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Everyone Loved The Manager – They Were Exciting Times

8:53 am, Tuesday, September 24th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 21 Comments

Kieron Dyer was at Newcastle from 1999 through 20007, and he played 250 games and scored 36 goals for the Magpies,  but he never did fulfill the massive potential he had when he signed from Ipswich Town back in the summer of 1999, when Ruud Gullit was still the Newcastle manager, and just before he was finally fired and Bobby Robson was brought in.

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Kieron Dyer – while at Newcastle

And when he left Newcastle injuries blighted his career at clubs like West Ham, QPR and Middlesbrough, and his injury ravaged career came to an end in the summer, when he announced his retirement.

But Kieron did have the pleasure of playing for one of the best ever British managers in Sir Bobby Robson, and of course Bobby had his success because of the way he could inspire players to play at or near their very best – it wasn’t all about tactics with Bobby –  it was about getting the best out of the players he had at his disposal.

And he always did that quite brilliantly – and that’s always the main measure  of any manager.

This is what Kieron has said in the Evening Chronicle today:

“He knew how to deal with all of the players.” “Sir Bob managed real legends in the game.” “He managed them all, not just us. Romario, Stoichkov, Ronaldo, Figo, Guardiola, van Nistelrooy, Gazza and Shearer – all of the big names.”

“You don’t hear any player have a bad word to say about him. That is testament to him.” “In football it is very hard to keep whole squads happy, but everyone loves Bobby.”

“That is how he was as a manager.” “I had my injury problems while at Newcastle but I still played a heck of a lot of games up there.”  “I signed for West Ham and broke my leg and it was all down hill from there.”

“Newcastle was the high point for me – but not just for me, for a lot of the players from that time.”  “We were playing great football and we were in the Champions League up against Inter Milan an Barcelona.”

“If we were not in the Champions League we were in the UEFA Cup and we reached the latter stages.”  “They were exciting times for us.”

They were exciting times indeed, and with the former greats returning to Newcastle almost two weeks ago for Steve Harper’s testimonial, a lot of us wonder when those great times will ever return.

Newcastle v West Ham

The incomparable Bobby Robson

Dyer is one of the many players who left Newcastle, and never did as well at his other clubs, and it’s strange how   often that is the case with top players who decide to leave the club for one reason or another.

What do you think?

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21 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 24, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Nut meg, (Re post)
    Cisse is really starting to become a bit of an issue. I have missed both the games where we have lined up 433, as they weren’t on over here, so I’m hoping he sticks with lineup and formation for Everton so I can watch and judge for myself.

    Do HBA and Remy play as wide attackers, or are they just in and around Cisse supporting him, relying on width from either full back? Do both full backs push on at the same time leaving us exposed, in which case making it impossible to cover and hold shape while maintaining an attacking move? For me, these are 2 questions that i will need answered before I can judge any of the players.

    If the full backs go forward one at a time, then it shouldn’t be HBA holding back to allow Debuchy to get forward, it should be Anita or to a lesser extent Sissoko. If both are pushing on, then the full backs and management are at fault for this. Either way, I don’t think this is HBA’s fault.

    If Remy and HBA are wide forwards, then Cisse will be left too isolated again, if they are just tucked in behind him and he is still struggling then I would like to see Vuckic in for him and swap him and Remy around. Vuckic couldn’t do the wide role, but tucked in he has the ability to unlock defences and create.

    My big issue with HBA is his decision making. He seems to have zip going on between his ears when it comes to team play and general football awareness.

  • 2 mindshaft // Sep 24, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Was a decent player when fit but was a bit of a sick note and also a bit of a d!ck – seems to have matured a bit in older age and only says good things about the toon which is good to hear.

  • 3 theartfuldodger // Sep 24, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    I thought Peter Ramage was decent. Also Darren Ambrose. We let them go.

    Does Ashley create an atmosphere wherein players want to extend contracts ? I dont think so.
    NUFC seems to be all about penny pinching.

    Its ok if a player breaks contract when sold to a bigger club but when he lets a contract expire for a sideways move, it will be hard to swallow. Imagine if Benny or cabaye move to swansea or southampton after contracts expire and they dont want to sign on another one. Those would be sad days. We will know in a couple of years.

