Newcaste vs Leeds – Match Prevew


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In his short 17 months as the Newcastle manager, Graeme Souness said that two defeats in a  row and Newcastle United were in a crisis, so according at least to Graham,  if Newcastle manage to lose the game tonight in the Capital One Cup against Leeds United, we will be in a crisis.

Newcastle were simply awful after the first 20 minutes of the game last Saturday, and in a game where 85% of our readers thought we would win the game, we managed to lose, and not only that but we gave up three goals at home to the newly promoted side.

Alan Pardew kept saying yesterday at his press conference for the game tonight, that he was still livid about both the performance and the result on Saturday, and he would give a chance tonight to some of the fringe players.

Two local lads who will get a game tonight are Paul Dummett, who was outstanding in pre-season and Sammy Ameobi, who has also been in good form so far this season. Who else Alan will bring in we don’t know, but it could be a good chance to give center-back Mike Williamson a game, and Mike is under-rated at Newcastle, and when required, he can do a good  job for Newcastle – maybe he can do that job tonight.

We have an important game next Monday night at Goodison Park, so we think Alan Pardew will give a number of fringe players a game – although not too many. Steven Taylor, Jonas Gutierrez, Yohan Cabaye and Shola Ameobi – who now has the flu – are all unavailable for this game.

Here’s a  possible side Alan will start tonight in a 4-3-3 formation:

Elliot
Debuchy Coloccini (c) Williamson Dummett
Anita Tiote Gosling
Ben Arfa Cisse Gouffran
Subs: Krul Santon Yanga-Mbiwa  Bigirimana Marveaux Sissoko Remy

What’s your team for tonight?

Newcastle haven’t won anything since 1969, and this competition offers us our best chance to break that terrible streak of non success, even though we found out at the first Fans Focus meeting on Monday night,  that the local cups were not a priority for Mike Ashley’s Newcastle.

The Premier League is the only priority – because of the massive amounts of money a Premier League club will make every year.

According to our readers, at the time of writing – only two in three – or 67% – think we will win this game, which must be decided tonight, and it will go to extra time and penalties if required. Here’s you chance top vote if you haven’t already done so.

How Will Newcastle Fare Tonight Against Leeds?

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The keys to  the game are that Newcastle players give 100% with enthusiasm and pride in wearing the famous black and white striped shirt, and if  Leeds United do manage to score, they cannot lower their standards as they did against Hull City on Saturday.

What they need to do is fight back even more to get ahead,  and have Newcastle get through to the last 16 of this competition. Each player who turns out for Newcastle tonight needs to show the passion and commitment to Newcastle United – and big time too.

What do you think?

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91 comments so far

  • Slank

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #1

    That’s an interesting line-up.

    Having seen quite a few suggestions from people on here what appears to be certain is that no one quite knows who will be in the starting eleven.

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  • Nufc-83

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #2

    Nufc-83 // Sep 25, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    theartfuldodger // Sep 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Play sammy dummett etc against teams like hull or cardiff or others depending upon the opponents quality in that position.
    (First teamers took things for granted)

    Keep the bigger boys for top and midtable sides.

    That should give players like dummett atleast 8 premier league games this season + a few cup games + games due to injuries.
    Next season give him 15 or so PL games.

    This guy must be trolling here??? We cant even beat them with our 1st teamers why would we drop them we got beat by hull for christs sake. If dummet is good enough to make the position his own great but dont drop people to save for injuries when facing top teams its the teams below we need to beat ffs.

    Had to repost as its so retarded.

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  • Slank

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #3

    I used to watch Leeds in the 60’s and early 70’s. There were a very ruthless but very skillful team under Don Revie.

    It’s very sad to see how once such a dominating team have fallen so low. The same goes for Nottingham Forest and less so Wolves. A real warning to those who think we have some god given right to always be among the elite.

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  • MacToon

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #4

    Ibitza, I read the club’s ambition as:
    “The cup competitions are not a priority for the club. They are used to be able to look at our squad as a whole. The focus is on a top ten league place because the financial rewards are so great”

    and tads, seems I’m getting blamed for everything atm even though I represent Mactoon ha ha no more no less, photoshopping not my speciality mate but I know some canny photographers 😉

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  • belgrade fan

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #5

    So what is the point supporting the club who publicly declared that has no ambitions in PL, Cups are not important, doesn’t want to buy players and has a manager who is owners PR because that guarantee his job??? Here in Serbia club will be destroyed somebody to say things like this. NUFC is brainwashing these days

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #6

    Nufc-83

    I thought we screwed up against hull cause we became over confident. Fullbacks went forward a lot and we lost shape and solidity.
    A more restrictive dummett would have done better plus the need to put in a solid defensive performance.
    We have the quality to score a couple against hull.

