Four Players Pushing For A First Team Start


Newcastle played a lot better last night  than we did on Saturday afternoon against Hull City, and that was a bit of a relief,  and in fact our record this season is not too bad,  and in the seven games we’ve played so far this season in all competitions, we’ve won four,  drawn one and lost two – and the two losses coincided with our two worst performances of the season – against Manchester City and Hull City.

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Yoan Gouffran rifles the ball home in the 67th minute

And last night we saw Yoan Gouffran score his second goal of the season, and it was a beauty, and this player looks very good, and he will be pushing to start the game at Everton next Monday night.

And as well as being able to score goals, Yoan offers the team speed and movement up front – he looks a great buy for the club.

And we thought Mike Williamson had a solid enough game alongside Coloccini in central defense last night, and it wouldn’t surprise us too much if  Mike keeps his potion in the side for the Everton game.

The Stoke-born defender does come in for some criticism from fans, but more often than not, the 6’4″ defender comes into the side  and does a good job at the back, and he will have done himself no harm at all last night, and we need his height and heading ability  at the back.

Mike could edge out Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa at the back at Goodison Park.

But the two star men last night were no doubt Paul Dummett and Shola Ameobi on the left hand side, and even before the game Alan Pardew had said both local lads deserved their chance, and they were looking good in training.

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These two Geordie boys played very well last night

There’s a couple of things these lad give to our side – first of all they are both English and we need more English players in the side – after all we are an English club.

And the two of them have come through the Newcastle Academy, and we need to see more local lads coming through the youth ranks and into the first team – and they are excellent examples to other youngsters that they can indeed become first team players at the Tyneside club.

Maybe our two biggest hopes at the moment are 18 year-old striker Adam Campbell and 17 year-old forward Adam Armstrong – both are local lads who currently play for the England Youth side at their age – and both are extremely promising prospects.

But after that terrible defeat on Saturday, last night was a good performance, and a relief too, with Gouffran, Williamson, Dummett and Sammy Ameobi all pushing for a first team start next Monday night.

What do you think?

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54 comments so far

  • Ciaran

    Sep 26, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #1

    I think many fans can pinpoint the negatives within the club. Many fans are probably annoyed, maybe even livid with Ashley’s ownership. Some fans may even not dislike Ashley but are of the mindset that he is not the man to take us forward and therefore change should be implemented.

    The one thing that I would say to these people is that they should perhaps try and get involved with ways and means to do that. By now we should have heard of various different avenues in which that can be pursued, so instead of sitting and doing nothing, do your bit for your club.

    Positively promote change, go into the stadium and roar the team to victory, be the best, more pro-active fan you can be for the betterment of your club.

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  • Wiz

    Sep 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #2

    Shola wasn’t playing last night, but of course you meant Sammy, Ed. We were efficient against a poor side. It would be quite unsurprising if we lost every single match in October. Even Sunderland will be a difficult game if I know anything about Gus Poyet. I shall watch carefully how promptly our interest in cup competitions is ditched in that event. Once we start losing, Pardew’s teams tend to keep losing. I like Pardew, but he is the managerial equivalent of a confidence player. Kinnear’s first major signing will be a new manager, I tend to think, and it will be well before the January window.

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  • Wiz

    Sep 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #3

    Ciaran, I like your posts, but there is nothing the fans can do short of outright rebellion. Roaring the team on will not discourage Ashley. He takes no notice of shareholders or the City. The City hates him because he disdains their views. He can quite easily take the hatred of the fans in his stride. He’s a sociopath, in truth. Normal rules of engagement do not apply to him. He reacts differently.

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  • Ciaran

    Sep 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #4

    Wiz

    I’m not promoting roaring on the team in an attempt to get Ashley out of the club, I mean that if we are going to be protesting out of the ground, we need to be proving to be a positive asset to the team while we are inside the ground.

    I don’t think outright rebellion is necessary, we want to ensure that everything we do is legal, it’s safe, and is not linked, in any way, to hooligan like activity. Peaceful demos on a regular basis should be enough to try and persuade Ashley to hasten his exit. At the very worst, as Sage says, we achieve nothing. However, if we do nothing, we will achieve nothing anyway, so we might as well try.

