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Alan Pardew’s Interview After Everton Defeat – Video

2:18 pm, Tuesday, October 1st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 229 Comments

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  • 1 Ciaran // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    I’m sorry Ed, but your comment “It wasn’t good to hear Newcastle fans chant ‘we want our money back'” why so? These fans paid good money for their ticket, travel, as well as the ludicrous policy of being a club member to go to away games, and they are entitled to voice their angst after a shambolic display.


  • 2 Rooster // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    So Mikey Williamson in against Cardiff??? I think we have seen this fella enough to know although he dosnt seem much worse than what we have we are going back 4 years if he is going to be taking over the 5 spot, god help us, what a frigan mess, MA the big gamble is on yet again, getting a buzz are you pissin about with us, your Manager and DOF are the biggest joke in the prem, you employed them, if its not working I suggest you`s all ship out, and take that 1980`s coaching staff with them and Graham Carr while your at it, sick of the lot of you.

  • 3 belgrade fan // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    krul debs colo mbiwa dummet sissoko HBA Cabs santon on a wing gouff remy. Is this rocket science??

  • 4 Rotonda heights // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    What is Ashley trying to do to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can’t take much more.

    He wouldn’t sell to the Mansoors
    He constructively dismissed KK
    he ditched Virgin for Wonga
    He appointed JFK and Pardew
    He won’t accept Pardew’s alleged resignation offer

  • 5 belgrade fan // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM


    MA wants things to stay like they r now. Us to stay in the league (position not important at all ), AP and JFK yes man so he can taking money from us.

  • 6 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    He wouldn’t sell to the Mansoors – no proof of this or even decent speculation
    He constructively dismissed KK – yes he did because KK wouldn’t toe the line (didn’t expect him to either so MA should have known better)
    he ditched Virgin for Wonga – don’t get this and probably never will
    He appointed JFK and Pardew – Pardew was a decent enough choice but not really an upgrade on Hughton
    He won’t accept Pardew’s alleged resignation offer – Again mindless speculation. No proof of this. If Pardew wants to go, he goes, Ashley can’t stop him from quitting.

  • 7 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    Pardew played the team that most people on this blog were calling for yet the defence was taken apart time and time again.

    We were better in the second half (I don’t buy it that it was 100% down to Everton relaxing) but the first half was pathetic.

  • 8 belgrade fan // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:50 PM


    Nobody called for Tiote.
    And yes, in second HF Everton didn’t push otherwise it could be 5-0. What do you think about my team?? post nmbr 3

  • 9 Ciaran // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    God forbid someone criticises poor Ashley. In he steps on his trusty white steed, (more like his giant ass) to save the day!

    Huzzah! Good sir, Huzzah.

  • 10 cyprus // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Barton still follows NUFC

  • 11 Wiz // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    I wonder if this was before or after he tendered his resignation, which apparently was refused by Ashley.

  • 12 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    belgrade fan

    Yes mate, plenty of people called for Tiote. Besides, if Cabaye wasn’t fully fit, who else should start in that position?

  • 13 BRABOT // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    If y may,y prononced 4 remarks,
    1 goal;error of Santon (Aidarra better marking and faster in the race )
    2 goal,marking error of Mapou
    3 goal,failing Colo,lake of power againt Lukaku.
    4,AP ,good idea to replace HBA by Cabaye.
    Bad idea to replace Anita by Cissé because at this moment,the team was well set and dominated the midfield .
    Y think that AP took too many in the first half time and didnot measure the power of Lukaku .
    Excuse for the English,it is only my opinion ;

  • 14 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    some things are not looking good, the future is not bright,

    last season after 6 games
    9 points 8 goals for 8 against
    this season after 6 games
    7 points 7 goals for 11 against

    less for more against,, the guy is is filling fans full of sugar, and most still believe him and feel sorry for him

    in his words he has a better stronger team than last year, and he still is going backwards

  • 15 AndyNUFC // Oct 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Ciaran, Ed wasn’t criticising the fans; “it was bad for them to do it”, he was making the same point the fans were – it’s bad to watch football like that so it’s bad to have to chant we want our money back.

    Also, don’t give it your “Sorry, Ed, but…” – you’re not sorry. You shamelessly plug your own blog on his (because you need to nick some readers of course), then have the audacity to pick at something he said – in the process making him out to be somebody against the fans for having an opinion!

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    The players have had it drilled into them that mid table is all that is expected of them and it shows.

  • 17 belgrade fan // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM


    We had 2 DMs no need for Tiote at all. And he is just not good enough for us. Shit player. Watch my team, post number 3

  • 18 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:01 PM


    does that mean hull have had top 5 drilled into them??,, the outclassed us at everything

  • 19 ArtyH // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    The team he chose may well have been a lot of fans idea of a good choice but the way they were told to play is another matter. Why do we not pick up players in our own 3rd? Santon & Debuchy did not make up the space between there forwards. We always stand off them and let them run at us! Its crazy with a statuesque C.B like Colo and Y.M was pi$$ poor last night. We should get Gary Neville in as a tactician as he hit the nail on the head last night together with Carriger. Much as I hate to say it!

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    I don’t know where you get the impression we are all behind Pardew, we are stuck with him and I honestly can’t see Ashley hiring a more expensive replacement.

  • 21 belgrade fan // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    We player with 3 DMs. Sissoko IS NOT AM! so what we expected. Our brilliant manager will never try Santon as a winger, it is a supreme tactic for him

  • 22 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    I think Garry nevil could be a good coach,, im very impressed with him, knows the game well, won lots, had a great teacher,

  • 23 theartfuldodger // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Ashley is the owner and is responsible for each and everything at Newcastle.
    HE has given us bad results on the football pitch for over a season and there is no correction in that.

    Pardew will be sacked at season ticket renewal time ?

  • 24 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    I don’t really pay much attention to Hull, but we have had everybody who is allowed to speak at the club saying a top ten finish is our goal, that places us in a group of very mediocre teams.

  • 25 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    jail, not all but still to many for my liking,

    are we really stuck with him?? I don’t think so, and whilst I 100% agree with you that the bigger problem is Ashley, I do feel we can get a better manager cheaper, where it be Zola or Poyet, both not proven, wont command huge salaries, both seem to play the game the right way
    or he could go for a manager from Holland, Germany, france, anywhere really,

    Southampton, brought a guy id never heard of in, did not speak English, turned them around, this season, playing great football, at the right end of the table, with a squad valued at half of ours,

    what could he do with ours ??

  • 26 Himanshu Dhingra // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    That we had to put Ryan Taylor in our 25 man squad as a home grown player epitomizes Ashley’s NUFC

  • 27 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:12 PM


    top 6 is where we should be aiming, :(

  • 28 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Would Zola be a yes man and be comfortable bullshitting the fans.

  • 29 Ciaran // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:15 PM


    Calm yourself bud. Didn’t realise you had an insight into the inner machinations of my mind, or Ed’s mind for that matter. You must be brighter than I thought.

    I was giving my opinion on something Ed wrote, which, in context, actually does refer to how he didn’t want to hear the fans chanting it. Maybe you just didn’t pick up on it.

  • 30 Himanshu Dhingra // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    This was what some would call 7th best team in the PL that tore us apart.

  • 31 AndyNUFC // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    At no point did he infer it’s bad to hear the fans voicing a negative opinion towards our – you read the thing in the wrong context.

  • 32 AndyNUFC // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    our club or paying money to watch them*

  • 33 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM


    I don’t think so,,

    but for me its a little more than just being a yes man, I think most managers are,,

    for me, pardew has been given a great squad to try and turn into a good team,
    he is failing at this,

    he is bullshitting mostly to get himself out of a hole he is digging himself by playing the wrong players in strange formations,

    and if im honest, well its the football for me that is the most important part in all of this, we don’t watch football under pardew, indervidual bits of skill from good players, but not much team play

  • 34 Klatoon // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Raise ur hand if, after Baines’ booking u thought, “switch HBA over to his flank and finish him off”…nw remember who our manager is and laugh at urself for thinking him capable of such nuclear-physics esque tactical nous.

