Newcastle After Portuguese League Center-Back


Newcastle United are reported to be interested in 20-year-old Cape Verde defender Pecks, who has also attracted the interest of both Manchester City and Tottenham.

Pecks

Cape Verdi born Pecks – looks older than 20 – he must worry a lot

The six-foot defender broke into the first team of Portuguese side Gil Vicente only last season, and his powerful and skillful play has attracted some of the top Premier League sides to watch him play in the Portuguese League.

Pecks has played only 10 times for Gil Vicente so far, and he is listed at around £500K by transfermarkt.com, which is within the budget of Newcastle, but that fee doesn’t seem to be very accurate – read on.

But we’ll not have much chance of signing this lad if Manchester City and Tottenham are really interested in him, and City are said to already be in the driver’s seat to get the Cape Verdi born youngster.

Cape Verdi is off the west coast of Africa, directly west of Senegal capital Dakar.

The right footed center-back has already played for his country of birth, and was in the Cape Verde squad in the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations earlier this year.

But if the news that the Gil Vicente President has already slapped an £8M fee on his head, then Newcastle will exit right – and quickly too.

Gil Vicente President Antonio Fiusa had this to say:

“The player has a contract until 2017 and we will not sell for a low price.”

The report is that Manchester City will move in with a £5M offer for Pecks, after they have already watched the 20 year-old several times already this season.

Why is that we think Newcastle will have no chance of signing this player?

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157 comments so far

  • estechco

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #1

    Jeez- hard paper round or what!?!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #2

    I really don’t get this idea of attacking our own all of the time. Whether it’s Ashley, JFK, Pardew, Shola, Jonas, Cisse, Saylor or anyone else, they are all employed by our club to do a certain job and I’d rather they did their jobs to the best of their abilities as that’s good for the club which is also good for me, a fan.

    I get that we’d have liked Gomis or Lukaku instead of Ameobi, I get that we’d like a proper DoF instead of JFK, I get that we’d like a top manager instead of Pardew and I definitely get that we’d like an owner that has a relationship with the fans, but that doesn’t excuse the behaviour.

    The relationship between the fans and Ashley is damaged beyond repair in my opinion and that’s as much the fans fault as it is Ashley’s, but it is what it is. I still don’t see any point in slagging him off or protesting. If we want a new owner, what we should be focussing on is attracting a new owner to our club rather than demanding the current one leaves! It’s frankly moronic and never works. Why can’t a protest be about something positive for a change?

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  • Belfast

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #3

    Hardest paper round in the world mate lol
    Dodgy passport me thinks !!

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #4

    Perhaps we should try a front three of gouffran campbell sammy against leeds. Behind them marveaux. Then tiote and gosling.

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  • martoon

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #5

    cestriasteve from last topic – I’m not sure about Cisse – I’d probably play him against Leeds hoping for some inprovement to increase his confidence and take it from there. I’d also consider switching back to 4 4 2 as we have to make sure we track their fullbacks – especially Baines.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #6

    TDS

    You must appreciate people’s grievances and many of them have now reached a tipping point. You didn’t even mention Wonga for good measure.

    Ashley turned down the Mansoors quoting them a widely rumoured 800M so he’s not going anywhere soon and I guess some people are just sick of settling for mediocrity and want to vent – do you get that too?

    This is a forum for views other than your own to be aired and discussed topically.after all

    What have the fans done so far that has been so bad and as you say moronic? I think by and large they’ve been remarkably tolerant.

    I see a couple of very unfortunate quotes attributed to you in a previous thread. I think the ego has landed!!