  • 4 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    “You don’t hear any player say a bad word about him.” “[Except when he tried to play me right wing at Boro, what a massive tw*t he was that day, sod that I thought I'm just going to refuse to play]” he didn’t add.

    Jog on Dyer. Bored of players who caused trouble when they were here coming out with how respect they had for Bobby. You all had a funny way of showing it.

  • 5 Rotonda heights // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Blofal

    Trouble is English players are at a premium, way over priced and lack technical ability on the level of a Bergkamp, Zola, Cantona etc etc.

    What’s the point in having English players who can only run fast, jump high and hoof it 60 yards?

    I think it’s a bit of a myth about English players having way more desire and work rate. In my experience there are way too many young English players who are big time charlies who are out on the sauce more far more than they should be for professional athletes.

    Our trouble is we have an old school English manager with a group of technical players he doesn’t know how to work with and get the best out of.

  • 6 Rotonda heights // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    Dyer was the epitomy of a big time charlie and set the tone

  • 7 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    If only he could have scored more goals he would have been a very good player.

  • 8 Laurent Robert 32 // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    He was making a fool out of Sir Bobby though, him and his overly merry band of wayward players.

  • 9 jimmysmith // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    Dyer was good though, when fit and on his game. Would run around at full tilt for 90 minutes. Must have been a torrid nightmare to mark.

  • 10 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    @3
    As it stands. Moving to Swansea is not a sideways move. It’s up a notch.

  • 11 roy // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Is this the same Dyer who used to take the piss out of Bobby? And the Punch up with Bowyer which hastened Sir Bobby’s sacking.

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Rotonda,
    British players who had (sniggers) loads of desire and work rate to have graced Newcastle this century

    Ranger, Chopra, Dyer, Jenas, Bramble, Ireland, Owen. How many of them had more desire or passion then our current lot?? I’d wager none.

  • 13 elpaso_geordie // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    @3 artfuldodger

    Peter Ramage and Darren Ambrose – dear me
    haven’t had a career out the championship

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    ArtfulDodger,
    Aye, and look where they ended up. When youngsters come through they always end up getting viewed with black and white tinted spectacles, just because we have produced them. They are rarely that good.

    Thing is, we currently have a great opportunity to progress 5/6 kids over the next 3/4 years IF we get it right – loan them to suitable clubs, give them sensible amounts of time on the pitch here when they aren’t on loan, bring in at least 1 proper footballing coach.

  • 15 Norpie // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Can’t say I miss Dyer, but I sure do miss those days when Newcastle were playing well in Europe. Seems so long ago. Compared to back then, these days feel like a coma.

    Oh, well. At least there is Leeds tomorrow. Haven’t looked forward to a match like this in a long time. Hopefully close to a full SJP, 6000 travelling Leeds supporters, probably a touching homage to Gary Speed and most certainly a 10-1 win to Newcastle! Howay!

  • 16 Rotonda heights // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Lilo

    My point exactly

  • 17 martoon // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    roy @11 – I think Souness was manager when the ‘punch up’ happened but you are right Dyer did used to take the p*ss out of SBR (as well as Bellamy) which contributed to his sacking.

  • 18 Steve_48 // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    “Kieron Dyer was at Newcastle from 1999 through 20007″ – thought he was looking a bit old – Ed check before posting eh?

  • 19 Rotonda heights // Sep 24, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    steve at 48

    those dates work don’t they? Dyer is nearly 36, probably joined us in his early 20′s

  • 20 derekm // Sep 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    two faced piece of …. Dyer and Jenas were noted for making faces at Robson as he walked away from them – they were instrumental in his sacking, backed up by the fact that Shepherd employed Souness as a hard .liner to sort out the dressing room. The way he confronted Bellamy who was being his usual ass like self proved it.

  • 21 ronjohno // Sep 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    What a two faced git.
    Openly defied SBR especially at Boro.
    The self styled young guns should be totally ashamed but of course shame does not enter their vocabulary




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