  • 35 catchy in norway // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM


    now hey,, cut this such thinking out boy

  • 36 Ciaran // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:32 PM


    Unless Ed tells you what context he meant it in, I don’t think you can categorically claim that I read it in the wrong context. I can see where you would think he meant the other context of which you refer to, but I don’t think you can see the possibility that he meant it in the context of which I am referring to.

    Phew I need a lie down.

  • 37 Himanshu Dhingra // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    What is it with NUFC and French based Centre backs? Boumsong, Rosenthal, Cacapa, Yanga-Mbiwa

  • 38 Ciaran // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:44 PM


    We bought Boumsong from Rangers.

  • 39 theartfuldodger // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Right guys, Anything left at NUFC to be cheerful about ?

  • 40 Tommyy // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Afternoon chaps, haven’t posted in a few weeks due to my ever increasing disengagement with everything NUFC. I stick to watching the games and that’s it, even then i expect to watch a shambles of a performance and if it’s anything better I feel happy for a very short period of time, and if it’s crap as it has been I feel ‘oh well nothing new’.

    I’m afraid I’ve lost the excitement and wonder that used to be supporting Newcastle now. Even that pre match buzz lessens game by game. Reading Pardew’s comments today sparked into life again as I just thought to myself, I’ve heard the same thing for 18 months now and nothing has improved, and I mean nothing at all.

    We are spiraling out of control and it’s due to a number of factors which have now set in too deeply to remove in my opinion.

    As the fans lose the passion we slowly turn a great club legacy into a distant and shadowy form of what it once was. A true crime to a sport which at it’s heart should enable fans to enjoy watching football.
    That young child crying in the stands last night upset me greatly, why should young generations of fans support the club with the passion that we have/had when there is absolutely nothing to ignite it?

    Many people on here just don’t seem to realise what a huge issue this club faces. Our perception of a big English club has all but slipped through our fingers and we’re now in an era where it is nigh on impossible to regain it.

    The bottom line being it’s a sad sad time where we see a great piece of local and national heritage crumble and fade into something which will inspire nothing in the people who once felt of it as an extension of their own life.

    RIP Newcastle United for me. Times have changed, our time at the top has been and gone.

  • 41 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Well we are in the league position where we expected to be fighting at the bottom?
    IMO it’s simple we have not got a centre back fit for the premier league
    Colo has lost his pace and desire,mapou is simply poor full stop, Williamson you are a having a laugh and taylor is completely un reliable
    Goals conceded demonstrate this issue but we all knew that this was going to happen when the decision not to sign reinforcements was made

  • 42 Toon Tang // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    can someone tell me why santon is continually used at left back??

  • 43 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Toon tang
    Cause Pardew hasn’t the imagination or confidence to play him as. A midfielder a la bale

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Last season we conceded 68 goals in the league -fourth worst team.
    This season so far in six games we have conceded 11 -only Sunderland have conceded more. Give or take it is about 2 goals per game we are conceding.
    This suggests that our problems of last season (defensively) have not been rectified at all -and it also suggests that the problems will continue.
    A few of the more discerning fans suggested a big/strong/commanding centre back, much to my regret nothing has been done at all to rectify the situation. Colo has had his day and needs replacing.
    History is repeating itself.

  • 45 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    I just can’t fathom why pardew would offer to resign? Surely he would do that during the summer when not backed, or last season when we were playing badly.

    I don’t see pardew as the type to walk away, where would he go that’s a bigger club? Unless he finally grew a pair

  • 46 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM


    Every good side in the league has one commanding centre back. We need one too. Look at vidic, kompany, mertesacker, terry, agger/skrtel, vertongen, hangaaland, distin, etc

    These are the kind of players we need alongside colo.

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM


    I agree. A football club is part of a community. You see buildings, estates, countryside etc all protected by legislation as it is an important block of the community. The way the club is currently being run is a total lack of respect for fans.

    But then again have a cheap family section is to be commended.

  • 48 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:35 PM


    That’s an elegantly despairing post.
    I felt the same emotions about that little lad last night.
    Perhaps some of our “sensible” posters should explain to him that he’s stuck with it and there’s NOTHING he can do about it.
    Yes, there have been bad times in the past. I was there.
    But this is the FIRST time Newcastle United has been knowingly miss-sold as a football club.
    That is, one that tries to compete for tin pots. Like football clubs do.

  • 49 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    IMO Volvo is as much the problem as the other 3 ,he is not the same player he was and we are living on the past
    It scares the living daylights out of me to think how many Liverpool will get against us in a few weeks we all saw last season how colo hates playing agaist saurez and now Sturbridge firing as well
    You just can’t go on concede ping goals like we are and have any hope
    Lets face it
    Ripped apart by man city
    Ripped apart by Everton
    Gave soft goals away to hull
    Good win at villa
    Scrapped a draw with west ham

    A very long season ahead my friends

  • 50 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Sorry Volvo should be colo
    We would do better parking a Volvo thou


  • 51 Mister Tuff // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Transfer – well certainly some agreement there about a decent centre half -it may be that a partnership with Colo could evolve.
    I’m really hoping that Colo gets a boil on his jacksie and then Percy will send him back to Argentina to recuperate for a few weeks.
    As for the story about Percy offering his resignation -supposed to originate from Talksport. Who knows whether it’s true. I could however imagine El Gourdo and his cronies putting out a disinformation story like this in an attempt to take some of the heat off Percy.

  • 52 Ashton // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Our squad is more valuable than Everton’s and quality wise we are better. Yet they made us look like a bunch of idiots last night.

    We have so many players of form it’s pathetic and Pardew is the only person to blame for that.

    When the team plays with absence of organisation, commitment and pride, it’s the managers fault. Alas most of our moronic fans refuse to believe this simple fact and would rather blame the owner who has signed 5 top class players in the last ten months.

  • 53 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Not surer
    Barclay is going to be world class if not already
    Lukaku a beast
    Brains fantastic
    And on and on
    Where are we more valuable than the toffees

  • 54 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:47 PM


    I agree the manager takes the blame for poor organisation and lack of cohesion but 5 top class players?

    Debuchy – looked good for Lille and France
    Mbiwa – doesn’t understand defending and makes so many individual mistakes, can’t even hold a line
    Sissoko – runs a lot but rarely produces anything useful
    Gouff- like this lad a lot
    Remy- very good forward

    Hardly 5 top class players though, 2 good and 3 average

  • 55 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:48 PM


    I’d save even keeper
    I’d swap their whole back 4 for ours
    I’d say pretty even in the middle of the park
    Then I’d take lukaku, mirrales, pienaar over our front three but very close.

  • 56 Mark // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    List of potential managers anyone?

    Marcelo Bielsa I like the look of.

  • 57 Jail for Ashley // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Only a moron wouldn’t realise that it was Ashley who hired him.

  • 58 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    TS…the thing is most of the players you all are mentioning seem to do so well for their country and for their clubs in the past!

    …what’s changed? You don’t get bad over night do you? Our problem seem to be that more or less everyone in black and white looks like crap these days :-(

  • 59 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Martin jol to be sacked by Fulham next week and replace turnip
    From bad to worse

  • 60 Maladoni 69 // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Maybe we should park a Volvo behind Krul Yorky. No had on, make that 2 Volvo’s :)

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:55 PM


    Maybe not suited to the new league?

    But the mistakes mbiwa is making like not holding the line and not marking people is nothing to do with the coach. Surely he should be able to make these decisions during the game himself. The defence has no leader pulling them into the right shape.

  • 62 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Yes, we are shite but there is nothing new there, is there?

    MA will take corrective action if we continue to slump – fire Pardew, sign players in Janaury etc – just do not expect a return to the nineties under him.

    I am more concerned about the Hull game that last night, those are the games we need to win.

    I do feel Pardew’s time is running out though.

  • 63 Mark // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:58 PM


    I looked at Everton’s back line and saw no way through, honestly, didn’t know where the goals were going to come from. Remy looked isolated, especially with Gouffran pushed wide left. The distinct difference last night was that they wanted it more. They were pressing and pressing and pressing. Our back line didn’t get a moments peace, not only was Lukaku a beast but they were forced to pass the ball or make a mistake. Everton were allowed to outpass us. No pressure on them whatsoever!