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #7

    TDS

    is that a wind up ??

    protest about something positive?? is that not what praise is about??
    what do we have to praise??

    and “if im honest” many of us do praise the team that has been built, I think you will find that it is not being used to full affect,
    you carnt please everyone, and no one ever will, but if he was in a room with 100 fans (nufc ones) I would say more than 90% would ask why Jonas gets a game? there is no logical reason for him being at our club right now,

    our team is capable of so much more than we see, basic passing and movement is so poor at our club right now, this is all down to coaching,

    for tomorrow, I see us getting beat, and his answer will be we were missing a few of our big players,

    he will forget that he picks the team, and that it is LEEDS we are playing,

    sad man

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #8

    TDS

    How do we attract a new owner? there is no way we can do that. We already have a great reputation worldwide (even after all the anti-shepherd/manager protests of the past).

    I think protesting will either do nothing or get ashley to consider selling early (even if it means he pulls more money out quicker to pay off his loan). It certainly won’t make things worse in my opinion (just my opinion of course).

    I think a protest could get ashley to put the club up for sale (it did last time) and that means we are more likely to find a new owner. He needs to be the one looking for a buyer as he is the only one who operates in the circles/has the connections needed to find a buyer….we simply do not/

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  • Jonny

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #9

    Play strongest team possible tomorrow night. If we end up playing reserves, we will get done over by Leeds.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #10

    we should be playing 8/9 of our first team tomorrow

    we need to get some fluidity into our game and drill the defensive structure….mass changes will only make this worse

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  • roy

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #11

    We need someone to replace Colocini, who is starting to look well past his best, he does not win any headers his pace is gone and its time he was gone.

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  • Belfast

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #12

    I would play a full strength team, Drop Cisse and play Remy through the middle.

    Get the feeling that Pardew will play a team full of kids though, and blame it on the kids if we get beat.

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  • Nufc-83

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #13

    roy // Sep 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    We need someone to replace Colocini, who is starting to look well past his best, he does not win any headers his pace is gone and its time he was gone.
    Colo has never been strong in the air and has never had pace so not sure what your going on about tbh. You dont need pace when you can read the game as good as him but i do think we are missing a physical cb to partner colo.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #14

    Rotonda

    I absolutely get that it’s reached tipping point for many fans. A few points:
    – I can’t stand Wonga, I really can’t. They were selected as they apparently offered the best deal. I simply don’t believe that Virgin would have offered more, that makes no sense when people will say that Ashley is greedy. But I’d like to know why Bolton fans managed to stop their payday loan sponsor while we just bitched about Wonga on forums? That was a good time to protest!!
    – £800M seems pure fairytale to me and I don’t believe it for a minute. Even if it was true, he bought the club and has a right to keep it if he wants to. He overvalues our players to avoid them from leaving on the cheap, doesn’t it make sense that he would do the same for his other asssets?
    – I didn’t call our fans moronic. I said that protests demanding that the owner leaves are moronic. Seeing as we haven’t actually managed to orchestrate a proper campaign to demand that yet, I would have thought it was clear I was referring to fans at other clubs who have done the same. Blackburn certainly spring to mind…aren’t they in a good place now…

    What thread are you referring to? Some people have a wonderful habit of twisting words and attributing quotes absent the topic.

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  • Nufc-83

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #15

    Another thing that i cant understand is the amount of criticism Sammy Ameobi gets. He is a young lad who to me has impressed and looked better than our 1st teamers in recent times. He put in some good displays in Europe and has looked good for the England u21. I would rather him on the left and Remy through the middle than playing Cisse at the moment any day of the week.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #16

    Belfast – 12, I think he may do that as well.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #17

    catchy

    So 90% of NUFC fans think that they could do a better job than our manager. Now that’s arrogance!

    Jonas is a workmanlike midfielder. He’s not a Ginola, Robert or Solano for sure but when he plays it’s because the manager things he’s the best man for the job. Our only other option last season was Marveaux who flits in and out of games and doesn’t exactly do much defensively. I don’t have a problem with a hard worker like Jonas at all.

