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Poll – Where Will Newcastle Finish This Season?

10:06 am, Wednesday, September 4th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 61 Comments

Now that we know what the Newcastle squad is for this season and what our strengths and weaknesses are, we are going to run our poll again, as to where Newcastle will finish in the Premier League, and I may even get the poll right this time.

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Alan Pardew - does this mean we are going down?

Let us know where you think Newcastle will finish next May in the Premier League.

Where Will Newcastle Finish This Season?

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61 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Backup keepers
    Man City – 35 year old Richard Wright
    Man Utd – 22 year old Ben Amos
    Chelsea – 37 year old Hilario
    Arsenal – 28 year old Fabianski
    Spurs – 42 year old Friedel
    Liverpool – 20 year old Danny Ward
    Everton – 18 year old Mateusz Taudul
    Aston Villa – 20 year old Jed Steer

    With the exception of Arsenal and Spurs, none of those keepers have played much in the PL and Friedel is 28!

    Ben Amos looks promising but I wouldn’t have any of those keepers over our top 2.

    If we get a problem in that position, I’m sure we can get an emergency loan for a player like Friedel or Wright.

    Can we put the keeper debate to bed now?

  • 2 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    John Tudor

    I said it’s 5, someone else pointed out that Gosling will step up from the reserves to fill the Perch role. If he did, then that would make it 6.

    However, I don’t think Gosling has improved sufficiently to deserve a significant place in the first team squad. 5 is still a big improvement!

  • 3 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    why would friedel or wright be loaned to us
    keepers mature

  • 4 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    and who started the debate

  • 5 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Bad poll Ed! There’s a big difference between finishing a safe 11th or 12th and just surviving in 17th! Surely it could have been spread out more!

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    beattie

    i replied twice (forgot something on the first post) on the previous page…please reply on this one, thanks pal.

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    TDS

    I’d have gone top 6, 7 – 9, 10-14, 15-17, 18-20

  • 8 Transfer Sage // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    I have gone for 7-10th…predicted 10th at the start of the season as I feel although we have a good team pardew will cost us points over the year with bizarre decisions.

    A good manager I feel would have us 7th.

  • 9 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    John Tudor

    Emergency loan, that’s what happens all the time. Do you follow football? If Krul or Elliott get injured then Newcastle will either decide Alnwick is good enough to be on the bench (and therefore is judged good enough to play if needed) or we will get an emergency loan for a player to go on the bench.

    Keepers mature..sure…so does cheese…but eventually it goes off…

  • 10 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    and as i said what you and others think is a stronger squad will only be proven at the end of the season or as i and many others think jan
    eds poll is testimony to that

  • 11 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    TS

    I’d have gone something like that too, possible 7th-10th and then 11-14th but otherwise the same.

    This way people can twist stats and say that 60% of voters said that we’d just survive relegation. 11th place wouldn’t be just surviving!

    I predicted 8th before and I’m sticking to it. I think an average PL manager should see us get that and I think that’s what Pardew is.

  • 12 Belfast // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    11th to 17th, but If we get a few long term injuries like Colo for example, bottom three wouldn’t suprise me.

  • 13 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    more to the point how pathetic an argument ” do you know football ” at a pinch obviously more than you

  • 14 theartfuldodger // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    We have a better squad than when we finished 5th.
    Why is our target top 10 then and not top 4.

    We dont survive if we get 40 points. We survive if we dont end up in last 3. Its all relative.

    Kinnear and Ashley have taken a call and predicted top 10. Lets see how that turns out.
    Not getting players, keeping pardew, considering injuries, all their decisions. Now stand up for them and produce a top 10.
    In the eyes of the supporters you have not tried hard enough,hence failure isnt forgiven.

  • 15 Mister Tuff // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    What really is annoying is the mixed messages coming from SJP all contradictory. We need players -then we don’t, squad needs strengthening then it doesn’t. We bid for a player then we’re told there is no money and we have to sell before we can buy. All this is tantamount to planning made on the hoof. We are probably going to fall into the same obvious trap as last year -regardless of whether we have additional EL games as last season.
    Couple of injuries and we will struggle -Benny is somewhat susceptible to knocks and Remy -whilst a good player -is injury prone – you just need to check out his playing history over the last 2-3 years. So I think we are gambling again on having a fully fit squad – it is a gamble that we just survived last season.
    Will be interesting to see how we do in the next few games. Still a bit mystified about the south of France meeting with Ashley – something must be afoot.

