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Newcastle Have Had A Good Year In The Transfer Market

1:21 pm, Wednesday, September 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 134 Comments

When you look at the signings that have been made this year by Newcastle, and forget about the frustrations of not being able to bring in another striker over the summer, the acquisitions made by Newcastle have actually been very good, if the truth be told.

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Moussa Sissoko – has looked good for Newcastle

We started the year off badly when we lost Demba Ba to Chelsea for a rather measly fee of only £7M, and we made the same mistake we made when Andy Carroll left the club in January of 2011 – we didn’t replace him, and we struggled to score goals for the rest of the season.

But here  is the list of players we have brought in this year.

PlayerFeeClub
Mathieu Debuchy£5.5MLille
Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa£6.5MMontpelier
Yoan Gouffran£1.5MBordeaux
Massadio Haidara£2MNancy
Moussa Sissoko£2MTouolouse
Kevin Mbabu £1MServette
Olivier Kemen£0.4MMetz
Loic RemySeason loan - £2M QPR

The table includes a couple of youngsters we brought in – Kevin Mbabu and Olivier Kemen –  who are ones for the future.

But from the six Frenchmen we have brought into the first team squad,  four have become starters at the club – Mathieu Debuchy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Moussa Sissoko and Loic Remy – and when you bring in new players and they become starters, that’s a good indication that you have indeed strengthened the side.

And Yoan Gouffran has shown what a good player he can become at Newcastle, and if he doesn’t start,  he can always come on and score the winner, like  he did so brilliantly last Saturday at Villa Park.

And young Massadio Haidara has been missing this season, but he looked good in the first team earlier in the year, and he’s also one for the future.

The summer business wasn’t good, and we should have brought in Bafe Gomis, but the Loic Remy acquisition looks a great one now, and of course we couldn’t sign him permanently, because of the rape charge hanging over his head.

But if he is found not guilty  of that offense, we may be able to sign the French International striker permanently in January, but it could also be his trial is further delayed past January, and at the moment it’s scheduled to be held in November.

So while it was a very frustrating summer for Newcastle fans,  and there’s no doubt about that, we still have done well this year in the transfer market.

And if you believe the five senior players were brought in for £18M (Pardew says it was over £30M), and Loic Remy cost a £2M loan fee for the season, then the deals have all been very good – even if the five Frenchmen did cost around £30M.

And if they did cost £30M,  then we paid a lot more for Moussa and Yoan than shown in the table.

And with the uptick in form of the side, with three wins in a row,  things are starting to look up on Tyneside, and in short – that’s great!

What do you think?

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Tags: Kevin Mbabu · Loic Remy · Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa · Massadio Haidara · Mathieu Debuchy · Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target · Yoan Gouffran



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134 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Mark // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Repost:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Kinnear

    Someone’s been messing with Joe!

  • 2 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Lilongwe

    Stadium name and trophies are not synonymous though. I think they’ve adopted their new home and love it. Times change…virtually every club is playing at a different ground to the one they started in. Didn’t Everton play at Anfield first?

  • 3 archaeomag // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    . . . And only 103 days till the window opens . . .

  • 4 Slank // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    What’s more important is the quality, not the money spent or quantity.

    Mathieu Debuchy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Moussa Sissoko, Loic Remy and Yoan Gouffran all look Premiership quality.

    This looks like very astute business. The only downside is that they are all French. Nothing wrong with French players but there is a limit.

  • 5 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Ok. I’m off now. Interesting to see that there are differing opinions on all of those topics. And good to see that the conversation wasn’t dragged down with petty insults and people failing to respect others’ opinions! :-)

  • 6 toonincheek // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    We have a significantly stronger squad than last year, so we can’t complain too much at our activity in the transfer market.

    I’m not too unhappy with not signing Gomis – I reckon we offered even more than he is worth, but it was only the agents demanding fees, and us being expected to pay, that scuppered the deal.

  • 7 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    TDS,
    Yes, but they have been told for years they can’t spend because of the new ground. That (and Wengers reluctance to spend last 2 years) has led to them losing ground.

    Geordie Rob,
    I wouldn’t want to bulldoze SJP and build flats, but the only way I see naming rights feasible for any club with a big history is by building a new stadium. I haven’t spoken to anyone that does want that to happen, hence my thoughts that you were aiming that at me following my response.

  • 8 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    A good year in the transfer market, perhaps but it could and should have been better, taking Ba and Perch into consideration it’s only about £10m spent, that that that matters but as we have just been debating on the previuos thread another striker and left sided midfielder would even with 2/3 injuries still allow Pardew to keep the same tactics which were so effective against Villa, as it stands when it comes to the front 3 we only have Gouffran who is good enough to slot in and allow us to keep the same format, so as I said it could have been a lot better year in the market.

  • 9 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    LG

    your spot on m8, I have a m8 who is a Man City supporter, changing from Eastlands to Etihad made no difference to him or the majority of City fans as there was very little attachment to the name, it’s the same with the flat pack Stadium of Light, if that was changed would they be that much bothered, probably not, but if they were still at Roker Park and they we to rename that stadium then there would be hell on, St James’ Park as with Anfield, Old Trafford, Villa Park, Hillsborough and hundreds of other grounds have so much history associated with that name that they should always leave the name as it is.

  • 10 Slank // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie @ 7

    What is possibly more interesting than the debate about renaming the stadium is about renaming the club. The new owners of Hull have broken through almost a taboo by renaming their club.

    Although the new owners of Cardiff City have denied that they will rename the club Cardiff City Dragons, which also happens to be the name of a gay amateur team in the city, they have however changed the colour of the home kit from blue to red and altering the badge, adding a dragon and making the traditional bluebird less prominent.

    Looks like we have got away lightly.

  • 11 Rooster // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Yea players have been bought, we need these players to fully step up to the plate though!!!