    People slagged off Simpson for being limited, now they’re slagging off Debuchy for being too attacking…

    As for the protest topic. I’m not suggesting we praise Pardew or Ashley because they haven’t done enough things positively to deserve that. What I’m suggesting is that the protests are to demand a new owner. We speculate on new potential signings but I hate it when people speculate on who should be sold, I just don’t get it.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #18

    TS

    He put it up for sale before because he realised that the club he wanted to have fun running wasn’t going to be fun any more after the KK mess. That still p*sses me off on both sides because Ashley should have taken advice from experienced football people, not appointed KK on a whim and frankly the fans should not have overreacted. The relationship died then…

    You don’t think it would be an interesting twist to demand a new owner buys our club and to highlight the passionate fans that we have?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #19

    Case in point…Colo has already been slagged off on this page. He’s the best defender we’ve got!!

    Sure, it would be great if we could go out and buy a Vidic or Sakho but that’s not exactly realistic…

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  • Our Toon

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #20

    He certainly doesnt look 20, the team tomorrow should be:

    Elliott,

    Tav Saylor Good/Williamson Haidara/Dummett

    Marv Gosling Tiote Birgi Sammy

    Cisse

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #21

    TDS

    The same protests calling for Ashley out are calling for a new owner as well. It’s not ashley out and nobody there…its for ashley to sell to an owner we want.

    I have contacted the MAOC through their facebook page and read there updates on there and twitter. They have something organised, a mass protest before the game, before the liverpool game. They are working very hard and often have regular meetings in the city with those who want to/are able to get involved with such things.

    They are pushing for a new owner, which is what you want, but also intent to remain loyal to the team in games to show how much we back the team. It’s a good campaign. They are also collating and getting the views of former players and trying to get them on board.

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  • Tinman

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #22

    Transfer Sage,

    MAOC is the way forward. Looks a ver positive and organised campaign, I have been following it for a few weeks as well.

    Team:
    Elliot
    Deb Mbi Good Dumm
    Tiote Anita Sissoko
    Gouf Cisse Sammy

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #23

    TDS

    we might not be able to get vidic but we could have gotten another defender to come in for williamson to push the other 3 more.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #25

    TS

    I have no time with the MAOC. I’ve seen so many stupid statements from them in the past, they have a stupid name, they refused to respond when I asked to be put in touch with someone at time4change and MacToon was nothing but abusive recently.

    Maybe they’ve grown up a little but everything I’ve seen from them is that they’re a tinpot group who couldn’t organise a p*ss up in a brewery.

    Maybe time4change will make a difference and I know MAOC are part of that so maybe a little direction for all these groups is what is needed. I know it’s part of time4change’s plan that they want to campaign for a new owner of the right sort too and I’ll all for that’s.

    The protest has to be done well, and hopefully they’ll do that. A few dozen or few hundred people chanting “Ashley out” is just pointless.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #26

    Our Toon

    Firstly it’s the Daily Fail…

    And even if it was all true, it states:
    – Ashley was demanding £481M NOT £800M as some people claimed
    – The offer on the table was only £200 which is less than the purchase price plus the loans so he would have had to have taken a loss!
    – Dubai Investment Group denied being involved in negotiations

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #27

    TDS

    They are not a tinpot group. They have an official site, al be it on facebook, post regular updates, host meetings, and have a joint plan to work towards a protest at the liverpool game.

    I think it’s a bit disrespectful to call them that when everyone else i know who has spoke with/met them find them very balanced and productive.

    And how is MAOC a bad name? it sums up what we want, Ashley out and a new owner in.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #28

    TS

    We could have…and Chelsea could have bought another striker, Man City could have bought another central defender, Man Utd could have bought another creative midfielder etc.

    We can always pick at the weak points of our squad but I don’t get that attitude at all.

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  • Ciaran

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #29

    TDSarf

    Pardew is not one of our own. Ashley is not one of our own. Kinnear is not one of our own. As for your criticisms of MAOC, you know next to nothing about what they are doing so you are in no fit place to comment. Get off that misplaced high horse of yours and actually get in the mindset of a fan who wants to make a difference.

