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Newcastle Have Done Surprisingly Well – So Far

10:51 am, Sunday, September 15th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 257 Comments

If anybody had told us after the Manchester City game that after four game played we would be level on points with the two Manchester clubs and Chelsea, we would have asked them what they had been smoking.

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Vurnon Anita had another solid game yesterday

But that’s the current situation,  after Manchester City dropped two points at Stoke yesterday, and Chelsea suffered their first defeat at Everton.

And suddenly Newcastle are in the upper half of the table and we even looked a good attacking side yesterday, and were solid at the back, although Tim Krul is not at his best at the moment.

Here’s what Alan Pardew said in the local press today:

“The most important thing at our football club is the team. They carry the flag, they carry the banner. For the first time today since Demba Ba left, we carried an attacking threat a Newcastle team should have.”

“Loic Remy has boosted that. I think it puts the opposition on the back foot a bit, and that makes a big different to how you control the game.”  “We got more players into the box today.”

“Hatem got the simplest goal he will ever score because he got into the box and that’s something we’ve encouraged him to do.”  “I thought we controlled the first-half. “

“We came under pressure in the second, but we played really well.”  “Hatem Ben Arfa was   brilliant. I thought some of the reaction two weeks ago was over the top, but it can’t be over the top this week.”

“When you are a manager of Newcastle, and you talk about the Europa League and injuries, it sounds like rotten excuses, but we had our best players available today,  and anyone who was at the game would say when that happens we look a good team.”

“If we can keep them all fit then we can have a good season.”

Of course we cannot get carried away, but two successive league wins is always good, and it certainly  gives out players that extra confidence.

And it should be a good game on Saturday against newly promoted Hull City, and we hope we get a good turn our to cheer on our players.

Every league game is tough, whoever we are playing, and the last time we met Hull at St. James’ Park was the first game after Kevin Keegan had left the club in early September of 2008.

And we surprisingly lost that game 2-1, and Danny Guthrie was sent off in stoppage time as he kicked out at a Hull player in sheer frustration.

And our new signing at the time, Xisco, made his debut for the club and scored the Newcastle goal, and we all know what happened that season, which turned out to be an absolute disaster for the club.

But we are back with the big boys now, and there’s even some evidence we may be able to give the top sides a game this season.

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257 responses so far ↓

  • 1 lesh // Sep 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    This is a good expose of Arsenal’s approach to signing players:

    Now that w’ve near exploited France to the point of exhaustion, Ashley could well seriously consider Arsenal’s strategy.

    Maybe Ashley could send Kinnear to explore that market and come back only when he’s got quality signings to the stage of their pre-signing medicals!

  • 2 Novocastrian66 // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Very quiet on here today. If we got beat yesterday I would imagine the boycott brigade would be out in force.

  • 3 lesh // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Novocastrian66…. Of course it’s quiet today.

    Some fans’ll be savouring yesterdays performance and others’ll be scratching around trying to find something negative to post!

  • 4 Jamiemac // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Very pleasing start to the season. Perhaps the most pleasing aspect is the way we have played the ball on the ground every game.

  • 5 Spuggy // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    JK gets a lot of abuse and deserves some of it for his ridiculous statement on radio and lack of transfer activity.

    However, he did bring in remy and I feel he’s gonna make a big difference to our attacking play.

    If we can get to Xmas and add a couple then it’s onward and upward. But nufc’s softly softly catchy monkey transfer policy is so frustrating at times, although no one could argue with the financial strength we are now in.

  • 6 Spuggy // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    A player like errikson would be immense – another creative spark in addition to HBA and a decent powerful striker like Benteke and we’d be immense!

  • 7 Offkey // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    We have played it on the ground for two games….not all season.

  • 8 low fell mag // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Ibizatoon, agree with you on most things ,but some I don’t.
    Im quite happy with Ashley,he has dropped some clangers though.
    But the main issue is ,you don’t bite the hand that feeds you .What I mean by that is ,Nobody and I mean nobody wants to buy our club,so until some Mega rich Arabian or Russian comes forward with loads of Wonga, why P@ss off the man who is keeping our club a float.
    It also amazes me how the likes of JFA complain that Ashley doesn’t slash the cash ,when he doesn’t put a penny into the club. He would probably need a Sat Nav to get to ST James Park

  • 9 mondziu // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    JFK did bring in Remy, but we identified him as a target before. We did not bring him then, because the player changed his mind, not because we couldn’t find agreement. So I can’t give too much credit to Joe for this one.

  • 10 doonundertoon // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    i wish, for once, in a single pardew press conference, he would just say “we played well/bad, now we are just focusing on the next game” thats it.. he doesnt need to go about spouting shit like he does in interviews as it gives the media fodder for when shit starts to go bad..

    all he ever seems to do is cover for his failings, even if we didnt fail in the match the conferance is for, you look at a jurgen klopp or guardiola interviews, they never ever make excuses or talk up there teams to the extent pardew does, pardew seem to always try to go into detail as to why we are winning, and why we werent winning before, when in reality all he has to say is “i think we played well today, now we are focussing on the next game”

    its like he craves the media spotlight or something and it shits me to tears, im happy with the win, and even more happy that he played 4-3-3, but having perdew as the face and head of this football club will always make my skin crawl, even when he is doing the right thing on the field.

  • 11 Spuggy // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    I’m extremely worried about Cisse. He seems completely bereft of confidence and his touch and control has got worse not better.

    He desperately needs a goal. Big question is do you drop him and put remy up front with goofy and HBA either side. I’d play Cisse at home for hull. If he still doesn’t perform I’d drop him for a few games.

  • 12 juanpeterbeardsley // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Nice positive feel this morning AP finally played the team everyone wanted.Looks like the Morecambe game was a watershed for Debuchy looking way more assured now and Yanga did very well with Bentecke.Three clean sheets is no fluke even if Krul flapped a couple of times.
    I cant imagine we will hear anything from JFK appears to have been gagged.Hope it stays like that !

  • 13 JP...from The Rock // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Loved the match yesterday, still buzzing! 😀

    We have a good first 11 with one or 2 good subs. We need only a few more to become a top top team. We’re so close to getting there. Hopefully if we keep this up and sign in one or two in January come summer we will be back in the top 8 or perhaps top 6.

  • 14 Hatem's better than Messi // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    I’d love to see a play-off system brought into the EPL.

    Top 8 play-off, it would be exciting and make the league competitive as most mid-table teams would fancy their chances of finishing 8th.

    Then one game play-offs with higher ranked team having home advantage.

    At the moment thinking of finishing mid-table forever is depressing.
    All American leagues use this and it is very exciting.

  • 15 JP...from The Rock // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Hatem’s better than Messi – That’s a good idea. Though I doubt we’ll be mid table forever.

  • 16 low fell mag // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    What a joy, to come on the blog this morning..
    Nothjng negative ,
    All the dourmongers went back into the woodwork and crawled under their rocks in Pennywell !

  • 17 nico // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Hatem’s better than Messi


  • 18 Williamsonsuks // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Anyone have a link for yesterdays game?

  • 19 nico // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    We played really well yesterday and looked dangerous throughout. Cisse needs to regain that goal form he had though as if he doesn’t score he brings little. Lakaku would have been a great player for us to play up top.

  • 20 Hatem's better than Messi // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:35 AM


    It’s not a fairly balanced league any more.
    It would be so much more exciting and for more fans and their teams.

  • 21 south coast toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    what a difference a couple of games make, and what a change on the pitch,feel a bit embarresed at some of my rants about not signing anyone and offering no threat going forward wow we can get better as soon as cisse finds form and cabs and sissoko hit form too, we just need to carry on like that now and attack teams, same line up for hull get at em striaght away and score a few and then do everything we can to get cisse to score, our players played how they should be playin yesterday and most can still play better keeping toite and guti on the bench with taylor will be sure to get them all fired up the next time they can get on the pitch… never thought id be sayin this this season but we looked good… sorry i ever doubted them …we still need some more attack mined players in jan…lets hope

  • 22 Hatem's better than Messi // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    We’re a couple of strikers light and desperately need a quality CB to challenge Colo & Mbiwa. Douglas would have been great cheers JFK.

    An injury to Remy and we’re screwed as we’re using Shola either as a starter or sub. Back to toothless 4231.

  • 23 theartfuldodger // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    A lot many posters have said we have a good squad.

    Issues were
    1. Pardews selection and defensive mentality.
    2. Squad not good enough to cover injuries.

    Pardew has done much better now. He is good at managing and protecting players and team.

    Squad can handle only few injuries – We have just Marveaux,Gouff who can come in if one of the midfielders or strikers are injured. That is what people complain about – lack of cover.

    Other than that, we are not good at anything other than 4 3 3. So our gameplan and team is no secret and leaves Pardew with few options.

    Thats where progress is needed – More Quality in squad to cover and Wingers who give a different dimension. Plus another BenArfa esqe player.
    We lost the opportunity to do that 1-2 players at a time.

    Ofcourse Im happy with the performance and results. But if were 6th at some time and loose out for above reasons then it wont be good.

  • 24 bollance // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    We play the ball on the ground when we play it forward. When it goes backward to Krul, that is when it is hoofed forwards. Maybe villa didn’t press us high enough up the pitch giving us more time to make forward passes. This could have been because of our attacking lineup.

    Confidence in the team means we can play more balls forward knowing it will stick. That is probably why we were interested in Gomis who is very good at playing with his back to goal and bringing others into the game. But gomis is not the prolific striker we need in the club. The problem is to buy a that type of player who can score will cost £20m plus.

  • 25 wolfshead@toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM


    i read your earlier post about jfk are you saying he didnt get any players in cos he was too busy mediating between john kerry and sergei lavrov? 🙂

  • 26 Hatem's better than Messi // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    They had a learn from our mistakes meeting in May/June and agreeed the lack of summer signings was a huge mistake.
    Only to repeat the same mistake. What are we supposed to think of the club?

    Run by a bunch of idiots was my conclusion.

  • 27 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:54 AM


    I agree with you that Pardew is just full of Crap !

    He should just say something like :

    “We played well, and fought hard for the three ponits and now we must focus on the next game “!

    No-one was expecting us to be where we are, with such a good start to the season?

    Just imagine what we would have done if Cabaye had,nt come with all that shite for the first three games?

    Plus if we had signed the Striker and the strong Centre back we were all screaming for while the Window was still open?

    If we get too many Injuries ina few months we will be right in the shit again?

