It Was Quiet In The Dressing Room – No Kidding


Newcastle’s best player on Saturday was Loic Remy, who scored his first two goals for Newcastle, but that wasn’t enough unfortunately, and Newcastle shockingly went down 3-2 to Hull City at St. James’ Park, and that after we had won our  previous two league games.

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Loic Remy – first two Newcastle goals

It reminded us a bit of the 2-1 defeat three years ago against Hull, in the first game after Kevin Keegan had left the club, and it followed an International break.

Loic was pleased with his two goals, but not with the result, and he said the dressing room was quiet after the game – no kidding.

“I’m happy with my goals but the most important thing is to win the game and we didn’t do that. We made too many mistakes and that was why we lost.”

“We are very disappointed because at home it is important we win for the fans and for the confidence. We didn’t do that and that’s why the gaffer spoke to everyone afterwards to say we have to win at home.”

“It was quiet in the dressing room, it was the first game we have lost at home. Everyone knows we can deliver and win at home.”

“When we conceded the first goal we stopped playing, made mistakes, made wrong passes, so I don’t know why that happened. We have to change that.”

And not only that, but we had looked a very good side before we surprisingly conceded that first goal, but goals change games, and it certainly did on Saturday.

Consistency is what Newcastle need now, as Alan Pardew pointed out after the game, and we cannot afford to lose at home to sides like  Hull City – that’s the type of game we have to win this season, if we are going to do well.

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38 comments so far

  • HAZZY1

    Sep 23, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #1

    toonking same speak soon keep the faith support the team until we die nite m8

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  • Toon Tang

    Sep 23, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #2

    remy kept his side of the bargain, shame the defense didn’t.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Sep 23, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #3

    On onto the Americans now. Banged an american 4 days ago in a hotel room. It took just one drink to get her back to her hotel.

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  • Shot Bru

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Comment #4

    What else does anyone expect..We have a team packed full of average players and a couple who are awesome on their day

    Risk avoidant, tactically unsure and uninventive manager and coaching staff…

    Mid to lower table outfit…

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  • Sydney Toon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #5

    Consistency is key for our squad right now, unfortunately we have a number of French players, although technically gifted and great players, need to develop a strong mentality. The only 2 players I see that have that mentality is Sissokho and Cabaye. The best French import I have seen play with great consistency is Viera.
    Like I have been saying for a while now, consistent football is what our overall football program requires. There has to be a time when young English players will become available at a reasonable fee, however we are not the only side in the PL that needs English players, so we are pinning our hopes on Bigi, Gosling, Campbell, Sammy and one or two to come through. However, a lot of the young English talent available and are playing first team football are either over-priced, over-rated or not ready for PL. For example:

    Tom Ince – Last valuation was around 6-8m. Has yet to play PL football but is a starting U-21 England Player. The pedigree is where the price tag is. His father was not only a super player, his mentality was what set him apart from others. Overall, Tom Ince’s valuation would be 6m with perhaps a few add ons, with it rising should he help B’pool to promotion.

    Sam Byram – Recent rumours put him at 5m. Has been a mainstay for Leeds backline for 2 seasons now and is a regular U-21 player. Given Clyne went to Southampton for 5m, and experts say Byram is the better package, then his value is about spot on, perhaps will rise to 6m. Put this in perspective with what we paid for Debuchy (5m), we are buying a player who could either swim or sink in the PL but with time will become another stellar RB for England with the stocks high already in Johnson, Richards, Walker, Clyne.

    Harry Maguire – Has been on the League 1 for a couple of seasons, started playing against men at 18 but has not taken a backwards step. His quality has yet to be truly tested, which is why his value is only around 2m. I think he will move to a Championship club before the PL. However, he displays courage better than most at his age and his good on the ball. A PL club may pick him up in January but I predict he will go to a CH team before moving to the PL. We already have Streete who now needs to have game time, which he would have got if not for the broken leg.

