Poll – Where Will Newcastle Finish This Season?


Now that we know what the Newcastle squad is for this season and what our strengths and weaknesses are, we are going to run our poll again, as to where Newcastle will finish in the Premier League, and I may even get the poll right this time.

alan pardew pointing down

Alan Pardew – does this mean we are going down?

Let us know where you think Newcastle will finish next May in the Premier League.

Where Will Newcastle Finish This Season?

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61 comments so far

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #1

    Backup keepers
    Man City – 35 year old Richard Wright
    Man Utd – 22 year old Ben Amos
    Chelsea – 37 year old Hilario
    Arsenal – 28 year old Fabianski
    Spurs – 42 year old Friedel
    Liverpool – 20 year old Danny Ward
    Everton – 18 year old Mateusz Taudul
    Aston Villa – 20 year old Jed Steer

    With the exception of Arsenal and Spurs, none of those keepers have played much in the PL and Friedel is 28!

    Ben Amos looks promising but I wouldn’t have any of those keepers over our top 2.

    If we get a problem in that position, I’m sure we can get an emergency loan for a player like Friedel or Wright.

    Can we put the keeper debate to bed now?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #2

    John Tudor

    I said it’s 5, someone else pointed out that Gosling will step up from the reserves to fill the Perch role. If he did, then that would make it 6.

    However, I don’t think Gosling has improved sufficiently to deserve a significant place in the first team squad. 5 is still a big improvement!

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #3

    why would friedel or wright be loaned to us
    keepers mature

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #4

    and who started the debate

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #5

    Bad poll Ed! There’s a big difference between finishing a safe 11th or 12th and just surviving in 17th! Surely it could have been spread out more!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #6

    beattie

    i replied twice (forgot something on the first post) on the previous page…please reply on this one, thanks pal.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #7

    TDS

    I’d have gone top 6, 7 – 9, 10-14, 15-17, 18-20

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #8

    I have gone for 7-10th…predicted 10th at the start of the season as I feel although we have a good team pardew will cost us points over the year with bizarre decisions.

    A good manager I feel would have us 7th.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #9

    John Tudor

    Emergency loan, that’s what happens all the time. Do you follow football? If Krul or Elliott get injured then Newcastle will either decide Alnwick is good enough to be on the bench (and therefore is judged good enough to play if needed) or we will get an emergency loan for a player to go on the bench.

    Keepers mature..sure…so does cheese…but eventually it goes off…

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #10

    and as i said what you and others think is a stronger squad will only be proven at the end of the season or as i and many others think jan
    eds poll is testimony to that

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #11

    TS

    I’d have gone something like that too, possible 7th-10th and then 11-14th but otherwise the same.

    This way people can twist stats and say that 60% of voters said that we’d just survive relegation. 11th place wouldn’t be just surviving!

    I predicted 8th before and I’m sticking to it. I think an average PL manager should see us get that and I think that’s what Pardew is.

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  • Belfast

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #12

    11th to 17th, but If we get a few long term injuries like Colo for example, bottom three wouldn’t suprise me.

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #13

    more to the point how pathetic an argument ” do you know football ” at a pinch obviously more than you

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #14

    We have a better squad than when we finished 5th.
    Why is our target top 10 then and not top 4.

    We dont survive if we get 40 points. We survive if we dont end up in last 3. Its all relative.

    Kinnear and Ashley have taken a call and predicted top 10. Lets see how that turns out.
    Not getting players, keeping pardew, considering injuries, all their decisions. Now stand up for them and produce a top 10.
    In the eyes of the supporters you have not tried hard enough,hence failure isnt forgiven.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #15

    What really is annoying is the mixed messages coming from SJP all contradictory. We need players -then we don’t, squad needs strengthening then it doesn’t. We bid for a player then we’re told there is no money and we have to sell before we can buy. All this is tantamount to planning made on the hoof. We are probably going to fall into the same obvious trap as last year -regardless of whether we have additional EL games as last season.
    Couple of injuries and we will struggle -Benny is somewhat susceptible to knocks and Remy -whilst a good player -is injury prone – you just need to check out his playing history over the last 2-3 years. So I think we are gambling again on having a fully fit squad – it is a gamble that we just survived last season.
    Will be interesting to see how we do in the next few games. Still a bit mystified about the south of France meeting with Ashley – something must be afoot.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #16

    John Tudor

    Final results don’t prove squad strength, that’s just down to results! Our squad was theoretically better last year than the previous year but we did much worse.

    If we get lucky with injuries and key players are in top form then we could potentially challenge the top 6 again.

    Any club would struggle if key players are off form or get injured. Look what happened when to Chelsea and Liverpool when we finished above them!

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  • Indian Magpie

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #17

    Pray to god I am wrong

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  • Beattie25

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #18

    Sage

    The question wasn’t really if we are stronger than teams outside of the top 6. The question was have we strengthened from last year?

    I think not because of the strengthening of others.

    My view is also that when you consider all the variables (not just players on paper) then our team isn’t as strong as many of our rivals outside of the top 6. (That’s my opinion based on tactics, strength to depth ratios, management, morale, fan stability etc…).

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we will get relegated, unless we have long term injuries in the next few weeks.