  • 28 Rainrix // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I’d hope that if we continued with 4 – 3 – 3 cisse would start to get a lot more goals. Yesterday was the 1st time really this season i remember cisse getting a couple of decent oppertunities. He’s obviously lacking confidence but if we persist with 433 as we know is a formation that suits cisse and he should start scoring again.

    Gouffran does make it difficult however. This season you’d have to say he deserves to start over cisse as he’s been excellent coming off the bench.

  • 29 bollance // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Plus as cabaye said we played a faster game with 2-3 touches. It makes a difference. This is the problem with tiote. He holds onto the ball too long and generally plays backward. I think his confidence is shot. In the past he played a quicker game. Lets hope he can return to his glory because he could be a big player for this season. £50k per week is a lot to sit on the bench too.

  • 30 wolfshead@toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    south coast

    well at least your honest so fair play it would be nice if the haters came on and apologised for the bile that they have been spewing out for the past few months 🙂

  • 31 woolerbill // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    We are still here and will stay till Pardew and Co leave. We played football today not his usual long ball, defend one goal. We have been proved correct and he has changed, lets hope for good.

  • 32 bollance // Sep 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Part of JK’s job is to bridge the game between development squad and 1st team. He needs to be busting his balls to get more development squad players out on loan. They are rotting in the u21’s. plus it means more u18 can move up a level into the u21 squad.

    This will set us up nicely for after Xmas when we have injuries plus next season. Dummet this year being the prime example of how a loan deal can get a player close to the 1st team pool

  • 33 Rainrix // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Also it looks like fayes work is paying off. Towards the end of the game we still looked fast and strong, especially sissoko what a tank that lad is. 🙂

  • 34 Rooster // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM


    Sorry about the capitals.My emotions are still running high on the issue.

  • 35 Graeme // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Hey, it could be a hell of a lot worse – just look at the sad neighbours eh!!

    Rock bottom of the League, Manager sent off to the stands, team has zero confidence, playing shite football as well!!

    See, Sundays can look great!! lol

  • 36 derekm // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Villa simply could’nt match the quality and workrate of our midfield four – they spent long periods passing to each other simply because they could’nt find anyone free in our half. Sissoko is some player, Cabaye enjoyed a free role behind the front two and Anita covered enormous amounts of space. We have to play through midfield as Cisse simply can’t compete with aerial deliveries against even an average premier league centre half so it actually suits us to play on the deck.Really enjoyed it yesterday for the first time in ages!

  • 37 yo-yo // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    south coast

    Don’t be fooled – a couple of good results don’t make a season.

    I’m disappointed with how easily the total lack of ambition shown by the club has been accepted by many fans. Pardew is forced to constantly apologise or make excuses because he is at the sharp end.

    HIs point about lack of attacking options for a 4-3-3 since Ba left should echo very loudly.

    I’m not a revolutionary like Beattie or complacent like Bills-son but Mashley has failed us as supporters though I’m sure he is doing very nicely thank you. What supporters want from any owner is commitment. We do not have that just because Benny is on good form right now and we have got a couple of wins.

  • 38 nico // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Hatem’s better than Messi

    That’s what the 2 Cups competitions are for.

    The league is the league. Its been that way for over 100 years. The league has always had better teams and worse teams. You surely can’t disagree that the league is now more interesting and competitive now than it has been in years. There are 6 teams competing for the top 3 or 4 places.

  • 39 SharpEnough23 // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Great performance yesterday, I actually enjoyed the match for a change 🙂

    I still think we should utilize the loan market and get a forward in. zaha from united would be good until January

  • 40 bollance // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    It is great to see those down the road rock bottom. But they need to survive, only just again so we can beat them in the derby next season, right??

  • 41 scout // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Pardew out

    Had to get that in because you lot seem to think its a 4 game season.
    Big brush painting over the cracks. So far so good, we could be Sunderland after all

  • 42 bollance // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM


    There will be no perminant deal in bringing Zaha to newc. Therefore it is a non starter. Providing Remy stays out of prison I predict we will secure him at Xmas or at end of the season. Maybe we have a first refusal or there is another buyout clause. I predict first refusal just in case a bigger team comes in

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Low Fell mug,
    Your ignorance astounds me, I am a club member, I have until recently bought club merchandise and attend about 10-12 games a season, my most recent being Stevie Harpers testimonial, I think I have every right to ask the clubs owner to show more ambition and splash the cash as you would say !

  • 44 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Pardew has finally made some changes that many of us on here have been asking for since the 5th place finish.

    Gone back to 4-3-3
    Kept Anita in the team
    Realised we need to attack more

    If he keeps this up then fair play, but if Tiote or Gutierrez get in that current 11 then I will lose respect for Pardew all over again .

    Many people think the Pardew bashers wanted us to win 5-0 every game when in reality all we wanted were performances like yesterday, which we are more than capable of when playing the right formation and players and having an attacking mind-set.

  • 45 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    “The most important thing at our football club is the team”

    Really Mr. Pardew???

  • 46 Rooster // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Benny, is becoming a bit of a one man team at the moment, take him out the equation and we are still struggling, every game he has been the game changer.

    Cisse on the other hand is showing nothing at all, nothing with or without the ball.

    AP is not strong enough to drop him, hes been off the boil far to long. Remy and Gouffy would be a better partnership, Cisse is just a terrible strike partner full stop.

    Campbell could not possibly do any worse than Cisse but AP has dropped him out of the picture after bigging him up, he has knocked the lads confidence in my opinion, I would play him over Shola n Cisee all day, he wont of course, AP hasn’t the bottle to do it.

    Cisse is one of the worst players to watch I can remember, he has scored great goals but teamwork and as a partner up front he is truly awful, his place should not be guaranteed, but Pardew is giving him that, sulk or not Cisse but your form is not good enough we are virtually playing with ten men. am I being harsh, I don’t think so ,nobody should be an automatic.

  • 47 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Jail – afternoon – do not let the goadings of the mad greengrocer from the Heed (aka turnip Heed) get to you. He would be better employed getting his fruit and veg hand cart ready with next weeks’ produce.
    He and bills are crowing like a couple of cockrels who have just been allowed into the hen run – they should perhaps delay their “all is well at the bottom of the garden”spoutings a bit. One decent display yesterday does not mean all our problems have gone away.

  • 48 Toonfan8 // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    in january we should go for one striker Demba Ba/Gomis, on back Skrtel/Richards…and we should be really good…attacking maybe top 6….

  • 49 micbush // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Are people honestly complaining about Pardew’s post match comments?
    Managers/footballers get battered all the time for coming out with banal, cliche ridden interviews.

    Some people just want something to complain about, even when we win. It’s pathetic.

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    Good afternoon, he can call me a muppet or a mackem all he likes because then it is for others to judge whether or not they think I am, but when he puts out statements that make it sound like I have said them myself like I have never put money into the club I have to let him and others that are new to the blog know that his slander isn’t true.

  • 51 scout // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    It’s a couple of wins some very short memories, if Pardew turns it around then fair play. But only time will tell.

  • 52 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM


    you are not allowed to say anything like that mate, you have to join in with the Pardew/Kinnear love in or get slaughtered

  • 53 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    We have exactly the amount of points a team with our ambition should have gained albeit the wrong way round ,beating W Ham and Fulham at home and a draw aginst Villa, imo anything less would have been short of disaster.

  • 54 roy // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    What is there to be suprised about? We have a squad full of internationals the midfield is as good as any outside the top four we have competition up front. What was most pleasing is the team is moving the ball through midfield instead of hoofing it over them. Sissoko and Anita completely controlled the midfield yesterday which nullified Villa as an attacking force.

  • 55 Spuggy // Sep 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    If Cabaye and Cisse can get back to there best and everyone can stay for then were a top 8 team, easily.

    However injuries will strike.

  • 56 Harley // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    There’s a few people getting carried away today. Not with the performance which was excellent but with the ownership of the club.

    Lets not forget that one or two injuries to key players and we are really struggling.

    They should’ve invested in the summer on a couple of players to help boost the squad.

    By the looks of things, the players are starting to really gel and the signs are we could have a decent season. But Ashley could’ve ruined all of this by not spending a measly 10 million or so.

  • 57 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    I missed the game yesterday, as it wasn’t mean sown out here, so listened to the commentary via talksport, albeit intermittently due to the crappy internet. Sounded like we did okay, especially in the first half. Pards picked the exact team I would class as the best we could field as well.

    According to a few reports I’ve read the midfield trio that I have been banging on about did well, so all in all a pleasing game.

    However, had Villa been able to take several of the chances which sounded harder to miss on radio, then we wouldn’t be so cheerful.

    We are working on very fine margins here. A couple of chances taken yesterday by Villa, a couple of injuries to our first team and we are in trouble. And that is why people angry at the poor transfer window can still feel justified. 7 points is what was required from what wasn’t an overly difficult start.

    Still, we won, let’s enjoy it. I had us down for 10 points from the first 5 games, and we are more than capable of doing that against Hull!

  • 58 ToonDownSouth // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    One very good performance and everyone’s talking like we’ve been playing like that all year haha!

    It’s simple – that’s what happens when we play players on form and in their right positions.

    And anyone who thinks Ashley’s beyond fault after one win, there is no way in hell that we’ll avoid injuries all year. Every time HBA went to ground I was terrified!

  • 59 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Wasn’t mean sown?? No idea hoa=w I managed that nonsense! Should read “wasn’t being shown”

  • 60 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Okay, I give up, apparently I can’t type today! I blame not drinking in September!

  • 61 south coast toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    yo yo
    dont get me wrong i still long for more strikers and attacking flair players and wish ashley would shed some dosh, just not too happy for getting so down on the team and players that im surposed to surrport, they are putting in decent shifts now and its not there fault we havent brought enough players in, alls im saying is we all need to wipe our eyes and get behind the team now and push them on, i live in dorset and there aint many newcastle fans down here so you r the brunt of alot of abuse and have found myself ageeing with negative comments as it wears you down, we all need to cheer them on now walste there all fit and winning………you wait till we loose…….lol

  • 62 clinath@ed // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    On the Cisse subject, didn’t see the game but the highlights showed up one incident that bothered me….his lack of celebration when Gouffron scored. When a player cat enjoy a teammates moment of joy, I get worried about his commitment.

  • 63 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    We played really well to be fair, dominated the first half where Remy and HBA terrified the Villa boys and Anita and Sissoko bossed the midfield area between them..

    Second half was far more even but the goal we conceded was down to Krul flapping like a wounded crow at the ball.

