The Battle Between These Midfield Pair – Good For Newcastle


We thought Cheick Tiote played a solid game for Newcastle United on Wednesday night, and certainly he will be pushing for a start at Goodison Park on Monday night, where we are hoping that Newcastle can pick up at least a point.

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Cheick Tiote – pressing for first team start

Having thrown 3 points away against Hull City, we now have to try to make up those lost points, and on Monday night it will be a good chance, although a tough game against an in-form Everton, the only unbeaten side in the Premier League right now.

Certainly Alan Pardew has said Cheick has been looking good in training, and he had this to say about the Ivorian today:

“On transition when we were attacking and we turned over the ball, we were more solid, and Tiote had a lot to do with that.” “He was back to near his best. He was a lot more comfortable in possession than last year. He looks more like himself and I am hoping for a big season from Cheick.”

“I didn’t think last year went well for Cheick in terms of the player he is, and that coincided with the team.” “When he’s at his best, I think we are at our best and defensively on Saturday (against Hull) he could have made a difference.”

“He gave us a little lift at Villa when he came on, so the signs are good. He has been unlucky to be out of the team because of injury, and he has a chance now to reaffirm the quality he has.”

Of course Vurnon Anita has taken his chance and has played very solidly for Newcastle since Cheick has been out,  and there’s no doubt that Vurnon is a very good technical player, who very rarely gives the ball away.

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Vurnon Anita – playing well for Newcastle

Alan Pardew talked about the man who has been keeping Cheick out of the first team starting line-up for the last few games:

“He’s an economical user of the ball. He does a lot of work, a bit like Tiote, which doesn’t always go detected.” “But he has his nose in front of Cheick at the minute, and Cheick will be desperate to address that.”

“That’s what you want, that’s the competition. Vurnon is under pressure to play well because he has Cheick Tiote, one of the best in the last few years in the Premier League, breathing down his neck.”

“But it’s his economical use of the ball which has been beneficial to us in recent games.”

Vurnon Anita and Cheick Tiote will give Alan Pardew some selection problems, but that’s exactly what we want to see, and it’s very good for the Newcastle side.

And one thing we like about Cheick is that he’s a great professional, and he welcomes the challenge for his place, and also seems to improve his form when his place under pressure, so that’s always good to see.

Competition for places is what makes players perform on the pitch, and with Vurnon playing so well, we can be assured the competition is only a good thing for the Newcastle team.

Long may it continue.

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105 comments so far

  • Ciaran

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #1

    There is no battle here for god sake! One is an average at best player with limited ability, the other can actually play football.

    If you are confused as to which one is which, then I am afraid you are past the point of rescue.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #2

    ciaran

    I still don’t think Ashley is that bad at stopping cup runs….we have got through two rounds, especially the leeds game we fielded a pretty strong side as well.

    It may be that we don’t target cups but i don’t think we dismiss them or try to get out early.

    It’s a balancing act for owners and managers to get these things right and so far this year we have, even last year we progressed well in europe.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #3

    TS

    No. What the club has said is that the cups aren’t the focus. So the league is number one priority. The cups are presumably nice to haves.

    If they wanted us to get knocked out of the cup early, then they could have just played a reserve team against Leeds.

    I think Pardew would only rest several first team players if it was either against much lower league opposition or we were under threat in the league.

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  • Maladoni 69

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #4

    What if you put both Mick Martin and Davy Mac in a room full of shovels and asked Pardew to take his pick?

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  • JaxtheMag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #5

    if the board have no interest in winning any cups the man city game live on sky is the game the fans should give a miss. there taking the piss out us all.

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  • roy

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #6

    Apparently we had agreed to sign both Tom Ince and McCarthy in the summer the deals were all but tied up. Ashley pulled the plug as they wanted ten grand more a week in wages than Ashley was prepared to pay.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #7

    Ciaran, I hope you take this as constructive criticism rather than a personal attack.
    Your post at @ no1 is a perfect example of why you rub so many people up the wrong way. Nothing wrong with nailing your colouurs to the mast as to which player you prefer but was the comment ” If you are confused as to which one is which, then I am afraid you are past the point of rescue.”
    The constant denigrating of anyone who does not share your opinion is totally unnecessary.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #8

    @ Roy source for this info ?