    Two wrongs don’t make a right and that last Window was a sham from start to finish and made fools out of all us fans, I have been in the pro MA camp for a long time, stability and financiality, I still feel is very important, but I have to add the fact that I am now hovering around the take it or leave it concerning him and Pardew n JK they really done a job on us fans in the summer, they knew they were not bringing anyone in but tried to patter us up with one over the line every week, and how we needed this one and that one, knowing full well it was most probably the winter window when we will go after a couple, im still really peed at them for that act of despicable dishonesty, not to far fetched in those words in my opinion either.

  • 12 MacToon // Sep 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Strange how some people can make themselves the centre of attention and believe they have the answer to each and every point raised on here and more infuriating believe because they shout loudest and longest theirs is the only opinion that counts.
    I agree with WW that the blog is stale but for very different reasons.

  • 13 wynsleap // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Spoof @ 9
    Did your mate tell you what the City fans’ reaction was to the name change of the stadium from Maine Road which had been the ground for 80 years? Just interested.

  • 14 scottoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Hey Lads! Bit of a shout out to a couple of posters who contacted me with info about accommodations and things to do in Newcastle. Excited to say that my family and I are making our first ever trip to the Toon over Christmas – looking to get to the Stoke match on the 26th and the Arse on the 28th. Anyone with advice about securing tickets – please let me know. Also…where to go (family friendly – son 14 and daughter 12) before the match for some atmosphere and a good pint.

    HOWAY THE LADS!

  • 15 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Slank,
    Hull City were nicknamed the Tigers though weren’t they, which is why I think the owner felt it was acceptable to do so. I see a small semblance of flawed logic in there. I doubt Hull fans like it, and to me it makes it sound to much like a crappy American sports franchise.

    Cardiff fans aren’t complaining so much after splashing a fair bit of cash this summer. How closely correlated it is though who knows.

    I don’t think we got off lightly. The only plus point is no one wanting to actually be the company to take advantage of it, other than Mike. But it does show that the Fat controller has competition for the title of ‘the worst owner’ out there.

  • 16 WWSBRD // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    MacToon
    Oh u cheeky mate calling out individuals?! Dems fighting words

  • 17 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Wynsleap,
    Maine Road wasn’t renamed. It was demolished…

  • 18 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    wyn

    they were not happy but a lot of them were philsophical about it, Maine Road was and had always been there home, they were hoping that redevelopement would be the way forward, but it would have been to costly so a new stadium was what was done, no different to what the Sunderland and Arsenal fans felt about their new stadiums, people by nature do not like change, but they do adapt as I’m sure we would if we ever moved to a new stadium.

  • 19 MacToon // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    WW :-) I know mate but it’s every friken day now for frikin hours, over and over….. ha ha Some people need to get a life ;-)

  • 20 daztoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    was pretty much a straight No on the naming rights from everyone and so it should be,didn`t see a any different opinions as some seem to do.

  • 21 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Hi Mactoon…You posted a list of the Ashley mishaps since he took over the club a little while back. Do you still have a copy?

  • 22 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    How does £18 million become £30 million???

    Now I’m no accountant, but thankfully there seem to be plenty on here ;) so are the club saying that the total fee for these players including tranfer fees, agents fees (that are extortionate as we all know) and wages cost the club £30 million???

    Or was more wool being pulled over the eye’s………….again?

  • 23 jimmysmith // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Was accused earlier on the blog of looking at the world through rose tinted glasses in reference to wanting Ashley to sell up and on the premise that what we had before was worse.

    Well for all their faults I don’t recall Shepherd and Hall renaming the ground, or sticking the logo of a loan shark on the famous old jersey, nor appointing Joe Fuggen Kinnear DOF. I do remember nearly winning the title though, making consecutive cup finals, beating Barcelona in the Champions league, bringing home a Geordie legend to wear the no 9 for a world record fee, along with Ginola, Robert, Ferdinand, Ferguson et al. and having a majestic stadium built to watch these great players in.

    But what has the past got to do with this ownership anyway, other than to highlight how hopelessly unambitious it us and how far we’ve fallen.

  • 24 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    JB,
    I’d say if wages and agents fees are to be included it will have been a fair bit more than just £30million. To be honest, we don’t know what the fees were as they were all undisclosed. Ed could be way off the mark, as could many of us. I think the Times (in an article in Feb) had it down that in transfer fees and agents fees we spent close to £33million (not including wages) so it is all just guesswork on everybody’s part.

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Jimmy,
    A lot of the good points were Sir John though. Shepherd made a mockery of Sir Bobby, appointed Souness, purchased Carl Cort, Boumsong, appointed Allardyce, had us sliding down the table faster than Aurora at Diamond’s Strip joint in town etc.

    Anyway, like you say, the past is irrelevant, could we do better now? The answer is a resounding yes. (We could also do worse, but better change and hope then not change and continue in our unambitious state.)

  • 26 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    Thats what I thought mate and thats why the £30 million doesn’t make any sense to me. I can understand the press being out by a few million either side of the reported figure but £12 million? I don’t buy that, neither do I buy into the fact that they all cost a combined £30 million

  • 27 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    JB,
    Yeah, something doesn’t add up. Unless they are all on incredibly low paid contracts, maybe Goofy and Haidara, but not Yanga, Debuchy or Sissoko I wouldn’t think.

  • 28 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    daztoon

    There was at least one yes that I saw mate and several possibles. Also interesting how some people would be less bothered about a new ground than a rename.

    I’m in the no camp, but sadly there may come a day when it would be necessary to compete in the PL.

  • 29 Munster Mag // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Ooops , looks like I pasted too much ! Sorry!

  • 30 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Lilongwe Geordie

    Perhaps they are all on zero hour contracts that Ashley seems so fond of and he only pays then for the hours that they train and play :D

  • 31 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Ok, so the £30M could be
    – £18M transfer fees
    – £8M wages in year 1 (around £30kpw average between 5 players)
    – £4M for agent’s fees, signing on fees etc.

