the new year)? What has happened to the small number of millions we have received or saved ourselves by the outgoing transactions this year? Why don’t you look at yourself and ask Noodlebug what he would have written? I imagine he will fix on a tiny irrelevant detail and think of something else that will annoy straightforward fans who don’t use aliases to post their attention-seeking claptrap.

  • 267 Mark // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    @ dubzy

    Any good?
    Got a link to source?

  • 268 Newcastle for alltid // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    I think the January window is the reason why we don`t spend bigger than we already have this summer. Some of the signings we made then were probably thought of as summer targets.
    Not being willing to pay the price for quality is our main problem this summer, as we have strict financial rules that will suffocate any deal that involves too much money. We`ve seen it time and time again that 8-9 million is the most we are willing to pay for anyone, as paying more would risk the sell-on profit. That`s just the way it is, I absolutely hate this policy from a fans point-of-view – and so does most of you as well. From a business point-of-view is makes a lot of sense, sadly.

    While I think our January signings + Remy can play well, as we saw in the last 20 minute against Fulham, more competition and strings to play would be good. Someone to compete with Cissè, or a provider out wide.
    So we aren`t too bad off, we are in reasonable control defensively against, I would say, half the Premier League. Offensively, we should be OK. Apparently the owner doesn`t want to see us successfull, staying in the league is the top priority.

    I just feel sorry for the players, watching the summer go by as teams like Swansea, Southampton and Norwich are building exciting sides while hardly any new blood is added here. It will only fortify our position as a stepping stone for players.

  • 269 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    im sparticus

  • 270 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    yo-yo,

    How about we places those ashes in a small and affordable urn and take them on an open top bus parade of the city. Then let no man say we have no trophies.

  • 271 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    @TDS: Oh, I know, I’m just saying that it wouldn’t be too much of a gamble. Pay for the club to become a consistent top table club and then attract a better manager. Just enough time for Pardew to see his contract out, too.

    Honestly, I just wish we’d bring in more coaches/scouts. As far as I’m aware we have 3 first team coaches (Pardew, Carver and Stone) and one Mr. Graham Carr on our scouting staff.

  • 272 Beattie25 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    I’m trying not to insinuate anything regarding nufc here but given that Middlesborough are supposedly attempting to sign one of our targets (Jelle Vossen) and that David Craig alluded to the fact he might be on his way to Newcastle airport, I must say I call bullshit on that.

    Why would a Belgian international striker join a mediocre championship club in a world cup year?

    He’s against Benteke, Lukaku, M’boyo and more for a place in the squad and moving to the Smoggies will not get him anywhere near the squad.

    He’d be better of staying at Genk and playing top flight football in his home country than joining the second division in England.

    If he is on a flight to the airport I highly doubt he will be going to Boro, unless he’s got terribly advisers.

  • 273 Ibizatoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Ian…With some belief, the starting 11 can even be a match for the top 4…occasionally anyway.

    I just want to see some passion and belief. It was great to see it on Saturday for a bit and it has given me some hope for now.

  • 274 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Felipe
    Of course it matters!
    If your building something you do it properly, you don’t cut corners and do it on the cheap because when it all starts falling apart it will cost you more to put right
    How much do you think Ashley’s master stroke of saving a mil on debuchy has cost him in terms of league positions and the global brand he was trying to advertise NUFC as? Or how our league position has cost is in potential signings?
    Or how about waiting a full season before replacing a CF we’ve sold? Or not getting a much needed CB until 3 seasons later

    Pfft doesn’t matter when howay

  • 275 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Wiz

    You’re boring me now. You said you’ve read the accounts for 2011-12 but then you ask questions when you should already know the answers. I’m not going to answer any more stupid questions about the finances. If you want the answers, go and find them yourself. They are all there on the internet.

  • 276 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    John Tudor

    And I’m Noodlebug…

  • 277 Rake // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    It seems we won’t budge on all these inflated fees that are flying around…

    I really think we should/could pay out for Tom Ince anything under 9 million and I would personally be satisfied. Young, English and has an ease about how he plays just my 2 cents also 15 million for Mcarthy …. says it all really.

  • 278 agent007 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    SIGNINGS WE WILL NOT HAVE THINKS 007

  • 279 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    so is the meaning of life.
    all the truths and lies are on there

  • 280 Edd Case // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    @263.

    I don’t know.

    MA couldn’t care less if we get injuries etc.

    He is a gambler. He is willing to BET his money that we have a good enough squad to stay up because if we do that, with the TV money etc, we’ll be in PROFIT again – which as I say, is the selling point for the club.

    MA is a shrewd business man and ruthless too. He’s a smart and he must have realised that you can do the cheapest deals in the Jan window for players in their last few months of their contracts.

    I have no problem with that to a degree but it feels really wrong because it’s not the footballing norm and half way through a season it’s not great for any team either I’d have thought.

