What’s Wrong With Papiss Cisse?

Papiss Cisse wasn’t in the game much yesterday,  and he did get a chance in the first half from a cross, but somehow he didn’t even get his head to the ball, but that’s the way it’s been this season for the Senegal striker,  who has now gone 10 games for Newcastle without scoring a goal.

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Papiss Cisse – what’s wrong with this player?

But we were not short of goals yesterday,  and Loic Remy had two fine goals  in the first half that had Newcastle 2-1 up at half-time,  but a woeful second half display by the Newcastle defense allowed  another two poor goals,  and we went down to a defeat in a game that most fans expected us to win rather easily.

Alan Pardew had warned Cisse before the game that he needed to get in among the goals in the next two games, and a week on Monday  at Everton we could see a front three of Ben Arfa, Remy and  Gouffran,   since that could be our best attacking option at the moment.

Cisse seems to be completely lacking in confidence these days, and when he was replaced by Sylvain Marveaux after 73 minutes with the scores  level at 2-2 yesterday,  it seemed almost a relief to Cisse that he was being replaced.

Confidence is a big thing to a striker,  to any player, so Alan Pardew needs to find a way to get Papiss back playing like he can play, because we are already short of a striker at the club,  because we didn’t get the job done this summer in the transfer market.

On Wednesday night against Leeds United we will probably see Sammy Ameobi and Yoan Gouffran start the game up front, and maybe Cisse will   be played so he can try to get a goal, which will give him some confidence for the game at Everton on the following Monday night.

Cisse is a good player, and he has already proved he can score goals in the Premier League, so we hope the lad can get his confidence back, because we need him scoring the goals for Newcastle this season.

What do you think?

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32 comments so far

  • archaeomag

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #1

    It’s the Curse of W@nga . . .

  • cestriasteve

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #2


    If we persist with these 2 Full backs then we need to support from Midfield , Anita had too much to do yesterday Tiote needs to play with a 5 man midfield versus Everton .

  • Whoarya.com

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #3

    Costs thrives on confidence and having a pop so it’s a numbers game and he just needs love and support.

  • cestriasteve

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #4

    There was a point in the game when somebody, think it may have been Santon was clearly going to cross the ball and you could just see Cisse reacting late and missing the header.

    He has an inability to read the game.

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #5

    Repost from last

    Big Yanga was unfortunately at fault for 2 of the goals I seen yesterday. For 1 he played behind the back line by about 2 yards keeping everyone onside and was found wanting for another he committed himself to ground far too early TWICE, before Hull scored. He had his off day but I still believe that this kid is for the top of the game and we got beat by team who both wanted it more and played better as a unit.

    We were far too cocky yesterday and it looked like the lads expected all 3 points without having to do much for it… they seemed to be believing their own hype for much of the game. I still think this was a game that we should have won but credit were it is due for Hull, they came with a game plan and they executed it well… the 3rd goal was god enough to win any game, nothing could be done about that. Anyway these things happen from time to time. The lads pride must be hurt and hopefully this will bode well against Leeds and we select a STRONG side to at least try and progress through the cup.

    It’s over now and most of us are probably thinking that we will decline again but lets stick by the team the way we have been doing this season and try to kick on again, blips and poor games happen.

    Onwards and Upwards to Leeds. HWTL’s

    On a side note… how did Remy miss that 90th minute chance on the form he is in… words fail me, but what a player overall in recent weeks!

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #6

    He was played on the right wing for half a season, came off when Shola went on or went back to the wing, plays in a team that rarely creates chances in the box for him and a manager who has left him chasing shaows upfront for dozens of games being isolated up front.

    Yes, the rest of his game should be better, but in my opinion he has been worn down through dour defensive negativity and wrong positional play by our manager.

    His poor form is a by-product of the manager’s inability to formulate a positive attacking threat with him as the focal point over a continuous amount of games.

    Until I see the lad have regularly quality chances served to him, I can’t put too much blame on him.