    So that’s a £30M investment in a year. Not that hard to work out.

  • 32 MacToon // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Sorry Ibiza can’t lay my hands on them atm, will have a look later.

  • 33 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Cheers Mac :)

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    jack

    unless they just counted the wages for one year

    18mil transfer fess and 12 mil wages? makes more sense.

    say you have 5 lads on average of 30k a week…thats 1.5mil x5, 7.5 mil…then add agent fess…be there or there abouts.

  • 35 Munster Mag // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    TDS, are you the guy living in Croydonia, home of of Tesco ex Swan and Sugerloaf, or am I confusing you mate? By the way, Weatherspoons are talking about bringing about 50 pubs to Ireland. Lord save us!!

  • 36 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Probably right, but are they so desperate to be seen to be investing that they are now adding on the wages when they talk about how much they spend?

  • 37 Wiz // Sep 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Well, what I think, Ed, is that this breezily insane blog shows that you live thousands of miles away in time and space.

  • 38 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    munster

    nothing wrong with weatherspoons in terms of good variety of drinks and low prices, just kills other pubs.

    they had a decent atmosphere but never do much more, no live music, etc etc, just a plain, standard pub.

    Jack

    That could be it, just a guess mind you

    And on renaming the stadium issue. I don’t mind that if it brings in significant results to our on field play. If it gets us better players and it’s with a respectable brand I’m ok. Not ideal but seems to be the way a few are going (albeit with new stadiums).

    I don’t think anyone likes change but eventually people get used to it.

  • 39 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Munster Mag

    No idea what you mean mate so not me! Never lived in Croydon either.

    But it will be a sad day when Wetherspoons open up 50 pubs in Ireland…there are plenty of good pubs in Ireland already, why do you need to put in crappy Wetherspoons?!

  • 40 WWSBRD // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    MacToon
    Haha aye mate not wrong but am not one for getting into arguments ;)

  • 41 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    TS

    Wetherspoons pubs have no soul. In fact comparing a Wetherspoons pub to a proper pub is like comparing the way that MA is running our club to the way it was run under SJH!

  • 42 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    JB,
    Exactly. I don’t remember the club spending 25 million on Shearer, (transfer fee, wages, signing on, agents (guesstimate for example, before anyone says that 25mill is incorrect.)).

    I wonder whether the £30mill takes into account the fact they would have to print new shirts, use more ink when printing programs, cook extra food in the canteen. All these little things add up you know.

  • 43 daztoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    wow one yes makes for a range of different opinions.

    Selling the naming rights for many who like myself have been going to St James Park year after year as well as many generations of family is like selling your soul to the devil.
    I was lucky enough to see Ashley for what he is after the treatment of KK and haven’t been up since and won`t until the shite is removed.

  • 44 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    So if we have to include wages as being part of what has been spent, then how much have we saved on the wages and fee’s for Harper, Simpson, Ba and Perch, that’s £8.5m just on transfer fee’s, and if the wages are taken into account as soon as they sign their contracts then Krul, Cabaye, Tiote, BenArfa, Cisse, Santon and virtually every player at the club will not have their wages on this years accounts because they were accounted for when they signed their contracts, so when we see the accounts we should make £60/70/80m profit because all the wages apart from Remy and Kemen have already been accounted for, sorry I almost forgot that 1 or 2 of the kids got new contracts.
    Unless of course we are paying them twice, which would make this year a £30m spend and only a £13m operating profit for last season ?

  • 45 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    £30m spend, what a load of rubbish.

  • 46 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    You wonder why the club quoted £30M investment in January? It’s because so many football fans seem to be obsessed with the finances. They played Championship Manager and suddenly they think they are all clever about signing on fees, release clauses and sell-on fees…

    How many fans have referred to “the Carroll money” and then listed transfer fees for players we have signed and claimed that we still have some left.

    It’s pretty damn obvious that if you sell 1 player for £35M who was earning £1M a year then over 5 years that’s £40M. If the club then bought 2 players for £10M each and paid them £2M a year each then over 5 years that’s your £40M gone. The £20M transfer fees don’t mean that there’s still £15M left!

  • 47 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    I’m pretty sure that no other manager comes out and talks about the finances in regard to how much it cost the club INCLUDING WAGES.

    Please, please, please stop defending this rabble

  • 48 Nufc-83 // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Comments on this blog are awful at the minute, all i see is people concerning themselves with trying to figure out to the £ how much we have spent, how much Ashley has pocketed, how much sponsorship we have received etc. Lets just all forget it we have an Owner who will invest when he spots a bargain thats all there is to it christ.

  • 49 Ian Toon // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Ibiza- I have not been to any of their meetings. But a former flat mate has. The reality of your idea of a launch, according to a leading light named Rob, is for the toon to start losing football matches. They have
    targetted the period following away games at Everton and Cardiff.
    The mentality is one of wishing for us to be struggling and getting fans to anticipate a season like last; in order to be taken seriously as an action group(s). In the meantime they’re battling internally the egos.

    Your a bright guy am I painting a different picture or is it just the wish promoting the thought? As I see it, like last season when some called for Pardew to be sacked I saw it as only happening if we were relegated. I have no truck with a group who can only see success in recruiting fans to their cause if the team are embroiled in another
    relegation battle.
    Where is their mission statement ? What are their aims and objectives?
    Will Rob and others divide the fan base ? Only if we look destined for a bad season. What a thing to wish for- are they the same flip floppy types who were prepared to see us relegated inorder to get Pardew out.
    The toon army will never go over to the dark damp side. Some of the
    leading protagonists should follow the team on the road and observe the Ed mantra” support the team not the regime”.

  • 50 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    TDS

    yes it does m8, season tickets, merchandising, advertising and tv revenue are all used to pay for wages and other operating costs, so if you get £35m from transfers but then spend £20m then you do have £15m left, unless you believe that the club should be ran with player sales and all other revenue’s go to Mike Ashley.