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  • lewisnufc

    Sep 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #5

    I would like to see Debuchy dropped, santon moved to right back and dummett at left back on monday. Debuchy just doesnt do it for me.

    krul

    santon, mbwia colo dummett

    sissoko anita

    ben arfa cabaye remy

    cisse

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #6

    it would be unsurprising if we lost every match in october or if we won a few and drew a few lol

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  • JAMSHA

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #7

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    Newcastle United
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    00.30 am
    ESPN INDIA

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  • jimBOB

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #8

    dont think I would start Sammy on Monday, definatly need to start having Gouff on the pitch more, he is a great player, plus if we have him on the left and HBA on the right, I would drop Cisse and Play remy instead. might just give him the wake up call he needs, apart from his goal he did absolutly nothing against a below par team.

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  • Jamiemac

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #9

    Still a bit cagey with MYM but I’d definitely be more worried with Williamson playing. Williamson has had some cracking games for us but also some shockers

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  • toon kk

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #10

    Cisse needs to be dropped to let him build confidence and work on his training, one goal isn’t enough. Same applies for Debuchy.
    Apparently Furguson was class lass last night, shouldn’t have sent him out on loan hes better than alot we have imo.

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  • jimBOB

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #11

    Jamiemac – do you not think williamson would cause more problems in Evertons box.. think of the round the back ball he nearly always gets his head on. im not in anyway saying he is better than MYM but he boads well for the way pardew has an attacking team mentality at the moment. mabey get an assist. long shot

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #12

    Toon KK . can you explain how dropping a player who has only just scored will improve his confidence?
    Fergie wold have no chance of making the starting 11 here at the moment. A loan is exactly what he needs to gain experience with regular games.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #13

    tequila

    it might not help cisse but i think a front three of remy, gouff and hba would be better currently and do more for the team.

    last night gouff impressed me, good finish and he then managed to hold the ball up and lay it off pretty nicely too.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #14

    TS I like Gouff as well however his scoring record over his career is something like 1 in 4 or 5. I see him as playing on the left of a front 3 rather than through the middle. Remy could play the central spot and perhaps Gouff on the left bt I would persevere with Cisse.

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  • jimBOB

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #15

    i dont think keeping cisse playing every game just to take him off on 70 mins with no goals is helping, he needs to sit one out because players around him are out perfoming him,

    its not all about confidence, (gok may disagree ) he needs to find the hunger for playing again, he seems bored alot of the time, and for someone to spend as much time offside and not change his approach, is just plain lazy.

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  • toon kk

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #16

    Tequilamag
    Cisse is letting the squad down in many games he has pretty much useless. Do you think he’d get a start at say Celsea just to build his confidence? He’d have to prove himself first.
    Sending Fergie out on loan will be good for him but he’s very good back up for us.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #17

    Jimbob, bit harsh to say he looks bored, not something I have noticed. He has looked frustrated because he is a striker and he needs to score goals. The service this season should be a lot better with HBA amd Remy in the side and I think the goals will come again.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #18

    Toon KK he would not get in the Chelseas squad never mind the side. But as for your point 3 managers at Chelsea have persevered with Torres which seems to me to be odd especially as they have much better options than us. We dont have the same options Chelsea have.

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  • jimBOB

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #19

    may sound harsh mate, but thats what I see. and last night was not really any different, he scored, that was it, apart from taking the ball off marv and squandering it he did nothing else. he is abit of a liability at the min.

    dont get me wrong i like cisse, but if anyone else was underperforming they would be dropped.

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  • SeanNufc87

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #20

    Can anyone name a club/owner where marching/protesting has been the reason behind a takeover? Im genuinely asking as I dont know the history of other clubs.

    I need to stipulate a few things to that question:

    Owner must have said he has no intention of leaving

    Owner cant be struggling financially

    And new owner must have made a positive impact on the club.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #21

    Everton is on Monday? Hmmm…I’d usually go to the gym and cycle while watching the match, but I’ll have done a 70 mile bike ride on Sunday so might not feel up to that then! Pub it is… 🙂

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  • jimBOB

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #22

    you would be better off emailing the worlds billionaires asking them to takeover.

    ashley has a free advertising stage with newcastle, one of the questions covered in the meeting one of the fan groups had with directors.

    is mike ashley paying to advertise SD?

    answer

    he is not paying to advertise, as it is free space he is using, but if someone else were to want that space they would have to pay.

    he aint going knowere.

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  • Mark

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #23

    Has anybody read the article on Di Matteo waiting for the Newcastle job? He’s turning down the Sunderland job because he thinks that Pardew will leave soon and he prefers (of course) Newcastle to the Mackems.

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  • JaxtheMag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #24

    it shows how bad we are when these 4 are pushing for a place, dummit mite make the fullback slot his in time tho. long way to go.