    Will Hughes – This kids is the best of the lower league bunch in my opinion. There are not many CM midfielders at 18 can command the game as this kids does, hence why his rumoured price tag was around 10-12m. Inflated, I’m not so sure. English CM stocks are incredibly low in terms of youth coming through. After Brazil, who will replace Lampard, Gerrard, Barry, Parker with Wilshire the only notable CM player who will be the future English captain. Back on Hughes, he will be stronger for the tough season with Derby, and this one will be tough again. His range of passing, with one expert I recall said he is Lampard and Gerrard mixed together. The excitement around this player is that he consistently outshone other players in every match he played and can score a goal or two. I think 10m with add ons is the best way to go, with Arsenal, Newcastle and likely Liverpool along with possibly Everton or Swansea coming along for the bidding war.

    Other notable mentions, in Barkley, Mutch, Redmond, Ward-Prowse, Shaw and Sterling are already in the PL with the standouts being, well all of them. Sterling is already a full international but is still very raw, even Oxlade Chamberlain still needs time, which I will get to in a moment.

    With the Ox, he is not getting game time and will struggle now because of the arrival of Ozil and the form of others, plus it seems that Wenger has more star players in mind for January, with Suarez again to be targeted. Which in lies Ox’s issue, with the World Cup coming up and his raw pace and quality he will need a club that is A) high profiled enough to be recognised and B) has the ability to put him in 1st team action. I see Newcastle, Everton and West Ham wanting him to come on loan in January. Why not get the kid on loan and play him at LW, move Remy up front leaving the strongest bench EVER seen at this club. Pardew will never have a squad like this one, imagine having Elliott, Saylor, Sammy, Marveux, Guti, Tiote, Cisse on the bench and being able to call on Dummett, Shola, Gouffran, Obertan, Gosling, Bigi, Good, Streete, Williamson, Raylor, Tavernier if required.
    When you break things down, not only is our squad strong enough and depth is actually better than most, add a player like Ox or Ayew, we actually have a swag of options with a core group of young players coming through the ranks. I can see where JK, AP are coming from where this season, we only need one addition to really complete the squad. If a star player goes, we replace them with the funds we get. Our squad has never looked this complete, we see teams buying players, but do they have the quality in depth we have??

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  • Sydney Toon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #6

    Kets
    From recent experience, it only takes telling an Aussie girl that they are beautiful and you get them in your room for a week ;0) plus access to the mini-bar

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    Comment #7

    ST, it seems to me we are at best one year away from what you outline and only if the young players we already have do in fact move up to the next level and in addition to our first choice 11 gelling and finding some consistency. You might be overestimating the potential of the squad, possibly by a large margin. Nonetheless what you say is on the cards, but things rarely work out as planned and the club does seem more reactive than proactive and even then too slow to make the necessary adjustments.

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  • FAU

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #8

    to be honest, we create a lot of chances, HBA been quiet because of they mark him and 3ppl coming when he got the ball, pretty hard for any dribbler except messi, However I expect better performance from cisse and debuchy yesterday. I felt like Cisse didnt push himself hard enough. Gouffran isnt good enough as well to feel our striker role. Marica is a free agent and hv a good physicality that suits our no.9 role.

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  • FAU

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    Comment #9

    Cisse needs those touches back. touches he had in his first 6months in this club. If he got it, …

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  • Shot Bru

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    Comment #10

    Sydney toon..you should try working with Aussie nurses mate…;-)

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #11

    Cisse has got a ton of goals in him. It’s up to the management to get the most out of him.

    Why would anyone think another player would just come in and start banging them away?

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #12

    ST, aren’t you a married man!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 23, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Comment #13

    Chaps stop bragging about your conquests -a gentleman never reveal such things. I think what you are bragging about would probably fall into the standard of the image (link provided)
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Fat_bastard.jpeg

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  • Sydney Toon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    Comment #14

    Shot Bru – too late!