  • 16 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    John Tudor

    Final results don’t prove squad strength, that’s just down to results! Our squad was theoretically better last year than the previous year but we did much worse.

    If we get lucky with injuries and key players are in top form then we could potentially challenge the top 6 again.

    Any club would struggle if key players are off form or get injured. Look what happened when to Chelsea and Liverpool when we finished above them!

  • 17 Indian Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Pray to god I am wrong

  • 18 Beattie25 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Sage

    The question wasn’t really if we are stronger than teams outside of the top 6. The question was have we strengthened from last year?

    I think not because of the strengthening of others.

    My view is also that when you consider all the variables (not just players on paper) then our team isn’t as strong as many of our rivals outside of the top 6. (That’s my opinion based on tactics, strength to depth ratios, management, morale, fan stability etc…).

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we will get relegated, unless we have long term injuries in the next few weeks.

    I do think though we will struggle, get hammered time and time again and fail to attract any sufficient quality next season after another low finish and a season filled with darkness.

  • 19 Jamiemac // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    That surprises me. I thought it would be a lot closer between 7-10 and 11-17

  • 20 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    @look at what your saying now.surely squad strength determine results

  • 21 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    theartfuldodger

    Because 5th place was based on overachievement due to key players staying fit for most of the season and being on top form, plus Chelsea and Liverpool playing badly.

    The top 6 are sadly miles away from us realistically. We need to play out of our skin all season, get lucky with injuries AND hope that one of that top 6 screw up their season badly to think about getting into the top 6 this season.

    Anything other than top 10 is a failure. Ashley has made the call to keep Pardew, hire JFK, fail to authorise or push through any signings other than Remy and has set a fair target of top 10 minimum. It’s his bed…

  • 22 clinath@ed // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    The squad MAY be stronger, but is it happier? Their state of mind following two poor summers of “not” spending has to have effected them somehow!

  • 23 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    no a club struggles when a thick manager persist in playing out of form players

  • 24 Slank // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    The top seven are likely to be but not necessarily in this order but near enough:

    1 Chelsea
    2 Man City
    3 Man Utd (to the disappointment of Kegs)
    4 Arsenal
    5 Liverpool
    6 Spurs
    7 Everton

    The next few are likely to be but not necessarily in this order:

    8 Newcastle
    9 Villa
    10 West Ham
    11 Southampton
    12 Norwich
    13 Swansea

    I think the recently promoted clubs are the most likely candidates for the drop. Other clubs who could be in the mix are Fulham, West Brom, and Sunderland. Almost every year a second season club flirts with relegation. This could be Southampton, Norwich or Swansea.

  • 25 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Mister Tuff

    You’re right. The biggest problem is communication. That failure also leads to miscommunication regarding certain points. I don’t believe it was ever announced that the club had to sell to buy, I’m pretty sure we said we did have money for the right players the whole time. But a dodgy journos fill the vacuum left by the club and rumours like that gain credence…sad…

  • 26 Beattie25 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Anyone else heard that Amalfitano has signed for Dijon?

  • 27 John Tudor // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    depends on how much waccy baccy kinnear smokes in the bogs

  • 28 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    John Tudor

    How does it? Chelsea and Liverpool had a better squad than us when they finished below us in 2011/12? Man City have the best squad now, should we just give then the trophy now? They probably did last year too but Fergie won with his brilliance.

  • 29 Indian Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    As BEATTIE 25 said

    Our squad in absolute terms may be stronger, but relative to other teams its very weak.

    Teams that used to be behind us, are at worst on the same footing now.

    Top 10 is the goal, Top 11-12 will be the goal next season.

  • 30 Slank // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Mister Tuff @ 15

    I agree that the South of France meeting was very odd in its timing. I can’t believe, at this 11th hour, that the only topic was who are we going to buy.

  • 31 Indian Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/mike-calvin-kinnears-running-newcastle-into-the-ground-S11363830568662?

  • 32 mindshaft // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Think we’ll finish anywhere between 7th and bottom dependent on players playing to potential, staying free of injuries and none of our players leaving in Jan ( can’t imagine they are that happy at the clubs lack of ambition on signings this summer )

  • 33 Mr Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Beattie25
    Relatively new to this blog (about 3 weeks)
    So not attempting a debate just interested in yours & everyone else views.
    Is you thinking we will struggle & get hammered based solely on quality of squad/lack of investment or also are your concerns based on the current manager?

  • 34 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Slank

    I’d put Everton in the 2nd group to be honest as I think they have about as much chance for top 6 as us.