    I do think though we will struggle, get hammered time and time again and fail to attract any sufficient quality next season after another low finish and a season filled with darkness.

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  • Jamiemac

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #19

    That surprises me. I thought it would be a lot closer between 7-10 and 11-17

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #20

    @look at what your saying now.surely squad strength determine results

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #21

    theartfuldodger

    Because 5th place was based on overachievement due to key players staying fit for most of the season and being on top form, plus Chelsea and Liverpool playing badly.

    The top 6 are sadly miles away from us realistically. We need to play out of our skin all season, get lucky with injuries AND hope that one of that top 6 screw up their season badly to think about getting into the top 6 this season.

    Anything other than top 10 is a failure. Ashley has made the call to keep Pardew, hire JFK, fail to authorise or push through any signings other than Remy and has set a fair target of top 10 minimum. It’s his bed…

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  • clinath@ed

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #22

    The squad MAY be stronger, but is it happier? Their state of mind following two poor summers of “not” spending has to have effected them somehow!

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #23

    no a club struggles when a thick manager persist in playing out of form players

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  • Slank

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #24

    The top seven are likely to be but not necessarily in this order but near enough:

    1 Chelsea
    2 Man City
    3 Man Utd (to the disappointment of Kegs)
    4 Arsenal
    5 Liverpool
    6 Spurs
    7 Everton

    The next few are likely to be but not necessarily in this order:

    8 Newcastle
    9 Villa
    10 West Ham
    11 Southampton
    12 Norwich
    13 Swansea

    I think the recently promoted clubs are the most likely candidates for the drop. Other clubs who could be in the mix are Fulham, West Brom, and Sunderland. Almost every year a second season club flirts with relegation. This could be Southampton, Norwich or Swansea.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #25

    Mister Tuff

    You’re right. The biggest problem is communication. That failure also leads to miscommunication regarding certain points. I don’t believe it was ever announced that the club had to sell to buy, I’m pretty sure we said we did have money for the right players the whole time. But a dodgy journos fill the vacuum left by the club and rumours like that gain credence…sad…

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  • Beattie25

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #26

    Anyone else heard that Amalfitano has signed for Dijon?

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #27

    depends on how much waccy baccy kinnear smokes in the bogs

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #28

    John Tudor

    How does it? Chelsea and Liverpool had a better squad than us when they finished below us in 2011/12? Man City have the best squad now, should we just give then the trophy now? They probably did last year too but Fergie won with his brilliance.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #29

    As BEATTIE 25 said

    Our squad in absolute terms may be stronger, but relative to other teams its very weak.

    Teams that used to be behind us, are at worst on the same footing now.

    Top 10 is the goal, Top 11-12 will be the goal next season.

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  • Slank

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #30

    Mister Tuff @ 15

    I agree that the South of France meeting was very odd in its timing. I can’t believe, at this 11th hour, that the only topic was who are we going to buy.

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  • mindshaft

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #32

    Think we’ll finish anywhere between 7th and bottom dependent on players playing to potential, staying free of injuries and none of our players leaving in Jan ( can’t imagine they are that happy at the clubs lack of ambition on signings this summer )

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  • Mr Magpie

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #33

    Beattie25
    Relatively new to this blog (about 3 weeks)
    So not attempting a debate just interested in yours & everyone else views.
    Is you thinking we will struggle & get hammered based solely on quality of squad/lack of investment or also are your concerns based on the current manager?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #34

    Slank

    I’d put Everton in the 2nd group to be honest as I think they have about as much chance for top 6 as us.

    Saints, Norwich, Swansea may have strengthened but they still have massive weaknesses in their squads with championship level players as squad players or backups. A £12M striker doesn’t turn the rest of the squad into world beaters. We know that well organised promoted teams can do well in their first season or two, it’s after that that it gets tough.

    I also think that Villa could go either way. They’re relying a lot on Benteke and some talented youngsters.

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  • Toonfan8

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #35

    we have solid squad, but we still had to manage ins of Douglas for free and Demba Ba on loan 1,5M…with these two we would be in excellent shape…

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #36

    Indian Magpie

    Like I say, I don’t think that the signings for the likes of Norwich, Southampton and Swansea put them on the same footing at all. Have a look at their squad man for man and compare it to ours.

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  • gus3232

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #37

    think pardew next team choice is huge,if jonas,tiote and taylor start i give up,should be the team most on here are saying,anita cabaye sissoko midfield 3,remy 1 side arfa the other,cisse through middle,its not rocket science…….then again its alan fckin pardew we talking about

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  • Slank

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #38

    Indian @ 29

    ‘Teams that used to be behind us, are at worst on the same footing now’.

    Being very pedantic that is Sunderland as the others got relegated !

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  • Unbelievable Tekkers

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #39

    I think in between 10-12th. Yes we haven’t strengthened massively but we do have some things going in our favour. Less games, better fitness and hopefully less injuries, Remy. If we keep Benny, Cabaye and Remy fit then we’ll do ok and everbodys expectations are so low that it shouldn’t be too difficult to exceed them.

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  • Toonfan8

    Sep 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #40

    TDS—we should sell Tiote and bring Wanyama, exciting prospect….shame he went to Soton

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