Confusion Over Alan Pardew


There have been various reports today that Mike Ashley met with Alan Pardew after the game last night, and that Alan Pardew had offered to resign his position as Newcastle manager after the defeat against Everton, but that Mike Ashley did not accept his resignation, but simply told him he had to do better.

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Alan Pardew – no meeting with Mike Ashley

But we’d be very surprised if Alan Pardew offered to resign, it just doesn’t seem to be in his DNA to resign from the best job he has ever had, as the Newcastle manager.

The Chronicle came out a few hours ago and said those rumors of a meeting with Mike Ashley were simply not true, and that could be that Lee Ryder knew Alan’s whereabouts after the game last night.

But we don’t think Mike Ashley would not fire Alan Pardew because of the compensation he would have to pay out to the manager, John Carver and his other coaches.

For a financial guy like Mike Ashley he would hardly have given the manager and coaches a long  eight year contract without having a suitable cancellation clause in the contract.

And we would guess it would cost Newcastle around one years’ wages for Alan and his coaches,  if Mike decided to sack the manager.

But Alan Pardew will be given games to turn this thing around, and Pardew must determine what the best back four are, and play them against Cardiff City,

We also saw some headlines today of Alan Pardew being sacked, but there’s simply nothing behind that ridiculous headline.

The game at Cardiff City is huge for Newcastle and Alan Pardew, and we have to see a much better performance than we have witnessed in the last two league games.

A win would give us 10 points from 7 games and would help to steady the ship just a little bit.

That’s what we’re hoping for.

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84 comments so far

  • Marty-Toon

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #1

    Transfer sage
    I get ya there,we would certainly be happy to see the team doing that but just as we were when the entertainers where in full flow the fans of football teams are fickle.
    When we were in 2nd 3rd and 4th we knew we were close yet never made it and that became very frustrating.
    It’s the same for Arsenal fans,they’ve been so close yet always like ourselves had one or two dodgy defenders.
    So I guess we’d be happy to be in and around fourth every year playing like they do but we’d also get fed up of being the almost team

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  • Grafton83

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #2

    If this is true its a disgrace, dont believe it for a second though. Whats the point in offering a resignation, if you want to resign you just bloody do it. Pards hasnt got the balls to leave the best club he will ever get to manage, he’ll play this out till the bitter end then will get Joe as manager and itll get far worse before it gets better probably

    Honestly though, could Joe do a worse job because I could put up with all his stupid cliams, statements, dillusions and rants if he got us winning football matches

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #3

    JB

    Moyes worked under similar financial constraints for 10 years at Everton. They often sold a player to make ends meet.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #4

    Pardew stays as long as Ashley stays

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #5

    Ed, I don’t think it is that ridiculous to sack Pardew! Mike might not do it, but it is not ridiculous 😉

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Comment #6

    ToonDarnSarf

    Moyes was one of the highest paid managers in the league while at Everton on 4 million a year

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  • stuart no9

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Comment #7

    We also saw some headlines today of Alan Pardew being sacked, but there’s simply nothing behind that rather ridiculous headline ‘ ED , Why is that headline so rididclous? – nothing could be less ridiculous- he should have been sacked last year

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  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Comment #8

    TDS -previous post about the democratic assessment process at SJP.
    1. Speak to Percy and get his assessment of the season.
    2. Speak to players and get feedback.
    3. Speak to coaches and other staff.
    After reviewing all the evidence, carefully gathered,El Gourdo is able to make an informed decision on keeping Percy.
    Haha ha, ha, ha ha.
    TDS do you honestly believe that -come on you’re “aving a girafe”.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #9

    Maybe Pardew feels he has lost the dressing room and thats why he offered the “supposed” resignation

    Missed some of the chat last night as was too pissed off to be online but was anyone not worried that Mbiwa and Arfa did not come out for the 2nd half ? Did they throw in the towel, ask to be subbed??

    Seems strange but we played much much better as a team without Arfa I still maintain that he is not a winger and would be better as a no 10 2 hard working wingers who cover our fullbacks would maybe be better for our overall play ? Should have signed Ince and Redmond!

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #10

    Why on earth did we let Forster go ?

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #11

    Big Pappa Cissé

    Simply because he wanted to our 1st choice keeper and that was never gonna happen with Krul at the club

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #12

    @ JB

    I honestly think he is on Par with Krul, plus he is a local lad .