  • 51 scottoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    I’m no accountant, but I think there is such a thing as capital expenditures vs operating expenditures. You don’t typically lump them together. A transfer fee is a capital expense and goes on a balance sheet. Wages are an operating expense that goes against revenue and appears on the Profit and Loss Statement. So in my view, any attempt to lump them together, as our club management has attempted to do, is smoke and mirrors. Don’t believe for a second that we spent 30 million.

  • 52 Toon-Prodigy // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Well the signings all depend on which way you look at it..

    Year to year or the actual times they were brought in. The timing was disgraceful. No forward planning or initiative, poor backing.

    Lets not forget the gambles MA has taken last summer and how it crippled our season up until January the the injuries we sustained. Then these five players were rushed in at once and Pardew had a hell of a task bedding them in through such a difficult situation in a relegation battle.

    Now we have just had a repeat situation where we have failed to give us the best possible scenario and chance possible to compete in the league. Zero backing again.

    So while you can look at a table from the signings we have made and think yeah thats not bad over a yearly timescale, it’s a far cry from the real picture and how the football club has struggled over the past year due to two things, a lack of forward planning and a lack of consideration.

    Basically, in a nutshell. Happy for mediocrity and to gamble just staying in the league with what we have. Even with shed loads of money from the Premier League.

    No where near good enough for this football club.

  • 53 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    TDS,
    “So many football fans seem to be obsessed with the finances”

    You talk about finances in nearly half your posts mate! :-)

    The reason NUFC fans discuss the ins and outs of our finances is because the club feel they need to justify not bringing players in because of the finances. We are, and have been reminded constantly about ‘financial stability’ or the benevolent loan of Ashley, or the fact that our commercial revenues aren’t sufficient so we need to sell naming rights, or the fact we need to go into an overdraft etc.

    If they want to paint the full picture, maybe they should also be deducting a increase of revenue due to new arrivals as well. And deducting the assets value to the club as well.

  • 54 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    JB

    Because no other owner has so many vocal fans who are that bothered about the damn finances!

    Fans weren’t so bothered about the finances when Shepherd and Douglas Hall took huge salaries for themselves, when they ran up huge debts and huge interest bills on those debts. Fans weren’t so bothered about the Shepherd’s and Halls making HUGE profits from running this club and then selling this club either.

    Yet a cockney takes over, stabilises the business side of the club, provides an interest free loan, hasn’t taken a penny out of the club other than to offset this loan and he’s the greedy b*st*rd???!

    I’m not saying that Ashley is the best owner in the world but some of you need to get a grip seriously.

    Check out the signings that we’ve made in the last few windows. Sure, we only got Remy on loan this summer and only got Anita last summer but we’ve also signed some crackers.

  • 55 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    tds

    yeh but weatherspoons have a good variety and a good price…if you want to just sit in with friends and have a few drinks it’s quite nice

    depends where you are, in my town its good as get a lot of people you know in so makes for a good night

    but old, traditional pubs..although have soul and history, can often be expensive, run down and not particularly good

  • 56 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Spoof

    You’re as daft as pie you are.

    This isn’t Championship Manager you know! Revenue is revenue, it doesn’t bloody matter where it comes from!

    If we sell a player on £1M a year and sign 2 players for a total of £4M a year, where do you think that extra £3M a year miraculously comes from? The money has to come from somewhere and that’s the club’s bank account.

  • 57 wolfshead@toon // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    ian

    all the pards haters have slunk back into the shadows i think they were mainly trolls making merry anyway

  • 58 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Sissoko and Gouffran were nearly out of contract, so their value was low, now they are on longer contracts their value on the balance sheet would be higher then the fee we paid, depreciating over their contract. At the minute, on the balance sheet the club would be in profit on them. Granted not realised unless they are sold, but we can make the fees and figures do what we want if we only want to tell part of the story, which is exactly what the club are doing.

  • 59 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Lilongwe

    Just addressing the inanity of some posts. I really would prefer to talk about the football…

    I think it all started with “the Carroll money” which drove me nuts.

    Every club in the PL has used money as a reason to not sign someone. Even Man Utd and Chelsea have talked about getting value for money.

  • 60 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    Check out the timing of the signings and you will see that they reactionary, not a way to run a club imo. Do you think that those players would have come in if we had been comfortable in mid table last January???

    We are not obsessed with the finances, but when lump wages in with transfer fee’s to exaggerate the amount spent it shows them up.

    I’m not bothered at all where Ashley comes from by the way as it’s irrelevant if he were from London, Germany or Outer Mongolia

  • 61 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Lilongwe

    Investment has been made in terms of cash spent. Investment is designed to boost the value of the asset. Players have valuations on the books but that money can’t be spent without actually selling them.

    MA is all about increasing the value of his assets. So yeah, £30M investment in 2013 has probably meant an addition to the assets of the club by at least the same amount. And obviously those assets allow us to bring in other revenue too.

  • 62 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    TS

    I’d rather sit at home with a few mates and even cheaper beer than sit in a Wetherspoons to be honest. But that’s just me…I don’t know anyone that goes there.

  • 63 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    TDS

    that’s exactly what I am saying, so why are you defending the figures, there is no way Alan Pardew or anyone from the club should be trying to fool us into thinking that we have invested £30m into the team, that is basically what he is trying to do and it is wrong, we have invested nearer to £10m when you take Ba and Perch into account, you just cannot add wages into it, anyway can we change the subject to football rather than money, I have just had an article published on Newsnow, Can Newcastle win the World Cup, could you give me your opinion, mind the editor has made one or two changes which I would have left, but never mind.

  • 64 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    JB

    I’m in total agreement that the signings were reactionary. I thought we should have signed MYM and Debuchy last summer, then maybe if we’d got one of the others in Jan and the other two plus Remy this Summer, plus either keeping or replacing Ba, then we’d all be happy. Now I know we didn’t actually do the latter, but you see what I mean?