    Im not sure if that makes sense to you. But its not that bad that you need to say Im trolling.

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  • MacToon

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #7

    Sorry for misspelling your name mate….. typo!

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  • Nufc-83

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #8

    theartfuldodger its fine if you think Dummett is good enough to be starting but resting players when we face the lower table sides who we actually need to make sure we get 3 points against is for me up there with trolling. Maybe i got the wrong end of the stick i don’t know.

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  • Slank

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #9

    belgrade @ 5

    It’s common sense that priority is given to the premier league because without it we wouldn’t get the income and wouldn’t be able to buy the players and we wouldn’t see some of the worlds best players and some of the best English (and Welsh) teams.

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  • belgrade fan

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #10

    Slank

    1st- I didn’t see anybody says our goal is to push for CL. No, to be in first half of the table. It means 10th place is ok.
    2nd- we have 60M for Tv money, Wonga deal etc- bought 0 players
    So?

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  • belgrade fan

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #11

    And last season we were 16th and didn’t see our manager is sacked. so it means only goal is to stay in PL, place is no important

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  • toon kk

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #12

    Playing Leeds will test our fitness and show weather we deserve to be in the premier league.
    I hope we’re up for the game because Leeds will be. We maybe better on paper but if we play like we chose to against Hull we’ll be knocked out.

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #13

    I think that a full back who might be better at defending and keeping shape would be better against lower teams even if he cant get forward as much as debuchy.
    We have the quality to score a couple of goals against hull without full backs attacking that much.

    This is how I felt after the game.

    What other opportunity can we give these guys.
    Bring them on against manc manu lpool ? Thats risky.(Although dummett did better than debs against city)
    Or against westham fulham whom we struggle to break down at times.

    Its not about resting , its about level of motivation and certain qualities. Also keeping bigger names on their toes.

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  • JAMSHA

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #14

    bloody ma twitter acc got hacked,, how do i get it back?? tryd forgot pword but still havnt recived mail

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  • Slank

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #15

    belgrade fan @ 10 & 11

    I said the Premier League not the Champions League.

    We are, and have for most of our time been, a mid table team.

    The TV money is paid in stages, not all upfront.

    The club didn’t find anyone who was appreciably better than any of the regular starting players notwithstanding the agents fees. We could have gone out like Sunderland and brought in a busload of Premiership novices, and a lot of good it has done them.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #16

    I must say I disagree with the Ashley doesn’t communicate thing

    Everyone he employs to run the club communicates his ambitions, when they speak of our targets, there communicating his targets, his ambitions just because there not in a statement directly from him doesn’t detract from the fact that they are his aims

    A lot of people seem to look at it too straight forward, you hear a lot of “it’s the same team that finished 5th so what’s changed”
    The atmosphere and belief has changed, not just among the fans, but the players, the staff the club just radiates a really downtrodden atmosphere
    The players no longer seem to buy into the project anymore, when we saw players like Cabaye, Ba, Benny, Cisse signed they all said the same thing, they bought into the project sold them

    They bought into the philosophy he sold them
    They bought into the clubs ambitions as regular European competitors
    They bought into the clubs ambitions to assualt the top 6 every season
    These aren’t made up targets, these were the ambitions told to is fans and the players by llambias and Pardew, the representatives of the club and owner
    We reached these targets in one season, the owner though job done
    That decision cost the club as a whole and he seems uninterested in doing anything to fix this error in judgement
    The fans know it, players want out, the manager is struggling to keep the team going, the DOF is struggling to attract players and the club is struggling to keep up with competition and stay in the league

    Even the poor lass who does the clubs PR seems to be struggling to offer positives at the fans meetings

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #17

    Ashley lets people know that he has no intention of selling the club just as a bunch of people are arranging a protest march to demand that he does.

    Problem is, why should he? I wouldn’t let someone demand that I sold my house or car because they didn’t like what I was doing with it. That’s not an excuse for the way he’s running the club, just a view from his perspective, something that a few people could learn a bit more about.

    Most depressing thing for me was saying the cups were not a focus for the club. Very sad…

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #18

    Slank
    We didn’t need guaranteed starters, we needed some competition for places and some quality in depth
    No one asked for 15 players ffs 2-4 sensible additions to bolster the squad

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Great post TADS,
    I was implying similar stuff when I spoke of Feel Good Factor missing. You have explained it very well.

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  • SeanNufc87

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #20

    We dont have 60m for tv money for christ sake people, we get that at the end of the season, why would they give you money respective of where you finish in the table BEFORE the season starts?