    Jimmy
    Well I was until I came home from Roma QLD to find out my now ex wife ran off with the kids, so now I am a slightly depressed but happily separated, soon to be divorced man open to the market!

    MT
    You are very correct, keep it strictly to Football

    Jimmy again
    I may be looking at it a lot more positively, but agree there is still work to be done, but for the current regime model and current top 10 goal, we are there. It is more a case of replacing what we have with better but also keeping morale high.

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  • lesh

    Sep 23, 2013 at 4:58 AM

    Comment #17

    Correct link at 16

    ouch!

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  • Sydney Toon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    Comment #18

    Lesh
    Classic! Ha

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 23, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    Comment #19

    Sydney,
    The Ox isn’t getting game time at the moment as he is injured. Out for 3 months or longer depending on which report you read.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #20

    When the fixtures were announced I said 10 points was what we should be getting from the opening 5 games. 3 home games against sides who will be mid table or lower should all have been won, and a point at Villa was very achievable. We didn’t get the points from the opening 4 games the way I expected, but we did get them. Still, the defeat at Hull, in my opinion, means we have not started well. 9 would have been the minimum. 4 points from a possible 9 at home against poor opposition is a very disappointing return.

    The next 6 fixtures are a lot tougher. We will do well to get 5/6 points from trips to Everton, Cardiff, Sunderland and Spurs and home games against Liverpool and Chelsea.

    On the game, it wasn’t shown out here, so had to make do with Talksport commentary again, but it sounded like very sloppy defending cost us – especially for the second.

    Still, at least the Mackems are in turmoil not long before the Derby. Will be interesting to see who they appoint, Di Matteo, McCleish, Poyet, Ball and Pulis the 5 market leaders.

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #21

    Women! Can’t live with em, can’t kill em. What are ya gonna do?Onwards and upwards, ST. Onwards and upwards. More power to ya pal!

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:40 AM

    Comment #22

    Just Read what Remy said
    Could not of summed it up better
    After first game stopped playing mistakes wrong passes

    Over confident don’t know !

    And the fans stopped singing – never really got going were they over confident to !

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    Comment #23

    previous post – should of read GOALLLLLLL!!!!!!

    Just Read what Remy said
    Could not of summed it up better
    After first goal stopped playing mistakes wrong passes

    Over confident don’t know !

    And the fans stopped singing – never really got going were they over confident to !

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    Comment #24

    From what I saw, there 2 areas that need to be corrected.
    One is RB, Hull attacking Debuchy and they were right. Debuchy not that great and HBA didn’t help to make that right side defense stronger.
    Two is Cisse, we were playing with 10 men as Cisse didn’t really into the game. I would rather drop Cisse and play him as sub, he could probably score a goal as sub (super sub). Right now I think even Obertan is better than Cisse, at least he could help right side defense.

    Dummet ——– Mbiwa——Colo——-Santon
    ————Anita—————Sissoko———-
    ———————Cabaye———————
    HBA————–Remy————–Gouffran

    or

    Debuchy———Mbiwa—–Colo——–Santon
    Anita——–Cabaye——-Sissoko—–Gouffran
    —————–HBA(free role)—————–
    ———————–Remy———————

    At least give someone who can help Debuchy at defense if pardew insist playing Debuchy at RB.
    Dummet or Saylor can play more traditional defensive RB if pardew insisted playing HBA as RW, Debuchy and HBA combination doesn’t work. Debuchy going forward and HBA doesn’t help defensivele, it will mean only little defense on the right side and Cisse offers little help or nothing at going forward or defensively.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    Comment #25

    well didn’t manage to catch the weekend’s game but just saw the highlights….which can be misleading

    from what it showed though we got 2 goals with elements of luck (cisse shot bouncing to remy and remy latching onto a rebound)….not great fluid movements from the team. Also looked like hull had the better of the game…any of these assumptions right from people who watched the match?