    Rest assured though people, we’re being sold, no other possibility as we must have a kitty of £20M which hasn’t been touched – all going into MA’s pocket guys.

  • 281 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Dani Pachecho moves from Liverpool

  • 282 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Ian,

    I’m sure Ashley has a coin in his pocket that was.
    Were you really there on Saturday? Great feeling there when that happens, innit?
    I only saw the last 20 minutes, and it was as well as we’ve played for a while. Confidence! Though the first half was so-so, I understand.

  • 283 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Thump

    I think we just need to establish ourselves as a consistent top 10 club, preferably more like 7th/8th rather than 9th/10th of course.

    Then, we will be a much more attractive prospect to players and also to a manager who wants the glory of taking an outside club into the CL places. Look at what Spurs did, we need to do the same for a few years, but we’re way behind at the moment.

    This is an excellent site for information. You can see the staff here: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/newcastle-united/mitarbeiter/verein_762.html

  • 284 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Evening all,

    I don’t understand why we’re all losing our heads now. We all had a vague feeling that this transfer window would end up like this, but even by my incredibly low expectations of this club and its owner, he does continue to fall short of them.

    It is a sad fact. We can b**ch and moan, and whine about Pardew, about Kinnear and about Ashley, but until we try to do something about what is systematically wrong with our club, nothing will really change.

    Question is, do you want to sit on your arse and moan like a child, or take affirmative action that could potentially benefit the club? The choice is yours people.

  • 285 greg // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    AP: Cabaye re-joins us like new signing

  • 286 Felipe // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    @tads 273

    I said that it would have been better if we had done it straight after we finished 5th but just because we didn’t doesn’t mean it’s not building. We now have a better team/squad than when we finished 5th.

  • 287 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Ashley and JFK are cnuts anyone who thinks this has been a decent window and thinks the complete lack of ambition shown by those pair of cnuts is acceptable is not an NUFC fan and is also a Cnut!!

  • 288 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Espn still saying deals are close for nufc

  • 289 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Can I ask some of you guys who does the finances at your house – hope it’s the missus ;-) lol

    Evening lads! So Sport Direct News have Cabaye going to Man Utd now ;-) I remember them forseeing us bidding for Rooney a while back lol

  • 290 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Zebras no one else is :-(

  • 291 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    jesper

    Well said on both points!

  • 292 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    @GFN_France: According to France Football, teams wanting to sign Boudebouz will have to pay just over €1m: http://t.co/U6cK6MHb5R #deadlinedaylive

    This right here is why Ashley is an unambitious tight greedy tw@

  • 293 Beattie25 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Maxime Lestienne still hasn’t moved in this window.

    He’d be perfect.

  • 294 NUFC FOR SALE // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    I want the club to explain exactly what they are paying Kinnear to do.

    I agree we have a good squad but we are desperate for at least one more striker. .. but nothing. …Joke Heed is incompetent but I presume Ashley knew this and it’s exactly why he was given the job to ensure we signed nobody.

  • 295 AaranD // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    “Judge me after the players I sign.” – Joe Kinnear

  • 296 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Didn’t sign anyone last summer and that was deemed to be a mistake.

    Kinnear signed up … to assess the squad, ship out the dross and replace with a better quality player.

    So Kinnear does absolutely nothing bar his Talksport interviews and Remy on loan with no “to buy” clause.

    You have to wonder why Ashley leaves a 300M asset in the control of fools.
    Of course he wouldn’t. Ashley makes every major decision.
    He’s just not very good at it.
    He might be able to run a clothing empire but he can’t run NUFC to it’s potential.
    He “bottled” it in the relegation season and hasn’t grown his balls back yet.

  • 297 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    @toonarmydownsouth: I’m failing to see your point…?

  • 298 Beattie25 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Boubedouz for less than a million pound?

    My god. Even if we just brought him in to push Gutierrez it’d be worth it.

  • 299 JAMSHA // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    dubzy

    dat kante guys isnt good i guess transfermarket value 50,000€…. then y r we payng 2mil…. frankly we need expericnd players nt some experimental players at this time…a loan move will be good

  • 300 Edd Case // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    AaranD // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    “Judge me after the players I sign.” – Joe Kinnear

    Would have said that BEFORE he realised the extent of the boundaries Newcastle United have placed on them for transfers by MA.

  • 301 jokinoot // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    So JFK will be redundant after 11 pm if his job is o get players in some good news there then I wish

  • 302 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Ruddy

    Well said too.

    I’m all for change if it’s for the good of the club as long as it really is for the good of the club. As we know MA won’t/can’t sell up unless there’s a suitable offer and we know Pardew won’t be sacked unless our league position is dire, I think we need to find ways to help the club improve in less drastic ways.

    On the other hand, if someone can propose a realistic way of getting a better owner or better manager that is endorsed by the majority of the fans and has sensible football and business logic behind it, then I’m all for that too.