    Mbiwa is sh!te. Santon is clueless defensively. Debuchy could tell you what position he plays in. Sissoko doesn’t understand tracking. And Tiote has lost everything that made him a good player.

  • 64 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    I still can’t believe Chelsea let Lukaku go out on loan though, really silly thing for them to do

  • 65 yo-yo // Oct 1, 2013 at 4:58 PM


    I do wonder if Ashley could be sued under the Trades Descriptions Act ? Definitely the defence is in name only…

    The thing with our defence is that they have had long enough to gel. Colo has lost his mojo and needs replaced. Collectively they are just not good enough – the numbers prove it. We’ve shipped 4 -3-3 in just three games after the 6 and 3 at SJP last season. Our defence don’t realise football is a game of two halves as they just don’t turn up half the time. We need a couple of tall £10m quality CBs and some FBs who can actually defend as well as run the line (or cut in without variation if its Santon). Build from the back. A lot of us wanted the defence reinforced this last window so we’re not daft enought to hope they’ll just get better on their own. Once their heads go down after another couple of shocking defeats then we may end up on another marathon losing run and only be propped up by the Scum.

    Even a top coach can only do so much with underperforming dross, and we don’t have one of those… so 16th place looks a reasonable expectation for Ashley just now.

    I do wonder how long Pardew will stay – he has his pride and ego and cannot afford to have his reputation totally undermined by the clowns above him in the food chain. He will not want to end up as totally unemployable like PDC.

    I think the posters who have mentioned lack of competition for places have really got it spot on. We cannot have any real strength in depth if Willo the journeyman is the answer to our dire defensive frailties


    Please do retract the claws – they appear so quickly every time anyone remotely criticises you. There is more than a tiny grain of truth in Andy’s points – just take it, learn and move on.

  • 66 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Mapou is I am afraid keen and eager with great strength and pace
    But a poor footballing brain
    He is worse than bramble and a complete panic buy last jan
    Maybe send him on loan but no where near a premier leaguese player at present

  • 67 Ashton // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Us signing 5 quality first team players in the last 10 months is a feat only bettered by Spurs, Man City, Chelsea and maybe Liverpool. Yet our clueless fans will have you believe that we are regressing and everyone in the league is blowing us out of the water when it comes to improving the squad. Idiots really and they deserve to witness games like last night because the amount of folly here is abominable.

  • 68 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Our squad is not better than Everton’s in terms of quality.

    Try combining the 2 teams and I’d end up with:
    Ben Arfa

    So that’s 7-4. That’s my opinion based on the abilities of those players, not their performance on the day.

    Before the season started we had no idea that Barkley was going to be so good, they hadn’t signed Lukaku, Barry or McCarthy and we thought Baines and Fellaini were off. They had a very good transfer window…

  • 69 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    yo-yo, nothing is so black and white but I think Pardew has to take a big share of the burden.

    It is up to him to make sure the players no their job and how to do it. They clearly do not.

    That said, they can not be absolved of all blame. Collectively, they are crap – playing staff and backroom staff. I think it is time for a change in manager first, then look at new players for January.

    I think Pardew has had his 6 games and has not convinced anyone. No injuries or European games as excuses this time around.

  • 70 John Tudor // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    inconsistency shown
    yes cant defend for toffee

  • 71 geordiemark // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    pardews lost the players you can see it a mile away, ashley must know this and it is now 5-08 pm so how come pardew hasnt been sacked yet

  • 72 geordiemark // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    I reckon cardiff be pardews last game in charge really cant see us getting anything from that match not with what happened at everton last night to go by

  • 73 Ashton // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM


    Last time I checked we had a more valued squad.

    Transfer Sage

    Debuchy was the best RB in League 1 before signing for us. He was a French title winner and a full French international that was Francee’s best players in the Euros and was MOTM against England.

    M’biwa was the youngest captain to left the French league title. He was one of the best CB in League 1 and a French international prior to joining us.

    Sissoko is also top class and a full international. So is Remy and Goffran is also very good.

  • 74 John Tudor // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    pardew and ashley are the men to steer us on where?

  • 75 yo-yo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM


    In which case he may well jump before he is pushed as he has his own pride to think of – I could see him at Palace fr’instance.
    If we are into % for the blame then I believe we are playing a 4-3-3 Ashley 40%, Pardew 30%, Players 30%

  • 76 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM


    We have an affordable defence, defending in an affordable fashion.
    What are we going to replace them with? Club’s skint isn’t it?

  • 77 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Value and quality
    Two very different things

  • 78 geordiemark // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM


    ashley isnt skint hes just tucked 60million away in his hidden NUFC bank account he can give some to pardew as a payoff

  • 79 Ashton // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:14 PM


    Exactly we lacked the discipline and the heart to pressure them. Our shape was all wrong and most of our players had no idea what to do. And those things are down to the manager.

  • 80 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    According to we have an identically valued squad to Everton (£150M) but that’s including 26 players for us and only 25 for Everton.

    However, we have a lot of players in the 24-28 range that are valued highly, Everton have old players like Howard, Distin and Osman that are valued low because of age and young players like Barkley and Coleman that would sell for a lot more than their valuations.

  • 81 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    I am still failing to see the mid table predictions come true for us now. We sit where we belong, 16th, with a very poor goal difference and what looks to be a very disorganized defense most of the time. How often do we play a good 90 minutes? Almost never. It’s very rare indeed like seeing Ashley spend money. I’m sticking with my prediction of an 11th to 14th place finish for the season but it’s looking a lot more like 14th now. Our games coming up are very tough as well. Where are the points going to come from? Are we actually going to beat Cardiff in Wales? Or Liverpool at home? After the mackems we have Chelsea and Spurs. By then how will our points total and goal difference look? It’s close to last gasp time for Pardew.

  • 82 Ashton // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:17 PM


    Are they? To me a quality player is more valued than a s*** player.

  • 83 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Can people please separate Ashley’s money with NUFC’s money. They are two different things. There’s no logical reason that Ashley should give any money to NUFC and I don’t recall the previous owners doing that either…

  • 84 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Actually another horror show like the first half yesterday against Cardiff should seal Pardew’s fate. He looks like he needs to be put out of his misery. The pressure must be enormous. Supporters screaming “we want our money back” yesterday and I don’t blame them at all. Even the Geordie kids were crying. How much longer with this? We’ve got to join the 21st century and get a decent modern manager in. And a good coaching staff. A few who speak French. It’s obvious to everyone that this isn’t working. But is it obvious to Ashley yet?

  • 85 theartfuldodger // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Nothing at newcastle “Has to be” unless its about penny pinching..
    After loosing the next 2 or 3 as well, Pardew could very well be here
    No one understands Ashley except for the penny pinching rule above

  • 86 yorkymag // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    So on your logic
    Caroll is more valuable than surez give over

  • 87 yo-yo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM


    Aye and the club will be even more skint if we are relegated – knock a bit off the old capital value that would. And as you point out no-one wears a replica shirt with beancounter on the back

    G2 you and me both .. 16th is almost aspirational.

  • 88 geordiemark // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM


    ashley owns the club and its his responsibility to keep the club in the premire league is it not because if we go out of it he can wave bye bye to the next 60m for his back pocket

    john hall many times put his own money into the club to buy players, I remember a time in the 70s all the directors had to put in 13,000 quid just for the toon to keep afloat and half of them wouldnt but it was ok for them to rip the profits from sales ie macdonald over 330,000 quid

  • 89 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    TS…if you ask me Colo looked just as bad as Mbiwa and I would even go so far to say that both our fullbacks look questionable at times.

    I don’t buy we have been so unlucky to buy a whole team not suited for the PL! Something else is wrong and I know where my money is 😉

  • 90 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Even Ashley must finally realize yes men don’t make good managers. He has done the experiment. It has failed utterly. Pardew has completely lost the players. To start like we did yesterday is completely unacceptable. The players are losing all confidence. Internationals are starting to look like League One players. It’s pure madness to continue like this, especially with the schedule we have coming up.