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #21

    Newcastle v Leeds under lights at St James. Excellent footballing occasion. Looking forward to seeing them back in the EPL too before long. British football could do with a strong Leeds almost as much as it needs a strong Newcastle.

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  • Nufc-83

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #22

    Anybody else fed up with reading post after post about Ashley?

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  • SeanNufc87

    Sep 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #23

    Is there anyone on here who is taking part in the march or is part of Maoc? As id like to ask your intentions? Not ridiculing, just I can’t see an end game is all.

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  • roy

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #24

    A defeat tonight and old Pardew might be on his way.

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  • Spotlight Kid

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #25

    Slank@3

    Leeds were a very skilful side, I agree, which is a point often forgotten under the ‘Norman bites yer legs…’ reputation. I remember a game in ’72 I think when we narrowly beat them 1-0, but they were still playing the most outrageous cross field passes right to feet with instant control. In those days I like to think we supporters appreciated a skilful opposition player or a good footballing team, and the applause was always generous for a moment of flair (even a goal) – which is always easier when you’re winning, of course!

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #26

    If you are unhappy with the way Ashley is running the club and think you might want to show your concerns, then one way to find out if perhaps MAOC is for you is to join them on the march and then make a better informed decision one way or the other.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #27

    seannufc

    not part of them but had a brief chat…message there facebook or twitter, get a reply quickly.

    TDS

    it might not make a difference, but protests often do…look at how protests started the action that toppled man dictators around the middle east the last few years.

    Granted they are more serious issues and not just a group of marches through the city but it get people onside, let people know their disgust.

    The least we can do, if we don’t like ashley, is show him we don’t like him and let him know what he is currently doing is not something our club will accept. He may own the club but it belongs to fans.

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  • toontillidie

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #28

    Just for the record regardless of what team plays tonight we will lose the man management and the way the club is ran says it all this will be the start of our major decline after we let in 3 sloppy goals vs Hull we dont stand a chance in any cups there are more teams better managed than the freak show we have going on

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  • martoon

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #29

    Ed – where has Sammy gone – he is not even on the bench?

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  • Coach

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #30

    Nufc-83@22

    Yes.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #31

    Anyone seen the photo of Poyet on the phone on SS with the title “In Talks”?

    “Errr…Sunderland? Really?”

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  • jimmysmith

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #32

    If it’s any consolation to you Paolo, you lasted longer than your old pal ,compatriot and the truly excellent former Rossenari legend Genarro Gattuso, sacked after only six games and two losses at Palermo.

    Pards wouldn’t last 6 minutes in Sicily.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #33

    jimmy

    pards get a job elsewhere never mind keep it

    Ibiza

    Why not? they are a step up from brighton and he’s unemployed

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #34

    @Jimmy Smith

    Sick thing is Pardew would maybe do better in Italy than in here its more defensive minded which would suit him down to a tea!!

    For me tonight this is possibly the most important game of the season as we had the shocker against Hull and Pardew/Colo etc have spoke out about it and are apparently keen to fix the setback we need a proper performance and result tonight no shirkers welcome anything less and it would be a travesty

    If we can match teams in terms of desire and commitment then we should win the majority of our games because we do have individual quality on the ball , hate to sound xenophobic but sometimes the French players in particular look like they cant be bothered sometimes especially Mbiwa , Marveux and Cabaye I mean I can see why they cant be bothered with the regime but come on do it for the fans!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #35

    TS

    You can hardly compare the disgust at a regime that regularly tortures and murders people to a regime that hired JFK and didn’t sign an £8M striker!

    There are clubs who have had more recent success than us like Leeds, Blackburn and Portsmouth who are languishing in lower leagues. There are good sized clubs like Sheffield Wednesday, Forest and Ipswich who are also down there. I’d say they have it worse!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #36

    TS…Was just taking the p*ss 🙂 Have you seen the photo? They couldn’t have picked a better one.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/

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  • dcdick

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Pardew out !!!

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  • toon kk

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #38

    All the protests in the world wouldn’t shift Mash, he keeps himself hidden away and runs the club how HE wants to. Its his business and will make all the decisions. Jfk and Pards just work for him.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #39

    I actually remember some people on here posted that they wish we’d have sacked Pardew and hired Di Canio instead…hmmm…

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #40

    ibiza

    ah right….canny photo

    TDS

    I’m not comparing what Ashley has done compared to evil dictators but i was merely saying if some of them reform due to protests then it isn’t a totally meaningless exercise and having a protest may make a change of some sort, even just a little change in how things are done.

    I just think it’s the best thing we can do, protest before/after then back the lads during. It’s a good idea.

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