    You’re a joke lad.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #30

    TS

    Last time I had a look at their site and whenever I’ve spoken to someone on here who claimed to represent them, I’ve seen nothing from them that convinced me they were worth following.

    However, I understand that time4change is an umbrella group that includes MAOC so perhaps what they are saying now is on their behalf?

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  • Tinman

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #31

    Ciaran,

    Tell it how it is mate

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  • roy

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #32

    Colocini the best defender Mbwia is far superior its a pity he hasn’t someone as good alongside him. Colocini, this is the same guy who Suarez and Bale took the piss out of along with Walcott, last season.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #33

    TDS

    MAOC working under time4change is a good thing, it is getting everyone together and looking to involve as many people and ideas as possible. It seems to be taking time due to everyone involved wanting it organised properly and the best action to be taken.

    I know we can all say every team missed out on x. y or z but every other team but us bought a player in the summer. We got a single loan signing ( a good signing mind).

    Chelsea could have got a striker (or just kept lukaku, best striker at chelsea) but they still got willian, schurle, eto’o….we got nobody.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #34

    roy

    Suarez, Bale and Walcott are 3 of the trickiest players in the world to play against! They all take defenders apart.

    Plenty of people on here have slagged off MYM and you’re saying he’s better than Colo. We have 2 defenders good enough for top 10 PL but sadly our next 2 are only good enough for bottom 10…

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #35

    roy

    mbiwa is our third best CB after colo, then taylor.

    i’ll get slated by 99% of people for this but saylor, although has the odd mad moment, is a damn site better than mbiwa in the prem league.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #36

    TS

    I think it could be a very good thing. Like I’ve said many times, time4change seems to have the right message and I like it. I’d love to find out more about what they actually want to do and what they are planning but my offer of help was ignored and I’m too far away to join any protest.

    My point was that just demanding the owner leaves is moronic. We’ve seen fans of several other clubs do it before and all it does it destabilise the club and often lead to relegation, whether they were already heading there or now. I’m all for a campaign demanding an owner who does the right things for the club.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #37

    TDS

    agree with you on that…bale, walcott and suarez can make any defenders look poor on their day.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #38

    TS/roy

    Opinions are funny things…

    roy things MYM is better than Colo, TS things Saylor is better than MYM.

    I’m going to disagree with both of you and order them Colo, MYM, Saylor then Willo

    The biggest problem with Saylor is that he’s always liable to give away a penalty or being sent off. He’s got away with so many in recent seasons that I don’t think he will keep getting the benefit of the doubt. If only we could combine his passion with the ability of some of the other lads!

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  • Tinman

    Sep 24, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #39

    On our defence,

    MYM is a very good defender, even when he does make the occasional mistake he has the pace to recover. Fair enough he is not brilliant in the air but that is why he should be played with someone who is.

    Saying Taylor isn’t good enough for top 10 side is harsh. Yeah he makes the odd howler but most of the time he is solid. I seem to remember fans chanting Taylor for England last season when he had a VERY good run of 5-10 games and was like a brick wall against Anzhi.

    In addition to that I think Good has shown the potential that he could well step up. Only heard good thigs about him when he was at Bradford, and they played some pretty tough opponents in that cup run which they wouldn’t have beat if it wasn’t for a solid defence. He looked very good against Morecambe the other week and I expect him to look good against Leeds as well.

    We all know Williamson can do a job as well as long as it is only 1-4 games a season rather than 10-20.

    I think if we brought in another CB then that area would have been looking pretty decent.

    The reason our defence often looks shaky is because both of our wingbacks are very aggresive and once w go ahead we let teams come onto us. We then try and play on the counter which means the game gets stretched and our DM find it hard to fill in the gaps.

    If we just tried to keep a hold of the ball and play possession football for at least 10 mins after we score then our defence would suddenly look a lot better. Its bad tactics and coaching which are leading to our many defensive errors at the moment.

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