  • 91 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Winners and Losers! – The talking point on Merseyside is David Moyes spent 10 years trying to get Everton above Manchester United and this season he has finally, well…………..

  • 92 geordiemark // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Ian Toon

    my tip is for man u to be in the top 12 this season thought moyes would have a moutain to climb this season after mr red nose quit its a funny old game alreet

  • 93 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    I really think we should go for Di Matteo, I just think that guy is a winner.

    We have a track record of turning winners into losers but, as I think everyone agrees, Pardew is not working out.

    I never thought he was anything more or less than mediocre but, he had his 6 games:

    Man City – fair enough it happens, ask Man U
    West Ham – hammers are crap and one dimensional, should beat teams like that
    Fulham – we won but they are very poor and we were not convincing enough
    Villa – an oasis in a desert
    Hull City – how does a team concede the lead twice and then lose at home to a team like Hull?
    Everton – not good enough in many, many respects

    Cardiff may be his last chance

  • 94 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM


    SJH put his own money into the club but as loans and charged interest on it. Both the Hall and Shepherd families made a lot of money out of Newcastle United. The difference was that they were also fans and spoke like fans so the rest of the fans could connect with them. Also SJH could hardly have done any worse could he? He took over when we were on the verge of relegation to the 3rd tier for the first time in our history, whereas Ashley took over a few years after SBR and with the Toon Army desperate to return to those times.

    Sure, he could loan the club more money but why would he do that? You’re damn right that he’d do it if he felt that we were at risk of relegation or if he felt that we could gain more revenue than he put in by league placement or European qualification. But that’s just down to speculation…

  • 95 Ashton // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:35 PM


    What gave you that allusion?

  • 96 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Everton really pinged the ball around in the first half. They have decent wingers and full backs and we had no answer for Lukaku. Power and pace up front. It was clear that Mirallas picked up a knock and that slowed them down in the second half. Mirallas is one of their best. Our shape was horrible and we couldn’t handle their attack at all. We were very flattered by the final score. It easily could have been 5-2.

  • 97 Pokat // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    I think we have a real jekyll n hyde team all right. I think pards needs to stop paying any attention to the blogsperts who keep saying willo is crap jonas this shola that Colo is past it and play hatem all the time, santon is magic blah blah blah

    Willo illustrated what happens with a player who know the boundary of his skill and can be relied on to stay in his zone and get that round thing as far away from there as poss ha ha. Santon and Debuchy need to be re educated or replaced. They are LOUSY wingers and patchy defenders because of it. Never play Hatem in front of Santon again its like opening a door. Dummet is the player for that if you have to but why play hatem left anyway if he’s too weak against baines then what is he any good for? . Anita I like his work rate but he’s like the hokey cokey in out shake it etc nothing productive really happens.

    Goofy though, I am starting to like, early days but a canny worker. Sissoko is lost. So is mbiwa. Tiote just hasn’t progressed.

    Saying all that, the two halves show that if you make the right choices we can beat a team like everton 2-0. Bottom line, Pardew is lost, he needs a tactics coach.

  • 98 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Poyet – sacked by Brighton and is now taking the club to court
    Di Matteo – sacked by West Brom, rejected by Birmingham, won FA Cup and CL within 2.5 months of taking over and then sacked

  • 99 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Pokat, if Pardew needs a tactics coach, “what is he any good for?”

  • 100 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    If Ashley lets this continue then he deserves whatever he gets. He is a buffoon for a football owner. We are a laughing stock again. The sad thing is he has so much money sunk into us that he will need to suck the blood out of us for several seasons yet. How this can be a rewarding pastime for him is beyond me. He’s made every mistake it’s possible to make with a club and invented a few as well.

  • 101 Pokat // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Geordietwo – overly crediting everton ther. Full of gusto and were gifted a poor team shape by pardew. You saying they turned into 2 goal losers 2nd half coz one of theirs gets a knock – doesn’t explain how they had maybe 2 wild shots on goial 2nd half. We are due some credit. 2nd half performance would not be ashamed to come away with a point.

  • 102 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    TDS, was a point to your post @ 98 or were you just recapping for everyone

  • 103 Pokat // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    P – ‘Absolutely Nuthin – Say it again!
    Pards – What is he good for? Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa..’ He he he.

  • 104 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM


    Every time Anita gets the ball he gets his head up and looks for runners around and ahead of him.
    If YOU ever spot one, maybe you could text him.

  • 105 toon kk // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Why do people think we’re better than we are?
    Last night’s first half performance was the worst football ive ever seen, You can’t blame Pards for that.
    Our squad needs a proper leader Colo has lost the plot.

  • 106 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Denis Cassidy had a 20-month period in the nufc boardroom. His book is a quick read in order to compare and contrast the Hall years with that of Ashley. Certainly Ashley doesn’t avoid criticism but Cassidy disapproves of the way the Shepherds and Halls ran Newcastle. Is he plain just embittered when he calls them “vandals” at the point they tried to force their way back into control of the PLC board. I am too young to really appreciate what actually happened. But it made for an interesting read.

    Cassidy implies Sir John used the club first as a promotional vehicle for his own regional interests and later as a cash cow for his other business interests. Cassidy states that Newcastle abandoned corporate governance best practice when they removed independent directors from the board in favour of the majority shareholders’ nominees. The Shepherds and Halls are painted as draining the club to the point of financial chaos, to their own personal benefit.

    It also gives an account of how much was taken from the club by the Hall and Shepherd families in their time at the club between 1996 and 2007. The total comes to nearly £144 million.

  • 107 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    GeordieTwo, I read a very interesting article about MA a week or so ago.

    By all accounts he is very stubborn in that he wants to do things his way and will not listen to anyone.

    I think that is what we see in his actions. He sacks people when he thinks he needs to, buys 4-5 players just like that, renames the stadium etc etc.

    Though some of his actions are baffling and inexplicable at times, he can not be accused of not taking bold decisions. I think his anthem is “I’ll do it my way”.

    Alas, he has bought himself the right to do that with NUFC, whilst the rest of the world look on in sheer bafflement. In himself though, he is supremely confident that sooner or later he will get it right.

    This is of course speculation since the guy does not speak about these kinds of things publicly.

  • 108 John Tudor // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    ok tds
    he spends buggar all keeps pardew “are you content with that” then if not we drop like a stone he is either in it to win or he has to go

  • 109 Pokat // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    BandB – maaybe that’s what I am getting at about Anita, he looks like he is in the wrong type of team. He needs people around him who are moving away from opponents and can actually pass and receive well :( I like him. But he looks misplaced in our mob.

  • 110 Rooster // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    The harsh reality of it is, JK WILL PROBABLY SUCCEED AP, JK would be great for the tv SKY etc but it really is a step to far, MA will do what he wants, he knows he can get away with it, a couple of wins and 52k back in at the cathederal, would not matter who was in charge. I hate watching us play at the moment and Pardew just winds me up, JK oh my God, I think it would be back to watching grass roots football for me, I don’t mean the way we will be playing I mean I may well switch of from the Toon altogether.

  • 111 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Geordiemark – Knew right pushed the boat out for Martinez and early days but looks like money well spent. To think that Lukaku is on loan shows you just need to have the desire and determination to get players in particularly on loan.

    Last season at SJP Lukaku with WBA caused us massive problems but fortunately he was subbed before he could do any lasting damage.

  • 112 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    For Knew read Kenwright-

  • 113 Thump // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    It’s only been mentioned a few times, but let’s be honest here: TalkSport are the guys who mentioned Pardews “resignation” and TalkSport talk a lot of shite. Forget about it and move on.

  • 114 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM


    Just recapping in case people start thinking that Poyet or Di Matteo are nailed on to be the next SBR…

  • 115 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Pokat @101 I think it could easily have been 5-2 mate. We caught a few lucky breaks and got a wonder goal from Cabaye. We did improve in the second half but how could we not? It was a good idea to bring in Willo to protect Mbiwa more than anything. Colo was just as bad and Krul had a terrible game. Almost gave away another goal with a weak throw out to Tiote. It was a nightmare all around the pitch for us. Santon gets caught out of position too often, Ben Arfa mostly disappeared and the midfield had no chance of finding Remy by himself in the first half. All in all another disaster.

