Bafe Gomis has trained well at Lyon this week and according to manager both Gomis and Briand “are candidates for the team.” “There is no problem, they worked well.” Both players rejoined the first team group after being forced to train with the reserves earlier because both had been expected to leave Lyon in the summer, but now both could play against Rennes.
Bafe Gomis – price cut in half in January
And with Bafe Gomis’ contract having just one year to run, he will be available at a cut price in January, but whether Gomis has soured on Newcastle, after being asked to take a wage cut, is not known.
And Alan Pardew is not saying too much on it either, but there is news that Roma are ready to bid for Gomis in the January transfer window, and Fiorentina are also said to be interested.
Gomis will not extend his contract at Lyon and so he will either leave in January for say £3M or less, or leave as a free agent next summer when Lyon will get nothing for him.
The fee Newcastle agreed with Lyon was €8M (£6.8) with €2M (£1.7M)in potential future payment based on performance, so Gomis price will have more than halved in January.
Roma Sporting Director Walter Sabatini is equivalent to Newcastle’s Director of Football Joe Kinnear, and is said to be keen on Gomis, especially he will be available at a cut price.
Newcastle like cut-price deals but with the embarrassment of Newcastle having to ask Gomis to take a wage cut, after everything had been agreed with Lyon and the player, we wonder what Gomis now thinks about coming to Newcastle – and maybe his wages are still a problem for the Magpies.
But it’s still possible, and if Newcastle are really keen we would expect a certain Joe Kinnear to be trying to get a deal done right now, so it can be executed in early January.
But maybe not. 🙁
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193 comments so far
DevonMag
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Comment #1I’m traveling up to Villa this Saturday for my first match of the season, and was over the moon about our current injury situation essentially forcing Pardew’s hand in picking an exciting, attacking line up. I was expecting something like this:
Krul
Debuchy–Colo–MYM–Santon
Ben Arfa-Anita-Sissoko-Marvaux
———–Cisse–Remy———-
With Cabaye coming on second half for Anita, and Gouffran in the mix from the bench, too. Having a fully fit squad is actually BAD news! So help me god, if Pardew takes all the players who have WORKED their way into the team with decent performances out for the old guard and plays a team like this:
Krul
Debuchy–Colo–Taylor–Santon
Ben Arfa–Tiote–Cabaye–Jonas
———-Cisse–Shola————
I will be so, SO angry! Don’t do it Pardew! Don’t you dare do it!
cyprus
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Comment #2Ed, I must admit that I detect a shift in your attitude… You were all praise for the ’5 year plan’, ‘stability’ etc. Now you seem to have moved into the anti-Ashley camp. No problem with me, but probably best to strike a balance? Next thing we know you’ll be criticizing your hero: AP – See more at: http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/09/13/surprising-news-on-newcastles-financial-dealings/comment-page-1/#comment-1155914
Transfer Sage
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Comment #3devon
Well thats the question. The team selection this week will be reflective of our season I feel.
Without saylor, tiote and jonas we have kept 2 clean sheets and picked up 4 points in two games. There is no reason for them to walk back in, even if the manager thinks they are better he should stick with a winning team.
Shola started against fulham and although remy was the one who made a big difference to our style i could forgive him for starting shola as he started in the winning team.
But no to Jonas, Tiote and Taylor who weren’t involved.
jeff
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Comment #4‘nother bullsh*t article
ArtyH
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Comment #5The only chance we have to secure Gomis in the new year is to sack the JOKE and have someone else do the negotiating, but sadly this will not happen. The JOKE has been quiet of late, I wonder why??? I would have liked to see Keegan as DOF but there is no chance of that after he walked last time due to Ashley’s underhanded work.
jokinoot
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Comment #6Can’t see his wage demands being any different even if they got him free still wouldn’t pay
roy
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Comment #7I hope they avoid Gomis he comes across as a mercenary.
jokinoot
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Comment #8Where is fatman and dobbin anyway conspicuous by their absence must be plotting January’s debacle
Toon-Prodigy
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Comment #9Croftus,
Spot on, exactly.
We have been conned all summer.
With this hold up catch up game Ashley plays season after season we will always be weaker than teams building around us. This is the second summer off the trot now, It’s obvious what his plan is. If we get any money in January or on the road to January we will see a signing.
Problem with this is there is zero ambition and no excitement in it at all. We crave on excitement.
By January, once again our season will be wrote off if injuries occur just like last season. It’s all so dim and mediocre. Not good enough for NUFC and this fanbase.
BandB
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Comment #10Ibizatoon,
You have been asking a question recently that no-one has seriously tried to answer and you yourself have kept at a question.
Why should Ashley sell the club?
Until just a few days ago it was possible to believe that the “self-sustaining” model was what Ashley was aiming for.
But the statements from the club, a bit of info gleaned from SD and the help of Blackley regarding the loan, I found myself asking your question.
Why should he sell?
If Ashley is following the SD model of concentrating on gross margins, then perhaps he has figured that he can run NUFC at a very considerable profit in the near future.
Crushing down on costs and minimal investment in the product has a familiar ring to it, does it not?