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  • laserfireball

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #25

    I’m going to keep commenting the same sort of thing on these forums and hope the ‘fans’ are listening. Went to hull game on Saturday, support from us home fans was appalling, easily drowned out by hull fans, and an abundance of negative comments. Now I’ve been reading, as I didn’t go (4 hours drive away), that home fans were drowned out again last night by the Leeds fans. COME ON NEWCASTLE FANS, STOP WHINGING AND START BACKING THE TEAM!!!

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  • Jamiemac

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #26

    If Gouffran replacing Cisse I have no doubt Remy will go in the middle of the front 3. Mind you it would be very fluid and the 3 would interchange.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #27

    laserfireball

    Well said sir. People need to stop the infighting and just get behind the team. Sure, people should do things behind the scenes to improve communication between the fans and the club but we need to be on the same page.

    If people are going to march, let it be a march to show how amazing our club is and let us roar our club to victory whenever possible.

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  • Jamiemac

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Comment #28

    jax

    Not really mate. Dummett has looked class since pre-season. Sammy has performed in every game he’s played this season (first team and reserves). Gouffran has always been consistent for us. I guess I agree about Williamson but he had a good game last night and played a large part in our defence when we finished 5th.

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  • martoon

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #29

    Listening to the commentary on BBC Newcastle they made a good point about clubs do not have reserve teams these days. So if we dropped, say, Cisse he would not get any proper match practice to get his form back. They were also useful for players returning from injury but now if you are over 21 tough.

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  • toon kk

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #30

    tequilamag
    Clelsea was only an example. As for Torres you can’t compare him to Cisse.
    You say he wouldn’t get in Chelsea’s squad, so you can’t rate him your self but you want him in our first team.

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  • Mark

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #31

    @Jamiemac

    Williamson wasn’t key to our defence when we finished fifth. That fifth position was due to the unbeaten run we had at the beginning of the season, when Colo and Saylor were the centre-backs. Although I agree with the others. Would’ve liked to have seen Campbell come on last night also. Was Sammy used on the right? That’s how it was described in the build up?

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  • Mark

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #32

    @tequilamag

    Torres cost Abramovich £50m, he’s going to be persevered with if its that amount and that man.

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  • nufc 11

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Thought Moussa could have stopped 2 of Hull’s goals on sat he loses his man very easy in the box and not great a tracking runs which has cost us of late, maybe cheick should come back the competion might get the best out of both players, Yanga has been very shakey too, Santon shud be moved to RB I agree not saying alot for the Jan signings am I?

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #34

    ToonKK Chelsea was an example but probably not the best you could have used. Just because I think Cisse would not get in the Chelsea squad does not mean I don`t rate him. Chelseas squad are way above our level. You can only deal with the possible options you have and dropping our best goalscorer on the basis that this would somehow help his confidence seems odd.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #35

    Mark, that is how I read it as well. He certainly does not deserve a spot on the form of the last 3 seasons. It has Abramovich written all over it.

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  • ronjohno

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #36

    Have you heard Pardew today.
    Manchester City now have to come to “OUR HOUSE”.
    Where the hell does he get these stupid expressions from.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #37

    Ronjohno. Who cares ? it s figure of speech. It makes not the slightest difference what Pardew says people will always find a way of using it as a stick to beat him with.

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  • Mark

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #38

    I think Cisse will start scoring again. With a more attacking, creative and pacey line-up, Cisse will start getting service and making runs.

    The difference between Cisse and Torres is that Torres seemed to lose everything, his touch, his pace, his ability to make runs, which was what made him a brilliant striker. He still had brilliant players around him.
    Cisse has had to make do with Jonas, Tiote and Ameobi to pass him the ball. When he was on his scoring streak he had Ben Arfa, Ba and Cabaye…

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  • toon kk

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #39

    tequilamag
    We’ll have to agree to disagree. You would stick with a player that’s not playing well and often lets the team down and I’d drop him at least to the bench and have Goofy up front instead.
    I suppose with being short of options up front makes it difficult all to save Mash money.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 26, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #40

    Maybe Cisse, Cabaye etc got told off of the silver tongued glazier that we were a dynamic forward thinking team that would be soon pushing for Europe, maybe that inspired our deflated wantaway striker to produce the form that propelled us into the Europa league, maybe when the realisation that a top ten finish is the aim and a Wembley stadium tour is the nearest he’ll get to the hallowed turf becomes more and more apparent, then the fact that he’s signed into a five year contract is a weight on his shoulders knowing Ashley won’t sell him until he’s in the last year of his contract, a lot of maybe’s but maybe I’m right.

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