    All in all it was a good performance with a good result

  • 64 00chambersl09 // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Jail I completely understand your hatred of Ashley and kinnear but why pardew? Surely he gets judged on getting results on the pitch which so for this season fair play to him he is? And for people saying we’ve only played football on the deck past few games might want to go check the stats for long balls per game as we were the lowest on % long ball team in the prem followed by arsenal first 2 games

  • 65 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Cheers, that’s what it sounded like. I missed what happened for their goal and our second as the internet provider decided to fail at both of those moments.

    Good to know we continued in the same way as we played in the last 15 against Fulham. Really pleased to see Pards go with Anita, Sissoko and Cabaye, that is an excellent blend of power technical ability and intelligence in the midfield, and will get better the more the trio get to play together.

    Tiote on the bench may be the signs of what I suspected, that Pardew’s desire to pick him and Jonas last season was because we were struggling and he wanted to rely on the Premier league experience. Misguided in my view, but understandable.

    Anyway, fingers crossed Ms Downey can do her job well, as injuries are still a big danger to a threadbare squad.

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM


    i think cisse expected goofy to square it to him or maybe he knows Goofy could take his shirt

  • 67 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM


    You have shown yourself up for what you are. Disingenuous, not standing by his word, and to make matters worse you have actually solidified your defence of Ashley following one decent away game!

    Pardew, not Ashley, deserves the credit for yesterday’s performance. Yesterday may actually be an indication of what Pardew might be able to do with a competitive squad to choose from – but Ashley won’t give him that will he?

    I’m not defending Pardew by any stretch of the imagination because we can do much better than him as a manager, but he is undermined every transfer window, and like the sad sap he is, he tries and defend Mike Ashley reason’s for doing so – just like you Bills.

    Like most normal NUFC fans I am enjoying yesterday victory, however, you seem to think that it is some sort of vindication for you, that you were right all along. In fact, it is just the opposite. When the inevitable injuries hit, and we can no longer play 4-3-3 and people are complaining about the sub standard football again it will be my “like” who will come out and say,

    “If Mike Ashley had bought 2/3 more players, we could have played 4-3-3 all season, regardless of injuries”

    As it stands, we are 1 or 2 injuries away from this system disappearing once more from whence it came.

    You’re a marked man this season Bills. If the injuries pile up, and the performances suffer as a result, with Pardew having to resort to 4-4-2, or 4-2-3-1 because Ashley hasn’t given him the proper resources, I wonder will you be as brave to post “Mike Ashley In!” again?

    We will see.

    Great win, great performance. Long may it continue.

  • 68 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Anyone else see Ben Arfa’s interview with the BBC after the game ? .

    He was saying when he hears fans telling him to attack the fullbacks it gives him the ability to fly 🙂 . Words can’t describe how much I love the guy 😉

  • 69 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Yo-yo @ 37,

    We’ve have got committment from Ashley – he isnt selling our top players as many of you predicted he would. The argument that is only because offers arent high enough is ludicrous – is that not why any club doen’t sell? He could have made £8M-£12M profit on Cabaye but turned it down – explain that as non-committment.

    You are right that a couple of good games doesn’t mean we are a great team with a great manager and I’m not claiming that. But we do have a decent settled squad with some outstanding players who – with the five from Jan also settled in and Remy looking good – could surprise the critics this season.

    It isn’t all doom and gloom and we are definitely not a joke club in crisis. That is media bullsh1t.

  • 70 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM


    It isn’t all doom and gloom and we are definitely not a joke club in crisis. That is media bullsh1t.

    If that is indeed the case then explain why so many former players are openly criticising Ashley and the way he is running the club. Explain Harpers comments?

  • 71 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:43 PM


    The up your own ar$e arrogant bullsh1t you spout is beyond anything I could cough up.

    You say I’m a marked man?! I’m quaking in my boots. Not.

  • 72 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Found it 🙂 :

  • 73 roy // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Playing through the midfield is how we finished 5th then for some reason Pardew, decided to play hoof ball last season. Maybe it was the class of players at his disposal such as Perch, Williamson, Simpson Taylor and Jonas who have disappeared from the squad thankfully. The five recruits from January have bedded in now and the team looks well balanced. So its onwards and upwards.

  • 74 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:45 PM


    Explain to me how we are a joke club in crisis when we can put out the team and bench that we did yesterday.


  • 75 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM


    Just hope you’re big enough to handle it. You’ve been extremely quiet recently, but lo and behold, you’re here this morning give it large about how Mike Ashley is the saviour following one decent away win. How was yesterday’s performance anything to do with Ashley?

  • 76 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    It isn’t all doom and gloom, that is true. The media exaggerate how bad the situation is, no denying that, but it isn’t all rosy in the garden. We still have the same squad that you said needed 3 players, and if we didn’t get anyone you would be angry at Ashley for it. Here you are praising we didn’t sell anyone? You are losing credibility, by the post. I used to get your viewpoint, but if you can’t accept that you get some stuff wrong then it takes away from all that you post, even the parts that make sense.

    I said at the start that Jan in my mind said Ashley may have learnt from last year. He proved me wrong over the summer, and I’m happy to admit I called that one wrong.

  • 77 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:49 PM


    It’s because you haven’t got the nous for it, can’t all be gifted 😉

  • 78 Blofal // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    I really hope that Pardew continues to use the league cup to blood younger players. CBs dont really get a good run out on loan so Good should be developed by playing him like we did against Morecombe.

    Vuckic, Good, Dummet, Sammy and Campbell i think all should play against Leeds. The standard of the reserves is not good enough and these kids are not going to get better just sitting on the bench. If things start to look dire throw on Ben Arfa or Cabaye. Maybe even start Cisse to see if he can get a bit of confidence.

    Dummet, Colo, Good, Santon
    Marveaux, Sissoko, Tiote, Sammy
    ——Campbell, Gouffran

  • 79 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM


    Answering a question with a question???

    Thats poor mate.

  • 80 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM


    With all due respect, that team would get massacred.

  • 81 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Since we got promoted Sunderland have had three managers, bought practically a new team every season, hardly one signing has been of any success, they have finished below us every season and they have a buffoon of a manager and currently sit bottom of the Prem with one point.

    Now THAT imo is a club in crisis.

    Ellis Short out.

  • 82 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM


    As for my arrogance how about your own, are you so arrogant that you can’t accept that all it takes is an injury to Remy, or Gouffran or Cabaye to take this lovely house of cards crashing down?

  • 83 toonking // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    palace Swansea should be an interesting game next weekend. Swansea have so far W1 L2 and we have W2 D1 and L2 ok Swansea did have a hard start but these days results can never be predicted ie Cardiff V city villa V arsenal.

    I didn’t see the full game yesterday because I was coming back from a 2day cycle ride so only watched the 1hour highlights. what I saw from them shows that team is about as good as it gets and with HBA and remy on either side it means now we have decent threats from both ends also cabaye can play as the middle man.
    with the 4-2-3-1 (which is how sky put it) yesterday what I saw make the difference was cabaye’s position and our LW

    last season the midfield was in such a mess with no decent service from the LW as Jonas was the main man and in the CAM was sissoko who I think is more decent in a tiote role also HBA was constantly having to go into the centre due the the lack of support from other midfielders and cisse was always offside.

    the thing I think has changed the most is debuchy and santon are starting to realize just how quick players are in the premier league so they can’t afford to get forward too much because it messes the midfield up totally with CDM now going wide L/R wingers going central forcing the FB to get all the way to the otherside where as if they remain in their own half the wide men now have got more players in the centre and can therefore be a threat himself from the width.

    my only worry is injuries especially to the forward and width.

  • 84 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM


    My question was the answer to your question.

    I”d ask exactly the same question to Shearer, Rob Lee, Ginola and the rest of them – and I’d love to hear them answer it.

  • 85 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM


    Tino, Rob Lee, Shearer and Harper – All men that are far better informed and in a far better position to speak about how the club is being run than us have all spoken about the poor way Ashley is running the club. If you want to simply ignore that and continue to blindly follow Ashley and co then fine mate, good luck to you.

    When a man like Harper who has been a part of this club for his entire career speaks out I’ll listen to him and his views more.

    “If the club was a body, the fans are the heart.” “It’s a cliché, but the fans do bleed black and white. They are its heartbeat, but the link between the brain and the heart is no longer there.”

    “Newcastle are bleeding and if that isn’t addressed, if the wound is not allowed to heal, whatever is special about the club is in danger of dying.” “The fans make the club tick, but they feel detached from it.”

    “Whenever the club has done well over, the fans have been on board. They have been fully behind their team, their club.” “I think their loyalty has been tested far too often in recent years.”

    “It’s one of the great clubs, but it should be competing amongst the very best in Europe. It’s getting harder and harder to break on to the top table and opportunities have been missed.”

    “We finished fifth a couple of years ago, but to sustain that you need investment in the team.” “If I had a message to Mike Ashley it would be to engage with the fans, to repair that relationship. It’s not totally broken, but it doesn’t just need a plaster on it, it needs to be fixed.”

  • 86 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Now he’s using tired comparisons to Sunderland. Compare us to Middlesbrough, we look great compared to them. Or better yet, compare us to Gateshead or Blythe Spartans. We’re Barca compared to them!

    Clutching at straws Bills.

  • 87 Blofal // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Ciaran… its the league cup… who cares if we lose. The FA cup is the one I’d fight for. The idea is to develop our players and sitting on the bench or playing reserves doesnt help our younger players get anywhere near the first team. They need to be either loaned or played.

  • 88 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:57 PM


    For a club that hasn’t won anything – even the League Cup – since 1969, can we afford to be arrogant about what trophies we want to win?

  • 89 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Sunderland finished above us in 10/11, below in 11/12 and if we are taking in last season as a positive, then 2 points above them, 1 place and 10 worse off in goal difference.

    I don’t think anyone is pointing out Sunderland as a shining light though, so to bring that into the argument shows you have very little to actually back up your points.

  • 90 Rooster // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Lets see if Pardew changes a winning team, I don’t count Cisse in that cos he was awful and he will play him anyway, Tiote back in for Anita I would say is what Pardew will do, Gouffron should be in from the start.

    Pardews Team v Hull


    The Benny n Remy show!

  • 91 MAUTITOON // Sep 15, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Ecstatic about yesterday’s away win since i didn’t expect anything of the sort.wonderful spirit by the players,and great job by sir ALAN PARDEW.AT LEAST he is the only person bravely facing the toon fans unlike others in moments of turmoil,doom and gloom.Got to admire him for that and i sincerely hope that he reaps the merit of those acts with unlimited success with the toon army.Keep on the great work sir ALAN,it will not take long for u too to become a LEGEND.

