Ben Arfa Will Not Be Leaving Newcastle – Here’s Why


Kieron Dyer played for Newcastle from the summer of 1999, when he was signed by Ruud Gullit from Ipswich Town for £6M, and he played until the summer of 2007, when he joined West Ham United, again for £6M, and Kieron played in a total of 250 games for the club and scored 36 goals.

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Kieron Dyer – when he was at Newcastle

And Kieron has been interviewed in the Metro today and has talked about one of Newcastle’s best players, Hatem Ben Arfa, and he says there is a danger that Ben Arfa could leave Newcastle in January:

“If Hatem plays to his capabilities then there’s no better place to play football because the fans at Newcastle are amazing.” ‘But most players want to play Champions League football or European football – because that’s the highest level you can be at for your club.”

“If clubs come in that play in Europe then it’s going to be very hard for Newcastle to keep him.’ ‘He’s been unfortunate with injuries and I don’t think he’s got consistency yet,.”  “I think he’s been sensational so far this season and he’s a player who can change a game in an instant.”  

“I was with Adel Taarabt for two years at QPR and Hatem is the same type of player. He’s just got to get the consistency and he’ll move up to the next level.’

We think Ben Arfa is a much better player than Taarabt, and the Frenchman is also a much more experienced player at the higher levels of football.

And notice there are a lot of ifs in what Kieron says, and we think Newcastle owner Mike Ashley will do exactly what he did with Yohan Cabaye in the summer, and stick a big fee  – maybe as  much as £25M – on the head of Newcastle’s mercurial winger, and it helps that Ben Arfa has said he wants to become a Newcastle legend.

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Ben Arfa – going nowhere

Of course it’s always possible that a really big club like Manchester United may come along, but if they want to get Ben Arfa, they will need to cough up some really  big money.

We don’t think Ben Arfa is going anywhere, and it could be he will be offered a new and improved long-term contract before the end of the year.

What do you think?

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98 comments so far

  • Wiz

    Sep 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #1

    Of course Ben Arfa will be sold. So will Cabaye, who will be sold in January. So were Gascoigne, Waddle, Beardsley, Supermac, and every other uncrocked player we have ever had. That is the kind of club we are. We have to sell to buy, because otherwise we go into the red. Or was that all cobblers?

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  • Ciaran

    Sep 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #2

    Afternoon chaps. Haven’t been about much in the last few days, just been sorting out the move to the Toon, finally settled in.

    The NUFC Daily should be back to churning out articles again now that I am settled (I know a lot of people were panicking about the lack of activity) so there is no need to worry! 😀

    Of course you all know how you can follow the blog, click on my name, or go to http://www.nufcdaily.wordpress.com or follow the nufcdailyblog on twitter!

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  • Charlietoon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #3

    He’ll have one more season with us, his best of course, and then someone will pay stupid money for him

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #4

    What a load of Horsep*ss. Dyer must be sticking the Columbian marching powder in his face again, comparing HBA to Taarabt. Thats a bit like saying a Moris Minor is as good a Buggati Veyron.

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  • martoon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #5

    Ciaran I Hope you are settling in to Gods country OK – you even brought some good weather with you 🙂
    Are you in student land or somewhere posher?

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  • roy

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #6

    Every player has his price at any club. Hence Bale, RVP, Torres, Ronaldo, etc all left big clubs for big clubs.

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  • Harley

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #7

    Ciaran

    Should you really be peddling your blog constantly on here. If I was ed I’d be pretty damned annoyed.

    I think it’s insulting.

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  • bobby mango

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #8

    Shocked Dyer got that many appearances for us. He always seemed injured!
    Will be happy is HBA plays that many for us, can see him being tempted away before that.

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  • Spoof

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #9

    The problem we have is that Benny only has this seaon and 1 other left on his contract, so if we don’t get him signed and quickly then the chances are he will be sold in the summer at a knock down price or run his contract down and leave on a free the following summer, if anyone believes we are in a position to demand big bucks then they are mis-taken, we need him signed and we need it done now, or we will lose out spectacularly.

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  • bishopblaize

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #10

    Wiz:
    Thats sounds spot on about selling to buy BUT i personally dont think Ashley will replace our Best unless he knows we have someone proven to fall in line at the right price.
    Its the Wages that must give his head the biggest shake and .. That would be on any bosses mind regardless of the industry (apart from bankers and stocks n shares etc with their out of reach bonuses)
    What ever the issues everyone on here has with Kinnear, its nice to see Pardew out of the office and working with the lads on the pitch.
    He did say last year he was spliting himself into 2 which reflected in play.
    Just hope we can keep up the momentum and smash Hull for the points and make up on that Goal Difference that always is a let down in comparison.
    hWtL
    Last week Villa was a massive test for us .. Fans were there, players pulled it and everyones a winner 🙂

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  • Pokat

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #11

    Kieron Dyer. Meh. Wasted talent imo, As far as EVERY player wanting CL, he was more concerned about riding around in his hummer with the spinners and throwing wads of cash around the clubs with his pals Jermaine and Titus. Fantastic player on his day, sadly didn’t fancy too many days.