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Comment #13

    @Big Pappa Cisse

    Because he is not better than Krul and would not be content with a place on the bench ! I watch him quite a lot in Scotland and he is not actually that great not really much better than Elliot simple really

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  • Marty-Toon

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #14

    Watching the Celtic game
    Why did we let Forster go?
    3 amazing top drawer saves

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  • stuart no9

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #15

    TDS—— not really bothered what everton do ! NUFC- ashley – jfk concern me.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Comment #16

    Big Pappa Cissé

    Not for me mate. Celtic are the only decent side in Scotland and whereas he does well in Europe it’s a different story when you have to do it week in week out.

    how much pressure does he come under as Celtic’s keeper compared to what Krul has to face every week

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Comment #17

    JB

    Pardew’s contract will be massively incentive based.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #18

    @ JB

    I would say Krul edges it slightly, but how else can Forster prove himself ? . We never gave him a chance in the PL, and if you can do it against Barca you can do it against most teams IMO .

    For me Krul is suspect with his decision making and distribution .

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  • calvinho

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #19

    It’s clearly been a disappointing start to the season……again.
    I really think that the French contingent isn’t helping our cause. When you play away at the likes of Everton or West Ham, you will expect to be put under pressure for periods of the game. Much like when teams come to SJP. However, we sometimes need that British grit and determination that was so evidently missing yesterday. Cabaye aside (who at least was closing down and being aggressive), our foreign players lack this attribute. Krul sh1t himself for the 3rd. Mbiwa was dreadful. Santon is poor without Gutierez sat in front of him. It’s that Kevin Nolan character that is so clearly missing.

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  • stuart no9

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Comment #20

    marty- toon —– because at the moment our owners – manager – DO -F//k all couldnt spot talent if it hit them on the back of the head with a mallet, what a keeper he is and what a game he had tonight.

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  • Toon Tang

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #21

    what a goalkeeper forster is. absolute cat man double saving flying zorro demon.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #22

    ToonDarnSarf

    There’s a massive difference to have an incentive based deal to having a guaranteed 4 million a year

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #23

    Mister Tuff

    He must have. You don’t grow a massive business like he has without assessing performance of key employees.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #24

    Is anyone really worried about this season ? I thought after the Villa game and Hull 1st half we had turned a corner but we are now falling apart

    Cardiff will attack us right from the start and with Campbell and Bellamy up front they have the pace to give our defence nightmares then with Pardew in charge I honestly cant see how we will not get pumped off Liverpool he cant play against teams like that has no plan

    Mackems could have a new manager who could get them up for it then its Chelsea and Spurs after that is it not ?? Worrying times indeed

    I tell you I would not mind Forster back at the moment put him and Krul in goal at the same time we might stand a chance !ha ha

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Comment #25

    JB

    Yeah. You’d have thought Pardew would have extra motivation to do well! 🙂

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  • Toon Tang

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Comment #26

    scott brown the original flying hatchet man as well doing what he does best.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #27

    Big Pappa Cissé

    At the time that Forster was here Krul was light years ahead of him in every area and he wanted a first team place which no one would have given him over Krul.

    Agree he may look good against Barca in the Champions League but can he do the same every single week?

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  • Toon Tang

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #28

    santon- pace is something we cant deal with at all. add to that power as well and we crumble like aunty winifreds crab apple crumble

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #29

    ToonDarnSarf

    And thats the reason why Ashley will never employ a top class manager as it would cost him more than he’d ever be willing to pay

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  • Marty-Toon

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #30

    Stuart
    Hit the nail on the heed there.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #31

    JB

    Any confident manager should be ok with an incentive based contract.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Comment #32

    ToonDarnSarf

    As long as they had a decent transfer budget and total control over who comes in and who goes out.

    No manager would accept that type of deal where any player can be sold and nothing reinvested

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Comment #33

    @ JB

    I guess we will never know now .

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  • GeordieTwo

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    Comment #34

    Tell Pardew he has to do better after all the struggles of this season and last. What does that mean? Does Pardew just press his Be a Better Manager Button? The only reason Pardew isn’t already sacked is that Ashley is cheap and gutless.

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  • dcdick

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #35

    Pardew out !!!

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  • Jamiemac

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #36

    santon – mbiwa was utter shite thats why he got subbed. HBA was also playing shite but he’s our matchwinner so I found that a bit more strange

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  • theartfuldodger

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #37

    I feel so sorry for cabaye now. He could be top of the table at arsenal. Instead he is fighting relegation and will perhaps do so for 2 years.

    Hughton was sacked when least expected.
    Many Many ppl wanting Pardew out for sometime now but he is still here.
    Ashley-Personal or professional ?

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  • Krul To Be Kind

    Oct 1, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #38

    BREAKING NEWS:

    Neymar rushed to hospital after being poked on facebook

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 1, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #39

    An incentive based contract and an owner with deep pockets and short arms, any competent, established, self respecting manager wouldn’t have a bar of it and it might end up with Pardew walking.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #40

    JB

    You’re speculating. I’d bet quite a few managers have accepted that kind of deal. And it’s also pure speculation on Pardew’s salary. If I was him then I’d have jumped ship when I got 5th to get a better deal. I reckon he’s on a proper deal but highly incentivised.

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