There’s No Way Kinnear Will Become Newcastle Manager


We never really bought the conventional wisdom that Mike Ashley brought in Joe Kinnear so he could become the Newcastle manager,  if Alan Pardew faltered again this season.

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Joe Kinnear – we must have just conceded another goal 🙁

But there were reports that when Joe tried to sign Mick Harford as his assistant,  that was further proof that Joe was getting ready to replace Alan Pardew.

But Joe turns 67 just after Christmas, and he has had a dodgy heart,  which has stopped him in his tracks twice when he was previously in management, including at Newcastle in February of 2009, and we think if Joe had been able to stay fit through that season, we would have avoided relegation.

So from a health point of view,  it would be almost suicidal for Joe to take on one of the toughest jobs in football,  as the Newcastle manager.

But if Alan Pardew cannot turn things around – and we hope he can for the good of the club – Joe could come in for a few games while Newcastle go looking for a replacement – like Roberto Di Matteo as one example,

But to be a long-term manager again, especially at Newcastle, just shouldn’t be on the cards for Joe, and we think he already knows that.

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20 comments so far

  • Toon-Prodigy

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #1

    Laurent,

    That is overly harsh from where im sitting.

    That was a cracking second half and the effort was there for all to see.

    We played well in that second period. There is no denying that.

    We got beat but we deserved a point for me. We were outclassed first half but we dominated them in the second. The scoreline shows that. I would of taken a draw before the game.

    The major point is that we come out fighting in the second half and played well, which we did.

    I hate to say this but what an impact williamson made. Mapou has got himself dropped he was woeful. Im still not confident with Debuchy. I’d play Simpson over him all day long if we still had him. He is great getting forward but leaves alot to be desired with his defending.

    Slank,

    I think we need more belief and need to be out the blocks quick hurting teams. We are more than capable of doing it.

    Top ten is acheivable with this squad. Some good signs in that second half for me.

    I hate to single people out but individual performances cost us that game. As long as they are addressed we should be ok.

    We will turn Cardiff over or atleast come away with a draw.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #2

    What a strike by Cabaye aswell.

    He deserves praise for that second half.

    More of the same.

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  • cyprus

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #3

    JFK will only be interim, like you say ED. But, something has to give with our current situation:
    *We never score from corners (PS. Stop that tactic where you all bunch together. It doesn’t work!)
    *We can’t ‘combine’ well.
    *Players seem lost.
    *We’ve turned big internationals into shells of players.
    *Our tactics… what tactics?
    Do you feel confident regarding Cardiff? I don’t and neither do the players, AP and MA. We just don’t know if we’ll play well, regardless of the result: We could win yes, but we could draw or get spanked too. That’s what football is about I know, but the odds must be 1/3 for each result. That’s nuts.

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  • Goodfella

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #4

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-halsey-fa-laughing-stock-2329866

    Haha Mark Halsey has got a cheek after the FA defended his ridiculous decision at Wigan when poor haidara nearly had his leg snapped above his knee. The Idiot is trying to sell his book (who the hell would want to read that shite apart from Fergie)

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #5

    Toon Prodigy,
    It happens all the time when a team take a comfortable lead into the break, inevitably they take their foot off the gas. Dominated the second half? Everton shad the same number of shots in the second half than we did. They had more shots second half than first half as well.

    We were nowhere near deserving of a draw, the performance in the second half was improved, but not significantly enough to earn us a draw.

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  • cyprus

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #6

    Toon-Prodigy,
    Overall, we were miles behind Everton, it was really embarrassing mate. We could’ve drawn (Gouf, Remy) but it wouldn’t have been ‘fair’ 🙁

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #7

    next match i would bench santon, put mbiwa left back and bring in willo, we desperately need a new, aerial cb, i think that has been highlighted.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #8

    That makes little sense because I double checked on the figures after writing it. It should read, “Everton had the same number of shots in the second half as we had.” I had thought we had had 10 shots to their 11, but it was 10 a piece.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Oct 2, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #9

    Ed…Is there really no way? I hope so, but am far from convinced. It’s not like the club is often far away from controversy or dodgy decision making.

    On the Everton game…

    My stream and sky were down for the first half, but I did watch the second half.

    What I will say is the first half must have been truly abysmal for the second half showing to be considered as a good half. Imo, it was an okay half.

    Defensively we were still fairly poor. There was a shot from Baines which just glided past the post where not one player tried to close him down and he was on the edge of the box.

    Thought Willo did what he does best. Keep it simple and keep it away from our goal. Not very exciting, but at times needed.

    Can’t really comment on MBiwa as I didn’t see the first half, but he clearly needs more time to settle, the question is can we afford to stick with him right now? Is it even him that is the real issue? Truth is, all of our 4 defenders (and then our bench defenders) are all prone to not turning up or gifting goals. That’s not saying they’re bad, as they often put in great performances too, it really is a point of consistency imo.

    I said it in the summer and I’ll say it again. Something is amiss with the players. If it’s down to Pardew then he needs to go a.s.a.p, but I’m still far from convinced. He’s not great, but he does get performances from the players at times. Why would they play for him some days and not others?