    Yeah Ciaran is trying his best to muscle in on Ed’s massive Ad revenue, maybe we should help plug his blog, if he becomes a billionaire Blogmeister he could buy the club off Ashley 🙂

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Sep 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #12

    God how did we get 6 million back off West Ham for Dyer!?!?Just goes to show English players have always been overpriced eh !?!?

    Choking for Saturday Anita better start and we better smash Hull by about 2 or 3 nil we have the players to do it

    Cisse as well for me should get this game to score and then Leeds and if he is still shite then put Gouffran in his place

    Liverpool are without Coutinho now for our game so its time to even the scores up with a home win against them in a few weeks

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #13

    Anybody who reads my posts will know I try to stay away from controversy, but I believe Mike Ashlkey and his efforts to ruin our club is killing this blog !

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #14

    *Ashley and are killing

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #15

    alcohol and football development bollox 2 words
    ………………………………………………..
    george best

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #16

    another two words
    andy capp

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  • VanToonMan

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #17

    Santon are we playing at Anfield or are they coming to us?

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  • Ciaran

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #18

    Harley

    If you have an issue raise it with Ed, whatever he decides to do is up to him. Simply one NUFC fan using a well established network in an attempt to get a leg up. Don’t see the problem.

    Pokat

    That’s the plan! World domination….ahem I mean, the betterment of our club!

    Martoon

    Settling in perfectly well thanks lad! I’m in Heaton, in a street just off Chillingham Road lad. It’s pretty nice I must admit. Meeting a few blog lads for a pint on Saturday 😀

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  • Ciaran

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #19

    Back off out for another while lads, my mother is insistent on buying me food, so who am I to disagree? haha

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  • toon kk

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Comment #20

    Its Mashleys game plan/ business to sell players for as much profit as he can and buy so called bargains or not buy to save what he can. We’re just a business to him so EVERY player has a price.
    What MA forgets due to his lack of quality signings we don’t play as well, don’t get as many wins therefore knocking the value of every player.

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #21

    24 ninth ave

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  • MacToon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Comment #22

    Jail, more like the Ashley apologists 😉

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Comment #23

    @Vantoon man

    We have them at St James’s I am sure

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  • Wiz

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #24

    bishopblaize – Ashley is not only relaxed about not being competitive on payment of wages, he is determined not to be competitive. This is the thrill for Ashley. He doesn’t buy players, and he doesn’t pay them much, and it’s a gambling thrill for the fat lad. If we stay up, well, brilliant, and if we flirt with relegation he can put it right in the January window. It will be interesting to see, if we have a top ten placing at the end of December and an injury-free few months up to then, whether all talk of investment disappears, on the basis that we will probably not have any injuries in the final three months. Toon KK, Ashley hasn’t sold too many players, but he knows what he’s doing, all right. His blind spot is on player quality. He cannot see that spending a lot more on a single player can really be justified, however talented that player might be.

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #25

    swansea thumping valencia

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #26

    Wiz,
    The likes of Bills and Slank like to point out that we are not a selling club as only Caroll and Enrique have been sold, we’ll forget about Milner,Bassong, Given, Martins, Duff, Nzogbia and Demba Ba, but the fact remains Pardew has been ordered to put our players constantly in the shop window with his ‘vunerable’ spiel then has the temerity to claim that he is being hard done by when an offer does come in, the only reason we haven’t sold is because nobody apart from Lpool have matched his extraordinary asking prices.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #27

    Mac,
    TDsarf has killed the blog 😉

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #28

    a few more have helped him hahah…….

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #29

    how can ashley improve on the squad we have if he wont spend very logical mr lardy arse

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  • MacToon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #30

    Aye jail, we should chat while we have a chance lol and I meant “apologist” before.. singular 😉

    The protest at Valencia was class, empty stand at the start of the second half!