  • 65 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    TDS,
    Value for money is very different than saying but we’d need an overdraft, or all the endless talk of financial stability.

    I will completely agree on the Carroll money issue though, that annoyed the hell out of me.

    I couldn’t really care less if we don’t spend much, as long as we get the right players in. If we have to spend a decent wedge to get the right players then we should also do that. We can make Ashley as rich as he likes for all I care as long as he gives us a competitive squad, that can vie for titles and entertaining football. So far, he has given us neither. Although Pards must have read my True Faith blog before the Villa game as he picked the exact tactics and players I said gave us the best chance of good footy and success this year, that’s a start!

  • 66 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    TDS/TS,
    Not a fan of Wetherspoons either. Give me Pumphreys, the Crown, the County, or Hotspur any day of of the week over the Mile Castle, a Lloyds bar or the one at Central Station!

  • 67 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    We will never have success or stability by being reactionary.

    I’m no fan of Pardew, don’t know if I’ve mentioned that before, but the guy is fighting a loosing battle while we are run this way

  • 68 89Norcal // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    I don’t think we’ve all that well at all!

    We have brought in good players for great money as usual, but they were long overdue! It’s like we try to build a Starting XI and to hell with the squad.

  • 69 Munster Mag // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Weatherspoons wont do well in Ireland thank goodness. TDS, dont mind the cockneye thing – now you sound like a journo abusing georgie fans for being insular. We had no issues with Barton, Rob Lee, Superman, Ferdinand etc. The cockneye thing is just something you are using to get at fans, some of whom have extreme views, some of whom have reasonable, and balanced views. Incidentally, we seem to be the only club that can sell Carroll, one of the biggest transfers in english football history, and then replace him with Ba, on a free, and make a song and dance of it. Put it this way, one can only wonder where we would be if we hadnt got that money. Beacuse right now, we are being lied to again about transfer interests, whilst being todl we need an overdraft to sign players!! Or put it another way, how come other, less wealthy clubs can spend fair money whilst we run to the hills screaming about agents, overdrafts, freebies etc??

  • 70 JackButler // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    I get the feeling that the accounts will be out soon so I’m off got a date to watch Mr. Joe Bonamassa, have a good evening lads

  • 71 89Norcal // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Munster Mag // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:48 PM
    how come other, less wealthy clubs can spend fair money whilst we run to the hills screaming about agents, overdrafts, freebies etc??
    _____
    Because it’s cutting into Mashley’s sausage roll fund.

  • 72 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Spoof,
    Incredibly harsh on Anita in that!! When he had a run of games last season he was MoM in more than half of them! He is the key that will allow Sissoko, Cabaye, Santon and Debuchy to be most effective. I don’t know enough of the Dutch squad or league to say he is capable of doing it for them, but in our set up he is a crucial piece unless we stop Santon and Debuchy pushing forward altogether.

  • 73 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Spoof

    I agree with the World Cup places mate. That’s why I have no problem that we sign players wanting to use us as a stepping stone. Cabaye now knows that if he wants a move to a CL team who want him as a starter and he wants to go to the World Cup then he better pull his finger out, get selected for France again and convince a CL team that he’s worth paying £20M+ for.

  • 74 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Lilongwe

    I’ve been listing the formation and tactics we played against Villa for as long as I can remember! Sure, I might have put Tiote in instead of Anita at some point but with 2 attacking full-backs and 3 midfielders capable of attacking and defending, it’s perfect.

    It’s going to take a monumental effort to ever challenge for a title again though, we’re just too far away from the top 6. You never know though…I’ll settle for some good football and winning both cups this year… :-)

  • 75 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    LG

    that was where the amendments made by the editor should have been left as I wrote it, it was clear that Anita was getting more praise than most, but the alterations stopped the fluidity of the article and took the impact away, what you are saying about Anita is basically what I was saying, but that was lost due to the editor breaking the article up to much, basically I only had five paragraphs, the introduction, defenders, midfielders, strikers and then the summing up, it is far to dis organised as it is and the Anita aspect comes over poorly

  • 76 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    JB

    I totally agree that our transfer activity has been poorly timed. There’s a balance to all of these views though. This summer wasn’t good but it certainly wasn’t horrendous. Imagine if we hadn’t signed anyone at all and then Ben Arfa and Cabaye had left on deadline day…that would have been horrendous…

    I gave it 4 out of 10 because I think we needed 2 players and only got 1 on loan.

  • 77 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Spoof,
    Fair enough mate. Other than that I think you have called it pretty well. Hopefully, the players respond and do their bit! Fortunately we don’t have anyone crucial enough to their country that we see a repeat of Owen out injured all year, but then gets himself fit for WC!

  • 78 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Hooray a article with a bit of sense – to me it has been a very good year for transfers.
    All the first team players we have brought are good enough to be in the team/squad.
    A couple of promising players for the future.
    AND most important point we have not lost any of our top players.

    Lets hope we can have a good run up to Christmas and hopefully buy a couple of quality players

  • 79 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    TDS,
    For me, putting Tiote in that style and trio weakens it immeasurably. Unless he has been watching and learning from Anita then he doesn’t allow us the same freedom of full backs. Anita covers, and while it doesn’t look spectacular to anyone watching it is crucial to the balance, positioning and set up of the team.

    I meant to say trophies, you are right, a title tilt is light years away, although it has been made further by the poor timing and judgement of those in charge of transfer dealings.

  • 80 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    And Durham look like becoming Cricket County champions again -pity about their captain being a Mackem

  • 81 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    TDS,
    Anita playing and covering also means that we needn’t rely on Jonas’ energy down the flanks as a means of covering for our marauding full back. This in turn allows us to play a 433 with Remy left to concentrate on attacking.