  • 303 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    @JohnBeresford3: So what exactly is joe kinnear’s job? no ambition. Ashley out.

    @nufcfans: This positive spin is so frustrating – “oh look, we kept hold of a player already contracted to club. Great window”. Why do #NUFC do this?

  • 304 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    nope he got remy in where all else failed

  • 305 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    We have offered bag of crisps and 10p mixup for Rooney … At least ash tried and the offer was within our budget – this window is shocking last summers was bad but this takes the biscuit – anyone still hoping summick pulled out the bag – or just morally smashed like me :-(

  • 306 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    TDS,

    I really don’t get this about you. Why do you always set the ceiling at 7th?
    Is there something in that top six you don’t want us to challenge?

  • 307 archaeomag // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Even the BBC saying they do not expect anybody in at NUFC

  • 308 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    @naptoon: Does this mean there’s a second hand 10p mixup going wanting?

  • 309 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Thump
    We need a winger yes?
    We have tracked this lad for years, Carr has had him on list they have said before we’ve expressed interest his contract is nearly up and he’s available for under a million euros
    So we under bid for a 3rd choice keeper

    By all means thump feel free to show me the intent or ambition when we don’t show interest in players like this

  • 310 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Where is all the money going …?

    Lots in … bugger all out … we’re being screwed.

  • 311 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Thump
    Nope ash ate it …. And the crisps fat Cnut!

  • 312 MacToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Well this is going well.

    What I fail to understand is why all day people are entertaining what is clearly a minority view by a handful (if that) of posters.
    Would it not be more entertaining if we all just point and laugh!

  • 313 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    If our summer business was done in January then why the hell was JFK bought in and why has pardew spent all window begging for players?

  • 314 Thump // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    @naptoon: Well that fat fcuk has ruined my deadline day.

  • 315 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    BandB

    For this season, we should see 7th as a very good season. The squads of the top 6 are simply much better than ours, backed by the fact that they can pay higher transfer fees, higher wages and most of them can offer European football. I say “can” because they can without going into debt – we can’t match them in that respect.

    I’d absolutely love us to have a bash at the top 6 and I hope the players are ambitious enough to give it a real go and prove they are better than most people think they are.

    I don’t set the ceiling anywhere, I just think that 7th would be a very good season for us.

  • 316 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    MacToon
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_4bLNM0axE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8_4bLNM0axE

  • 317 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Remy only summer signing = JFK has failed in his job = JFK should be removed from job and placed back on the scrap heap

    Simple enough?

  • 318 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    So JFK disappears into the sunset until January?

    He can’t do interviews.
    He can’t show his face at SJP.

    Well done for blagging whatever wages you’ve conned out of Ashley.

  • 319 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    BandB – if you want to play the games of others I’ll just ignore you! It’s your choice.

    I have been to our two home games but not the away games at City and Morecambe. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to fit in football to a work schedule because I have to swap working times and it inevitably means working longer hours.

    Our performance on Saturday was a vast improvement and something to build momentum which is important. Given our home showings it
    could well be a milestone.

  • 320 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    MacToon,

    I had thought to mention that. It is like the days of the Ov in reverse.
    I’ve just remembered a pile of clothes that won’t iron themselves.

  • 321 AaranD // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    We all knew deep down not much if anything was going to happen this transfer window. We always hold on to our players unless a massive bid comes in.

    If anyone signs it will be for around £6-8 million.
    That Ryad Boudebouz would be good for £1 million, a bargain which Ashley likes and would of been seen by Carr.
    Also think we missed a trick with Marko Arnoutovic, £2 million is a bargain for a player like him.

  • 322 MrMojoRisin76 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    I wonder who we are going to put a bid in for at 10.45pm?

  • 323 NUFC FOR SALE // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    I hope the fans make their thoughts known at the next home game. … preferably with less than 30k at the game.

    We are going to get wolopped off of villa next game.

  • 324 MacToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Cheers tads :lol:

    Kinda ruins the blog imho when one or two believe they have the answers and make themsleves centre of attention and go on and on and …….

  • 325 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Ian,

    I was just asking you a question.
    I am happy to talk to you.
    And just you.
    Understand?

  • 326 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Mactoon

    I’m always right too if you hadn’t noticed … ;-)

  • 327 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Official. Ireland to Stoke.

  • 328 JAMSHA // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Well its time to protest and destroy all sportsdirect shops n advertisment boards in the city

  • 329 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Boudabouz is far better than Jonas. He’s exactly the player we need. He will cost more than £1m

  • 330 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    MacToon

    I’m not sure who is the minority though…?

  • 331 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Official. Wales to Ireland to plug the gap.

  • 332 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Mojo
    £3mil bid for Messi at 10:59

  • 333 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Dear god. Official. Mariappa to Palac

  • 334 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Darnsarf
    Mate you are

  • 335 MacToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Unfortunately not my words but agree with them 100%

    “Ashley’s arbitrary decisions are always rationalised and explained not by him, but the sad people who just love being abused by him.”