  • 116 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    John Tudor

    Who has to go? Ashley or Pardew?

  • 117 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    To those who say Everton weren’t that good I would ask who is the only undefeated team in the Prem? And who will finish higher up the table at the end of the season? We look like a shambles at least half of the time. How many times have people posted that we never play a decent full 90 minutes in the last 2 seasons? A large part of the blame has to go to Pardew in my view.

  • 118 yo-yo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Pokat BandB

    Sadly you could see Anita being exactly the type of player who would thive under Brendan…

  • 119 yo-yo // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    or even thrive

  • 120 geordie157 // Oct 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    the problem for me is lack of leadership in the side, despite his critics I think we lost some of that English fight and leadership when Barton and Nolan left.

    Mbiwa last night was shocking, the fact Wilo came on and showed him how to do the basics sums up one of things that’s wrong with our side. A few of our imports think they can simply turn up against anyone who’s name is not man city, arsenal, spurs, Chelsea or man u.

    we need a no nonsense centre back asap, one who the others listen to and organises them.

  • 121 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Very interesting post P @107. It all sounds very likely but he can look at the league table any time he cares to. We are in 16th and have a poor goal difference. That’s not debatable. He’s had more than 6 years now to get it right. How long is it going to take? Stubborn people can have their noses rubbed in it and his looks a little raw by now.

  • 122 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Enough criticism from me. Let’s get on with it. Cardiff next. I’m going for a 2-1 loss. My heart hopes for a huge comeback win though with Remy getting a hat trick. Either way I’ll cheer for the team but can’t say the same for the 3 stooges.

  • 123 John Tudor // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    the lot can for me
    pardew first will show willing appeasement

  • 124 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    You’re absolutely right Geordie157 @120. We need a boss at the back who can lead by example but also clear some ears out when needed.

  • 125 Pokat // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    G2 – if goofys had gone in and remy not missed his sitter… I am sure there is a 2nd half inquest going on at the bluenose house as well.

  • 126 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    The first half last night was like watching a premier league team take on a table football team.
    Anita found Ben Arfa with a forty yard ball that hit him right in the solar plexus. Perfect.
    It is what he had to do because Tiote and Sissoko were like cattle casting long, still shadows in the twilight.
    I was reminded of that scene of The Battle of Britain where the Spitfires jump some Stukas over Kent. “No fighters chaps,” drawls Michael Caine, “help yourselves.”
    Which I think is probably every opposition manager’s team talk.

  • 127 Readingmag // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    sorry not what we what…..becareful what you wish for
    It could be a Joke Kin ear

  • 128 John Tudor // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    hell kinnear might be a better bet to have than parpoof
    he will rid himself for us

  • 129 toon kk // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    I wonder what the reason is behind our inconstant performances ? You don’t know what we’re going to play like in any game. It all can’t be blamed on pards.

  • 130 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Good points there Pokat @125 but no team can concede 3 goals in a half and not look like sad sacks. Perhaps instead of 5-2 it might have ended 5-3 but that’s about it. It was a poor second half from Everton I would agree though. If they play like that they will lose very soon.

  • 131 Readingmag // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM


    bring back KK….before you start all moaning at my point of view… I am old.

  • 132 Thump // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    @GeordieTwo: While I don’t disagree with you, I think Everton weren’t anything spectacular. We just made them look brilliant in the first half. Realistically, had our defence been doing the job they’re paid to do, the first half would likely have been a draw.

  • 133 Marty-Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    We all know that AP is inept in his team set up and tactics at times but if we get rid,tell me who there is that’s gonna do any better that actually would work for MA?
    Gus Poyet-no PL experience as a manager but not a bad shout I’d say
    Zola-great player in his day but can he hack it as a manager in the PL?
    Who knows,but the last we need is someone in for 6 months again.
    I’d be happy with one of these-Laudrup,Rogers,Martinez
    All three have their teams playing nice football,Rogers was hated at the start at the pool as it didn’t go well changing things at the beginning.
    Martinez and Laudrup on paper haven’t as good a team as ourselves but are at a whole other level on the field.
    We wouldn’t get any of them to come here anyway with the regime.
    The other thing that probably will happen is Jokeinear will take over when AP goes.

    News:Napoli owner looking at investing in a team in England ……please buy us,thank you very much

  • 134 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    I honestly don’t think pardew is the problem.

    I think he’s an ok manager who, if left to do his job the way he wants would have us much higher.

    He is constantly undermined by Ashley. He can’t sign the players he wants and the ones we sign probably aren’t his first choice but Ashley’s choice based on graham Carr.

    He’s said openly he wanted a commanding centre half (Douglas) and a strong centre forward (gomis) and the club are not prepared to get them for some reason.

    These 2 players would make a huge difference to our team and wouldve cost peanuts in today’s crazy transfer market.

    Not blaming him but Carr also recommended maiga, gervinhio, gameiro and erdnic. Maybe he’s not the genius we make him out to be, mbiwa, sissokho, debuchy, Anita haven’t exactly set the world on fire!!

  • 135 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Thump @132 you could be right but there have been too many defensive malfunctions over the last 2 seasons mate. We’ve shipped 6 goals in the last 2 games. Three of them against Hull at home. It just isn’t working out. Pardew has said he emphasizes defense and spends 4 of ever 5 training days on it. If so then we are truly a nightmare at least in part caused by him.

  • 136 Ciaran // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM


    Claws? That was no more than a mild bark back at him. Funny enough, he went very quiet afterwards. Like always, your concerns are noted.

  • 137 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Newcastle fan Kyle Matthews spotted Sunderland players out for a stroll before their Premier League encounter against Liverpool on Sunday afternoon – and decided to play a little prank.

    He wrote the letters “SMB” on a card and got Altidore and Ba to pose with it. When the players asked what it meant, he told them it was a Sunderland fans’ group.

  • 138 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    I just can’t buy that anymore Harley @134. I used to think he was a mediocre manager but time has shown differently. He is a bottom 6 manager and that’s where he’ll have us at the end of the season if he stays on. It’s a shame but this is not his type of team. Foreign internationals are definitely not his forte. Ah well let’s bring on Cardiff and see.

  • 139 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM


    Yes he would sign more Elliott’s & more Obertans, are you on a wind up what part of Pardews carrier even slightly suggests he can be a success, pleas point me in the direction as i have failed to find anything from his past that would suggest it to me.

  • 140 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Geordie I don’t want to defend him too much as I agree the performances have been abysmal. But I can’t help wondering what team he would actually field if all of the transfers were down to him.

    I have a feeling Nolan, Barton, ba, Simpson, perch and carrol would all still be here. He loves tiote, cabaye and Jonas but I feel he’d much rather spend his budget on top defenders.

    Only a hunch but I think we’d be one of those well organised teams people hate playing against if he had all his own way.

    Not great to watch but much more successful.

  • 141 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    men in white coats for Harley please

  • 142 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

  • 143 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:56 PM


    I don’t neccesarily think he’d be successful in a way that that has us challenging the top 4.

    However if he’d been given say £30 million after we’d finished 5th and told to spend it however he wants I don’t think we’d be in this position now.

    All hypertherical I know but my opinion which unfortunately will never be proved.

  • 144 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    We’ll never know Harley mate. But we have numerous internationals in the squad now who aren’t playing well. That has all happened since they came to us and I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Debuchy, Santon (Italy U-21), Sissoko, and Mbiwa have been abysmal on and off. The same with Colo and now even Krul is starting to look dodgy. How much more of this is going to be acceptable to the owner? I can’t imagine Pardew with us beyond October. But then who will he hire? The next nightmare begins then as Ashley is a coward who needs yes men.

  • 145 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Fatman I don’t need any white coats thank you very much.

    Just because my opinion differs from yours no need to be rude.

    I’m sure we have very different opinions in many aspects of life. I think it’s good to eat healthy etc but not everyone agrees.

  • 146 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:01 PM


    From one bitch to another.
    Ouch! :)

  • 147 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Geordie like I say I don’t want to defend him too much as its been awful this last year.

    I’d still swap him for an upgrade any day but unfortunately under Ashley I canny ever see that happening.