  • 92 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Especially to mention them and be factually wrong about the point you are trying to make

  • 93 MacToon // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    bills-son // Jun 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Well, this next window really is the one that will show us how much ambition MA has for NUFC. He has learnt last season that the first team squad wasn’t strong enough, the ‘promising youngsters’ weren’t ready or good enough and that his policy of take it or leave it offers can work very well – but when it doesn’t he needs nailed on alternatives.

    I think Ashley will pull the rug out from the doomsayers – smug solano especially – by making some sensational signings.

    If we have a poor window I promise to admit I was an idiot for being fooled by Ashley and I’ll totally withdraw my support for him.


    There is no point engaging this poster in any reasoned arguements, clearly stockholm syndrome has taken hold 😉

  • 94 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    I agree, any trophy is one worth fighting for, particularly when realistically you only have 2 options. To write one off in favour of a more competitive trophy is a crazy suggestion.

  • 95 Roppa // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Williamsonsuks #18
    Link for the full match:

  • 96 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM


    If I had to point to a time where you might seem credible, I’d have thought it would be after an excellent away victory. However, it seems that you cannot even manage that, so how do you think you’d be received after a disappointing home defeat this season?

    The Mike Ashley express is on a one way ticket out of here, hopefully sooner rather than later, and I cannot wait to see that fat, arrogant, b*****d out of the club we love.

    To say your opinion saddens me is an understatement.

  • 97 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM


    If we won the League Cup I think I’d have to discount a month from my life as a write off because I would just be celebrating constantly! Haha


    Superb. There it is in black and white people. Bills, hold your hands up and save some dignity lad.

  • 98 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM


    Asley takes credit because the team contained Krul, Santon, Cabaye, HBA and Cisse – all players that you and others forecast that the FGB Ashley would sell. What part of Ashley not cashing in don’t you get??


    I’m fed up saying that I’m pi$$ed off that we didn’t sign another CF and CB, fed up saying I blame Ashley for hiring Kinnear who has clearly screwed up. Does that mean I’m going to join the hysterical screaming Ashley haters – absolutely not.

    I”ve consistently said before a ball was kicked that Pardew should be given ten games to see what he can do with this squad – he’s made a decent start.

    Take all of the hype away and my position is and always has been that Ashley is nowhere near the catastrophically bad owner that many claim him to be. And a damn sight better that every one we’ve had bar possibly John Hall – who trousered millions from the club for him and his sponging son.

  • 99 Blofal // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Ciaran your right. We should take our relatively small squad thats just a couple of injuries away from a relegation battle like last season and play our strongest team in all games and leave our younger players bereft of experience to try and break into the first team based on their performances in the reserves?

    Unless you have the money to field squads like the top 4 you have to pick what your going to go for. How many times have we seen teams win cups and get relegated in the same season? Pardew wants a run at the FA cup. So lets see if some of the youngsters can surprise us in the League cup.

  • 100 Rooster // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Jack Butler, those were great words from Harper, that’s the thing the detachment of emotions, the cold blooded way of BUSINESS that is being used and as I have supported MA plenty in the past, I don’t mind saying he has really got to stop the bullshitting with the fans, all summer, I could have smacked the twast for treating us with contempt this summer, Bills, I always understand your arguments, but he mugged us off big time this summer and two wrongs don’t make a right, a couple of decent wins, same patten, like yesterday,we did play canny goa goal up then sit deeper, that’s the gameplan, and hope for another on the break, with Remy n Benny we have that option of course, but everything isn’t hunky dory in the big picture, it cant just be brushed over, take it day in day out, im not just agreeing with someone to save face if I don’t agree with their actions, and MA has ahell of a lot of making up to do along wit Pardew and JK.

  • 101 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:10 PM


    I never thought, or said he would sell any of those players, had a fear he might though. It’s not good enough to just think it’s a success that we didn’t sell our top players.

  • 102 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    In that case, to praise Ashley for the squad we have doesn’t make sense! You have said there that we are lacking players in the squad, so just because most of the squad is fit doesn’t make Ashley right. That is an incredibly short term view!

    I agree, he isn’t as bad as some make out, and he has done some good things in his time he doesn’t get credit for by many. I’d love him gone, I’m realistic enough to know it is unlikely, and I’d prefer him to learn from his errors, rather than statements saying they have, right before he drops another bollock.

    Anyway, far too nice a say here to argue with someone who has been shown not to be able to accept other views or alter thoughts despite claiming they will, so I’m off to enjoy the sun and walk the dog. Enjoy!

  • 103 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:16 PM


    You’re describing what is wrong with Mike Ashley. We should have a squad capable of competing in the PL and all the cups. We should be giving the cups a go, as I think we won’t get relegated.

    So if our ambition is to only stay in the league, shouldn’t we at least give the cups a go?

  • 104 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM


    I am an idiot for thinking Ashley would keep all of our best players AND sign two or three marquee signings.

    Now – does that make you and Ciaran feel better?

    Look at the team and bench we had yesterday. Are we a joke club in crisis with an FGB owner who sells for profit?

    Answer that.

  • 105 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Ashley isn’t to blame for the way the club is being run….neither is Kinnear or Pardew.

    The one and only thing that is killing this club off is the apathy of it’s fans……….by allowing his to continually get away with running us the way he is we are simply allowing his to continue with no recource

  • 106 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM


    You’re disingenuous for going back on your word, and that’s why you’ve been pulled up and you know that.

  • 107 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM


    Look at the team and bench when we pick up injuries and suspensions and we will be in crisis

  • 108 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM


    You say – I never thought or said he would sell any of those players, had a fear he might though.

    What the fk does that mean?

    A definite maybe and cover your ar$e in all directions statement.

  • 109 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM


    You’re certainly in no position to be pulling anyone up on the validity of their statements right now are you?

  • 110 MacToon // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Bills, you are taking the fact we didn’t sell any “purple” players as an act of kindness but at the same time didn’t improve on the situation, classic stockholm syndrome. Think you need to take a big deep breath and think about it.

    For the record, I think Remy is a good player and gutted we didn’t buy him in January, if we had I think the situation would have been so different over the summer.

    Don’t understand why JFK was brought in to get one player on loan and guess Carr must be gutted spending so much time building dossiers on players for no apparent reason (OK so I’m exaggerating to make a point).

  • 111 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:28 PM


    We couldn’t even get that loan deal for Remy with an option to buy such is the football acumen of Kinnear and co

  • 112 welshgeordie9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    I wonder if we will sign anybody in January.

  • 113 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:32 PM


    If Bony and Michu get injured who have Swansea got in reserve?

    I could go on. You can make the injuries and suspension argument for just about every club bar the top four.

    We are FAR better off than we were last year especially now that the Jan five are bedded in and Remy is here. Not perfect but nowhere near as bad as you make out.

  • 114 welshgeordie9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    I wonder if we will sign anybody in January

  • 115 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:33 PM


    If we are comfortable in mid table then no we wont sign anyone, but if we are threatened by a relegation fight no doubt Ashley will open the cheque book…………….just like last January

  • 116 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    welsh – of course we will – in the clothing trade – the January Sales are the most important period of the year.

  • 117 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    As I said in a previous post, the reason the fat man never sold Cabaye is simply because he didn’t have to, Arsenal apparently offered market value which Ashley knows he will get anyway as soon as Cabaye refuses his slightly improved new deal, the bigger picture is the extra TV money every year, the only gamble being that we don’t get relegated, like I have said many times before we have an owner famous for his lovce of casinos’, but prefers gambling with our demise rather than our success.

  • 118 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    However he is he’s probably better than Shola Ameobi.

  • 119 toonking // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    we will still have some decent enough players that will be starting the game debuchy the CM and probably HBA.

    the key point blofal making refers to how vunerable the left side can be to even 1 injury.

    remy and santon are 2 players who I can see switching about sometime this year. if debuchy got injured for instance we stuck so would have to shift santon their which then leaves us with only dummett. then of course comes remy who at the minute is our best threat from the LW but he is only just getting match fit also their is a court case and if cisse gets injured he will have to go to a striker and marvo I think is just not interested because he has had as many chances as anita had this year to prove being a start but has did nothing even Sammy deserves more chance than marvo. so the worst thing in the world would be we are forced to play players who have got little XP in league game especially ones fans expect a win, so these cup game help give provide some XP and learning to handle pressure.

    my team for the cup would go

    subs cabaye anita cisse colo remy santon krul

    another thing all this does ruddy is it will force more pressure onto the starting 11 of league games to do well which is what cisse still doesn’t seem to be doing.

  • 120 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    * Whoever

  • 121 lesh // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Ibiza @10 (previous thread)…. Apologies for the time taken to get back. Yup, I did see Hatem’s MoTD interview and animation and enthusiasm prompted my comment about catching the moment and discuss his extension when he’s on a high.

    But, keep Kinnear out of it, that bufoon’d test anybody’s patience!

    Wolfshead @25.

    No I’m. Not suggesting that we didn’t get any signings in because Kinnear was brokering discussions between Kerry and Leverdef – the chemical weapons issue hadn’t raised its head then. Hr would’ve been on a number of worldly important matters though.

    We’ve got to bear with him understand his prioritisation of things that need his input and wisdom whilst he influences other potential catastrophes and conflicts.

    In the grand plan of things, input transfer business is insignificant. Maybe Ashley should get Kinnear an assistant!

  • 122 MacToon // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    JB, it is a sad state of affairs. Four games into a long season and we have those believing all is hunky dory at NE1.
    I guess I’ll be reading Keegan, Shearer, Harper, Tino, Rob Lee, Andy Cole, Mick Quinn, MacDonald (and more) all coming out in the press tomorrow saying they made a mistake and Ashley is the best thing since sliced bread…….

  • 123 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:43 PM


    Ashley not selling any top player since AC has led to all types of explanatory theories – including the one you oft repeat.

    The truth might simply be that he is intent on buying and building a very good squad that he wants to keep.

    Have you ever considered that one?

  • 124 Newcastle for alltid // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Before the game yesterday I didn`t expect us to get anything out of it. I expected Aston Villa to overrun us and beat us comfortably.
    It was clear from the start though that something has changed tactically. The 4-3-3 from two seasons ago which could absolutely pick the opposition apart was back – and we play along the ground. Cabaye in the advanced midfield role as well. Brilliant. Finally it did show what excellent players we have. As long as they`re played in their best position, we look very good.