  • 336 Sazzer // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Newcastle have made an improved offer for Kante of Caen after their €2m offer was rejected according to Steve Wyss.

  • 337 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Mactoon
    Spot on … Who said it

  • 338 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Everyone on here is in the minority.

    The crowd at SJP are mainly young affluent or middle aged, family guys with their kids.

  • 339 Pokat // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    I am getting worried old Cabsy doesn’t actually go. If he stays now we will have to put up with his face being longer than JFK’s bar bill.

    I hate wantaways they do me nut in. Get him gone! buy someone! Do SOMETHING, ANYTHING!

  • 340 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    BandB- there has always only been me. I suggest you contact Ed if you have any doubts. He gave me a clean bill of health months ago which he reiterated whilst I was holidaying. In fact he has if anything encouraged me to post more often.

    I suggest you contact him if you have any remaining doubts!

  • 341 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    geoff777

  • 342 SuperBennyfragalisticmaccamsareatrocious // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    AH HAWAY MAN KEVIN MAN BUT ANDY COLE MAN – Anyone remmber that fan outside st james when we sold andrew cole. That me now…..totally and utterly distraught at the lack of action….AH MAN KEVIN MAN BUT ANDY COLE MAN

  • 343 theartfuldodger // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Looks like NUFC has three factions
    1. Fans and Players
    2. Pardew,Carver,Stone
    3. Ashley kinnear

    All three have different views on transfers and think independantly.
    However irrespective of the other 2 Ashleys decision is what counts. It doesent matter what the other 2 say.

  • 344 Quasimodo's tailor // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Some people post on here as if they’re trying to emulate Tolstoy. It’s a football blog for crying out loud. Not a platform for posters to try and impress everyone with their grasp of the English language. Verbal diarrhoea more like.

  • 345 geoff777 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Ian Toon

  • 346 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    MacToon/naptoon

    Some of us have to explain them because others are too stupid/ignorant/lazy/biased/angry to bother understanding them.

    It’s not my fault people can’t put themselves in another person’s shoes and understand why they made a certain decision.

  • 347 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    TDSarf

    The only thing where we differ is that I firmly believe that getting rid of Mike Ashley now is for the benefit of the club, of course I want to be firm in the belief that any new owner will bring about a much more ambitious approach and take this club to the next level but the truth is, none of us really know until we see a new owner in action.

    I’m of the belief that any owner is better than Ashley, may be a simplistic approach, but other than get us on a seemingly better financial footing, what has he achieved? We’ve signed some very good players, granted, but that is negated by the terrible manager that Ashley has employed.

    So, do we becomes the fans of the round table and actually sit down and discuss how best to move forward? And what I mean by that is, what we need to do to get rid of Ashley.

  • 348 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    BandB

    I strongly suggest you do contact him.

  • 349 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Ian Toon,
    Ed gave you a clean bill of health, he fixes computers not your physiological issues.

  • 350 MacToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    So what’s the chances that our biggest signing of the summer will be in jail by Christmas!

  • 351 Sazzer // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    This Kante thing can’t be true by the way.

  • 352 toon kk // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    What a JOKE our club has become. On ssn every club being mentioned about possible transfers or transfers they’ve done but Newcastle.
    Winning against Fulham must have made them decide our squad is strong enough.

  • 353 hugotoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    If Joe Kinnear had any dignity he would resign, of course as we know none of the current hierachy at Mike Ashley’s ‘sports direct’ Newcastle possess such a trait. Certainly if Ashley’s running of the club wasnt based upon personal friendships Pardew and Kinnear would never of been hired and would have both been fired by now.

    Why does Ashley not have any ambition??

    Please let this be the season that a passionate, wealthy, billionaire willing to spend, takes over this once great club.

  • 354 Sazzer // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    According to our friends at France Football any club wanting to sign Ryad Boudebouz will have to pay just over €1m.

    Why aren’t we in?

  • 355 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Ian,

    The blog needs antagonists. Ian Toon, in my experience, has always been fair to me.
    However, I have sometimes felt like I was fighting a proxy war against a plethora of posters who spring up from nowhere, with a encyclopaedic knowledge of the history of the blog, and preset agenda which closely mirrors your own.
    Maybe you are just unlucky in your friends. I don’t like to see people get a kicking, and when people wade in on MY side at any time in an unfair way, I ask them to back off. So I’ll look out for you telling a few cheerleaders to butt out.

  • 356 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    At least we won’t be held to ransom.
    It’s great isn’t it ?

  • 357 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    Ruddy

    I’m all for getting in an owner who actually has some form of personal investment in the club. They don’t have to be a fan of the football club but I want them to invest their own time and emotions into understanding the ethos of the club and its fans. He started to do that but it went horribly wrong early on and it’s a shame he didn’t just sell up and go then. But he didn’t…and since then I have to say that his decisions have been mostly solid.