    It’s a really depressing situation we find ourselves in and I hate to say it but I think it’ll be like this for a good few years.

  • 148 Rotonda heights // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM


    Pardew said he was very happy with the squad and that it was a lot stronger than last season. 6 players didn’t just magic themselves here in Jan. Players look great before they get ”Pardewed”. Sissoko being the most obvious case in point

    Pardew’s whole CV is shockingly average and mediocre to hold a position at a club like NUFC. He will never repeat his one and only top 6th finish in a near 16 year rmanagerial career.

    Pardew has never won anything meaningful but did manage to nearly relegate 3 different teams and had record losing streaks at 2 different clubs.

    If he wasn’t Llambias’ and Ash’s drinking buddy he would never be here now.

  • 149 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    John Tudor

    There’s simply no way to force Ashley to sell. Anyone demanding that is just wasting their time in my opinion and they just add to the circus around our club. Engaging with the owner, getting behind the club and perhaps campaigning for more ambition (with Ashley or more likely with a new owner) is the way to go in my opinion.

    As for Pardew, once MA decided to keep him on this season, I said he needed to be given some time to work with the squad. Given we have few injuries it should be a prime squad to work with. Considering last season, I don’t think he has too many games left before a reasonable owner needs to make a change.

  • 150 Rotonda heights // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    I don’t think it’s coincidence that so many of our players are all so badly off form. they didn’t come here as poor players

  • 151 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM


    Not wanting to sound to defensive about pardew here but I don’t really think he could come out and say otherwise.

    He can’t say in public that he hasn’t been backed and wishes he had a stronger squad.

    I totally agree that the players have dipped in form but I don’t think a lot of the players we have are his type of players.

    That is not a good thing by the way I’m just pointing out that I don’t think this is the squad that he would’ve built given full control.

    I also don’t think he’s good enough to trouble the big guns but I definitely think we’d be higher in the league.

  • 152 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    We need a big tough CB who is good in the air but who doesn’t? Colo is terrible in the air but often sublime on the ground. But he needs someone to handle high balls consistently well. If Saylor wasn’t such a clown I would say it was meant to be him but he has no discipline. For me Willo is a stand in at best. We’re just not getting anywhere. Having Joe with us is a disaster. Nothing done except Remy which was already underway. That’s why we continue to struggle each new season now.

  • 153 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:16 PM


    Come on then, campaign for some more ambition.
    Tell Mr Ash that he’s letting the side down, directly, without recourse to your “why should he? meme.
    Laissez Faire bit the dust when Dickens shamed rich and powerful men into accepting that destitute and crying children wasn’t something you could just drown out by talking very, VERY loudly.
    Of course, Dickens is fashionably unfashionable these days. Sentimental old fool, with his silly ideas about “community.”

  • 154 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    A good full 90 minute performance against Cardiff would be a breath of fresh air even if we only manage a draw. Then we get the international break with the players feeling more confident.

  • 155 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Harley Pardews 2 players that were down to his recommendation were Elliott & Obertan so tell me how suddenly hes likely to do any better with £30m i would not trust him with 30p

  • 156 GeordieTwo // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Spot on BandB @153. The wealthy have become far too loud mouthed again now. The tide is turning though. They’re being caught at their slimy dodges. Put a few in jail and we might see a change in their attitude.

  • 157 Rotonda heights // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:29 PM


    if we had a pardew team ie people like harewood and Mullins ahead of no hopers like Tevez and Mascherano
    we would get where ?

  • 158 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:31 PM


    Community! There you go, you hit the nail on the head. I was posting a few days ago by saying that is what is missing from the club.

    The sense of community is in the connection between the club and the fans and we have allowed the owner to dictate the mood of the club rather than the fans dictate that mood. I know things like separating the singing fans (I haven’t been to SJP for a couple of years so haven’t witnessed the difference) and obviously I know the rest too but the fans can retain that community feel if they really want to.

    SJH created that because he was a fan as well as an owner, because he spoke with passion and charm about the club and engaged in positive PR. KK and SBR both oozed charm and passion for the club so we have been spoiled in both of those eras.

    Appealing to the greater public because people are starving or dying is one thing – most of the footballing world really don’t care that Mike Ashley got a questionable sponsor or didn’t sign a striker this summer and many clubs have bigger issues than us. There will be no great public uprising to convince Ashley to change his ways or move on. There is only one person who will decide when change is due and that is Mike Ashley. And that most likely relies on another person or group stumping up a large sum of cash (at least £250M) to buy the club.

    It just seems to be the nature of protests that people are always complaining about the negatives and demanding (often unrealistic) change. I prefer protests that focus on the positive. Not of Mike Ashley of course, but of NUFC.

  • 159 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Time4change have their statement as:

    who needs to know it’s…

    I’d love to see 10s of thousands of Geordies (not Scousers) march through the centre of Newcastle chanting something like:

    Carrying banners of SBR, KK, Shearer, MacDonald and anyone else they feel embodies the spirit of our club. I’d love to see a whole social media campaign that focusses on the positives of our club and reminds our owner, manager players and the fans of what truly makes our club special. A new owner won’t make our club better, it’s the fans that will do that. Maybe some of them need a new owner to feel that connection again, maybe they just need to see some passion from some people associated with the club.

  • 160 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM


    He wouldn’t be buying the likes of harewood and Mullins now. They were what were available at that time for a club like west ham on the financial restraints he had.

    A club like Newcastle on the back of a 5th place finish could’ve attracted some real top players if the board had been more ambitious.


    Gervinhio, erdnic and maiga were carrs.

    Obertan and vernon were fergusons.

    Kezman and shevchenko mourinios.

    All were awful in the premiership.

    And what do you mean “Elliott”? He’s been a great signing!!! Never let us down.

  • 161 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM


    To pick up on Slank’s favourite chestnut.
    I can remember 18000 fans shaking the windows of my flat across the park back in the bad old days.
    Last week the Leeds fans couldn’t hear us from the Leazes End.
    There is something up here you don’t get. Perhaps you can’t figure what it is Geordies get so bloody particular about.
    I don’t give a flying fart what “most” of the footballing world thinks.
    You should take that little lad for a game of tennis. It might be just what he needs.

  • 162 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:43 PM


    Sorry I just read what you said properly.

    I remember it taking a whole for those 2 to settle. They looked awful at first and no one could understand what all the fuss was.

    It wasn’t until they aclimatised that they looked good, which is very common with foreigners. By which time he was gone.

    We seem to be drifting away from my point. My point is I don’t think pardew is great but given the chance to build his own team I think we’d be doing a lot better.

  • 163 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    car crash Elliott is an accident waiting to happen he flaps more often than a flock of seagulls.

  • 164 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    what was the score at home against Liverpool?

  • 165 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:49 PM


    I don’t think I get you…are you saying I don’t understand what Geordies are so particular about? I think I understand it better than a lot of Geordies to be honest! Some people can’t see the wood for the trees.

    And who is “that little lad”?

    I get the problem. What I’m more concerned about is the solution.

  • 166 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    I see the rumour is that Pardew offered to resign last night and that Ashley talked him out of it???

    Firstly, Pardew would never walk away from this club unless he was receiving a big pay off to do so.

    Secondly, Ashley would never turn down the chance to get rid of someone who has 6.5 years left on his contract for nothing

  • 167 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:51 PM


    That little lad is someone who wouldn’t figure in your world view, so don’t worry about him.

  • 168 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM


    That wasn’t Elliot’s fault. Krul has looked bad this season too. You cannot blame that on Elliot.

  • 169 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    yes i can & i do

  • 170 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:56 PM


    just like i was the 1st decenting voice over Pardew, and i@m the same with Elliott we got what we paid for.

  • 171 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 7:58 PM


    If you’re referring to SBR’s comments, I’ve used that quote before to say that the fans own that sense of community around the club, not some businessman who likes to run things on a tight budget and watch as his empire grows. I get that isn’t the Geordie way. I lived up there for some time and despite having Scots to the north and Yorkshire further south, Geordies are the most friendly and generous people I’ve ever met in the world.