    A couple of key aspects of the game is worth mentioning in addition to what I wrote above:
    1. Ben Arfa. In a 4-4-2 he picks up the ball way too deep. Yesterday he was always up there receiving the ball in the winger position where he may be one of the best players in the world. Unpredictable, and a nightmare to play against.
    2. Substitutions. When Gouffran came on and scored we showed some good depth in our squad. He`s a solid player with lots of experience from his days at Bordeaux. Having an alternative like him to come off the bench is very good. His goal was probably, for me, the most pleasing part of the game.

    If we can carry on playing our football along the ground in a 4-3-3, it may be a good season, as we look like a completely different team. The only problem now is to get Cissè back on goalscoring ways, as he doesn`t look to confident at the moment.

  • 125 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Bills…I don’t think many believes that story mate 😉

    …we would. all like to believe that story but common how naive do you have to be?

  • 126 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM


    Who is saying its all hunky dory? Not me.

    Who is saying its all doom and gloom? You and your new bosum buddy Ciaran the blog parasite.

  • 127 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Apart from the City game which never went to well the fixture list has been very kind to us this season in terms of being able to get a few wins under our belts, a start like Villas’ and things might not be looking so good.

  • 128 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM


    Fact is Ashley – despite five windows since the AC sale – is yet to sell a top player.

    The likes of Jail keep saying wait til the next window – we are all still waiting.

    My theory if anything has more weight.

  • 129 fatman // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:51 PM


    Ashley did not sell players simply because we had no buyers and to praise Ashley under these circumstances just proves what many on this site feel and that is you live in an alternative reality to the rest of us. we had one offer of £10m for Yohan Cabaye and that was it, some times reality is far more simpler to understand.

  • 130 walker_lad // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    I like 433 formation but not with cisse I would like to try a rotating front 3

    With arfa remy gouffran

    Then that’s a hell of a lot of pace and attacking awareness also we would be a threat on headers with remy and gouffran

    We definatly need arfa and Anita in the side and sissokos a power house

    We got a sound back for who’s righted the wrongs from last season so if fitness stays well and we try we can get anywhere from. 8th to 5th imo


  • 131 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Yes I had considered it, in fact I got quite excited about it when we finished fifth and qualified for Europe, in fact I got even more excited when Pardew released a statement to the press saying that four or five quality players would be brought in during the summer, but on the contrary what actually happened was that rather than building a quality team that he wanted to keep, he put a price via Pardew on every players head and actually weakened the team, so the evidence was there to prove without a shadow of doubt that survival and not success is the long term plan until he has his money back.

  • 132 9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Let’s use this good result to look ahead. I see 51 points this season – should be top 8 at least.

  • 133 yorkshire_magpie // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Streamed the game yesterday and that is probably the best attacking performance we have had for a long long time. Ben Arfa was magical. Eveytime he got the ball he was doing something special.

  • 134 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    fatman – you are correct in suggesting that bills lives in an alternative reality. I think it’s called Planet Zog.
    “Earth calling Space Cadet Bills son -currently orbiting Planet Zog please return to Earth”.
    On second thoughts stay in orbit -please.

  • 135 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    I’ve now seen our last three league games and there has been a marked improvement in performance. Noticeably yesterday a growing confidence in our play which augurs well for tougher tests to come.

    It would appear that much of what Pardew spoke of pre season, as the changes required going forward, have in fact been implemented. The sort of things discussed endlessly on here; pressing the opposition and following the Cloughie mantra of playing football on the ground, supporting by pass and much better movement off the ball. However, the major change is watching a well drilled and organised defence-the talk in the pub before the game was of the damage Benteke could cause us. Well Coloccini and Yanga had him in their pockets. It took an uncustomary poor performance by Timmy to gift him a goal.

    Yanga has made a massive difference simply because he has pace and intelligence in his reading of the game. We are keeping a higher line
    and the defence as a whole seem to have developed the habit of closing and swarming over and pressing the opposition man on the ball and any likely recipient of a pass. Energy levels were excellent particularly compared with last season. only Cabaye and Remy were blowing hard because their fitness levels still have to be worked on. The full backs concentrated as a priority on defending and both were outstanding.

    We played Villa at their own counter attacking game with good movement and link play. The beast that is Sissoko was more defensive but also the wide men tackled and covered back but not to the exclusion of fast direct runs and with the emphasis on them being an attacking force. In general a good balance between defence and attack. Cabaye I suspect because of his current fitness level was played in a more advanced role . He was far from his best but was influential in his selection of a pass and dictating of play. Give him a few games.

    HBA, attacking the Villa defence throughout was reminiscent of the season before last. His hugging the touchline stretched the Villa defence and Remy’s runs on the other wing put us in the box seat. With our varied movement and quicker delivery into the last third.

    Clearly much work has been done on the training ground. as i said of the defence we overall looked a well drilled and organised side. It is pleasing to think that Pardew has options on the bench and Tiote’s arrival gave us a boost in energy. Gouffran finally scored what was a harder chance than those he had missed in recent games. He is a good option going forward as Cisse is struggling. Personally I would persevere for the time being with him because he is also a little short of full fitness.

    Early days and clearly with a small squad injuries to our key players will impact. It was good though to see so many happy in fact elated fans at Villa Park and surrounds. My thanks to those in the Witton Arms who having missed the Man City game brought me up to date with the current chants. No doom and gloom with the toon army. We’re looking forward to the Hull game where different questions will be asked for team and fans alike.


  • 136 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    We really need to keep injury free otherwise there will be a repeat of last season. I recall reading sometime ago before Dirty Harry kidnapped Remy that Remys’ body was so finely tuned that he was susceptible to injuries. just have to hope that the fitness woman has introduced some new knowledge into SJP.
    Ref Benny – this bloke can do things with a ball that others can only dream of. Needs to replicate it on the pitch though -AND keep free of injuries.

  • 137 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM


    Which theory do I often refer to???

  • 138 fatman // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    don’t get me wrong the game yesterday was full of positives be we are still 1 injury away from a crisis if anything happens to Ben Arfa we so far have shown little else and if Ben Arfa plays like that every week he will be sold Liverpool are watching him and if he stays fit will make a move. and the only time i will be happy about the situation with Ben Arfa is when i can see his replacement coming in. And why when something is so obvious, do we need to wait. its now we need to replace him.

  • 139 stuart no9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    pardew–“The most important thing at our football club is the team. – wrong on your very first comment – the fans are the most important people at this club you arragant tw’t .

  • 140 Fostino // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    team that started yesterday is our best team at the moment. the only way I can see it improving is if marv or tiote force their way past anita.

    its a very good starting 11 to be fair..if you compare it to our strongest 11 at the start of last season

    simpson replaced with debuchy
    s taylor replaced with yanga
    jonas replaced with sissoko
    tiote replaced with anita
    ba with remy

    bear in mind tiote, Jonas, s tyalor are on the bench. progress has been made…..has it ot??

  • 141 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM


    All these former players coming out and speaking against Ashley simply cannot be ignored…………though there are a few that will ignore everything that is said by those who’s opinion is that of someone who has been on the inside and knows more than we ever will.

    The apathy of people like bills is what will kill this club by blindly accepting whatever BS is thrown their way and even going as far as to make excuses for Ashley and co

  • 142 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Well I thought I would let the dust settle a bit on this one. Lots of good things yesterday, closing down way way better, we looked lots fitter and using the wide spaces more. Hatem looking better pushed forward, love how defenders know whats coming but he does it anyway lol at that. Could go on about his play, especially the defo pena shout (jasper carrot needs his villa glasses taken off his heed) but another time maybe. Thought Santon looked more like he knows what he is doing, he’s looking the real thing now. Remy adds some force to defensive cover as well as a threat going forward.

    Don’t want to be negative but there were still signs of the usual against a villa who dont convince me as being much better than last year. Poor short passing especially by Sissoko. Debuchy (who had a good game) was let off the hook a few times by Agbonlahors poor use of space he gained on him.

    We are obviously concentrating on creating goals from the middle which is good, but Cisse is becoming peripheral, and if he is replaced by Remy (using Gouffran as a starter on the wing), Remy might end up the same way if he’s not careful.

    But hey, its 3 points away, plenty of games to go and s**derlan’ are right at the bottom. Happy hour! 🙂

  • 143 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    bills-son – Where are we now? Don’t get sucked in – your a proper not a plastic fan.

    I like Ed’s – ” Support the team not the regime” Mind you I would feel more comfortable of sustaining a good showing had Ashley spent on another ST. Still it’s history and we need to get behind the manager and team.

  • 144 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Plastic fan – Really???

  • 145 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Oopsey forgot to say also subs were bang on. Anita right to start, needed movement to get us going forward, Tiote actually slows things down which is good when you are protecting a lead. And Gouffran well self expanatory pleased for the lad.

  • 146 Transfer Sage // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    I was very impressed with the team yesterday. Pardew picked his strongest team of form players, we played higher up the field and continued to attack for the game.

    We also dominated both halves something a few complained we don’t do often. Sure in the second villa had a very strong 15/20 but I think we were better for the other 25/30 which is good to see.

    The key will be keeping our forwards fit as they are the ones who allow us to play this way. If they stay for for the majority of games til January and we can bring in one or two then we will be much better off.

    There may be bargains in January. Players who aren’t getting any game time who want to move for football to get in World Cup squads might allow us to do some business.

  • 147 MacToon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Bills at 125, you can be so hurtful sometimes.

    JB, I totally agree the apathy is damaging this club. It has effected me too to be honest.

  • 148 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Ian Toon – agreed it was great to see us finally defend high up the pitch so well at last without letting them in behind, but am I the only one wondering why villa sat back so much for a home team? I dont think we will get many more like that.

  • 149 Transfer Sage // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Look on the selling club debate.

    I think we are the same as any club. Keep your players unless a good bid comes in. Anybody would accept selling a top player for top money if that was used the bolster the squad. The thing Ashley has shown is he is then slow to spend that money so the sale doesn’t benefit the team.

    Spurs are the perfect example to that approach. They have sold loads of players for good money berbatov, Keene, carrick, modric, bale to name the biggest 5. But they strengthened when they were sold, during that widow which makes them kick on and not stagnate.

    Our season has been good since the city game, mainly since remy started playing which shows if these deals had been done the start of last season we may well be still in Europe

  • 150 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Pokat- Sissoko doesn’t always exercise the right option and his distribution can improve. Once Cabaye is fully fit this will be less of an issue because recycling of the ball will fall more to him. Sissoko though provides the energy in midfield that Tiote did the season before last. He really is a terrific athlete.