  • 82 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    LG
    As I said it should have only been 5 paragraph’s, this is the one about Anita

    In midfield we have a similar story, Cabaye has just had a big boot up his backside and although Sissoko seems at this stage to be a safe bet he still has to be on his toes, it’s a shame that Tiote is such a cast iron certainty as the need to force his way in is not there, but out of our entire squad the one who to me is the most intriguing is Vernon Anita, as far as the Dutch squad is concerned he was there or there abouts when he joined us but due to us having a poor season last season he has now dropped out of contention, the only reason he was in the Dutch squad was because he was neat and tidy in front of the Ajax defence which allowed the more accomplished players to strut their stuff, for us he has failed miserably to do what he did for Ajax, however from what we have witnessed of late Anita has been neat and tidy, nothing spectacular but Sissoko has been able from a deep position to run with power and pace which is what he is best at, Ben Arfa has benefited greatly and Cabaye has been allowed to play higher up the pitch which is where he is best, so far this season Anita has been the Anita who played for Ajax rather than the Anita who played for us last season, who is to say that with continued performances which we have seen of late will not allow him to be on that Brazilian bound plane, the added bonus is that Tiote may be assured of an Ivory Coast starting role, but can he force his way past Anita, so it appears as if Tiote may well have a big reason to really impress afterall.

    as you can see it is a totally different read, who need’s editor’s ?

  • 83 roy // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    A good result against Hull and the Mags are flying again.

  • 84 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Charlie

    That is great news, Durham have had a great year.

    TDS and others

    Finances aren’t just what Newcastle talk about. Man utd have been all over sky today about how they boosted this revenue and cut debt blah blah blah.

    I am not bothered about the transfer window now, it’s done. We can now just enjoy the football up until January when we can all get stressed and argue again.

  • 85 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Munster Mag

    Why can’t some people just admit that they don’t understand the accounts and believe some people who actually do? There are things that I don’t understand and others do and I’ll give them the credit for that.

    Consider the fact that Southampton and other teams have a much lower wage bill with some players still on championship wages. Also understand that in the last figures, our wage bill was high (67%)

    It is almost certainly true that this financial year we don’t have very much more money to spend due to the high wage bill and the decreased income from the PL last year (due to poor finish). We do have an extra £20M coming after the season but we don’t have it yet. So it’s perfectly plausible that we would have had to go into debt to pay for Gomis but that it would have been paid off at the end of the season

  • 86 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Lilongwe

    When Tiote is on fire though…

    Hopefully he will come back and do well for us. I’m happy with Anita for now though

  • 87 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Spoof,
    I have just compared them, completely different reads. I will leave you be on the virtues of Vurnon Anita though.

    Shola on the other hand is highly likely to go. Keshi sees him as an old experienced and calm head to help the younger stars coming through – similar to how a number of youngsters at NUFC have described Shola in the last few years. (Provided they get past Ethiopia!)

  • 88 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    TS

    I’m all for that mate. I just get peed off with the “Ashley Out” brigade bringing out financial issues to try to win points when they are just showing their ignorance. I don’t claim to know everything, but neither do I bring up those topics to try to win a point, I just respond to them and point out flaws.

  • 89 roy // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Sissoko was once valued at 22 million Remy 25 million and mbwia 13.5 million so NUFC have done some shrewd business.

  • 90 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Interesting contradiction that some fans have accused MA of not caring what the fans think with one breath and yet with another they are accusing him of never really meaning to sign Gomis or anyone else and that it was all for show?

    Why would a man who doesn’t care what people think do something like that?

  • 91 Ciaran // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    I wonder if he ever bores himself…

  • 92 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    TDS

    I don’t agree with us not bringing in a player but….

    When people say well this team or that team spent more than is why can’t we. The simple answer is we can. We just didn’t want to get into debt for it.

    Other teams either get into debt or have some sugar daddy fund the club. Every prem league club carries debt, none are running entirely in the black. Even man utd with their huge revenues.

    Football is a stupid business and hard to compare with a normal business. What we need to do is get like the German league where you have an average wage to turnover of 30% instead of the 60% in England so we can drop ticket prices, rely on academies more etc.

    The problem is the premier league is too separated from the FA and only care about profits and not the interest Of clubs and fans. Why would they change when fans are willing to pay over the odds to support a team they love, the league and owners exploit the loyalty of fans something rotten. (All clubs not just us)

  • 93 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    TDS,
    When Tiote is on fire, whilst superb in his own right, he is still a totally different player to Anita and doesn’t provide the full back cover that Anita does. So we would once again need a wide man who can cover Santon as he pushes on! Complete change of formation!!

  • 94 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    TDS

    On the whole Ashley accused of lying about signings.

    I think it’s the same as arsenal. They will get players if the deal is 100% in our favour but string fans along all summer to ensure season tixkets get bought. A few less would be sold if, after a bad year, we said we won’t sign anyone.

    For the record I think we did go for gomis, just couldn’t get him done as neither party was willing to go the extra mile.

  • 95 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    LG

    I would agree, Shola is a knocking bet to go, but trying to fit him into that article was not easy, hence the limited mention, there has been so much non football discussions on all blogs that I decided to do this as a break, back to football, and realistically the world cup could help, but as has already been mentioned could those who are certain to go slacken off the nearer we get to the season’s end, it could work both ways, but lets hope it is the positive response which we get.

  • 96 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Spoof

    World Cup years are always strange.

    Some players won’t move clubs in case they don’t get game time or settle well, especially in January.

    Some players want to move to get more game time, again especially in January.

    Some players work really hard to impress.

  • 97 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    TS

    I agree totally with those 2 posts apart from one inconsistency. I don’t think that either Arsenal or NUFC strung the fans along with regards to signings. I think they have both intended to make more signings than they did but the deals weren’t right so they didn’t happen.

    Sure they put a positive spin on things whenever possible, but don’t you think Pardew was banging on about getting a Remy, a Gomis and one other young promising player to compete for places? And I’m sure MA said go for it if the deals are right. But it just didn’t happen.

