Newcastle Players Do Take These Things Seriously

Sylvain Marveaux is one of the players who is trying to make the breakthrough at Newcastle to become a first team starter, and Sylvain goes against what we heard last Monday at the Fans Forum meeting, that Mike Ashley does not give any priority to the local Cup competitions, but only to the Premier League, which pays out between £60M and £100M a year – football is all about money these days.

sylvain marveax against Leeds

Sylvain Marveaux – in action on Wednesday night against Leeds

Alan Pardew has said he wants to win one of the local Cups, and Sylvain Marveaux today has said the players all want to win one of the Cups for the club.

This is what Sylvain had to say in the Daily Mirror today:

“The players take the Cups seriously. These games are really important for us. You don’t want to lose any games.”

“You never know, if you can win a few games you can win something and that would create history. We want to do that, we want to be the men who end the wait for a trophy here.”

“Don’t forget, most players in this squad have not won anything in their careers. One or two are lucky enough to have [done so], but the rest of us want to win medals and this is an opportunity for us to do that.”

“Why would we not take it seriously when there is that reward at the end of it?” “It means we will give 100 per cent in the Cup games, just as we do in the league.”

“Manchester City [who visit Newcastle in the last 16] is a hard draw, but it is a one-off game and we will have St James’ Park behind us, so why should we not think we can win?”

Newcastle face Manchester City in the 4th round of the Capital One Cup, and the game is at home , which should give us some chance, although we never seem to do very well against the very rich Etihad club these days.

But you never know,  and Alan Pardew has said the lads will give it a real go.

Who knows, we could even win, and then we’ll be in the last eight of the competition – and then  anything would be possible.

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14 comments so far

  • arctoa

    Sep 27, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #1

    What was said in that meeting is ridiculous. Particularly with the League Cup, you can win a handful of games against mediocre opposition and find yourself with a trophy and a quick passage into Europe the next season. Admittedly the League Cup isn’t much good for anything else, but I think that the FA Cup still holds some allure both here and overseas. Winning that would certainly attract players who might otherwise pass us over – and from a business perspective, being able to market the club as cup winners must bring about extra revenue and open new markets.

    Also the majority of the far north of England would go absolutely mental for a few months. Just look at the scenes in the 1990s when we gloriously failed to win anything.

  • arctoa

    Sep 27, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #2

    We should play a full-strength side against Manchester City in the next round and get at them from the first whistle. They’ll probably have a lazily-assembled team of fringe players and it’s still early enough in the season that a few of them might be rather rusty and off the pace.

    Putting out a weakened side ourselves against such strong opposition would be just accepting defeat and that’ll radiate into the team on the field – we might as well not bother showing up at all. We can get away with it against inferior opposition, but we can’t match shadow-team for shadow-team with the current top batch.

  • Sav

    Sep 27, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #3

    I agree, the lack of any ambition beyond fiscal is a disgrace and basically dishonest towards the paying fans. Sports teams are supposed to go out to win tin pots and accolades. If not, then what? What do they think we pay actual hard-earned money and travel all the way to SJP to see?
    But as far as describing Man City’s cup team as “a lazily-assembled team of fringe players”, arctoa, I think you are being a tad optimistic. Half of their second side would improve our first eleven considerably.

  • arctoa

    Sep 27, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #4

    Not really; I was talking in terms of their own standards. Complacency can be an issue with a squad that large, and they looked just that against Stoke recently.

    I fully agree that a fair number of their fringe players would walk straight in to our strongest match-day squad, but while they are fringe players at Man City they’ll be rusty and more than one or two will be rather disenchanted with life and that’ll translate to just going through the motions on the pitch.

    In no way was I suggesting that their fringe players are what we usually associate ‘fringe players’ to be! That’d be an insane statement to make.

    Mind you, no-one is quite reinventing the term like Mourinho with Juan Mata right now.


    Sep 27, 2013 at 5:49 AM

    Comment #5

    The Trick will be to Win something and not to let it become a “One – Off”!

    Then have to wait another 60 years before we win anything else?

