FA Chairman’s Blast At Newcastle


The new FA Chairman Greg Dyke has made it a priority that he somehow gets more English players playing in the Premier League,  and he has already criticized the policies of both Newcastle and Sunderland, for recruiting too many players from the continent.

greg dyke FA Chairman

Greg Dyke – new FA Chairman

But Greg got some support last week from the Premier League clubs, who agreed to work with the FA to get more players into their teams, and earlier this week Chelsea manager Joe Mourinho said he would be happy to sit down with the FA, and help English football in any way he can.

However, Dyke has already blasted the two big north-east clubs for not playing enough  English players in their sides:

“Sunderland’s first game of the season against Fulham there were only four players on the pitch at the start of the game who were actually qualified to play for England.

“Mind you in the Newcastle team beaten 4-0 by Manchester City on that same opening weekend it was even worse – there was only one English player in their starting line-up.”

We agree it’s a bit of a dilemma that not many English players are playing in the top English league, but there are different ways of looking at why that’s the case.

Dyke’s view is that it’s because too many players are coming in from abroad and preventing Englishmen from getting a  game.

But another view is that it means the English players must improve,  because they are currently not good enough, and the new St George’s Park facility is the FA’s national football center on a 330-acre  site at Burton upon Trent in Staffordshire.

The facility was opened last October, and all coaching and development will be undertaken there by the FA, for all the England national football teams at the different levels.

That’s a good approach, and once we make our young English players better than they are today, we should see more of them playing in the Premier League.

Well that’s at least one viable approach to getting more English players participating in the Premier League.

It might even work.

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149 comments so far

  • Mackems are from MORDOR!

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #1

    Shut up Dyke, English players lack in creativity what they ooze in inflated cost.

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #2

    I’m sure we just covered this topic on the last thread, albeit from a quote from Keegan. If English clubs charged realistic fees for players with nothing more than potential, this problem would not exist. We need the FA to get more involved in the transfer system, and base feed for English players on bonuses related to their development, rather than sticking a £10M price tag on a 16 year old with 3 decent performances to their name.

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #3

    fees, not feed… doh

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #4

    all fa’s ruling has done and will continue to do is up the price of all english players !

    we now have a bale who is def not the worlds best footballer yet he’s english and is not the worlds most expensive!
    we have ince a championship player never tested in a big league now valued at 11 mil
    hughes from darby again prob an avg young english player with a value of 10mil

    when you can pretty much take your pick of foriegn players for 1/2 of that fee with more pedigree.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #5

    The rules about home grown players apply to the squad not the starting eleven.

    Shut up Dyke.

    If the English players were good enough they’d be playing.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #6

    Croftus unfortunately Bale’s Welsh.

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  • NoBigi

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #7

    That is such bullsh*t. Its not Newcastle or Sunderlands fault that we don’t have any english players its man city, chelsea, tottenham, liverpool etc you pay ludicrous prices for players. If you have to splash 20 mill to get ashley young, jordan henderson or stuart downing you have to be a club with more money than sense! Dont blame newcastle for getting cabaye for 4.5mil – blame the billionaire clubs for making it unfeasble for us to get anything else!

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  • bollance

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #8

    We are not breaking the rule, this is his problem he needs to deal with.

    It would be great to have have more English and especially Geordies on the pitch. I believe against Aston villa we brought on Sammy so we had one English born player playing at some point.

    Until the rules change, we should pick our strongest side which presently is made up of all foreigners.

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  • NoBigi

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #9

    @G – seriously you cannot blame clubs (esp lower league) for putting up the prices on their players. They dont dictate value the people paying the money do

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #10

    Perhaps the FA would have been happier if instead of signing Sissoko for a couple of million, we could have spent quadruple that amount on Lee Cattermole? Usual FA guff, talking from the wrong end of the digestive tract.

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #11

    @6 hattem

    good point i should have halved his value yet again 🙂
    i did word it wrong should have said homegrown.

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #12

    @9, yes they do dictate the prices, however, asside from 4 or 5 clubs with billionaire owners, who can afford them. Clubs always price their players based on what Chelsea or Citeh pay. Fair enough to them, but, that’s where the damage is being done to the English players. It’s not only the lower league clubs who are responsible for this, and there is a bigger picture based on what is happening in English football as a whole, however, the FA need to get involved more with transfers and mediate the fees involved.

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  • JAMSHA

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #13

    Greg Dyke give us 100mil an we should get some english players in our squad…. we dnt have the finance to pay 20mil for a 16-21 yr old player

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  • croftus5678

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #14

    take away the ruling and value of “british” (winks at hattem) players will drop ! then get something in place to improve the acadamy’s in england if your that bothered about english players.

    i honestly wouldnt even mind getting some foriegn coaches in to improve our aspect of the game.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #15

    England only need 22 players, of them around 17-18 will actually play in a tournament.

