Pardew – We Need To Put Things Right – And Quickly


The game against Hull City reminded us a little bit of the two games against Sunderland and Liverpool at home last season, when we leaked nine goals in those games, and couldn’t seem to be able to defend at all, and on Saturday we conceded three goals to a side who will have done brilliantly if they stay in the Premier league this season, that’s how bad a result it was on Saturday.

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Alan Pardew – must turn things around

Alan Pardew is now under pressure to improve the performances, although to be fair we had played well and won the previous two league games, so the manager was right to talk about inconsistency of the team and inconsistency  of some of our players after the game.

We play Leeds United at home on Wednesday in the League Cup and that will not be an easy game, but this competition is what gives Newcastle the best chance of winning something for the first time since 1969, so it’s an important game for us.

This is what Alan Pardew told the local papers today:

“There is a reaction required –  full stop – from us.”  “Hopefully in the next few games we can right what has been a wrong against Hull.”

 “I’ve had thinking time and I have used it.” “Of course, but Hull did a great job on us.” “We have to respect them as much as any other opposition.”

“And Saturday is why they can surprise you. They played well and you have to say that.”  “They did their homework and got the victory.”

We said before the game that this could be a banana skin game, because on paper we should win the game fairly easily, especially when we had done so well in the previous three league games and got a good 7 points, but there are no games in the Premier League that are easy or you can take for granted these days.

And the way the lads started looked good,  and we were ahead after 10 minutes through Remy, but it may have been a lack of concentration – or something – that seemed to allow us to give some silly goals away, and if we keep doing that, we could be in trouble this season.

Newcastle were booed off at the end of the game, and they deserved that –  for their incompetent defending.

Saturday’s performance was simply not good enough for a Newcastle side,  and if Alan Pardew has to make changes in his starting eleven to get players in who can concentrate and fight for the cause for the full 90 minutes, that’s what he should be doing – and soon too.

What do you think?

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20 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #1

    what was there homework?

    attack as we have a leaky defense incapable of getting in the right positions to defend…we are so easy to score against

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #2

    geordiemark

    from previous thread

    Agree some players need dropping. I dont want people thinking i’m slating the whole team, just dropping them might give them the kick they need or allow another player to show what he can do.

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #3

    TS

    That’s the difference between Everton and us. When they lose the ball and FB are out of positions, they have wingers or DM covering or give them enough time get back. If you noticed when one of our FB attacking, there is a big hole on their side and opponents running to that side. It’s different with Everton, if Baines go forward they will have someone behind Baines, so it’s not big empty space. Well.. it’s not only Everton, most of the teams are like that (good teams).

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  • WWSBRD

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #4

    No signs of quitting yet then

    Their homework must of been fairly easy though, using ur attackers to take on their defenders is pretty common surely? I suppose heading a ball without contest isn’t a often used training method but hey it worked

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #5

    santon

    I agree the team has no shape/movement to attack or defend as a unit…it’s 11 individuals really. Santon was good at inter under mourinho (he doesnt play people who dont impress every week) and debuchy has played well for france and lille for a while now.

    A new coach is needed for me, Pardew just struggles and although we keep the ball on the floor better now we still dont link play and do much with it. He has had nearly 3 years here now and the football has not got any better.

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  • Guj NUFC

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #6

    There’s only 1 way I will forget about this game, beat everton and cardiff next

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  • daztoon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #7

    We either need to play 3-5-2 and use Debuchy,Santon as the wing backs they are and play 3 out and out defenders behind them.Or Pardew has to sort it out and make a more disciplined back 4 who defend first

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #8

    TS

    Yes, and he only knows 2 tactics so far (4-4-2 and 4-3-3). He doesn’t know that tactics dont have to be in symmetrical shapes.

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  • WWSBRD

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #9

    Tbf to Pardew am sure he didn’t tell Cisse to play like muck, Colo not to defend set pieces, Debuchy to wander off and HBA to have the day off players have to take some of the blame they are all meant to be quality players and they let the game get away from their control

    Feeling has drastically changed compared to Saturday morning

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  • Guj NUFC

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #10

    Daz 3-5-2 is very logical seeing as we can’t defend so 3 center halves instead of 2 would cover that, pack the midfield 5 with Debuchy Cabaye Sissoko Anita Santon, play either HBA off Remy or Remy + Cisse, with HBA in midfield

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #11

    If we are under Italian manager (other than DiCanio), we would probably see this

    ———————-Krul———————
    ———————Colo(sweeper)————
    ——–Mbiwa——————-Saylor——–
    ——–Sissoko—–Anita—————Santon
    HBA——————–Cabaye————-
    ——————Remy———–Gouffran——

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  • Santon03

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #12

    It is sometimes used by Prandelli, using DeRossi as Sweeper.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #13

    wwsbrd

    Yeh the players are letting him down big time…they are so poor at first touches, laying off simple passes etc…they are pro’s and this should be second nature to them (even if the tactics/shape are wrong). They are as much to play as pardew.