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  • roy

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #9

    A former Newcastle legend, who also said the players love Pardew, and understand he is being shafted by Ashley and that Kinnear will be gone in the not to distant future.

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #10

    Last Week Of the Season

    Capitol1 cup final – Newcastle vs Arsenal
    Last PL game of the season -Newcastle vs ??? . A win will move newcastle from 14th to 11th.

    Whom would you want us to focus on ?
    Who do you think Ashley wants us to focus on ?

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #11

    Roy well I sincerely hope the last part turns out to be true and it is heartening that Pardew still has the respect of the players. Knowing the parameters that MA sets out could well be true.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #12

    JaxtheMag

    No need to take it to extremes. The board didn’t say that they had no interest in winning a cup, just that the league would be the focus.

    They put out a strong squad against Leeds and as we’re now 4 games away from a trophy, it makes sense to go for it as long as it doesn’t jeopardize our league position.

    I expect we’ll put out a proper squad against City as long as we’re doing well in the league. If not, then I expect any player with a knock, is tired or is the only fit first team player in that position will be rested.

    Pretty much every club has the same attitude to be honest.

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  • roy

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #13

    I’m sorry if it all sounds a bit vague, but i have literally just attended a business lunch and the legend who does a lot of corporate work at SJP, said that Pardew, would love to bring the Keegan days back with the big signings but Ashley will not any of it.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #14

    Roy, apologies if I sounded a little suspicious but quite often when people make claims on here when challenged on the info it often comes down to the old mate of a mate scenario. We all know what MA policy is with transfers so I can well believe this to be true.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #15

    roy

    That’s not exactly gold dust though is it…

    The players have come out in support of Pardew several times and I think it’s pretty clear that he must have excellent man management skills to have retained the likes of Krul, Cabaye, Colo, Ben Arfa and Tiote at the club. Also, I he’d lost the respect of the players, then the first thing we’d hear about it is that he’d been sacked.

    I also think every managers wishes that the owner would spend a bit more money, the question is how much is Pardew fighting a battle against Ashley and how much is smoke and mirrors.

    As for JFK…no way could he know that. That might be his opinion but it doesn’t mean much.

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  • Ciaran

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #16

    Tequila

    Concerns are noted buddy.

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  • Quasimodo's tailor

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #17

    @Roy. I think your Geordie legend is exactly that. A leg-end

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #18

    Ciaran, no worries mate, I have been known to have a few battles on here as well.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #19

    I’ve been telling Ciaran/Ruddy that his posts are almost always extreme and that he rarely ever addresses another person’s post fully, but just likes nitpicking on a particular point that is often taken out of context.

    He clearly hasn’t learned but hey, if you can change his ways and bring him back to be a functional contributor to this blog, then I take my hat off to you…

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  • roy

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #20

    @17 jealous for being a nobody

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  • chuck

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #21

    At the moment we have at least four and possibly five players (if you include Sissoko) who could vye for the same role.
    Cabaye, who can both put his foot in, score, or play as a playmaker.
    Anita, not quite as good as Tiote when it comes to breaking up the attack, but an excellent distributer of the ball.
    Tiote as I stated excels in breaking up attacks, but his distribution needs a lot of work and tends to put the opposition into the stands, rather than give him the necessary nudge.
    Bigirimana, I expect a lot from this youngster, whom I believe will surpass both Tiote and Anita, has all the necessary ability, just give him some cameos to hone his skills.
    Sissoko, who has pace and technical skills, could be either the new YaYa Toure, or Patrick Viera, that is if our coaching staff ever recognized that, but at present they don’t appear to know what or where to best take advantage of him.
    The above is why I wasn’t too worried about Cabaye’s
    attempt to move on.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #22

    TDS, in general I lean more toward you take on Newcastle than Ciaran but it takes goodwill from both parties to end this feud. Ciarans debating style can and does put peoples back-up but to be fair you generate the same reaction as well.
    Debating on a blog in many ways is pointless as there is never any closure on the debate but rather a constant regurgitating of the same entrenched views.
    TS is excellent to discuss topics with as he takes a more Dialectic approach,. ie he will promote a thesis you can challenge him with an anithesis and often come to a synthesis which is the product of this discussion.
    Sorry to get all Hegelian on you all here but to me it is much better approach, especially if you are trying to win hearts and minds.