    We’ve been let down by tactics, picking favourites instead of in form players, individual errors and poor penalty taking.

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  • toonincheek

    Sep 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #16

    When the influx of foreign-born players started, the argumnent was that it would increase the standard of the league and give British players the chance to play against the best and improve their game.

    When there is so much money at stake as long as you stay in the PL, you can’t blame clubs for taking the best option for them.
    It’s all within the rules.

    I trust the FA will at least insist on the FFP rules being followed and give NUFC proper credit for observing them.

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #17

    QPR are doing well in the championship.
    So we will be after a striker again next summer once they are promoted and remy goes back.

    Knowing us, we will go for Bargain Gomis instead of someone who can play on left of a front three.

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #18

    I think Greg Dyke, Glen Hoddle who has mentioned the same rubbish and Rio Ferdinand another advocate of this stupid and brainless idea of Foreign players harming the national team, what about the 70’s and 80’s when I believe most teams had at least 8 English starters every week…..what was the reason for England’s failure then? The bottom line is that our young lads have no technique whatsoever, foreigners can actually string together more than 5 passes (look at our current national team) even teams like Macedonia and Liechtenstein have players who are more comfortable with the ball at their feet (pass and move), unlike our over paid and massively over hyped English players. All the Foreign players have done is eradicate the dross we had in our leagues, grass root changes required to move forward not playing rubbish English players every week because they are English. Just look at Belgium national team

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  • Slank

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #19

    As far as I know we have not yet left the EU and therefore all EU citizens are free to work in any other EU country. Perhaps Dyke has forgotten this.

    Our starting eleven against Villa had two (non EU) foreigners – Cisse and Colo.

    I believe Dyke is trying to deflect criticism away from the fact that previous (post 66) and current players and English managers (except Sir Bobby) were not up to the grade.

    France’s Clairefontaine training centre opened in 1988 whereas England’s training centre opened in 2012. Perhaps if the FA had opened its training centre 24 years earlier then we may have had some good English players.

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  • roy

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #20

    Dyke, should have a pop at the top four their teams are full of foreign players. Why should NUFC, pay 9 million for the likes of Tom Ince, who is unproven in the premier league. When they can pick up the likes of HBA, Cabaye, Sissoko, Mbwia, Remy all established internationals for much less.

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  • Harley

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #21

    There’s a huge difference between the foreign imports we have signed and the ones Sunderland have.
    Most of ours are full internationals for major countries. You just can’t compare the two.

    Oh and by the way, our only English player that day was probably our worst performer.

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  • Slatymag

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #22

    Can’t have it both ways – Premier League a major global attraction with billions of pounds pumped into it from all kinds of sources thus attracting players, managers, viewers from abroad. They’ve helped create this monster but the truth is you can’t have your cake and eat it.

    Had this conversation the other day. I’ll probably get shot down for this but my argument was that since the inception of the premier league I’d much rather have been entertained by the likes of Ginola, Cantona, Henry, Bergkamp, Zola, etc than have a boring spectacle of mediocre players and the chance that England MIGHT, just MIGHT do something once every Euro or World Cup comes around.

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  • HullMag6

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #23

    We at one time or another have had the best and worst of young english talent on our books.

    The best: James Milner – top youngster as he was developing cleaner living applied himself purely to his development as a footballer unquestionable talent and work ethic one of the biggest losses to the club.. He let his football do the talking

    The worst: Ranger – victim of ego, hangers on and the demi celebrity status. If he’d applied himself in the mould of Milner we may have had another future England striker on our hands instead he’s devided to be a plastic gangster and waste his god giventalent

    The challenge IS for english lads to stand up and apply themselves and make themselves worthy of those price tags. Boozing should come after you’ve made it not while distracting your development.

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  • roy

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #24

    The coaching at youth level in England, is woeful Keegan, knows the score he himself through sheer determination transformed himself from a lower league nobody into one the finest players in the world twice European player of the year.

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #25

    Slatymag @ 22. Nail on the head there mate. Prior to the inception of the Prem, who was in the England side? Past his best Gary Lineker, and Carlton bloody Palmer! If we think England are poor now, we should remember some of those post Italy 90 squads.

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  • Goodfella

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #26

    When was the last time an England manager came to SJP to watch a game anyway I’m sure when Capello was manager he never attended a single match, anywhere north of Manchester is a different country to them! 😉

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #27

    Interesting stat on SSN the other day,can’t remember the exact figures but i’m somewhere in the ball park.England has about 1,200 A license coaches,Germany has about 5,500 A license coaches and Spain has 12,000+ A license coaches.Say’s it all really.

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #28

    @27, are those figures accurate? That is a horrendous stat, but believable. Half of the people running clubs these days are not even qualified. Like you said already, says it all really.