    But I think a better manager might have them better drilled and get them playing well. Pardew has had 3 years and we haven’t imprved

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  • Guj NUFC

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #14

    My only worry is Taylor being in a back 3, not the quickest and 1st game of season exposed him. Imagine our back 3 could have been M’biwa/Colo/Sakho!!!!!!

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  • pottsclock

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #15

    Hull marked HBA tightly, gave him no space and thus removed the only real threat we have had in the previous matches.
    Then because HBA doesn’t really cover and because Debuchy is weak at the moment, they had the run of it on their left.
    It was a fairly obvious game plan for those who had seen our previous performances this season and a one that other teams will now use. Somehow we need to strengthen our right side defensively but still keep a formation that keeps HBA, our main threat, in the team

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  • daztoon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #16

    Guj

    I’d give Dummet a go in a back 3.Mbiwa,Colo,Dummet

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  • WWSBRD

    Sep 23, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #17

    Sage
    Probably but Ashley isn’t friends with any better managers and managers with less quality need coach backing which clearly Ashley won’t sanction. Our coaching quality isn’t high and we don’t have many coaches to begin with

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #18

    Human relationships always start with something in common. Travelling to toon away games forms contacts and friendships well outside the region. All because of a common love of a football club. So it’s sad to witness the sniping on here and elsewhere of fellow fans because they don’t share the same appetite for action and demonstration against our current owner.

    Those who go regularly to away games tend to focus more on results, whereas there are many for whom meeting up with friends before and after the game is just as important as the result; though it’s more fun winning than seeing your team lose. So I thought it was hard to reconcile on Saturday but there is another game on Wednesday.

    The toon is very much part of the community irrespective of which regime is temporarily holding the reins. A football club can be as much in their communities as they want to be and quite often through supporters groups. This is a great idea just as long as they don’t get power complexes about it, implying that no-one but them can do it, it’s fine with me. A working life provides less time for many, both to attend games and to participate in the current wave of anti Ashley activities. A fan is a fan. But some are followers rather than leaders. It is important to get the balance right if aims and objectives are to be achieved. Something not achieved when we previously played Hull at SJP. That set the club back on many fronts.

    However what we are experiencing at present is a total lack of unity with these groups bickering and it seems little sense of common purpose even to agree on a (common) mission statement. For me first and foremost we should be looking to improve communication with the fans. Something which is obtainable and desirable. Rowdy demonstrations just make us a laughing stock with the football world at large and actually achieve very little.

    A rough straw poll in the No 9 on Saturday, by fanzine contributors, suggest that there is little appetite for any repeat of the past ill thought out demonstrations. But ” Gatherings outside Sports Direct stores ” favoured. !!! My suggestion of good investigative journalism to bring Ashley out into the open was not favourably received.

    I worry though where we as a football club are going when we have the divisive ill thought out posting of a few anti Ashley types on here who do little to win the undecided fan to their cause. It’s not the way to win hearts and minds.

    If those types are looking to influence they need to get their message across. What are the aims and objectives. ? Why should anyone follow you if you can’t even agree amongst yourselves !

    Get someone with integrity like John Gibson to post on here not the scallywags you currently select. Just my opinion.

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  • lesh

    Sep 23, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #19

    Saw a shot of Kinnear and tellingly he was sitting next to Ashley who was next to Carr on Saturday.

    So? I read that as Kinnear showing the world at large that he’s still very much with us and has the support of Ashley.

    And with Carr in that little grouping, Kinnear’s really putting the pressure on Pardew who must feel isolated.

    But, there doesn’t appear to be anyone available to step in if Pardew should go soon – apart from Kinnear and/ or Carr.

    What a frightening prospect but no worse than Chelsea or Man U should Mourinho or Moyes become available!
    Speaking of Man U, Cameron and the UN have called for calm and emergency aid to help cope with the flood of Man U fans seeking asylum at the Ethiad Stadium!

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  • toonicle

    Sep 23, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #20

    No reason in my opinion to blame Pards for this defeat, however I will blame him if he persists in playing under performing players like he did last year. Cisse and Debuchy need some bench time to figure themselves out.

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