    A tight owner who would put a miniscule percentage of his wealth ahead of making 52,000 people happy for a bit is completely alien to the average Geordie. I get this, I really do.

    The wealth of Newcastle isn’t in its big businesses or fancy bars. I’ve never heard anyone go to Newcastle and they focus on the shopping centre or the quality of bars, it’s always that the people were vibrant, friendly and passionate (or over passionate if they went to the Bigg Market!)

    I get it. Ashley and Geordies are like two completely different species. Ashley won’t change because he can’t and sadly some Geordies don’t seem to be able to change either.

    So we have stalemate…

  • 172 wolfshead@toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    ppl who say ppl have selective memorys have selective memorys themselves (haters) it was dembas goals that fired us to 5th what seems like a long time ago now

  • 173 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    @171, I don’t think geordies are generous and friendly personally

  • 174 wolfshead@toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM


    were not its a myth :-)

  • 175 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Arsenal are tearing Napoli to pieces here with some special football

  • 176 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:06 PM


    Well there are some knob heads like anywhere. But I remember when I was looking to buy a house and couldn’t find a place I wanted to view. I asked a guy who was washing his car for directions and he invited me inside his house, made me a cup of tea and his wife printed out a map for me.

    That’s just one example. I loved my time living up there I really did. I only left because of work.

  • 177 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:07 PM


    I just think Ashley needs to find a way to freshen up the club and squad in a better way. There is no shame in selling one or two players and using that money to buy 5/6 to improve the side. All teams apart from the very very top do it.

    Teams like Napoli, Arsenal, Spurs, etc all have done this well.

    I think holding onto players is good but not if it prevents players coming in. I’d rather lose and cabaye every year or every other year to make sure we get more quality into the side.

    I get this increases wages etc but you also need to be shipping lesser players out and the same time so the overall cost doesn’t increase silly amounts.

    There are plenty things he can do which doesn’t require him to spend his own money (which most owners dont do anyway).

    The biggest thing he could do which would be most cost effective is a new manager. Pardew is reported to be on 400k a year, he has 7 years left so sacking would cost a max of 2.8 mil (i presume) which is the cost of small transfer.

    I think the time has come now where we know what pardew gets and a calculated gamble on another manger should be the way forward.

    Nobody can ‘sack’ or ‘kick out’ ashley (can protest but thats it, still might not go) but ashley can get a new manager within a couple weeks.

  • 178 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM


    Brilliant stuff isn’t it. Arsenal are the best footballing side in the league by a distance, play some amazing stuff and remember they are missing vermalen, wilshire, cazorla and walcott tonight.

    Ozil is a special player, never knew quite how good he was until i watched him for arsenal.

  • 179 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Jack, I have to say good for Wenger

    All those armchair managers who think it is about making as many flash signings as possible and he has proved that so long as you have some quality, it’s all about what you do on the training ground.

    If only we could have a manager like that, he would make a pub team competitive

  • 180 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Transfer Sage

    We are nothing but a business to Ashley that he is looking to offload at the first chance, therefore he will continue to run us with the smallest amount of investment possible………….the problem being no one wants to buy us and we are stuck in limbo

  • 181 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM


    I agree. Unless there’s a significant turnaround against Cardiff and that continues for the next few games, then we need a change. We all thought that the summer would give them a chance to sort a few things out and it was looking pretty good before the Hull game. But losing to Hull after winning 2-1 and being taken apart by Everton isn’t good.

    I feel it’s still too early to take the decision to sack Pardew but I think he’s definitely walking on egg shells now.

  • 182 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM


    exactly, big money signings are good for instant success but if you dont have the money there is no harm in signing the odd big player but bringing in a lot of youngsters and unproven players to keep building the squad.

    Something i would appreciate more from our lot if we invested in a good manager and a good academy set up.

  • 183 wolfshead@toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    @ 40 million i would hope he is special lol

  • 184 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Transfer Sage/P

    Wenger has been written off every season for the past five or six years but he has never failed them imo. He had them competing with clubs that are still spending hundreds of millions and changing managers for fun. I’d love to see Jose build a side like this without spending millions to do so

  • 185 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:14 PM


    I think Pardew has had three years and there are no signs of improvement. Sure the play has improved a bit but thats more individual efforts than anything built around a team.

    I just don’t see anything positive about the way we set up, it’s always up to relying on one or two of the more creative players to try and do something instead of working on a team goal.

    I think thats why we can score but why we struggle to defend, goals can come from individuals, good defending must be done as a single unit, not a collective of 11 individuals.

  • 186 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:17 PM


    exactly….jose is a top manager but he never goes to club which doesn’t spend the most in their league, always goes to the club with the best resources so what he achieves isn’t above reasonable expectation. Granted it still must be done so fair play, but he makes sure he has the best chance to succeed.

    Wenger has had to cope with the club building a new stadium and selling players to fund it and keep them in the black. No he has a bit more money i think we will see him spend in wisely, like he did on ozil.

  • 187 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    and by the way, I am not watching that game but Benitez is no mug and Napoli are on the ascendency this season

  • 188 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:19 PM


    napoli are a good side but a bit like spurs they are dealing with an influx of players after selling a couple big names in recent years…doing well but still even more potential in the side.

  • 189 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM


    why is it not the time to sack Pardew when we have made no progress from last season, loosing the last 3 home games 10-0 would have had another manager sacked and it pick up from where he left off who will take the blame for this relegation? Beardsley.

  • 190 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Thats what sets Wenger apart for me, Fergie as well as he won the league last season with a side that no other manager would get into the top five…………… Moyes is now finding out

  • 191 wolfshead@toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    pardew out jfk in?

  • 192 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:23 PM


    The Geordies aren’t great entrepreneurs. The Scots used to burn and reave any signs of entrepreneurship every high holiday, as we did to them. It gets into the blood.
    We chucked up some great engineers though, but.
    Can I thank you for respecting the line between pushing the debate to ultimate frankness and just being insulting.
    I respect you for that.
    Off to watch some costume dramas now. Don’t wear yersel oot.

  • 193 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:23 PM


    Pardew has proven that despite all his talk and BS nothing has changed and we look as poor now as we did last season. He needs to go and he needs to go soon or we may not be as lucky as we were last season

  • 194 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM


    i was unsure on pardew last year but thought i’d give him from jan to the end of the season to see how he settles the new players in. What seemed to happen was they strated bright and all have faded, except gouffran who has grown i think, considering he isn’t played up top like he likes.

    I then thought to replace in the summer but when we didn’t i thought i’d give him a month or two to see if the football was improving and we were showing positive signs….but we still have the exact same problems as we did last year, so it’s time to go for me.

    Watching us last night you’d think that we train each player one a different pitch and they only play together on mathcdays, they were allover the place last night.

  • 195 wolfshead@toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    costume drama lol

  • 196 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    fatman, changing the conversation slightly, I think despite talk of stability, Pardew’s time is running out.

    As I said earlier, he has no excuses this season bar perhaps the lack of signing a striker. That said Remy has stayed fit and justified his loan fee. The problem has mostly been defending a just generally team performance.

    A wobbly start is acceptable as the team gets into a stride but, he is running out of time.

    We are likely to get another humiliation against Liverpool so if we get nothing at Cardiff, it will be looking very bad for him.

    Di Matteo for me.

  • 197 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:25 PM


    I’m not one to twist anyone’s words so can I just confirm what you have just said to me.

    You blame the Liverpool result on Elliot?

  • 198 wolfshead@toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    im pretty sure ashley doesnt know matteo

  • 199 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM


    I think thats harsh on man utd…i think the forward options of rooney ,rvp, hernndez and welbeck was the best in the league, then the back 4 was a solid unit, good players there. Then carrick is a solid player with kagawa too, then nani and valencia wide options is good.

    impressive to win the league at a canter but still think better than top 5.

  • 200 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:28 PM


    I’m at the point where any change is good (with the exeption of jfk, curbishley, that type) but anything different is good for me.

    I want to see a manager who can get these lot playing as a team. Maybe they will still be hopeless but it will be good to find out.