    Goalscorers need quality service inside the box, regularly. He doesn’t get that.

  • Harley

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #7

    Remy, goufran and HBA need to be our front 3 until we can get to the next transfer window.

    Cisse has been useless for over a year now!

  • cestriasteve

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #8

    Krul, from my seat at the edge of level 7 it came at him too quickly, I reckon a Remy in a couple of weeks would have definitely scored I think he still lacks a bit of sharpness, very good player.

    We had a lot of balls into players with their backs to goal who couldn’t then do anything with it, what I’ve seen of that Gomis fella he could turn a player, we struggle to do that.

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #9

    I think that if Cisse is dropped as a consequence of poor form and given cameo’s over the coming weeks allowing him to watch the other players playing together from the sidelines then this could improve him… baby steps and we should look to capitalise with a decent quota of forwards before injuries strike. The harsh reality of it is that we have never really had the luxury to drop him until now. If he wants it back it’s there for the taking, deep down I am questioning his hunger for the game at the moment – ability is not in the equation as we have seen over the past almost 2 seasons!

  • Spuggy

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #10

    Debuchy and Cisse are big weaknesses atm.

    HBA didn’t look interested yesterday either, although he was heavily marked out the game. But then you have to use the space that creates. Offered little defensively when needed.

    We don’t seem to play as a team – few one twos and simple football. Rediculous shots from range. Lack of runs.

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #11

    It’s been a tough few months for Cisse.
    Lots of distractions off the pitch, that must be affecting him.

    He does look unlikely to score, but he always scored the unlikely ones.

    Some of his strikes with the outside of his boot are things of beauty.
    He just needs one to fly in.
    Hopefully against Leeds.

    I don’t think we can afford to carry him for many more games.
    I’d have dropped him v Hull.
    20 minutes as a sub until we see energetic performances and he scores a couple.

  • nico

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #12

    Hull had 8 English, 2 Irish in their starting line up.

    They were a better team than us.

    Who said there were no decent English players anymore??

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #13


    I really wanted Gomis, contrary to what a few on here were saying. We don’t really have that explosive power that he brings on the pitch with the exception of Sissoko. We need it up front to bully defences, we have not got anyone that can exert themselves physically on centre halves and push them about. I haven’t seen a good centre forward/centre half dual in recent years since big Andy went, he bullied everyone, when you have that option it opens up all sorts of plays/tactics.

    As for Remy, I haven’t been this excited about a player at the Toon since god knows… probably Robert’s signing… to think he has another couple of gears to get through before he hits top form is potentially frightening given how easily he has settled in such a short space of time… hopefully he will be unplayable when at full fitness!

  • Colo-Sus

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #14

    He is poor full stop, his first season was luck in my view, a mixture of defenders not knowing his game and a lot of lucky instinctive finishes….I’d sell him. Remy central gouffran left in my view. Debuchy needs dropping as well. Dummett lb santon rb, he is socking in defence and offers little going forward. Simpson was more solid.

  • Colo-Sus

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #15

    Spuggy, spot on

  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #16

    so ppl on here still say it’s because Cisse was played RW last season thats why he doesn’t score anymore?

    what a load of horse sh!t, it’s football, Cisse is just plain lazy and what we used to call back in the old days baby line, that’s all he does baby lines, he doesn’t get stuck in into tackles, he offers no support what’s so ever, he doesn’t track back, i know he’s an poacher but guess what so is berbatov & Van persie and they seem to do more.

    Cisse shouldn’t wear the number 9 shirt, it’s a disgrace to the legacy of the number 9 shirt.

  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #17

    Krul To Be Kind

    really another poacher!

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #18

    Ease up on the fullbacks lads when you have 2 full on attacking widemen like HBA and Remy your fullbacks are gonna suffer, I’ve been impressed of late by the resurgence in Debuchy and thought he was improving every game but without the support from the wide players then the fullbacks are easy targets. Something to work on in the next game is communication. If we play with 3 in the middle (with the more central cm pushed further on then the left of the 3 needs to cover leftback when he bombs on and vice versa on the right. This is something which believe it or not Tiote is incredibly good at. If we are to play this 433, which I am all for 100%, then we need to work on the fullback’s defensive side of the game and instil discipline into them as they aren’t needed so much going forward with 2 dedicated attacking widemen.