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  • MacToon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #31

    EVENING CHRONICLE BLOG by Brian Hall

    I am cutting straight to the chase here
    The football club which matters so much to the people of this city, and so many in this region, has been treated with utter contempt by the current owner, Mister Michael Ashley.
    Since a bairn of 6, thrown into the deep end at the Leazes End in the 60s, I have learnt, like so many others, to enjoy the many highs of life with NUFC, and to take quite a few lows as well, on that black and white journey. No room to list them in this small piece, obviously.
    One thing is for sure though. I ,for one, have never seen anything like what I have been currently witnessing since the arrival of this owner from the Deep South into toon. The old Viz comic could not have written it all, as people would have thought that the Donald brothers were going way over the top into total fantasy.
    It is not worth even going into some of the shambolic, absurd goings-on in recent years at times. This summer alone just sums it up. Joe Kinnear returns with a ridiculous bang, the manager hopes for back-up to a squad which narrowly missed relegation last year, the owner himself keeps his monk-like Vow of Silence, and the club ends up on the transfer deadline day bottom of the Premiership spending league table.
    The strategy, if there is one, that is, seems to be – hope and pray for no injuries or suspension to a very decent 12 or 13 players. Continue to assume that the Geordie natives will just be as loyal as they always have been. If that is Plan A, the mind boggles what Plan B is – unless I have missed something, football does tend to involve injuries and suspensions!
    This time, though, I think something is in the air. The huge numbers of people – who see this club as so much part of their lives, their city, their very culture – have finally, finally, had enough of being pushed up against the wall, and treated with total disdain by the regime up at our black and white cathedral high on the hill. Maybe that is just part of my blind optimistic side coming out. Who knows?
    All know, of course, that against a background of absurd and insulting events – an endless list which includes Kevin Keegan being stabbed in the back, Alan Shearer simply disregarded, a period when St James Park itself was renamed, and so on – many groups have fought back admirably to attempt to speak up against this Ashley regime.
    I confess to one sin. Although I was always with such moves, in spirit, to defend our club, part of our city’s very soul, from the onslaughts against our pride and identity, I have not been as active as I should have been in trying to help those initiatives.
    However, this summer, I decided to walk. First, to the Labour Club in town, to a very well attended big meeting. I also put on my shoes the other week to see the birth of the Time For Change movement itself. Their aim is to bring all together for one very big push to bring this shambolic Ashley administration to its end.
    Their first initiative is in October, when a peaceful march, with plenty of media coverage, will assemble before the Liverpool game.
    I, for one, am happy to be a foot soldier on that walk, and put my shoes on again. To join all those who are saying Enough is Enough.
    This club is far, far more than just a toy to be played with – it is part of our North East culture itself, and I feel, in my humble opinion, it is Time to Say Goodbye to Mister Ashley.

    Brian Hall

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  • mikeashleyisamackem

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #32

    dont be rediculous brian lets see what happens in january and judge them come may,if we have not improved from last season and at least attemp to challange the top 6 this year ,dont buy a season ticket next year ,only way ashley will sell up is he cant put bums on seats but that will never happen as you have the die hards who go week in week out always have always will ,marching around in peacefull protest is like pissing in the wind mate

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  • mikeashleyisamackem

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #33

    infact you have got more chance that some fanatic fan will end up knifeing ashley if he keeps going on like a petulent school boy ,he doesnt like us geordies we upset him with death threats etc and he has a couple a billion in the bank ,why would he give a flying uck that newcastle have not signed anybody when he loves to hear us moan ,worst case scenario for ashley is he sells up if ever needs the money if not him and his best pal levy at spurs laugh about us

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #34

    i know where id love to put my shoes but then again size 12 doc marten steel toe capper

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #35

    three or four program jets launched his way

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  • check the toastie

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Comment #36

    We could be 3rd by Saturday night, keep whingeing lads.

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  • bills-son

    Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #37

    Jail,

    The only reason why players haven’t been sold is because clubs won’t pay Ashley’s stupid prices????

    Seriously – can you not see how ridiculous that statement is?

    If Ashley was the buy em cheap and sell for a profit turnover merchant you accuse him of being he wouldn’t put stupid prices on their heads. He just sell them for a decent profit · period. After all, they could get injured, lose form, clubs might target other up and coming players etc, etc, etc.

    Ashley could have trousered £30M-£40M profit at least by selling Krul, Colo, Cabaye, Santon, HBA, Cisse and Tiote over the last three to four windows and he hasn’t sold one.

    This nonsense that it is only because he puts stupid prices on their heads leavex you in no mans land. Criticism for the sake of criticism and nowt else.

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 19, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #38

    mickashleyisamackem@ 32 dont be ridiuulous. Aahley has has 6 years to prove himself, what makes you think he will change now- now that is ridiculous, i’m with brian all the way.

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 19, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Comment #39

    sorry for the spelling -didnt have my specs on hahaha

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  • martoon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #40

    mikeashleyisamackem – I have no idea what Ashley’s thinking on NUFC is but to start talking about knifing him and claiming he does things simply to upset Geordies is ridiculous.
    If he simply wanted to upset us why didn’t he sell all our best players in the transfer window, sack Pardew and bring in Tony Pulis as manager 🙂

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