    Saints, Norwich, Swansea may have strengthened but they still have massive weaknesses in their squads with championship level players as squad players or backups. A £12M striker doesn’t turn the rest of the squad into world beaters. We know that well organised promoted teams can do well in their first season or two, it’s after that that it gets tough.

    I also think that Villa could go either way. They’re relying a lot on Benteke and some talented youngsters.

  • 35 Toonfan8 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    we have solid squad, but we still had to manage ins of Douglas for free and Demba Ba on loan 1,5M…with these two we would be in excellent shape…

  • 36 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Indian Magpie

    Like I say, I don’t think that the signings for the likes of Norwich, Southampton and Swansea put them on the same footing at all. Have a look at their squad man for man and compare it to ours.

  • 37 gus3232 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    think pardew next team choice is huge,if jonas,tiote and taylor start i give up,should be the team most on here are saying,anita cabaye sissoko midfield 3,remy 1 side arfa the other,cisse through middle,its not rocket science…….then again its alan fckin pardew we talking about

  • 38 Slank // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Indian @ 29

    ‘Teams that used to be behind us, are at worst on the same footing now’.

    Being very pedantic that is Sunderland as the others got relegated !

  • 39 Unbelievable Tekkers // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    I think in between 10-12th. Yes we haven’t strengthened massively but we do have some things going in our favour. Less games, better fitness and hopefully less injuries, Remy. If we keep Benny, Cabaye and Remy fit then we’ll do ok and everbodys expectations are so low that it shouldn’t be too difficult to exceed them.

  • 40 Toonfan8 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    TDS—we should sell Tiote and bring Wanyama, exciting prospect….shame he went to Soton

  • 41 Felipe // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    @ndian 29

    Sorry mate but that’s just nonsense. Compared to this time last year we’ve added 6 first team players 4 of whom are pretty much given starters. Which other of our contemporaries have done significantly more to warrant your claim that teams that were behind us now are in front?

  • 42 Felipe // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    I think it will be 7th or 8th…

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    beattie
    agree thats why i predict 10th as i think management holds us back when compared to the like of swansea

    I was merely asking a different question, not saying are we stronger but who is stronger. Think we both covered it and have similar feelings for the season.

  • 44 Mr Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Kinnears arrogance & lack of modern football knowledge cost us Douglas & him not being interested in gettinga either Ba or Lukaku on loan is bizarre! I can’t help but feel his appointment is a lot more sinister than we think & that he actually did the job Ashley wanted him to do!

  • 45 Rotonda heights // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Mr Magpie

    JFK did exactly the job Ash wanted him to. JFK, Pardew and Wonga would not be employed or entertained at any other PL club.

    They would just be deemed totally inadequate and out of their depth by any right thinking modern forward thinking club.

  • 46 Markaccus // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    I was thinking between 8th and 12th, so i have had to vote 7 to 10 because my middle place is there. This is not really going to be a good reflection of our predictions

  • 47 Beattie25 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    mr magpie

    It’s combination of all the presented options and more.

    The team we have amassed is (on paper) a team that could smash many others.

    History suggests otherwise.

    We struggle to score goals, are seemingly unable to put games to bed and time and time again are outplayed and beaten convincingly.

    The squad seems to have a poor mindset and many seem to be confidence players. If one has an off day, they all do. There is a lack of leadership on and off the field and the manager always does his best to ensure that all confidence is sapped before playing bigger clubs (see Man City away).

    The team is always one step away from implosion. In my 21 years of following Newcastle I have never seen a team outplayed so regularly from weaker opposition.

    If Morcambe was a one off I could accept it but it is a regular occurrence.

    Did you know for example that in 100 PL games under Pardew we have conceded 3 goals or more in a match 22 times.

    22 times!

    That’s nearly a quarter of all games.

  • 48 hkToon // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Hi all, I’m a die hard NUFC fan in HK, long time reader in this blog.

    I think the argue point is not whether the squad is stronger or weaker than last year, the concern is everyone can identified that we offer nothing go forward in the Left Hand Side but still failed to sort it!

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    as for teams going down…i’d go for palace, sunderland and either hull or westbrom

  • 50 OhSholaAmeobi // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Clicked 7th to 10th to be optimistic, but i think somewhere around 13th. Only because Pardew has a bad habit of getting steadily worse at his clubs. At least the football hasn’t been as bad as it was this time last year so far.

    Striker was a necessity so that we didn’t have to rely on Shola. Winger was a possibility to improve on our crossing (although our best winger is out on loan). Young centre back/right back was a luxury and always unlikely. Attempting to sign a 20 year old keeper was stupendous – give Jak Alnwick a chance.