  • cestriasteve

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #19

    Krill, if the fans fall in love with Remy I think he could be a very very big player for us, me and our kid definitely thought he is short though.

    Someone on a previous thread said he reminds them of Thierry Henry, I don’t think he is that good but I think he could be a very good player, strangely he doesn’t look that quick but he is a very very quick player.

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #20

    Black and white

    are you saying Gomis is a poacher?

  • geordiemark

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #21

    id drop cissie altogether id not even bench him he needs to get his head sorted out but then again the team should be making decent chances for the lad to score, second game cabaye was rubbish id drop him as well and both full backs do we have enough players to fill in for them doubt it because our owner hasnt signed anyone alarm bells are ringing mr ashley already

  • Krul To Be Kind

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #22


    I agree with the Henry comparisons, there was something about the way he celebrated when I seen him from behind he just had the demeanor of Henry and you can see the similarities in his style, I’m certainly not claiming he is as good but the signs are very uncanny, he most likely models his game on Henry’s.

  • scout

    Sep 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #23

    Playing to be away in my opinion

  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 22, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #24

    Krul To Be Kind

    Gomis is a poacher, but he does offer more than Cisse which could be an improvement, but imo we need either another advance forward like Gouffran or a deep lying forward

  • toonbrother

    Sep 22, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #25

    That’s right. Papis Cisse is the reason we conceded 3 goals at home to Hull.

  • Jackson1989

    Sep 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #26

    drop cisses hes piss poor, start gouffy in the center or the left side, hopefully if newcastle are smart try trade cisse to anzhi for L troare if they stil want to do the deal, we would be miles better off

  • Rooster

    Sep 22, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #27

    Strange situation, our full backs are i feel failed wingers therefore not clever at defending, they are a weak link, Colo good footballer painfully slow, Mbiwa prown to lapses of concentration, dosnt make for great defending, MA JK may be smilimg n they nay be saving bit but we have no consistancy. Teams always make chances against us always, we cant put in 90 mins for toffee, oh Cisse is a parcel.

  • The next Mike Williamson

    Sep 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #28

    If we get Gomis we will only play one tactic. Hoofball. Like we did when we had Ba

  • Brutooon

    Sep 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #29

    1) Cisse got no competition. he scores or not, he perform or not, he will START week in week out

    2) Other strikers are either too old (Shola Ameobi) or too young (Campbell). AP look Gouffron as a winger than a striker

    3) He is not a target man.

  • welshgeordie9

    Sep 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #30

    Will cisse be here in January if he doesn’t score many goals.

  • laserfireball

    Sep 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #31

    I went to the game yesterday, don’t get to as many as I’d like as it’s a fair old journey for me. What I will say I noticed is that, yes, there were too many poor performances from the players yesterday and yes cisse does look poor at the moment. But what I noticed most of all was the lack of noise and support from the home crowd, very quiet and very negative to the team. How is this going to help?? The home crowd was easily drowned out by the away support, which, quite frankly put our support to shame. Rather than get on the players backs and the managers back, let’s start doing our bit right then if they still play c**p we can moan about it AFTER the game knowing we at least did our bit.

  • posada

    Sep 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #32

    Cisse does not have a position in a 4-3-3 set up.
    Cannot play the wide roles in a front three probably because he is not quick enough.
    The central role in attack. Think Drogba as the best at this. He was quick, posed a threat in behind, big, held the ball up, link up play and one touch game was good. All qualities that Cisse does not have.
    Cisse can’t read the game. He has one remarkable ability. On form he can finnish and score wonderful goals. The hardest thing in the game. But, if you cannot create the chances for him he is essentailly a man off as he was yesterday.


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