Our on-the-field-product would be straight out of the SD manual, slowly finding a level of cheap and cheerlessness that would be tat passing itself off as a brand name. All he needs to do is stay in the division. Which adds a nice casino thrill to the mix.
Maybe the future was right before us all the time?
So why should he sell?
Quasimodo's tailor
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Comment #11Jeff. Perhaps you could share some of your own pearls of wisdom with us readers What topics would you like to flow from Ed’s fingertips?
JackButler
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Comment #12jeff – ‘nother bullsh*t comment
Ibizatoon
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Comment #13BandB…For me, it’s a plausible scenario.
I do have doubts about how sustainable it is however, but it all comes down to what those margins need to be.
If Ashley thinks that he can spend a minimal amount and stay in the league, considering the other 19 teams will likely be spending the majority of the new found riches in the league, then I imagine he will do just that. Whether that will catch up with him is anyones guess. We do however know that he is willing to throw a bit more money at it, if things are looking bad.
So why not? At least for the foreseeable future.
The reason I raised the question is not that I think it’s the most likely scenario, but it is possible imo, so at a loss to understand why some think that once he has found a way to repay what he considers his loan (dancing my way round that issue this time) that he will suddenly leave. Surely it just makes the whole situation more appealing as he has even less money tied up in the club?
On the other hand…if owning Newcastle United is no longer attractive for him anymore, say the fans were driving him nuts, maybe at that time he would be able to find a realistic buyer, as his investment in the club would have reduced.
If, but, maybe…I might work on a song for Ashley.
JackButler
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Comment #14“They all expected a marquee signing, although I have to say a marquee signing would have taken us into our overdraft facility.”
Damn, if only we had a billionaire owner 🙁
BandB
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Comment #15Ibiza,
How about “Under My Thumb?”
Pardew is cute though. “I don’t want to say anything more about that.”
He means; “I’ve got a gun in my back”
Wiz
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Comment #16Ed is putting the boot into Joe Kinnear all the time for his evident failings as a director of f****all. The boot certainly needs to be put into such a vainglorious and ineffective individual. The point I would make is that it is not Kinnear’s fault he is ineffective. If Ashley won’t spend the cash, there is nothing he can do about it. More annoyingly, Pardew is saying we now have to give him ten games to judge accurately on how he is doing. He said two not so long ago. He is a decent manager, as I keep saying, but he does himself no favours. Meanwhile the best news of the day is the Ashley f off version of the Wonga shirt. Brilliant. I wonder how you get hold of one?
Transfer Sage
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Comment #17jack
or if only we could use the overdraft…oh no wait, we could have done
Ibizatoon
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Comment #18BandB…Not original, but certainly accurate.
You mean Pardew isn’t just looking out for our best interests? It’s been a stressful window and all 🙂
roy
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Comment #19Remy is a decent enough signing and big Moussa wants he gets into gear will frighten a few teams. I still think we have a decent enough team to compete for a the top seven.
Wiz
Sep 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Comment #20BandB – no, when he says he doesn’t want to say any more about that, what he means is that he can’t say anything more about that, because it is clearly going to be nonsense. And fine, if Gomis is cheaper in January, great, but we still won’t be able to pay his wages, because they would make him out of line with the other cheapo strivers in our dressing room.
BandB
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Comment #21Wiz,
I agree. He is saying; “That’s the statement. Believe it if you like, but don’t ask me to expand on it.”
I suspect Ed will raise the Gomis issue more often in a week than Kinnear will think of him between now and Christmas.
Ciaran
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Comment #22I see a lot of sense in the question “Why should Ashley sell the club?” He can keep costs low, profits high, and as long as we stay in the league we’ll continue making him a considerable profit.
Perhaps this is all part of his master plan, and a major factor of that plan is that the Newcastle United fans will do what they’ve always done – Nothing. He is banking on us doing nothing. He is banking on us saying nothing. He is banking on us blindly trudging into St James’ Park while he, to use BandB’s expression, give us tat passing off as a brand name.
Well, are you going to do what Ashley expects you are going to do? Or are you going to make this your voice heard that this method of ownership is not what we, the fans want, and that if he is intent on following this trail of thought, that we will fight him every step of the way and make it incredibly uncomfortable for him.
Once more, the choice, NUFC fans, is yours.
toon kk
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Comment #23Roy
Wishful thinking! Top seven will be very tough and that’s with no injuries.
Ciaran
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Comment #24Roy
Funny enough, Olivier Bernard thinks we can finish top 7. I wrote an article about how ludicrous that prediction. I’d go into it in more detail but you can just read it for yourself….
I’m not very subtle am I? haha
Ciaran
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Comment #25*how ludicrous that prediction is…
I swear, my articles aren’t as sloppily written as my comments!
Ibizatoon
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Comment #26Ciaran…It’s certainly a point worth considering for those adopting the “let’s wait and see” attitude.
I’m just not sure where this faith in his intentions is coming from these days. There are some arguably good things he has done, but none of them have been solely in the best interest of NUFC, so can they be considered as reasons to have faith? I no longer think so.