  • 201 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Transfer Sage

    If Fergie was still there they would be top of the league or very very close to top

  • 202 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    wolf’s heed, you forget moosh…

    JFK knows everyone in football so he can just speed dial him and offer him free pies in exchange for managing the team – what Italian would resist geordie pies

  • 203 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:31 PM


    totally agree, they’d be around top spot, but he was an amazing manager.

    I think the team they have now is very very good, not on of their best but still good.

    Moyes changed too much too quick with removing all te backroom staff, by doing that I think he will be the one who gets all the blame and allows a new manager to come in next season who will be given more time.

    Nice to see man utd fans back in the real world and dealing with all the rubbish the rest of us have to.

  • 204 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    by the way, i know this means nothing but

    JFK looked like he scrubbed up well last night, almost looked professional.

  • 205 BandB // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM


    Lots of my friends are in costume dramas.
    Footman, maid, whore, gaoler with the hideous complexion and few spoken lines.
    When they re-do Bride of Frankenstein, I’m in for her taller cousin with the extensions from Cutz.

  • 206 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM


    not totally but he’s not blameless Harper only conceded 1 against arsenal so a bit of a difference. Elliott is worth what we paid for him just. he erratic at best.

  • 207 p // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    well I think fergie is a prime c$%& but, you have to concede he is the best manager of all time. It is difficult to argue with that.

    Everytime we got stuffed, I was relishing the thought of the time when fergie would leave and they would be a normal club again

  • 208 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:41 PM


    I just think that seeing as MA decided to keep Pardew in the summer, an awful half in the last 2 matches isn’t enough to sack him. I’m not saying I don’t want a better manager, I’m saying I don’t think MA will sack him yet.

    I have no doubt that our squad is good enough for top 10 and really top 8, but they need to play and defend as a team the way they did when we got 5th, people are right that Simpson and Willo put their bodies on the line that season and our replacements don’t play the same way. That’s fine when we have loads of possession and can cut through the opposition but not when we need to hold a score line.

  • 209 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM


    i like elliott, think he is a solid number 2 for the prem league, don’t think he will ever push krul for his spot but i never worry when he is in.

    The liverpool game had nothing to do with him, nobody would have saved those goals.

  • 210 Harley // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM


    Oh well can’t agree with your logic that Elliot is the worst keeper as he conceded 6 against Liverpool and Harper only conceded 1 against Arsenal.

    But never mind, I’m sure we both want the same thing in the end which is to see Newcastle succeed.

  • 211 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM


    I respect everyone’s opinion even if it differs to mine up until the point that person fails to respect mine. Most people on this blog are the same I think, it’s just an ignorant few who think that if they keep making the same point, without taking anyone else’s point of view into account, then everyone will back down and see it their way…

    Enjoy your costume dramas! Is that like Batman?

  • 212 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM


    Giving him more time will achieve nothing more than us falling further behind.

    Nothing has changed and we have been as poor so far this season as we were last season only this time injuries can’t be used as the excuse.

    There is only so much time a man can be given before you have to cut all ties with him and move on

  • 213 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM


    we aren’t a good enough team to have defenders who’s bets attributes are attacking, we just simply cannot do it. Especially with this manager, he needs defenders who defend like simmo and willo.

    I think MA will still with pardew unless it looks like we are going down or unless somebody tempts him/jfk with a better manager wiling to work for a similar fee to pardew.

    I always said i’d like to only replace a manager in the summer as you tend to get a better class of manager in as they have all summer to work with players and buy new ones in….but saying that it’s still possible to do well getting a manager in during mid season…like southampton did with pochettino

  • 214 Marty-Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    Arsenal are quality yes indeed but yo think that just a few months ago the fragile fans wanted Wenger out.
    Certainly wouldn’t have minded having him here.

  • 215 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM


    no idea why they wanted him out…to me football is about enjoying your weekends and cup ties and a trophy is a bonus.

    If they cannot enjoy watching that football week in week out then they cannot be fans of football.

    Sure its nice to celebrate a trophy and have a good cup final day out but at the end of the day it’s just a trophy, i’d rather watch top class football every week and see my side compete with the biggest in europe in champs league

  • 216 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM


    yes agree just hope we find someone good enough to deliver, a great challenge for someone, just annoying we cant get him or her in to deliver, i can only see a bleak side the way things are going, we only want good football so we are not after something unrealistic, although its nowhere in site yet. and i will wait and see who the next goat is, as i have no clue.

  • 217 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    i would have said lamb but it might get the Cardiff fans excited.

  • 218 Transfer Sage // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:53 PM


    i think the cardiff fans will be excited enough at the prospect of facing our defence.

  • 219 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM


    You’re arguing with the wrong person. The fact is that MA (or someone else senior at the club) must have spoken to Pardew, assessed him on last year’s injury hit season, got feedback from players, coaches and other staff and made a decision. That person has more information to act upon than you or I. So I’m not saying I would keep him, I’m saying I think he’ll be given more time.

  • 220 Big Pappa Cissé // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Neymar :) .

    Would love to see some of these footballers in a real scrap . Its embarrassing for the sport, these are grown men for Christ’s sake .

  • 221 fatman // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    yes sadly true but can Pardew loose another winnable game, just had a email finally had a processor list sent to me from an it company 10 days for a simple request i can get some work done now back later if i get the chance

  • 222 JackButler // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM


    to be honest mate I don’t think it has anything to do with feed back to Ashley as the man knows that there will be hardly anyone else willing to work under such conditions and do so so cheaply.

    A better class of manager would require a higher wage and transfer budget and would never allow those in charge to make a fool out of him every transfer window.

    We may well be stuck with Pardew as the other option means in change in club policy

  • 223 Marty-Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Transfer sage
    I get ya there,we would certainly be happy to see the team doing that but just as we were when the entertainers where in full flow the fans of football teams are fickle.
    When we were in 2nd 3rd and 4th we knew we were close yet never made it and that became very frustrating.
    It’s the same for Arsenal fans,they’ve been so close yet always like ourselves had one or two dodgy defenders.
    So I guess we’d be happy to be in and around fourth every year playing like they do but we’d also get fed up of being the almost team

  • 224 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:15 PM


    Agree on all points there. I think we have a squad that a Laudrup or Martinez style manager could do well with. I still think it’s early days for those two but there’s no doubt their style is good.

  • 225 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Our defence – Carragher was spot on when he said that there has never been much of a case for the defence at Newcastle. I can’t look back beyond KK’s team but thinking about it he is right. Discounting our promotion season from the Championship and or 5th placed finish.

    Good defending requires a collective resolve something which calls for discipline determination and concentration. Not generally a trait of toon sides in my recollection.

    Newcastle are synonymous with defensive frailty. We don’t defend as a collective unit and the better teams do. Did Kinnear really claim that the defence didn’t require bolstering. He clearly didn’t see too many of our games last season. I have mentioned a few times that Douglas would have been useful coping with Lakuku- Pardew suggested two seasons ago that we could do with someone to dominate at set pieces.

    Good teams built on defence , also close opposition sides down something we did at Villa but have failed to do at Man City and Everton.but it’s not just the defence. It comes from defending as a collective unit,” said Smith, standing in for Nicky Butt as captain.
    “We have the joint best defensive record in the country and that’s something Newcastle have not been renowned for. Even our first goal came from closing down the opposition.
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  • 226 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Related Articles- on defending and the schoolboy coaching errors to avoid were all too visible last night. Pardew must realise he needs to get it sorted or he is toast.

  • 227 Ian Toon // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    the championship side containing the likes of Simpson , Williamson , Smith and Butt sacrificed attacking fair by disciplined defending .
    I personally can’t see Pardew ditching Debuchy, Santon and HBA. As has been suggested by any on here.

    HBA could come off the benchand Santon played in an advanced role with Dummy coming in for him.

  • 228 jimmysmith // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Long history of scalliwag owners, or long history of passive fans.

    Difference now with the twenty four hour media cycle and the net is that we are far better informed, and still so many seem resigned.

    I think NU F C is being undermined, and being so central to Newcastle itself, Ashley is running roughshod over a city.

    How long before Newcastle is no longer simply synonymous with the Tyne Bridge and St James Park but also Sports Direct And Mike Ashley.

  • 229 dcdick // Oct 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Pardew out !!!

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