    But that doesn’t change the fact that I’d like the owner back that we initially thought he was. The fans will never forgive him and let him return to that role so we need a new owner. No argument there.

    The question is when? There’s no point in protesting to demand he leaves the club immediately when we know he’s so stubborn that he’s more likely to grind the club into the ground, take back loads of money and sell it for £100M when we’re languishing in the Championship.

    So…we either:
    – make a uniteed statement asking him to consider selling the club to someone who will treat the club and fans the way they deserve OR
    – accept that it’s a medium-term goal and accept he’s taking money out so the club can be sold for a lesser amount OR
    – accept that the mess is partially our fault (over-reaction to the KK situation) and at least try to mend some of the bridges even though we’re never going to mend them all

  • 358 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Toon kk,
    It was decided at the start of the summer only one would be coming in, when Remy gets his inevitable strain or hamstring we are back to the same team that managed 4 goals in 986 minutes of PL football.

  • 359 naptoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Darnsarf
    I have no empathy for ash …. Just as he has none for us

  • 360 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Mactoon.
    Taylor just like a new signing again once that bans up.

  • 361 piers18 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    https://twitter.com/meatmansoccer….get a load of this guy

  • 362 lukes26 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    I believe in Kinnear.

    I think we’ll sign gomis today & cabaye isnt going anywhere

    How people are outraged at Cabaye the same way they’re outraged at Kinnear is beyond me

    Kinnear never pushed a ball boy, the only time Kinnear failed to show up to work was when he had a heart attack. Kinnear doesn’t come across as a sulking twit,

  • 363 L.ARAVIND // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    revolt against ahley……..GTH…f you bastard…let him lose his hand and get rare disease….

  • 364 voodoo85 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Hearing Alderweild has joined Atletico Madrid

  • 365 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Arsenal signed GK Viviano from Palermo

  • 366 MacToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Belfast :lol:

    The old ones are the best. I think I’m close to the point of “past caring” however, one last go…………

  • 367 piers18 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Apparently we are going after a Ligue 2 defender….Obviously this shows real ambition on deadline day!!! Lol but in all seriousness, deadline day deals should be big name players….small market signings on DD signify failure lmao.

  • 368 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    TDsarf,
    Partially our fault for over reacting, are you for real, people sussed him out then thevreaction was because if he can publicly treat a club legend like that whatdoes he think of us. Solid decisions, bbringing in Wise and Kinnear, selling Milner changing the stadium name signing up wonga not spending money we clearly had last summer, the list of idiotic decisions rather than solid ones is endless.

  • 369 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    naptoon

    Empathy? Or just understanding. He’s a successful businessman. That comes with good things and bad things. I like the good things but I’m frustrated with the bad things.

    Shepherd was pretty much the opposite. But at least the club will be in a good state when Ashley leaves, even though we’re being left behind by the top 6 due to bad decisions made by both Shepherd AND Ashley.

  • 370 L.ARAVIND // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    f u ashley…..three months of complete utter shit…..waste let u suffer some vicious health issues….u r born to make everyone pissed off…bast…d

  • 371 Zebras4Life // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Official. Villa sign ST Kozak

  • 372 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    TDSarf

    For the most part, you and I disagree, and even though there are aspects of your previous comment that I wouldn’t 100% agree with, I think that right now, our views are very closely mirroring one another.

    The likelihood of seeing Mike Ashley sell up this season is slim, however, we should always be keeping up the pressure on him in a variety of different ways to ensure that he is well aware that in the mind of the fans, his time is up.

    He’s never going to see this club fall into the Championship, because it’s worth nothing to him there, he tried to sell it for 100m the last time we were relegated and he failed.

    The likely scenario is that he tries to recoup a large chunk of his money over the next three years and in that time looks for a buyer whom he can sell to for around 200m.

    Do we wait silently until that happens, or do we put intense pressure on him?

  • 373 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Who is this kante??? I cant find anything about him or a transfer to us.

  • 374 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Luke= troll

  • 375 L.ARAVIND // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    THIS SITE IS REALLY RUN VERY POORLY….ALL MY COMMENTS ARE NOT PUBLISHED SINCE I USE JUST THE “F…” WORD…..WTF EVEN NOW IF I CANT EXPRESS MY FEELING….THIS SHOWS THAT THIS IS A SHIT BLOG

  • 376 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    geoff- At this time of the year a number of long standing season ticket holders are still on holiday. Saturday saw a number of young people in the East stand who do not frequent usually. There are indeed a number of ‘middle class ‘ types of long support standing who have longer memories than the younger breed of difficult times off the field Everything is relative and any problems off the field, history of the football club has frequently shown manifests itself on the field.