    If it was down to Pardew and he had lost the dressing room then surely he would have been fired by now? It’d be cheaper to buy him out of his contract than fund another spending spree this January.

    This isn’t a great defense of Pardew, as I do feel he is limited. It’s simply a case of me thinking there are bigger issues at the club and that any Pardew replacement would be a short lived remedy as things stand.

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  • fatman

    Oct 2, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #10

    and we think if Joe had been able to stay fit through that season, we would have avoided relegation.
    yes that right ed that’s why the fans were singing to Joe you don’t know what your doing. when you do your articles you need to say “I” as most fans don’t share your view on Kinnear.

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  • bob52

    Oct 2, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #11

    Latest reports seem pretty convinced Pardew is on borrowed time, a thing most people on this site have been calling for over the past year. Problem is we know Ashly does not think like a Newcastle fan or for that mind care too much about results as profit seems to be his priority.
    No doubt in my mind Kinnear will take over when the day comes and that will be a lot worse than if the situation remained as is. Pardew is not a bad manager there are a lot worse, he cares for the toon and that’s paramount in my book.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Oct 2, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #12

    Lads you are basing our good improved second half performance down to Everton taking their foot off the gas.

    That’s not entirely true. It was a good second half for us and we were much improved.

    It’s a game of two halfs and we beat them 2-0 in the second half. We were much better than how we started. Our pass completion was 85% our best of the season.

    All this drama is starting again pointing fingers and it isn’t necessary six games in.

    I’ll lay it down to individual errors for the time being as that’s how I seen it.

    We started bad and Everton were excellent.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  • Graeme

    Oct 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #13

    It cant be denied that JFK gives MA cover if he does decide to axe Pardew, but surely, not even MA could be stupid enough to consider JFK as anything more than an emergency stop-gap while the new Manager is recruited.

    The biggest problem, to me, is getting someone who is far more adept with Tactics, Team Management etc than Pardew, who would be willing to work under the same restraints. Most Managers would expect to name the players they want for each position and then expect the club to provide those players to strengthen/ improve the team.

    As we all know, that simply doesn’t happen at NUFC.

    The manager may well put forward a list of players he thinks we need, but then MA/JFK decide what THEY actualy want and tell Mr Carr to go find them. Once GC puts his list of players, with prices, on the table, presumably MA/JFK decide which to pursue and JFK goes off to negotiate the purchase – many weeks go by, nothing happens, season starts, the excuses are issued and the Manager is told to get on with it, with what he has.

    Welcome to modern day Football Management, NUFC/ MA style – it simply does not work!!

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Oct 2, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #14

    Phelan & Muelensteen please. A coaching team that just won the Premier League by a large margin has mistakenly been made unemployed. What are we waiting for?

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  • lesh

    Oct 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #15

    So, Joe could come in for a few games while Newcastle go looking for a replacement – like Roberto Di Matteo as one example ?

    Why oh why would anyone even consider Kinnear, even as a temp? He’s a football dinosaur and if he is to stay at Newcastle United, then give him a post he’d he suited for….. If there is such a role for him!

    Are scarecrows still used these days? Mmmm, maybe the gulls’d find a use for him?

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  • moonraker

    Oct 2, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #16

    Toon Prodigy @ 1
    With respect you are missing the point! You can’t just start playing in the second half after finding out the set up and motivation is wrong or non-existent!

    A good manager prepares his team and sets it up to play against whatever threat the opposition poses; not wait till 3 nil down and radically change it hoping for an improvement.

    The game was lost in the first half when we played better and Everton eased off a bit.

    That on monday night was a disgrace and I believe those players are now suffering from the system Pardew is asking them to play.

    He said before the game that we were going to hit them on the break! What a joke; to do that you have to set up defensively and absorb pressure then strike them with the likes of Remy etc.

    I believe that was the worst display from a PL club I have ever seen and that was enough for me to realise Pardew doesn’t have a clue. He should have changed that set up after 10 minutes not at half time!

    He has to go !!!

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  • JaxtheMag

    Oct 2, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #17

    STEVE BRUCE.

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  • Ciaran

    Oct 2, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #18

    Read the headline and thought there might have been a quote or something to back it up. Nope. Don’t think you can categorically state he won’t become Newcastle manager.

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  • Sav

    Oct 3, 2013 at 3:57 AM

    Comment #19

    Maybe so, Ed. But your analysis of what Joe is not here to do doesn’t deal with his total unsuitablility as DoF or the fact that apart from signing Remy on loan (a move hardly credited to Joe’s negotiating skills except in his own fantasy CV), all we know for certain he did is to reject a free CB (Douglas) and generally embarrass himself and the club. After Everton, a quality CB is again looking the priority Pardew said it was.

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  • Owldman

    Oct 3, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #20

    My one fear now is that with pressure on Ashley is that he takes the easy route and sacks Pardew & replaces him with Kinnear instead of seeking advice from someone to get help appointing a top class coach & allow him to bring in his own backroom staff, rumour now has that it could be Poyet, but please no isnt this the guy Toon had a spat with after the Brighton cup tie?

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