  • 151 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I don’t think we are a selling club unless the offer is over the top i.e Carrol, but we are not investing enough in the club, being run on the bare minimum and gambling with our future is the worst thing Ashley could do

  • 152 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    We really pressurised them and the fact that Benteke’s contribution was surprisingly poor helped. He looked a shadow of the player of last season but hey Yanga came close to being my man of the match.

  • 153 croftus5678 // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    we still lack that main striker imo ! gomis would have been great in place of cisse against villa in fact i even think shola would have had a great game against villa also !

    goofy/remy/arfa do brilliantly using pace for behind the main striker but sadly we dont have a decent hold up player in cisse to take the pressure off there support.

    i would rather have goofy as main striker tbh with arfa/remy behind…shola as sub.

    poor cisse did so well at first now it seems the team has progressed beyond him.

  • 154 low fell mag // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Didn’t take long for the Pennywell lads to surface.
    JFA @ Mr Tuffty and a few others to try and take the shine of a great win.
    Try the other blog ,I think they call it A love Supreme, Suits you mugs.
    Once again well done to the lads for a great win.

  • 155 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:32 PM


    I think Cisse’s confidence has been shot to pieces as last season he was made to live of scraps and then he got stuck out on the wing which didn’t help him.

    If we continue to play like we did yesterday and the confidence in the whole team continues to grow Cisse will once again find his form and the net

  • 156 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Bills…for me it’s not so much about what Mike doesn’t sell, but more so what he doesn’t buy and most of all when he doesn’t buy!

  • 157 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    the win yesterday was a great result- bit of attacking play, forward movement, massive energy levels. Good three points.
    The downside in blog terms is that the win has acted like a poultice used to draw the puss and maggots out of a boil on Ashleys arse. First to be drawn out is the mad greengrocer from the Heed, then Space Cadet Bills son and to complete the prile of festering ninnies out pops Ian Toon (aka Mr Multiple).

  • 158 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Pokat- winning builds confidence. Villa hadn’t played for three weeks and the media had created an artificial pressure of mutiny which simply didn’t show in a very professional performance. A local reporter in the midlands, John Percy had forecast a 3-0 defeat for the toon. It’s like believing all the doom and gloom from the usual suspects on here. Fans believe what they want to believe. Pardew is not the best but far from the worst manager in the PL. It was good to see so many happy faces in the Doug Ellis at the end of the game and the 2,800 odd made for a great atmosphere. We haven’t forgotten the Villa fans treatment when we were relegated.

  • 159 croftus5678 // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    @154 jb

    yes agree we relied on him far far too much and i’m sure he will find form of some sorts (tbh i dont think he was played on the wing though when ba left) he’s a great striker when on form even though his misses are very annoying.

  • 160 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    low fell- if you can’t enjoy a good win when the mackems lose when can you! Trouble is some people just enjoy being miserable.

  • 161 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM


    You are right when Ba left he was only used as a striker, but last season we really struggled to tie the midfield and striker together, our final ball was pub standard for the most part.

    I love Cisse yet he does frustrate the hell out of me at time’s, but the form he showed when he first came here was no fluke and he is a class player if given the right service and support

  • 162 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Bills…I would argue that theory if anything has more weight!

  • 163 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM


    Me apathy and the Toon shouldn’t be in the same sentence.

    I went to my first game over 50 years ago and I’ve en a season ticket holder for nigh on 30 years. I’ve seen the good, the bad, the ugly and the absolute sh1te. I’ve gone from the glory of winning the Fairs Cup and losing FA Cup Finals to losing to non league Bedford and Hereford and 12000 crowds in Div 2 under the dark days of Bill McGarry.

    Like any supporter my age I”ve seen far more garbage than great football, far more disappointment than ecstasy and far more players here for the money than for the shirt. And yet – I’m still in the same seat Ive been in for nearly 30 years, still roar the team out of the tunnel, still get on a high whenever we score or win and still get totally pi$$ed off whenever we lose.

    I am – like many other Toon fans old and young – Newcastle daft. Call me anything – but being apathetic about the Toon is just about the worst bit of nonsense that could be levelled at me.

    Blind unadulterated hope might be nearer the mark 🙂

  • 164 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Trouble is that some people play the gallery when it suits them. They are critical of Pardew when the mood strikes, and criticise the running of the club if it wins them support. Will jump on the back of a good performance to seem like the best fan in the world, and lament lack of signings to seem like a genuinely hurting fan.

    These people just play the gallery, they stand for nothing, and they know who they are.

  • 165 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Mister Tuff- your out of touch. Whilst you were away Ed exploded the myth perpetuated by the nameless and “friends”. Please feel free to contact him for confirmation.

    I choose not to post very often because of the doom and gloom generated by some posters – do you now what I mean!

  • 166 low fell mag // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Mr Tuffty, you seem to know a lot about me , the thing that bothers me is that ,I don’t know you.
    There are several Mackams in my neighbourhood , are you one of them ,I wonder?
    Please call in to my shop and we could have a little chat.

  • 167 stu mel // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    I don’t care much for Ashley one bit, money hungry and all I hear is bragging about bits of paper and shows of narcissism, mix with psychopathic desire to display his control and power over people. But I have to ask everybody what has he done this summer which is so wrong. He didn’t spend his money and give a job to somebody because it made him lath.
    I would love some millionaire to Yale the club off Ashley’s hands. But can someone give me a list of this guys crime against us. I just don’t get it. He’s a bad owner and a crook but? ?
    Please don’t jump on my back but I just see the hate. But I’m not mad he isn’t a good thing for the club, I’m saying he’s got an expense sense of humor lol jfk

  • 168 croftus5678 // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    @160 jb

    yep thats what i think also.

    our midfield is packed with high quality players now and even sammy and fergie can put some very good balls in there now as squad players so things are finally looking up for us 🙂

    collo/mbiwa have surely proved they are our best cb’s ! my bloodpressure norm goes through the roof but villa i was fairly calm apart from the odd occasions.
    a 3rd cb is needed though as i think curtis is our 3rd best atm.

  • 169 low fell mag // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Bills Son, take my hat off to you Sir.
    Your knowledge and blogs are second to none.
    Keep up the good work!

  • 170 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:52 PM


    You’re better off not engaging with the lunatic. Leave him for bills and mug. The rest of us know what a psycho he is.

  • 171 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Ciaran @ 163

    Why don’t you just tell us who these fans are?

    You and you little ‘card is marked” and ‘you know who you are’ nonsense. Get a life man.

  • 172 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:53 PM


    Kiss of death if ever there was one…

  • 173 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    bills-son – you don’t have to make a case for being a proper supporter.
    I sat next to a fan of 60+ from Whitley Bay who I also sat next to at the
    WHU game at the back end of last season. It’s one thing arguing your corner with other teams fans but not your own. At away games nobody is still talking about bungled transfer windows etc which is the on-going talking point for many on here. If we should have a good season – where are they then?

  • 174 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:55 PM


    “Get a life” – so we’re on the playground now? For man supposedly in his 50s you really need to look at your level of maturity. I’ve got an excuse for my somewhat petulant behaviour at times, what’s yours?

  • 175 JackButler // Sep 15, 2013 at 3:56 PM


    Then for someone who has sat in the same seat for 30 years, which I have nothing but the greatest respect for you for, how the hell can you accept the lie’s and constant BS that Ashley minions throw around?

    For me to get to SJP it takes a 700 round trip and over the last 30 years I’ve spent an untold fortune supporting this club. I can accept most things and being a NUFC fan as long as I have, I’ve had no other option other than to put up with poor football, a poorly run club, highlighted by some amazing times under Sir Bobby and KK, but what I cannot and will not accept is this lot running this club on a shoestring budget, the blatant lie’s and the disgraceful way in which WE THE FANS have been treated.

    This is our club and Ashley is simply the latest tenant and if you simply accept everything that he dishes out then that apathy is what will allow it to continue.

    When players like Tino, Rob Lee, Shearer, Harper and a few more are openly questioning what is going on at the club then we the fans need to wake up and show that we will no longer simply sit back and accept it

  • 176 croftus5678 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    @163 ciaran

    no offence intended as i have my own opinions but do you not think all fans have the right to there opinions no matter how they see things ?

    i myself have criticised pards for his negetive play prior to this season and i believe myself to be justified in my opinions yet at the villa game he has obv changed his playing style hence i am very very happy but that did not ever mean i wanted us to do badly and that i never supported them !

    and i’ll be honest i still dont like the way our club is run even though we have back to back wins !!! i understand we buy in our budgets ect and understand we wont buy if its not in our means to afford too ! but why lead all us fans on saying we was after this and that player if we was never really after them as we didnt have the funds.

  • 177 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Ian Toon – whilst I was away for a fortnight on holiday I have to say I was not up to date about any developments on the blog. Apologies if I have missed anything relevant.

    Mad Greengrocer from the Heed- I see the veiled suggestion incorporated into your offer to visit your place of business for “a little chat”. Naughty naughty.
    You say your bothered because you do not know me – if you did there might be a possibility you would be bothered a bit more.

  • 178 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    No, but if you’d have said that we’d be sitting in 8th, then I’d have said that’s about what I expected from us this season.

    Incredible to think that if Goofy had scored that sitter against West Ham then we’d be joint top though!

    There’s only 6 teams better than us and we should be competing for top 10 with Everton, Villa and Sunderland. The mackems are doing hilariously badly and we beat Villa away so all good…:-)

    It’s still a concern getting a couple of injuries in key areas, but that’s the case for every team. I’d have liked another striker to upgrade Ameobi…but maybe in Jan…?

  • 179 Jamiemac // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Bills – just leave them mate. Cant be pleased.

  • 180 Rotonda heights // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Bills son – The man who kept trashing Anita. Enough said.

  • 181 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:13 PM


    I think you should name and shame them. At the moment, I can proudly hold my head up high and say that I’ve always said to give Pardew time. We didn’t start off well but the Cabaye situation may have got to the squad. Now, some fans think we’re world beaters! I still say 7th or 8th. I’d have gone with 7th if we’d have signed that striker, but maybe 8th is about right for me now.

  • 182 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Mr Tuff – that’s fine with me.

  • 183 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Hilarious that there are 2 camps among fans on this blog who cant tolerate the opposing views of each other. Even more fun that both resort to insults, ridicule and threats of death by turnip ha ha Nice to see the team manages to be more United than we are. 🙂

    The way I see it there are 2 issues, one we cant do anything about (Mike Ashley) and another we can (support the lads on the pitch). If we try to oust Ashley, whatever methods we employ should not affect the team morale, otherwise its self-defeating.