    I would suggest that the SJP crowd is largely not represented on here. Having bought a season ticket why would you boycott a game. Those talking of boycotting largely dont go to the games anyway.

    Someone mentioned to me, that it was against Hull City that the last Ashley protest occurred and reflected that it was a waste of time and suggested that’s why we lost 2-1. I remember the game for Xisco scoring on his debut and Danny Guthrie getting sent off.

    The crowd On Saturday were supportive of the team and talk of Ashley not heard. I did hear an outburst from a solitary fan near me against Pardew when he made the subs but he was subsequently ridiculed by his mates when we suddenly looked like a proper team. Geordies get behind. The team.

  • 377 spitfire_ // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Markaccus

    The next Amalfitano lol

  • 378 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    JfA

    I’ve stated several times that I think bringing in KK was a cock-up and trying to correct that cock-up by bringing in Wise was another cock-up. KK will never manage a PL club again and should not have been given the chance with us. He should have retained his status without that blemish. But his decisions were made because he thought that what was best. He didn’t do it to hurt the club or the fans, he just made mistakes. We’ve all made them!

    Like I said, I think he should have sold up at that point because he lost the fans, but I’d rather he spoke publically, discussed the reasons that he did what he did and put a system in place to have dialogue with the fans as well as appoint an experienced football director to help him.

    Most of the decisions you mention are not idiotic at all! Some are mistakes but not as huge as you make out. Milner wanted out anyway, stadium name was only temporary and not for real anyway, Wonga is a purely financial thing (even though I hate the company).

  • 379 MacToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Sorry naptoon I didn’t answer before. The statement came from a blogger and if I named him I guess I might get accused of being in his fanclub like yesterday! It was one of Solano’s classics ;-)

  • 380 DevonToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Well if utd pull it off, ander herrera will be best signing of this window imo

  • 381 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    gone are the days

  • 382 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Ruddy

    What will the pressure do though? I can’t see it doing any good for the club.

  • 383 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    A midfeilder then? Spitfire.
    Seriously know nowt about the bloke lol

  • 384 Ian Toon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    BandB – I have to go but let me reiterate I have only ever posted under my own name.

  • 385 catchy in norway // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    the long term goal (i mean these next 2 seasons)for the fans , has to be get Ashley out of the club,, he is only greedy, and out for himself, so this is the wrong business to be in

    but the short term goal , (like now/today) is get pardew as far away from this club as is humanly possible, he is bringing the club down to an unhealthy level (crap football unhappy fans)
    he is spineless,gutless and i hate him so much, and yes hate is a strong word

  • 386 spitfire_ // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Markaccus

    No no… I mean good as Amalfitano.

  • 387 Belfast // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    373
    Ferk and Fluck works for me.

  • 388 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    TDSarf

    It won’t do any harm, it could open the dialogue we’ve been calling out for, it could hasten his exit, it could possibly force him to stop treating the fans with such disdain as he knows we won’t stand for it.

    All I know is, it won’t do any harm. Those who are doing the damage to the club are those who are operating inside of it.

  • 389 eaststandgeordie1982 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Another shite window

  • 390 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Spitfire

    Ah right. Thats…. erm …. er …. great. Almost as good as catchy wanting joe kinnear as this seasons manager. ( because if pardew goes that is EXACTLY what will happen)

  • 391 jimiley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    We should not rush to judge Mike Ashley and Pardew until after the deadline. Even then, any criticism may be premature. There is always January and next summer. Plenty of time to bring in the big names. We need to be more patient. Rome was not built in a day. The management are not going to be rushed and worst case scenario we may sign nobody so they believe that the squad is big and good enough. I think we should cut the owner some slack. Judge him at the end of the season.

  • 392 Jail for Ashley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    TDsarf,
    Keegan was visibly shaken when talking about the Milner sale that doesn’t happen when a player wants away, was the 11M worth it in the long run and the 40M + relegation cost us, KK has us playing good football in the end and wanted to sign Modric rather than Xisco and Nacho Gonzales, as far as wonga apparantly the deal is less than the virgin deal, more money being diverted perhaps.

  • 393 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Ruddy

    Dialogue is good. Ranting and raving is bad..

    People who get involved with the fans groups and the fans forums have my respect. Especially those who want constructive dialogue with the club.

  • 394 catchy in norway // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    ian toon

    i think your deluded mate,

    i have many friends who do go to the match who all say the oppisit to what your saying,, i know of 3 of my friends who have not renewed there ST because pardew is running things

    i also guess the tv is now editing in the boos moans and groans, as i hear it loud and clear come sub time

  • 395 BandB // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Ian,

    But I seem to recall, very vividly, you suggesting that, despite living in the south east, you were going to purchase your first ever season ticket this year just to shame stay-aways like myself.
    You do have a remarkable power for judging the mood of vast swathes of people, even after just two trips up the Boulevard humming; “Whistle a Happy Tune.”
    How to you know those talking of a boycott never go to games? That is, with respect, an insulting assertion of your own opinion.