    MA would always be up for signing players if the deal is right because it increases the value of his assets PLUS it reduces the risk of his other assets being devalued due to relegation.

  • 98 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    From previous article – My main issue with the Club at the moment is lack of English players and believe me i know the pros and cons, i wish we would push for these players earlier to ensure we get them in!! Frustrating seeing other clubs around us picking up future internationals! we always had a spine of Englishmen in our team and now not 1 makes the starting 11

  • 99 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    TS

    hopefully we will do ok this season as we have so many who need to impress if they are to go to the finals, it may just be the extra motivation which they need to push us a few places higher up the league, time will tell I suppose

  • 100 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Stephen Keegan

    it would be great to have 11 Englishmen in the side, but are there enough Englishmen who are both good enough and within Ashley’s financial remit for us to sign, I don’t think there is so it has to be foreigners, personally I don’t have a problem with them, as long as they play well I don’t care where they are from

  • 101 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    TDS

    I don’t think they string us along with no intention of signing players but I think they are happy to keep rumours going even if talks aren’t going well to get excitement up.

    I think pardew was genuine when he said he wanted to bring in 2/4 players.

    I don’t think kinnear was right o say we will buy players to get us into the champions league over the coming years. 1. Because it won’t happen in my opinion and 2. Because it was a very vague statement, how many years..etc not given a genuine target

  • 102 Transfer Sage // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Keegan

    Yeh. Like arsenal go for Walcott and chamberlain. Man utd with jones and smalling. That type of deal.

    Problem is for the price you can get 4 seasoned internationals from elsewhere who offer more to the side.

    I’d like a lot more effort out into the academy to try and copy a Barcelona or Ajax model. Will take many years to get close to their levels but might as well try to mimick the best.

  • 103 ToonDarnSarf // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    TS

    “What I see in the long term is help to put together a squad to get this club back into the Champions League.”

    What’s wrong with that?

    People accuse the club of not having ambition and you slate JFK for holding the ambition that he wants to help build a squad good enough for the CL? We were one game away a couple of seasons ago, why can’t we have a storming season and get 4th at some point in the next few years?

  • 104 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Ian…Has your former flatmate attended the recent meetings or older ones?

    I obviously didn’t attend and have been working on limited information…maybe they can introduce a Skype conference call element to the meetings in future…just what they need…

    What’s this about targeting the team so that they start losing games? How is that possibly the target or is that what you feel will be the ultimate effect of their actions as the players would be distracted from performing?

    Once again, from what I understand they are merely seeking local authority approval for plans at the minute, which is why there is no direct plan in the public eye or a mission statement.

    I also understand that this isn’t just the “MAOC”, but a combination of groups forming “time4change”. I am yet to see whether that could mean offering an opportunity for Ashley to change or not.
    I have heard enough to afford them time to get their ducks in a line and I eagerly await to hear about their strategy. If it’s not something I agree with then I will say so.

    I will say at this stage I think it is dangerous to just ignore the issue. People are angry and to be completely honest, there is good reason for fans to be so. If we continue to ignore the issue I feel the situation will get out of hand and then will turn ugly and that benefits no one…except the papers no doubt. I will support a group that is trying to bring change in a thoughtful manner.

    As for will they try and divide the fan base…it already is. To what degree I have no idea. This is where my biggest anger with Ashley is. It is in his hands to bring more clarity and if it’s just that he doesn’t care or is so arrogant to think he doesn’t need to then he is the main culprit. There is no good reason for more communication…I should clarify…some meaningful communication, not the if’s, but’s and contradictions that have become NUFC.

    I understand that the intention is indeed to support the team. I will wait and see.

  • 105 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    I’m very happy with the signings. We just need another 4 first team signings. 1 CB, 1 winger, 1 Attacking midfielder and 1/2 strikers and we’d be a great team.

  • 106 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Sage/Keegan,
    Yeah, but Arsenal spent fortunes on both Walcott and the Ox, Smalling was just shy of £8mill and Jones was about £15million! Add Zaha £12million and you are having a laugh if any of them are worth paying that kind of cash for!! I’m all for bringing in Englishmen, but not at those prices. Their are rough diamonds to be found, but you have to look hard and move quick. Neither seem to be traits of this regime!

  • 107 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Surely looking to the lower leagues we would be able to find some decent talent at reasonable prices, players like Ince, Hughes, Bennet, Lacelles, Redmond a year or so ago would have been good value for money and already increased in price, surely with the rate of inflation on English players there is profit to be made there if that is Ashley only intention in transfer matters? Do we have a scouting system in the UK or is our full focus on the European market!

  • 108 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Sage,
    I agree, develop our own. But that means improving the coaching staff, and we failed to do that this summer. That has been the cornerstone of the MA blueprint and why initially I was happy to give him a chance. But he is failing to deliver on it at the moment. According to an article written by Mark Douglas in the Journal, despite rumours that Category 1 status has been given to the club earlier in the summer, we still haven’t actually been classified as category 1.

  • 109 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Clyne 2.5m Debuchy 5.5m
    Caulker 7.5 M’biwa 6.5m

    There is deals out there

    Thuvain 12.5m or Ince 7-8m

  • 110 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    TDSarf @104…Can you not see that it’s simply a case of no one having any faith left? The majority shared your view point and were genuinely excited again about the direction we were heading in that 5th placed finish. But since then….

    It’s really down to the club now to get things back on track.

    You say “We were one game away a couple of seasons ago, why can’t we have a storming season and get 4th at some point in the next few years?”

    We can, but what will follow? As I say, it’s really down to the powers that be to try and sort this one out. An attitude of we don’t care wont achieve that.

  • 111 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Stephen

    those players you mention would cost a minimum of £6/7m, look at Ince at Blackpool, Hughes at Derby, Byram at Leeds and Alli at the MK Dons, their clubs are all asking for £6m and much more in some cases, Ben Arfa £5.5, Tiote £3.5m, Cabaye £4.5m, if their passport says British there asking price trebles, it’s crazy money

  • 112 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Ibiza

    it was yourself @104, have you forgotten to take your tablets again ?