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  • Slatymag

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #29

    @G

    Yip, England weren’t threatening to win anything for the last 40 years so why all this bemoaning about how foreigners are ruining our game. Rose tinted spectacles at the FA concerning our past?

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #30

    Didn’t even Glen Roeder have to have special permission to manage us, as he wasn’t qualifed to run the club? Even though he had previously managed West Hams academy, West Hams first Team, Gillingham etc. Should force coaches to take the course first, then allow them to manage only once they have the relevant qualification. Otherwise I suppose it’s a bit like letting learner drivers out on the roads on their own.

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  • Stephen Keegan

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #31

    I bought this up in conversation yesterday, It is not fact that every British player is more expensive than there Foreign counterpart, that’s rubbish, its about timing of purchases and the correct scouting network in the lower leagues!!
    Clyne 2.5m
    Redmond 2.5m
    Caulker 7.5m
    Ince 6-7m

    Bargains in my eyes for the quality and age, and even potential re-sale value if that’s all Ashley gives a monkeys about!

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  • G

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #32

    @31, fair comments, however, Ince was priced at £8M plus add ons and sell ons. I would have used that one as an excellent example of how clubs should sell players, however, the move to Cardiff fell through. Redmond was only that price because the selling club was in the financial clarts, otherwise I suspect they would have held out for a huge figure.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #33

    What a load of nonsense, what on earth have the FAdone for Newcastle United that means we should stunt our teams development by buying and playing English players of a lower standard, or equal standard but much higher costs??

    When a player gets injured playing for England do the FA cover the entirety of his wages or of his treatment for the period of his injury? Do they cover the cost of the increased insurance premiums?

    Why should English clubs look to English players when the FA have appointed foreign coaches for the majority of this century so far? Why don’t they appoint young hungry English coaches?

    What incentives do the FA put out there to encourage more coaches, England has 1 licensed coach to 812 registered players. Compare that to Spain, 1:17, France 1:96 and Germany 1:135. What is being done to address this?

    As for his blast on Newcastle, we used the highest number of players to have featured for the club at academy level in competitive fixtures last season.

    We would all love to have more English players playing and coming through, but until the FA puts it own house in order then they should keep stum. It needs to focus and improve structures at pre club level, alter the games/rules and matches played by kids under 14 so it is less based on winning, more based on technical skills , the basics, and here is one for you, fun!

    Improve coaching and game play at Under 14’s, and then gradually impress similar coaching and structural improvements throughout the academies and clubs. It is a 15-20 year project to have a complete structural overhaul. Will Dyke have the conkers to do it? No chance. He will do as we always do in these times of youth improvement. Stick a band aid on a broken limb and hope it holds till his tenure is over.

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  • GenralHez

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #34

    The english players would make it to the first teams if they were good enough the current crop of so called internationals and the manager are not up to standard.

    Coaching from age 7 upwards need a complete revamp, the FA should have a team of coaches that attend schools to teach the teachers and pupils the skills needed. Look at the system in Spain.
    The England’s football training centre will help to develope the best of the crop that come through the school system, but the clubs themselves need to make sure that they do their bit by bringing on the talant they have in their accadamies. Look at Ayax.
    Dykes needs to work on all of these areas as well as sorting out the cheating by players with their diving and holding.

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  • Slank

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #35

    Stephen Keegan @ 31

    Your argument excludes the comparison between untried English players and full internationals from other EU countries for the same / similar money .

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  • GenralHez

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #36

    Should be Ajax

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #37

    Not the same article that was on SSN but even more shocking i think.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18680785

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  • Spoof

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #38

    In all aspects of life you will always try to get the best possible quality for a price which is affordable, we do that when buying houses and cars, we even do that in a supermarket, so why should football clubs be any different, and if the value is abroad then that is where they will go.

    There are very few talented English players, which is why they are so expensive, and who is to blame for that, many people are but non more so than the FA for their failure to bring adequate coaching skills to the English game, the German, French, Dutch, Spanish and now even the Belgian coaching is far superior which is why they produce better players, so rather than criticise clubs he should look at the organisation which he represents and change it from their.

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  • Stephen Keegan

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #39

    Slank???

    Asier Illarramendi 29m
    Isco 30m
    Florian Thauvin 15m

    internationals???

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 19, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #40

    Keegan,
    Caulker and Ince are not bargains at those prices! They are gambles. They may become worth that, they may not. Half of Ince’s price is due to his name. He has done nothing more than a £4million player. I agree their are bargains to be had, but given most managers get a year to 2 years to succeed before being binned where is the incentive to buy players who aren’t the finished article?

    Once they are the finished article, and often before (Zaha), they are so hype by the press and public that their value is way too high. Zaha cost more than Dutch title winner, Danish international, Champions league experienced Christian Eriksen.

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