  • Santon03

    Sep 27, 2013 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #6

    I watched Inter vs Fiorentina game last night and the commentator said something interesting :
    “Why would Fiorentina signed Ambrossini (36) and where would he fit in the squad? He fitted beautifully into the first 11 just like Pizzaro, it’s just like having extra coach on the pitch.”

    Fiorentina is going through a massive change in their squad since Montella took over, they sold 18 out of 26 senior players including Jovetic and Llajic. They bought outcast players like Joaquin, Pizzaro, Borja Valero, Rossi, Savic, etc and just signed Gomez (33) for 20mil. Most of the players other than Gomez, they got them cheap both old and young. They finished joint 3rd lst season in Serie A standing and almost relegated the season before.

    Maybe we need more old players with great experience to help the team perform better, other than Collocini we only have Shola. Just like the commentator said it’s like having extra coach on the field with great experience.
    Talking about Fio’s Rossi, how did we rate him when he was with us? He moved to Parma and Villareal became a star and even got into Italian team before nasty injury.

  • Santon03

    Sep 27, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Comment #7

    It’s just like Lampard and terry for chelsea, Giggs and Scholes (he was called back from retirement) for MU

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 27, 2013 at 7:14 AM

    Comment #8

    On Rossi, he barely got a kick for us, and when he did he looked out of place. From what I saw on his rare appearances at Man U he was the same. Maybe he wasn’t mature enough at the time, maybe the Premier league just didn’t suit him. Who knows, he has gone on to do very well though prior to injuries.

    On more experience, I think it is about getting the right type of player as well, and that is hard to do. Man Uand Chelsea have it because they have been there years, but a lot of both teams fans think that these players are now holding back the club, and shouldn’t be playing. Shola seems to hold to be very influential with our graduates, I guess due to him having been there and done it. Colo is great, and seems a calming influence. Maybe one in midfield, but who is there that is good enough to play as well? It is a fine line between there experience benefiting and there aging legs holding teams back.

  • Santon03

    Sep 27, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #9


    Sorry I only know mostly Italian players or played there.
    Gattuso, Zambrotta, Van Bommel, Drogba, Pirlo (contract end this year), Cambiasso, Walter Samuel, Klose ,etc.
    They didn’t have big wages, Pirlo 3.5mil euro for 1 year, Drogba 2mil.

  • John Tudor

    Sep 27, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #10

    santon ashleys remit buy em young and cheap sell em high win naff all

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 27, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #11

    I’d hate to see Pirlo in the Prem now, at his age he may not adapt to the different game style, and it would not be a fitting end to such a wonderful players career.

    It is a difficult call, and as Tudor says, Ashley isn’t exactly keen on bringing in experience due to a lack of resale value.

  • Slank

    Sep 27, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #12


    The Capital One Cup is probably our best chance of winning a trophy.

    We will not win the Premier League.

    The winners of the last twenty FA cups have come from the top four or five of the Premiership except when Portsmouth and Wigan won and got relegated at the same time. So with the exception of the two relegated clubs the statistics say that only those at the top table have a chance of winning the FA cup.

    Against Man City we should play our strongest team and I think we will win.

  • cyprus

    Sep 27, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #13

    My two bits regarding game etc., a day late!

    Tiote must surely be silencing the bashers, slowly but surely. He doesn’t shy from the ball, makes himself available, is powerful, can control the ball. Together with Anita, he keeps things ticking. My point: this is a better duo than the Anita / Cabaye one. The latter are two similar small players who can’t aspire to dominate a MF, even with Sissoko amongst them.
    I have often been critical of the Ameobis, but this new model may come good. He easily drifts past players and can easily take the ball away from opponents. Never thought I’d say this: “I like Ameobi.”
    And, inevitably, Gouffran: ‘The guy is good but he can’t score etc. etc.’, I’ve heard it said… This lad’s better than ‘we’ think, I think 🙂

  • Santon03

    Sep 27, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #14

    Lilo & Tudor

    I think we may missunderstood, but I don’t know you maybe correct.
    What Ashley doesn’t want is probably big wage old players or expensive old players like Mario Gomez (20million).
    I don’t know if they are free, Ashley would probably say yes. I’m not too sure about this because we haven’t gone looking for one.
    Our policy was supposed to be looking max 26yrs old players, but we signed Debuchy and going after Gomis.


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