  • 396 toon kk // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Mashley doesn’t deserve a premier league club. I’m not sure he wants one.
    You would think after last years mistake of not strengthening would have made him pull his finger out but no.
    Gambling with our status is a dangerous game.
    For the sake of a couple of quality players to transform our team is pathetic penny pinching. JOKE.

  • 397 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Jimiley

    Don’t be ridiculous. Not even going to waste my time dissecting everything that is wrong with that last comment.

  • 398 spitfire_ // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Markaccus

    All we can do right now is to make a joke for all jokers in the club…it’s just pathetic.

  • 399 north_country_boy // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    I don’t understand why Carr was given an 8 year contract to scout new players then Kinnear brought in to sign them then nothing happens? I can just imagine the conversations: Ashley: Graham how do you feel about an 8 year contract to scout players from every corner of the world but there’s something you may need to know… I’m not giving you any money to buy anyone! ????maybe it makes sense to someone?

  • 400 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    So basically we’re not even signing the “bare minimum” striker?

  • 401 nico // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    jimiley

    Are you Ashley in disguise

  • 402 Indian Magpie // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    Every NUFC fan deserves to slap Ashley, Kinnear and Pardew at least once.

  • 403 AaranD // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    All ex-toon players having a pop at the current regime and the lack of ambition at the club.

    Maybe that’s what we need to kick start a revolution.

  • 404 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Spitfire

    Something to keep the spirits up. Make fun of jfk et.c. I usually call him Jose Kinnearnho to cheer myself up.

  • 405 spitfire_ // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Indian Magpie

    Try with “to put a little iron between their eyes”.

  • 406 toon22 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    The only glimmer for me is the hope MA is selling up and just wants to squeeze every penny out first.
    JFK was supposed to get AP to walk,and we were meant to sell some top players and bring in cheap replacements.
    As it stands the only part to happen is the cheap replacements,i bet he has a price of the club before and after 11pm today(i hope)
    He truly is a greedy fat b*s5trd.

  • 407 nico // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Prem League transfer spending for this window
    522 million.

    Toon 0

  • 408 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Aaran

    So far I’ve read comments from Tino Asprilla, Rob Lee, John Beresford and not to mention the criticisms levelled at Ashley from both Keegan and Shearer over the past few years. Are there any more?

  • 409 Sazzer // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/who-is-ngolo-kante/

  • 410 jimiley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Any speculation on this blog by Ed and bloggers about who we may sign should be banned. It just stresses everybody out and is a waste of time. We never sign anybody we are “interested in.” It is all bollocks. Just wait to see who we get over the line. It is usually nobody so speculation is a total waste. How much time and effort has been expanded on this blog on signings over the last 6 months? To what positive result. ZERO. You have all wasted hours of your own time. Praise or castigate the regime. Speculate on the team set up but please STOP SPECULATING ABOUT SIGNINGS. It is pointless.

  • 411 roe997 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Would love to see boudabouz over the line.great player for 1m.

  • 412 nico // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Wigan bidding 6 million for Rodes.
    I like him but we can’t match the spending power of the might Wigan

  • 413 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    @405
    equates to the mire to me

  • 414 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Jimiley

    So on transfer deadline day, transfer speculation should be banned? Gone give your head a shake, go for a lie down, and come back in a few months time lad.

  • 415 AaranD // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Ruddy
    Mick Quinn and Robbie Elliot from the past half hour alone. Probably countless more over the weeks months and years.

  • 416 DS_NUFC // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    so shane long might be going to hull. what is joe kinnear doing???

  • 417 Sazzer // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Ngolo Kante will start for Caen, which suggests the 2nd Newcastle bid was rejected. The player is in any case

  • 418 geordielad880 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    ngolo kante is playing tonight, according to gfn france, so we are obviously not getting the player

  • 419 Sazzer // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    West Brom striker Shane Long is on his way to have a medical at Hull City.

  • 420 yorkshireToon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Why are we not trying to sign Shane long who is possibly moving to hull, would give us an extra option and is quick.

    Jordan Rhodes… I don’t fancy him really but at 6 mill maybe worth a punt.

    This is definitely the lowest I’ve been as a Newcastle fan since Ashley took over. Lower than the relegation I’d even say as there is no effort to improve, just content with mid table mediocrity

  • 421 Markaccus // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Jimiley

    You are kidding right? Bloggers should not blog, then? You are saying we should not come here and discus the most current and pressing matters, because transfers are the subject of the day after all. Im off until you are not here, as you have had too many bossy pills. Bloggers banned for blogging? Never read anyrhing so stupid in my life

  • 422 geordielad880 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    did anyone anyone actually think for one minute we would sign anyone??