    And also I (whilst i still dont like pardew or rate him too highly) think this team of players is not as good as I once did. No matter what the manager tells them they should have better ability on the ball than they show, i simply just think they aren’t that good and are a mid table team.

    Only ones I’d see getting in a top 4 team are Krul, ben arfa and remy…no others.

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    Comment #26

    it looks to me its cisse with a court case hanging over him

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  • HullMag6

    Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #27

    Back room needs a sports psychologist to sort this out.

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #28

    If playing Cisse all the time is supposed to help his confidence, I don’t think it worked.
    Play him as a sub and he might score, it will do him more good than palying him from the start and not doing anything.

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  • John Tudor

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    Comment #29

    he wants a pay rise?
    tell him to borrow froma wonga

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #30

    ———————-Krul———————–
    Debuchy——–Mbiwa—–Colo——-Dummet
    Santon——–Sissoko———Anita————-
    —————-HBA——————–Gouffran
    ———————-Remy———————-

    or
    ———————-Krul———————–
    Debuchy——–Mbiwa—–Colo——-Dummet
    ———–Sissoko——Cabaye———–Anita
    Santon——————-HBA——————
    ———————Remy———————-

    Seems to be stronger at defense and attacking, I think.

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Comment #31

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgNI4Bg0BGA

    This is the only time that Santon played as RW, what do you think?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #32

    santon03

    I’d like santon as a right winger, get HBA left and remy in the middle, bench cisse….can’t continue to play when not in form. he had a good run to play himself into form and it hasn’t happened for him…so give somebody else a go for now.

    I’d like to see young dummet have a run in the side as i find neither of the current fullbacks good defensively, even the basics of positioning seem to go out the window. Then Mbiwa really isn’t convincing me at all…way too many mistakes and drops too deep

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #33

    i can’t see us getting back from this, Leeds will smash us to pieces and Everton well i’ll be surprise if they didn’t win 6-0, just like last season we got beat by a lower team and after that we were in turmoil and as we all know history does repeat itself at Newcastle

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #34

    i said on match day if Cisse is upfront we will lose, no surprise my prediction was correct again

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #35

    Transfer

    We started off like a house on Fire then scored yeah Remy got the luck of the bounce. From then on Hull were the better team.
    Scored a second at the right time a bit of luck the ball coming to Remy but he took it well. – Going to score a hatful as he can create his own goals as well as score from passes crosses.

    Don’t know what happens the first few minutes after half time we have done it time and again – concede in the first five minutes or so after half time.
    I think we were to complacent ‘its only Hull never heard of half of their players’ and suffered for it.

    And the fans were exactly in the same over complacent and when Hull scored couldn’t lift themselves to sing or chant

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #36

    black and white

    I’m not sure we’ll lose to leeds, we had a bad weekend but we are still more than match for leeds, can see us progressing nicely, comfortable but scrappy 2/3-0 win for us.

    I just dont see much flowing football, all our goals have been poor.

    Fulham- ben arfa beats a man and strikes if from edge of box…individual goal

    villa – first goal – decent move ended well by ben arfa
    – second goal – hba shot, followed in….scrappy (but good movement from gouff)

    Hull – both fell to remy and both were not intended passes to him – one a shot, the other a rebound

    So in 5 league games we have only scored one team goal…the rest have been individual or elements of luck. These goals come along in every teams season, so they are fine…its just we dont get enough of the team/well worked goals to push top 7/8.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #37

    charlie

    cheers for that, i always find highlights a poor indication of the game…motd always seem to favour certain teams and make them look better…must be to get more viewers.

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #38

    TS

    Santon as RW can give more cover than HBA can give for RB. I would rather play HBA as 2nd striker than LW, HBA will give no cover for LB.
    Whoever play RB will be exposed as 2 vs 1 if HBA playing RW, and Debuchy is not that great. The goals are the results of Hull attacking our right side. Remy and Gouffran gave good cover for Santon.

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