I just don’t see how or why we should just wait and hope he does the right thing anymore. Doesn’t mean we should all go crazy and lose sight of any rationality, but the current method is becoming insane. Somethings gotta give.
fatman
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM
Comment #27What i am thinking of doing is boycott the Leeds game and donate the money to the Bobby Robson trust, as much as it will kill me not to go doing nothing is just setting us up for the next fall. a few friends are promising to follow suit and yes i do agree with the arguments from the other side and not boycott, if it we donate the ticket money to bobby when it reaches a decent level the media will pick up on it, and the players will respond well to it as you can leave a message why you give the donation, and turn a negative into a positive. think i will do it for the fa cup too mind with the plonker of a manager it probably will not mean missing many games.
bollance
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Comment #28If it is true that we had no cash in the bank I think it is fair enough we only brought in Remy. We have a stronger squad plus less matches.
My opinion is we need to turnover more players and replace them with players with potential. Realistically we have two players who could come through in dummet and Sammy but neither have played and excelled at championship level, the tier below the premiership. That is what they should do before thinking they are good enough for the Prem.
Too many have jumped on the bandwagon calling for more players. We needed one or two strikers, we got one. Not the end of the world.
We have the players an potential to play an exciting brand of football. But we need confidence to execute it. The manager knows this. He can’t just set up 4-3-3 and expect us to demolish any team in front of us. With the attacking power we have I hope we get to that level of confidence sooner rather than later.
The sad thing is people on here are siding with the media against the ownership. Plus they are repeating what the trolls used to say on here. Word for word, how embarrassing.
Ciaran
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Comment #29Ibiza
There, I think, you’ve hit the nail on the head. Any decisions or actions that some people as using as reasons to defend Ashley have not been in the sole best interest of the club. There has always been some form of financial gain or benefit for him as well. Add to that, the ludicrous decisions he has taken that have been to the detriment of the team, but once more have been for his financial benefit.
Those who have been defending Mike Ashley are either playing devil’s advocate to temper the one sided discussions, are PR reps for Mike Ashley, or are simply on the wind up. (I’m not going to factor in an added category of them being idiots, they don’t like that)
I just wonder how much the Geordie public, and the wider NUFC fan base, will take. There is a growing sense of discontent and it is gathering pace and momentum. There is more media coverage, former players are becoming more vocal in their criticism. Club legends are pleading with Ashley to change his approach. This season will see a massive torrent of protests, but it remains to be seen if they will have any impact.
roy
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Comment #30Everyone keeps hairpin on about all these mythical injuries. The whole team isn’t going to get injured.
toon kk
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM
Comment #31Imo confidence will play a massive part this season. If Remy starts knocking them in a top half is possibly if not and injuries set in we’ll be in a dog fight again.
check the toastie
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Comment #32If we play good football and sit high in the league everything else is irrelevent.
As irrelevent as Ciaran trying to become the new oracle in all things NUFC, Bellend 🙂
PARDEW OUT
Pokat
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Comment #33jeff no matter how bad Eds articles may be, fr sure your comments are even poorer, you have no point at all do you. There are other blogs your highbrow reasoning may be tailored for, just go there and stop torturing yourself. And us. Unless jeff is also Ciaran/Ruddy M, now there’s a conspiracy theory for you ha ha ha 🙂
On this Gomis guy, look, its over, lets all move on nothing to see people nothing at all to see.
Good to see some are waking up to the smell of coffee and spin. Ashley is a soulless percentage man, well not entirely without feeling he despises the fans thats for sure, wont even bow down to speaking. Yes, he is making us cruise along at half speed, slow and steady makes the £’s roll in at a nice pace and no risk of rolling over.. Death or a change in financials are the only things that can knock this tanker off course.
I am beginning to think Pardew nearly got sacked for getting us into europe followed by near relegation.
toon kk
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Comment #34Roy
No one saying the whole team will be injured, but if our better player’s are we’ll really struggle. Our back up player’s are decent but aren’t strong enough. You saw that last season.
Transfer Sage
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Comment #35ciaramn
The good news is we do not have injury prone forwards which is a big help as we will need goals and thats the area we are short.
cisse and gouffran dont miss games and neither does remy (last season playing 26 was his lowest in the previous 5 years)
I don’t think we will gte 7th but i don’t think we’ll be miles off it either….be a long long way from 6th though
roy
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Comment #36That could be said about all the teams outside the top five toon kk
fatman
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Comment #37roy
The thing is the hole team does not need to get injured Krul, remy, & cisse would just abut do the trick.
bollance
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Comment #38Transfer
The jury is still out on Remy. He has missed a lot of games in his career. That is maybe why we only have him on loan so we take a really good look at him and protect our potential future investment because £8m is a lot for us
WWSBRD
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Comment #39Top 6, 7 or 8? Hmmm reckon those touts will be shown up at the end of the season
Top 10 will be a struggle
Transfer Sage
Sep 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Comment #40fatman
same could be said of others though
swansea – michu, bony, williams
everton – baines, lukaku, jelevic
villa – benteke, weinman, vlar
Most teams are like this. Even at the top, take 3 main players from man utd and they will struggle (wont be relegated but will underperform and wont win the league).