  • 423 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Anyone else see the painful irony that the only player we were able to get was a loan what with the Wonga sponsorship and all .

    You can’t make this stuff up FFS.

  • 424 toon22 // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    How about Suleyman Kerimov as a name for a new owner.
    Hes fire selling players at FC Anzhi Makhachkala and hasnt Guss Hiddink just left?

    Might as well speculate about that as it wont matter what dregs we drag over the line imho.

  • 425 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    being a pariah on nufc with t@ashleys blessings

  • 426 jimiley // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    I stopped going to the ground two years ago after 50 years watching the Toon. That man is not taking any more of my money. I shall return when he is gone. Anybody who puts money in the fat man’s pocket is a mug punter. The only way to get him out is to stay away. Embarrass the guy. If you want to go to, the ground, put up and shut up because you are perpetuating the Ashley era. Easily the worst in the last 50 years. The guy is taking the p..s out of you and you are letting him do it. Muppets.

  • 427 colwell // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Can’t decide who from our new signings I should have on the back of my shirt??

  • 428 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    If Rhodes is going for £6M and is as good as people claim he is, then surely some clubs bigger than Wigan will be in for him?? I’d include the likes of Everton and us in there!

    His stats are impressive but I’ll bow to superior footballing knowledge of the managers and scouts of the PL teams in this instance.

  • 429 John Tudor // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    try on shirt N0knutin

  • 430 Toon toon b&w army // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Good old Jo, come up trumps in the nick of time with a top striker from South Korea, “Fookin Ne-Wan”

  • 431 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Blackburn bought him for 8m quid and he scores goals for fun in that league. The guy is going nowhere until he’s in the last year of his contract at the earliest.

  • 432 colwell // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    The only team in the Prem not to spend a penny! Fcuking pathetic.
    Oh well staying in the Prem seems not to be a priority anymore, Maybe that fat cnut is finally cashing in at last.

  • 433 ToonMobile // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Did we have an A, B C D list we were working from weeks ago…?

  • 434 scottoon // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    I always get really dismayed when I see the supporters turning on each other. It is apparent that we are all frustrated and angry but it does little good to vent at each other. We all want the same thing….a successful club. That doesn’t come from the supporters….we need a management structure that listens to its clientele, and delivers what that clientele wants. Maybe it starts with a unified voice….maybe it gets heard at a members forum…but the dilemma is the supporters are just left in the dark. The “voices” of our great club spit forth rhetoric at best, and complete BS at worst, cause they haven’t got the stones to tell it like it is. They are beholden to a man who is the only owner around who would employ them.

    Seems to me the solution is in open and frank conversation but nobody at the club is talking and we end up fighting amongst ourselves.

    It is a sad day for us all because the players are people too. They will not be immune to what is being said, and the speculation, and the griping. They will be left to ponder the clubs complete lack of ambition. And so no matter how good they might be, they will not be in a headspace to achieve as much as they could. Negative thoughts are killers. I worry about this year, and like everyone else, can’t see any answers.

    I do know that status quo is not a good answer.

  • 435 ToonMobile // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    That should be “didn’t we have an A, B, C, D…. list we were working from” The lack of activity and the promises of action just don’t add up. At least Joe Kinnear will be able to stick with his don’t judge me until you see the players I’ve signed speech..because he quite possibly won’t have signed anyone else but Remy!

  • 436 Ben3arfa // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    DEATH TO ASHLEY

    ” ” KINNEAR

  • 437 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Have I just heard right on SSN?

    That Palace have spent 40 million?

    That is unbelievable if true. If anyone has any doubts about the state of the way this club is ran on the footballing side just spare a thought on that.

    It’s actually embarrassing now.

    Painful.

  • 438 moonraker // Sep 2, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    I am thoroughly disgusted. WTF is JFK doing? and here we are talking about whether we can resist an offer for our only playmaker who doesn’t really wanna play for us!
    OMG this is shameful and they are also talking about signing a reserve goalie !!

    hahahahahahahahahahahaha we are a laughing stock

    but the tragedy is we have a good squad and for the sake of another 20 million could challenge for top 6 at least.

    Just a thought haven’t heard a dickie bird from useless JFK! has he died?

  • 439 Jack Attack Attack Attack // Sep 2, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Breaking news… Joe kinnear has a needle d1ck

    That said i think the squad we have now is better than the one that finished 5th, and with remy now playing in what should be a 4-3-3 system it should be more balanced than when demba ba was here! For this to work cisse needs to start finding the net again, but if the service improves as it did at the weekend then theres no doubt he will find his form!

    So yes fat mike is a greedy pr1ck and joe kinnear is an barassment but keep the faith its not all bad

  • 440 sa80teur // Sep 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    I for one are glad we’re not out there doing a Palace, spending money we don’t have.

    Shane long or Jordan Rhodes would be just mustard but never mind. Thought JFK could spot a player? Need to put your glasses on, Joe.




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