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  • 89Norcal

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #23

    Tiote has looked better this season.

    Won’t be long before our fans make yet ANOTHER 180 and start talking about the depth we have 😆

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  • chuck

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #24

    Listen, these blogs are for debate, not all agreeing, and if you don’t like what others say, then debate them.
    Don’t complain about how they make their point, unless you are over sensitive.

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  • JDdubai

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #25

    I think Tiote is nailed on to start the everton game, after how crap we were defensively against Hull I think going to Goodison, Pardew will drop Tiote in for sure. Who misses out, no idea but most likely anita.

    Not saying its what I would do but knowing Pardew I reckon it will happen…

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  • Quasimodo's tailor

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #26

    Now now Roy. Careful sunny. I think you overdid the hard stuff at your business lunch.

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  • Spotlight Kid

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #27

    Dodger@10

    The Cap 1 Cup final is in March, not May, so the questions don’t arise. Try the FA Cup….

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #28

    Chuck, depends how you define a debate, traditionally there will be a vote at the end of the end of the debate and one side will either win or lose. That does not happen on here.

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  • theartfuldodger

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #29

    Spotlight Kid,
    Yr right. Anyways just trying to bring out the conflict of interest.

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  • 89Norcal

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #30

    Guess there was some heated arguments on here again?

    It’s really simple to prove your point guys:

    “[Insert argument here] and if you don’t agree you are delusional/an idiot/a moron/beyond help.”

    🙂

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #31

    Regurgitated arguments are more interesting than posting a line up from one of the smallest squads in the PL, hence a post every 45-48 minutes when the topic is line ups.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #32

    Norcal,
    The best way to win a debate is by putting FACT, at the end.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #33

    The best way to lose a debate is by calling someone a cretin at the end of it.

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  • 89Norcal

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #34

    @JFA

    Don’t wanna give away too many secrets mate, we’ll be up to our eyes in master debaters before we know it.

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  • 89Norcal

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #35

    Another is persistently demanding supporting evidence for an opposing argument while providing none whatsoever for your own.

    Damn it… we’re doomed now.

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  • Pokat

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #36

    Chuck I think we all get the point of a blog, and obviously its not a place for the thin skinned but tequilamag is correct there is no need to challenge an opposing view to reply with insults by patronising remarks.

    Apart from that, Ciaran is just like a leaf obeying the wind on the Anita/Tiote comparison. Its all the rage to bash Tiote but all he needed was to haul in his discipline a bit to be a top DM and he appears to have raked it all back too far. I would like to see more of the Tiote of old who placated opponents midfield forays with his reign of fear ha ha. Like a few other players he has come into fashion to slag off of late. Anita on the other hand is undoubtedly more busy, using pace rather than vision, puts himself about and tries not to waste too many passes. But he doesn’t boss any area really. They are both built for different purposes so I see them interchanging as tactics dictate.

    All done without implying any mental deficiency on anyone others part 🙂

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #37

    JFA not saying everyone should agree, but it can get bloody tedious reading the same old arguments every day. Having said that I have been just as guilty in the past of going for blood.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #38

    Pokat, re Anita Tiote I see it as horses for courses choice. Anita is probably my pick when we are playing more technical sides. Tiote for the Stoke type games.

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  • Pokat

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #39

    Oops I forgot to put FACT in – rats!

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  • Pokat

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #40

    @38 exactly. And just saying that would have saved me a lot of typing,

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