  • 113 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Spoof i do agree with you but when we are buying players like debuchy for 6m? why not buy a young Englishman for the same price, going to be worth a hell of a lot more in years to come if this inflation continues?

  • 114 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    keegan,
    Harford was reportedly being recruited to head up our UK scouting system. Redmond was still cheap this year, 2.5mill.

    Maguire would have been good at centre back, reports valued him at between 2-4million. Long as keeper cover, Adili of MK Dons, Clayton at Crewe, Byram, Dier at Sorting Lisbon, Ismail at Wolves. If we want to really show ambition go after Jack Harper, a young Scotsman plying his trade as a youth player in Spain for Real Madrid. There are plenty there but they are all still rough diamonds.

    Same goes for Hughes, Ince, Zaha but they have had a fewmore column inches written about them so value is higher, plus Ince is called Ince.

    Dale Jennings, now back at Barnsley following 2 years where he suffered serious injuries, went on a free from Tranmere to Bayern Munich without even registering a passing interest from the Prem. Sadly, he damaged cruciate ligaments and lost a lot of pace, one of the skillful wingers key attributes.

  • 115 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Spoof… It would seem so…

    Make that @103 then :)

  • 116 Spoof // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Stephen

    the problem is there are very few really good youngsters about, thats probably why they cost so much, so most go to Man U, Arsenal etc because they are the only clubs who are prepared to take that gamble, take Alli for example, apparently MK Dons value him in the region of £6m+, yes he might prove to be a bargain at that price, he might be the next Gareth Bale, but would you rather go for him ahead of an established player who happens to be French, or whatever nationality, it would be great to get both, but we have Mike Ashley so that just won’t happen, you use Debuchy as an example, Byram at Leeds would cost more than him, that’s ludicrous

  • 117 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    So then…something cheerier…

    Hull…should be easy enough, right?

  • 118 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    I wasn’t ever dreaming about the Smalling, Jones, Rodwell, Walcott deals out there like Sage suggested i firmly understand Ashleys transfer objectives! just wanted to see what other peoples opinions regarding the situation are. I don’t believe this notion about all English players being more expensive its just a question of timing in my eyes!! Anyone seen much of Jammall Lacelles at Notts forest looks like a tidy CB

  • 119 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Keegan,
    Cause Debuchy is a full international and has played on some of the biggest stages. Byram/Clyne is a young kid that prior to any move hasn’t/hadn’t done any more than play Championship. Managers don’t have the time to take chances on developing a young kid and bringing him through. They need ready made players.

  • 120 GeordieTwo // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/reported-ashley-cut-backroom-staff-blocked-any-new-additions-as-well-as-no-player-signings/
    So Mike the buffoon is now laying off staff? He’s only worth 2.3 billion pounds or so but he has to heap misery on a few more decent people? Well done Mike, that’s another 500K or so saved that you can use for a big pissup with the other 2 stooges.

  • 121 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Stephen..Timing is crucial with the Ashley method. If we’re too easily priced out of the market, then we need to take the risks on players when they’re younger.

    It wont always work out, but no risk no reward.

  • 122 GeordieTwo // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Mike Ashley. What a class act. I can hardly wait to hear what the next move is Mike. Another pissup on the yacht? Maybe have the other 2 stooges over and celebrate laying off some staff? You are a real winner Mike. I’m sure your ex wife could tell us some stories.

  • 123 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    English right backs aren’t as good as Debuchy. I rate Micah Richards but don’t know what’s happened to him. In my opinion, he’s the english right back. Fast, strong and accurate.

  • 124 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Evening lads!

    alot of news about nothing today I see :)

  • 125 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Kets is unbelievable whats happened to Micah i had big hopes for him but didn’t seem to be able to materialize! you think he would have been better off at a different club?

  • 126 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Jesper…Nothing? Nothing? How can you possibly say that? :)

  • 127 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    G2…I wouldn’t believe that mate. Just take a look at the official site…jobs for everybody!

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Club/Jobs

  • 128 GeordieTwo // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Oooooh Ibiza mate. Nine kitchen jobs available. I’m sure the wage is very fair knowing Mike. He’s such a fair and honest man. We all know that. Let’s ask Kevin Keegan about him again. And we’re stuck with him. The biggest loser ever to become a billionaire? Probably not. Many of the people who become billionaires are ruthless scum like Mikey.

  • 129 Pokat // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    If true Geordietwo, that Mag article backs up what I have been saying about the Ashley approach to Nufc business. Its percentages and still looking for a way out. No spending while he is owed money. No loans as there is no requirement for ambition. Tread water until he can sell us on and he can get back to turning over faster money. Any talk about getting him to give one about us is absolutely futile. Its not pessimism its the reality. Cutbacks in the media dept makes absolute sense as he has no desire or requirement to communicate.

    I had a Toondarnsarf waving his sparkly pink fairy dust wand over Mikes rep lol what a load of flannel. He’s a predatory opportunist just deal with it stop sugaring it up like we mean something to him. And do us a favour, the devil doesn’t want or need a spokesman ha ha.

  • 130 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    He should sign for Man Utd. They could do with a right back. I think Man Utd need a left midfielder, holding midfielder, playmaker, right back and centre back.

  • 131 Stephen Keegan // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    If it was a personal Chef job i would take it on a zero hour contract, bound to be constantly working, bet he is always eating, the Fat Ba#*ard haha

  • 132 GeordieTwo // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Spot on Pokat @129. Predatory opportunist. That describes Mikey perfectly.

  • 133 Ibizatoon // Sep 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    G2…I sense sarcasm :)

  • 134 GeordieTwo // Sep 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Yes anything about Ashley from me that isn’t negative is sarcasm Ibiza mate. I see no redeeming features for the man. A reptile at best.




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