  • 184 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM


    As Columbo used to say “somethings bugging me” about you and I’ve just realised what it is.

    You are actually no different to the classic ManU supporter who isn’t from Manchester, doesn’t go to games and supports them only because they’ve seen them winning games on the telly. As you admit – you started supporting us as a kid in Ireland watching the Keegan glory years on the telly.

    And you think that givex you the right to come on here pontificating yourself as some white knight on a charger here to save the Toon from the dastardly Ashley?

    How many home games have you been too?

    How many away games?

    Ever seen us lose a Cup Final at Wembley?

    Ever bought a season ticket?

    Seeing as you are now setting youself up with a competitor blog to that of a true fan like Ed I think there are a 100 questions I could ask you that real fans could say yes to that you could only answer no or on the telly.

    And you lecture fans like me on all things NUFC – thats whats been bugging me 🙂

  • 185 Rotonda heights // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:20 PM


    It is Ian today isn’t it? I can call you that can I or is that just certain days of the week? It’s just Ruddy / Ciaran alluded to the fact that you used many pseudonyms and aliases to support your views as confirmed by Ed. If totally unfounded and untrue I do apologise.

  • 186 Rotonda heights // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:25 PM


    Why do you think Pardew appears to have had an epiphany
    and has suddenly out of the blue stopped playing his favourites, started playing people in their right positions, started using 433 again, started playing on the deck and most astoundingly of all has gone for a second goal ,

    All these things have been seemingly obvious for a long time why do you think it is only now that he has realised we do have a good team and good players if played in the correct way and style.

  • 187 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    @183 -ouch! Thats what I am talking about. Harsh mate, harsh.

  • 188 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Those threatening injury by hoying turnips………………..OUT
    Quality vendors of fruit and veg………………………………….IN
    Greenmarket second grade fruit and veg vendors………..OUT

  • 189 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Plenty of turnips here to damage ha ha

  • 190 Rotonda heights // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    I think bills son just confirmed his dinosaur status.

    Who the f…k cares where you come from as long as you support the team.

  • 191 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Rotonda- Very good- LOL. Why don’t you contact Ed. An apology is not necessary it’s difficult sometimes to believe when a myth is continually perpetuated. But to satisfy yourself please contact Ed.

  • 192 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Well I am from a few miles away from the smell of the Tyne so am I disqualified from the blog? Whats the true supporter radius? Anyone? I might have to hand in my Season Ticket ha ha ha give me a break. You cant use the Elite Geordie card here man! The blogs based in the USA! 🙂

  • 193 Pokat // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    @187 – ha ha you are a windy-up arent you, you little devil. 🙂

  • 194 croftus5678 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    @185 rotonda

    omg >..< sssssshhhhhhhhh <.< (in case pards reads this!!! he lies buddy you never did that you carry on the way you are)

  • 195 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM


    Are you fishing for me to say that it’s all thanks to you??? 🙂

    I’ve made my view on this clear before. Last year we had injuries or lack of form to key players. Ben Arfa and Cabaye were nothing compared to the previous season, Anita was still settling in and only performed in flashes, Sammy and Fergie did very little, Marv was inconsistent and Sissoko an Goofy started well but were quickly found out and needed time to settle.

    We have built an attacking squad with some decent replacement on the bench and Pardew is now able to play them together.

  • 196 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM


    I’m not talking about where you come from and supporting the team….

    I’m talking about the fact that Ruddy/Ciaran is a telly supporter who tries to lecture fans like me on passion and commitment to NUFC and at the same time parsites Ed”s blog to direct traffic to his blog – the arrogance of the guy is staggering.

  • 197 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    We’ve got good players, but we do need players like Eriksen, Benteke, Alderweireld and Mauro Zarate. 4 new additons would take us to the next level.

  • 198 Slank // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Pokat @ 182

    ‘…2 issues, one we cant do anything about (Mike Ashley) and another we can (support the lads on the pitch). If we try to oust Ashley, whatever methods we employ should not affect the team morale, otherwise its self-defeating..’

    Very sensible advice. The greater the team morale, the greater the chance they will win and the greater the success of the club and to me the greater the advert that is Newcastle United and therefore the greater the chance that it could be sold.

    Whilst there are exceptions but in general a buyer will want to buy a successful club. They may not wish to buy a club in turmoil especially one with fans demonstrating against the owner as that could well be a foretaste that could happen to them.

  • 199 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    I nearly responded to a post, then I realised it was just Kets. Aaawww, it would be like playing poker against someone with Alzheimers…

  • 200 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Of course the man would say it’s unfounded. How has Ed debunked the “rumours” of his multiple aliases, answer is, he hasn’t. But of course it suits Ian to make this claim.

    He is simply making a counter-claim that I made about having proof of his multiple aliases. It’s really a matter of his word vs mine, and I can no longer give a damn because I know the truth and that’s enough for me.


    I’ve been to over 50 home games in my short time as a Newcastle United supporter, costing, including travel and accommodation, over £200 a pop to go to one match, I am sure you can appreciate the expense.

    I don’t have the luxury of being born in Newcastle, and instead of respecting that privilege to which you were born into, you try and use it as a rod with which to berate me and make me seem like less of a fan.

    Any semblance of respect I may have had for you is now gone.

  • 201 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:40 PM


    How has passion and commitment to NUFC have anything to do with Ed’s blog you absolute moron!?!

  • 202 Slank // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:40 PM


    It hasn’t taken you too long, after the transfer window has closed, to come up with suggestions of players we should buy many of whom most people on this blog think are ludicrous.

    I only hope we are not going to have you banging on about buying players from now till January.

    Give it a break pal.

  • 203 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    They’re the types of players that we need to succeed. Somebody has already stated this previously. Ahh well, at least I got my end away last night.

  • 204 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Rotonda- I would recommend you contact Ed.

  • 205 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    pokat -@192 – glad you appreciate the gags. There are quite a few “Les Miserables” on here who don’t.

  • 206 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM


    Much as I disagree with a lot of the stuff that Ruddy/Ciaran says, you can’t draw out the “not a proper fan card”. If you want supporting NUFC to be a Geordie only thing, then that flies in the face of having fans all around the country and the world.

    Anyone who takes the time to comment on a blog in these troubled times deserves to have their opinion considered at least. If you don’t agree then that’s fine. If you think he’s trolling or just being repetitive then I think you should be allowed to block him. I’ve seen him spout plenty of ridiculous things in my opinion, but I’ve seen even more from some people that you would consider “real fans”.

  • 207 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Yes Rotonda, contact Ed.

  • 208 Ian Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Rotunda- apologies.

  • 209 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:45 PM


    I’m sure there was a compliment in there somewhere…

  • 210 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Anita must start ahead of Tiote next game.

  • 211 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Ciaran @ 200

    You talk about respect yet call me an ‘absolute moron’.


  • 212 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    @ Kets

    I know you get a lot of stick on here, and while I don’t agree with some of your posts I always backed you up on Anita starting over Tiote .

    I just hope the same thing doesn’t happen again . Anita was our best player when Tiote was out of the team but was dropped like hot sh*t when Cheick came back .

    Until Tiote proves he can find the form that made him one of the best DM’s in the league then he should stay on the bench IMO .

  • 213 Wandering Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    I believe that one of the main reasons for a pretty good start to the season is The fitness and the continuity of the current well as unity.

    I also believe that had we gone down the route of amassing further players ,this would have had an adverse effect on morale and also the spirit of the players.

    One only has to see the disastrous start from the teams that have purchased lots of players ie Swansea .West Brom and the pond life…with the exception of Spurs to clearly see that their are major problems

  • 214 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM


    You would reckon that Ed is a great Newcastle United fan, as would I. Given that he has been living in America for the last 40 years, how many season tickets do you think he has bought? How many home or away games has he been to in that time?

    I am not going to judge him as a fan on that basis of course, nor will I judge any fan by the frankly ridiculous assessment with which you are judging me. But by your reckoning Ed, and all other Newcastle United fans outside of Newcastle, are nothing more than a “telly” fan too.

    Or will you forgive him that because he’s a Geordie and I’m not?

  • 215 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM


    I don’t have respect for you, nor would your respect for me make any difference to me. You are a moron.

  • 216 Novocastrian66 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Southampton look a poor team. Considering they have spent big in the summer they’ve not impressed me.

  • 217 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Your personal distaste for me has backed you into a corner with which you cannot come out of with any sense of credibility.

    You have insulted Newcastle fans around the globe with you assessment of what it takes to be a real fan, How do you intend to backtrack from that comment, if indeed, you intend to do that at all?

  • 218 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Anita’s a better footballer. We should have signed Douglas. We can’t afford to play Williamson. We need more creativity, so there’s nothing wrong with saying that. We are also short on strikers. If Gouffran and Remy get injured, we have to start with Shola. I’m a better footballer than Shola. I should have made a professional. It’s all who you know.

  • 219 toonking // Sep 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM


    actually what ever protesting we do should be kepted away from the team did you not see the chaos when we got relegated in the 08/09 season also Blackburn rovers by doing all that protesting achieved nothing but another bad ownership. Middlesboro about 10 years ago had just won the league cup and followed on with a Europa league final but they lost their manager and it wasn’t long before they got relegated and didn’t get much backing from their owners even worst was they are doing some awful charges at the stadium and now the stadium itself is getting so empty and the club keeps dropping further and further back.
    if it is a stadium name change then it won’t affect the moral too much nor would the anger at why kinear was brought in but now the window has closed because of how little we have did with transfers the players we currently have will feel more confident in the sense that they were good enough for this team same goes for the subs but if fans started shout about why their was no signings player will start taking it in a manner that fans consider them not good enough. fans will understand what it is aimed at but the player of the pitch will find it harder to accept unless he was a Geordie himself .

  • 220 check the toastie // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Anita is different gravy to Tiote currently, however we all know that we are one loss away from seeing Tiote and Jonas reinstated in the team, that is just the sad fact of life with our deluded sackless manager in charge.

    And personally I give much more credence to Bills comments as he has had such a long standing commitment both financially and emotionally than many others on here.

    Living and being from the Toon unfortunately makes the problems or attachment to the club a little bit more raw in my eyes.

    Any long standing Season ticket holder in my eyes either deserves much respect, or on the flip side must have had some major frontal lobe accident.

