Newcastle Ambitions For Next Five Years Not Bold Enough

The first meeting of the newly created Fans Forum took place on Monday night at St. James’ Park, and the discussions centered on transfer policy, the financials of the club, the appointment of Joe Kinnear as Director of Football,  and the Wonga deal.

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Mike Ashley and Joe Kinnear at Saturday’s game

From looking at the minutes of the meeting, the Newcastle representatives at the meeting were Lee Charnley (Club Secretary), John Irving (Finance Director), Wendy Taylor (Head of Media), Steve Storey (Head of Safety and Security), Stephen Tickle (Box Office Manager) and Kate Bradley (Head of Newcastle United Foundation).

A couple of things to come out of the meeting was that Mike Ashley has not intentions at all of selling the club, so those fans who were hoping that would happen will be disappointed.

But one of the disappointing things that came out was that the five year plan consists of Newcastle bsimply eing in the top half of the table in the Premier League.

And the cup competitions are not a priority for the club, which seems to go against what Alan Pardew keeps saying, but the Premier League takes precedence because of the massive amounts of money involved – no surprise there.

If that’s true the chances of Newcastle winning anything in the next few seasons to break our 44 year duck are not promising.

And the only time we will hear from Joe Kinnear is in his match-say program notes, and we thought he gave out some decent information last Saturday.

And while it’s popular to knock Joe because of failing to bring in players over the summer, he’s very much restricted by what Mike Ashley allowed him to spend – and if Mike says the agents’ fees are too high – then we will not get that player – which seems to be what happened with Bafe Gomis of Lyon.

We have to hope that because Joe has a good relationship with Mike Ashley – he can persuade him to spend more of the club’s money than he really wants to.

But if Newcastle are going to be great again, we must show a lot mnore ambition than simply to say we want to be in the top ten and not be in any relegation trouble for the next five years. 🙁

That’s so soft as a target – and it’s simply not bold  enough for a club as great and steeped in history as Newcastle United.

And everybody knows that.

What do you think?

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9 comments so far

  • Ciaran

    Sep 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #1

    From previous thread, Spirit of Shankley are coming up and marching with us as a sign of solidarity over what is a wider footballing issue. A strong ambitious Newcastle United is beneficial for English football, and they are showing their support.

    Are you willing to let 5000 Liverpool fans march on your behalf while you sit in the pub before the game? Or stand in Greggs while there are others trying to affect change?

  • Ciaran

    Sep 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #2

    Anyway, I’m off to work.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #3

    I can understand liasing with Spirit of Shankly as we are playing Liverpool, and also because they are one of the better organised fans groups. No problem with that. Share ideas, thoughts solidarity that way. Having LFC fans actually marching, particularly 5,000 of them dilutes any impact that is wanted to be made by NUFC fans though.

    If they want to show solidarity, they can make a statement, have a banner at the ground, whatever,but as I said, having 5,000 scousers marching to change NUFC dilutes any message from NUFC fans.

    Not ill thought out at all, nor is it a trivial matter if indeed the group want to be taken seriously by the club.

  • G

    Sep 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #4

    We hear nothing but lies from MA / JK and their cronies. Why should we believe the fans forum results are any different? I think this is simply a way for the club to manage the clubs expectations, and nothing else. Frankly I feel if that is the case, then it’s a good thing, as if we do achieve anything (good cup run, Euro spot etc) then it’s seen as over-achievement. Does this also mean they will sack AP / JK etc when we are out of the top half of the table? Thats got to be good thing.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 25, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #5

    I’d argue those who are standing in Gregg’s or don’t join the march don’t really feel that the Liverpool fans are marching on their behalf. That is the sort of thing that winds people up about these groups, the idea that they speak for everyone.

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 25, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #6

    So where is the clear message that the match is going to convey? How can fans join a march unless they know exactly what it’s going to be about and what its spokesmen are going to say? When is this going to be announced or is it going to be kept secret until the day?

    Scousers have no place on this march and the fact that there’s an accepted possibility that they could outnumber NUFC fans is an absolute joke!

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #7


    There’s a difference between lies and plans that don’t work out.

  • G

    Sep 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #8

    TDS, ask Kevin Keegan? I know what you are saying, but I’ve seen more evidence of lies, than plans if you know what I mean.

  • Rooster

    Sep 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #9

    Ed, that summed it up perfectly, a top ten finish, suites all of them, so that’s win loose n draw for the forseeable future, it cant be anything else really with the manager DOF and coaches and outlay financiallyMA has employed, he knows we cannot compete with the top 6, such a shame, and they say the League cup is not a priority??? mmmmmm yea that would mean a way in to Europe and we don’t want that, it means more outlay.


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