    Optimistic because we won’t get as many injuries touch wood, and overrall we are stronger than we started last season.

  • 51 Slank // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Mr Magpie @ 44

    A lot of fans on this blog didn’t rate Douglas. I’ve never seen him play myself.

    Ba would not have come back. He and or his agents made that quite clear. Lukaku was a surprise. I guess his second loan move surprised quite a few in the game. I thought he was the best striker at Chelsea. I also thought that Ba was better than Torres.

  • 52 orsie68 // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Ashley will be hoping for a nice little mid table finish and take another nice little lumper. He’s taken 11m last year and 18 m the year before. I’d like to think he’s getting to sell . Here’s hoping!!

  • 53 Phil K // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    The players aren’t the problem. Pardew, Carver, Stone et al – and the parasite Kinnear ARE

  • 54 Mr Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Rotonda heights
    So do you think hiring jfk was to make sure we bought no players in but cut the wage bill whilst also undermining pardew to force his resignation?
    Which right minded manager would want to come manage our great club with Ashley owning it & jfk as the dof!

  • 55 Mr Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Slank@51
    Seen Douglas play a couple of times & no he is not brilliant but then again neither is alderweild who we were linked with also. Douglas would have been a solid back up cb though.
    Ba was not willing to come back but my point was more that linear was there to make sure this didn’t happen. Bids for pea show our ambition but with the current ownership it appears to be a smokescreen to make us believe they are trying but amazingly they never seem to be able to actually “get someone over the line”!

  • 56 Widowmaker // Sep 4, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    I think, realistically, 13-15 is where we will finish despite we do seem to have a first team squad capable of a top ten finish. It’s quite simple, we lack depth and we are far from clicked as Benny has suggested.

    After all, we have played well only for 15mins in god knows how long.

  • 57 Mr Magpie // Sep 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Beattie25@47
    I agree mindset appears to be an issue as does confidence. Our lack of creativity is concerning but with a more attacking philosophy & formation i think we will give teams more problems. Our defense is at times worrying to say the least but if we were to keep possession better by playing a passing game as opposed to long balls & waiting to be attacked this would surely improve. I would also agree that this is down to a coaching issue but who would want to come in to replace pardew with the current situation at the club, any ideas?

  • 58 south coast toon // Sep 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    id first like to say well done to the 3per cent who have preddicted top six on surviving a drinking marathen to this time in the morning
    re post from last thread as i didnt get insuled enough

    this time last year did we expect to be near the bottom of the table……….no we all thought we would be up there….how many of us now think we will finish up there lol…. no we arent deluded most of us know we going to be down there towards the bottom. in comparison with alot of teams we have gone backwards and in comparision with them we are weaker
    we will have the ba saga all the way upto the next transfere window with cabye this year unsettling the squad a bit

    we still have ma and pardew and now kinear
    do we have more attacking options than last year……possibly weaker
    anymore creative players and goalscorers in midfield…. no
    is debuchy as good at defending as simpson……..not even through rose tinted glasses but he is better going forward
    sissoko looks great at times and maybe a plus
    are biggest loss is toite not refinding his form in the engine room
    how many goals did we think cisse could score the start of last season……anybody think hell get that amount this season no
    the only hope we have is that by some miracle they all find the form of the season before last and play for there places in the wourld cup, and some leaders step forward on the pitch. i dont think were stronger than this time last season atall but we could be with believe and confedence installed into them. how do you get aplayer like tiote back to his best, and cisse from hitting a ball from anywhere into the net to cant get a decent shot in. my belief was last season we would be fine on the back of the season before and i was wrong, my belief is not enough has changed from last season to improve us and we will be no better……….i really hope im wrong as usal though lol

  • 59 bishopblaize // Sep 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    I’m saying Top Six .. I’ll be pushing & supporting them all the way!
    We showed on Saturday from playing many different styles n formations AND was in Attack that we showed our Best Form so if that caan be maintained then we on it :)
    Keep the younger guys in the Cup Ties and leave the Seniors to concentrate on League will assist keeping injuries to the Low and End of Season on a Hight
    HWTL

  • 60 microbar // Sep 4, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Sorry but it looks like the bottom three for us.
    We are never blessed with any luck with injuries just look at the last four seasons, So thanks mike but you have really screwed up this time.

  • 61 kira13th // Sep 5, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    I voted 7-10 position.

    Hopefully, This January we will have 3-4 new good players.




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