  • 221 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    “Planet Earth calling Space Cadet Bills son, Planet Earth calling Space Cadet Bills son, you have been promoted to Senior Street Judge -please proceed immediately with your Starship fighter from space to the Toon and eliminate all those who have not bought season tickets and who have not been to Wembley watching the Toon.
    If any old grannies get in the way blast them as well”.
    “Please confirm you accept the mission”.

  • 222 Novocastrian66 // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    You do not have to live or be born exclusively in Newcastle or the North East of England to be a Newcastle United supporter.
    There are Newcastle United fans all over the world, from all walks of life and long may this continue.
    I do not agree with the boycott brigade however as supporters they’re entitled to their opinion. It’s easier to be an advocate of a boycott when someone does not attend regularly.

  • 223 low fell mag // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Listened to talk sport whilst we were playing Villa yesterday. The coverage of our game was the feature game for talksport live from Villa Park .
    The man covering our game was a certain Mr Durham, who does not hold back and I was dreading as to what crap and spiel he could hit Newcastle with.
    To my amazement at the final whistle he was commenting on Ben Arfa.
    His words were as follows, When you watch Ben Arfa on the TV you can tell he is a good player with plenty of tricks. When you watch him live on the football pitch as I have today , He is a not a good player ,but a great player ,simply outstanding !
    So for the 1 or 2 knockers of Ben Arfa on this site who don’t rate him as a great player, try going to a game

  • 224 bills-son // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Mister Tuff @ 220

    I’m splitting my sides…

    That’a about as funny as a wet fart in a spacesuit 🙂

  • 225 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    I hate all this “better supporter” horse sh*t . If I could I would go to every NUFC game home & away but it is not feasibly possible both financially or logistically for most people.

    The kind of fans I don’t respect are the ones who pick a team based solely on the fact that they are successful
    ( bearing in mind my best mate is a Man U fan) . And even worse than that they move on to another team when theirs stop winning things .

  • 226 Wandering Geordie // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    My 1st game was 71 against Liverpool and in the old West Stand.Was a season ticket holder right up to 2000.Been to the likes of Bastia,Kiev,Bilbao,etc.Now residing 6.700 miles away in Peru. Still fanatical about the Toon and proud.

    I for one welcome fan’s whoever and where ever they are from( Even have some here in Lima.)After all we are known as the Toon army/In my opinion the more fan base we have in the world the better.

    What I cant stand is the ones on here that rant on about how many games this and where were you born etc….Follow the lads as we are one.

    As for going to the games Id love to but Its a few bob to get back…

  • 227 check the toastie // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    The players we now have at the club are fantastic and who is to thank for putting the recruitment policy in place, if we have the 7th best squad in the PL, is this above average in our modern history, I would say so, and if Fat Mike is clearing debt to sell us on to some billionaire at some point, is this good?

    I would say that the club is in pretty much the best shape its ever been in and in 5 years time we might just be thankful for what we currently have. We can turn up on Saturday looking forward to seeing a team of internationals pulling their puddings out for the shirt, only one man can ruin that and that is Parsnip with his stupid selections.

    It appears he has been told to change his defensive ways or face the chop, he has had no choice as JFK is reporting back to fatty and telling the truth, (unlike Del Boy) about why we are playing so shit, its funny how Pards excuses are drying up, and he appears to be just getting on with things a bit more.

    Could JFK actually have a role to play in why the team are intent this year on throwing the ball out to full backs and keeping it on the deck, radical idea but personally think the pressure of JFK has made Pardew wake up.

  • 228 ONLINE GUY // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    RuDDy / Ciaran

    Your never gonna shake off your old Nom De Ruddy

    I ain’t been on this ere blog for a while but I see you are still telling everyone how it should be according to the gospel of are ..well ..ever so slightly doing my head in , getting repetitive . you seem to jump on everyone that has an opinion that clashes with yours and then usually followed by some pi*s taking comment to said individual ..

    No doubt you are going to get very wordy with me in your reply and then spend a full day telling everyone on here with a smattering of Ruddy disease how right you are . and the little easily led group will go along with you,, joining in with barbed silliness ..Children….no sorry, thats an insult to children…but thats how it is Ruddy ..

    You seem to spend all your time on this blog night and day night and day night and day ..just to go overboard a tad there …I have the solution for you non Geordie individual that you are …..


    YOur attack on Billson at comment 67 is not good ..its another one of your attempts at Superiority ..followed by a Stupid comment to him …

    I bet your great fun at Party’s Ruddy.

    I also got to thinking if you have the solution for every Football related problem you seem to know the answer to everything.. why are you not working in Football ? either as an administrator or a football coach?

    .Dont really know much about handling players/ people in the real world Ruddy ? not good enough ?no experience? amazing you seem to know ALL the answers .

    I wont be here to reply to you ruddy plane leaves in 3 hours for Usa then on to west coast .. CA

    Get a Woman Ruddy, its a good cure for your superiority complex and hundreds of hours you put in on ere’ .

    I have nothing against you and enjoy a lot of what you write ..but please stop this Putting people in their place thing you have going on .

    Your wise enough to take a look at yourself so I will Go in the knowledge that when I arrive back you will be a changed man and will have taken heed and done just what I have instructed you to do Scream .

  • 229 Mister Tuff // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    bills -you bloody miserable so and so – wrote it ten minutes ago and am still doubled up with laughter.

  • 230 Ciaran // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Online Guy

    Concerns noted lad, maybe I’m just great at multi-tasking 😉

  • 231 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    We could do with Gaston Ramirez though. Chelsea have got the best squad. Arsenal need 3/4 new players. Man Utd need a complete reshuffle. That Belgium kid looked decent last night though.

  • 232 toonking // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    low fel mag
    even when I saw him on the TV yesterday night (was on a 60 mile cycle ride all day) he was excellent he seems to now be getting more consistant.
    I have to admit I was a bit of a critic to him myself but what I am thinking now is the selfishness he was lst season had just as much blame from the rest of the team.

    the differences now are he has atleast 1 CM in the middle whilst last year he was always by himself, also debuchy now doesn’t seem to be forward so much which again allows HBA to use the width better and also enables more players from the CM to get into the centre and finally we have now got a better player on the left so HBA will know that if his cross goes too far their is still good threats from the others side.

    cisse is the only weak link in our team.

    as for HBA himself I would say he is an excellent player but world class no.

  • 233 scout // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Man united need a reshuffle lol
    They walked the prem last year, lets see where they are last day of the season, top again. Easily

  • 234 kilcline // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM


    We need to sign the following to be able to compete in the future.


    I should be in charge of player recrutiment.

  • 235 ONLINE GUY // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Ruddy ..You seen right through me …G*T ! Chrissakes I cant get you to argue ..Im off ..I was hoping for a wicked debate with ya just to fill the time in next half hour…your cleverer than I thought ..Still got plenty spring in yer Arse Ruddy …You just put the fire out … Got to hand it to you ..clever.

  • 236 check the toastie // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    toonking – a 60 mile bike ride should only take you 3 hours max, you have obviously been on the pies……:)

  • 237 check the toastie // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    We should defo have got Victor Moses and Lukaku on loan, best bit of business of the transfer window them two steals. We should be first in the queue of deals like that, especially when Joe can pick up the phone to any manager he wants. Disappointing.

  • 238 check the toastie // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Going out for a 5 mile run, so see you lads in about 5 hours:)

  • 239 theartfuldodger // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Southampton looking better second half. They do have more than decent players who seem to turn on only against bigger teams.

    One more team frustrated by WestHam

  • 240 John Tudor // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    going to swim the channel im outta here

  • 241 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Haha those English players aren’t good enough for us. Ince is poor.If Paul wasn’t his dad, we wouldn’t even be mentioning him. We need world class players (i.e. Eriksen, Alderweireld). Personally, I think we’ll sign Siem De Jong, Gomis and a winger in january.

  • 242 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    You haven’t said a word about Ashley pretty much all summer and yet after a couple of wins your prasing him for the recruitment policy that has seen us relegated, almost relegated and thrown away a golden opportunity to push on. Bravo Check.

  • 243 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Going to Siberia on a magic carpet. Be back soon.

  • 244 scout // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Watching a greyhound on a treadmill is exercise enough for me

  • 245 kilcline // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Watching kets mum bounce up and down on me is enough exercise.

  • 246 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Don’t get personal please.

  • 247 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Looking forward to seeing Aly Cissokho at Liverpool. Brendan Rogers has completely transformed them. They were heading the wrong way under Dalgleish.

  • 248 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Interesting Kets, I personall thought they were heading very much in the right direction under Dalgleish.

  • 249 scout // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    If we beat hull Saturday it’s an immense start to the season, it’ll be a tough game. Bruce has got them playing some good stuff

  • 250 mattnufc // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    This blog is heading the wrong way with Kets.

  • 251 9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    JFA @248
    Surely you jest?????
    On past form (on an NUFC topic) Gomis in January can’t be very far short of a done deal already?

  • 252 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Gomis can hit that onion bag. Would be a good coup. Should’ve snapped up Mauro Zarate and Alderweireld though.

  • 253 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    You have lost what ever remaining credibility you had left with the “your not a true fan your bit from round here” bollox

    Complete idiot

    4 games into the season and your bosom buddy mikey boy is forgiven
    How many fans/players/ex players/pundits/ex managers/current manager have to continually publicly state were only 3-4 players off of seriously competing?
    Yet Ashley still doesn’t act
    The bloke has zero ambition, and you know as well as the rest of us he would of sold damn near every and any player if a club came in for big money and we all know it wouldn’t of been spent
    You say what other club would of held on when the could pocket an £8 mil profit, um how about Spurs Everton Wigan, all sold a top player all held out for a huge fee and guess what all replaced the player and then some

    Sadly judging by your argument stance today your only ambition seems to be its hunky dory as long as we’re doing better than the Mackems

  • 254 Jail for Ashley // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    No, I jest not, they were heading for midtable obscurity very much like ourselves which I thought was the right direction for them !

  • 255 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Why wait until January every time? Why not actually start a season with a full squad capable of competing for the full campaign?

    And what makes you think gomis is a given? He’s stated we pulled out of the deal over payments and wages and as of jan, OM, his preferred destination, can sign him on a pre contract

  • 256 DevonToon // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    5 hours late… but f##k a play off system! Its dumb enough in the championship… team who finishes highest after a long season has earned their place.. end off! Football does not need americanising!

  • 257 Uncertain Toon // Sep 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Is that Marcelino ripping off skysports as a studio analyst for Malaga game?
    I’ve seen it all now!

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