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Don’t Believe Everything You Hear About Newcastle

1:41 pm, Sunday, October 13th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 47 Comments

We know that a few fan groups at the moment are not happy with owner Mike Ashley,  and one of the things that is brought up is that Mike Ashley is prioritizing the Premier League and only the Premier League, and he is not interested in winning the domestic Cups.

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Mike Ashley – prioritizing Premier League only
And while that’s true, it’s Alan Pardew who chooses the teams, and especially this season when we will have a lot fewer games to play than last season, he should be able to field some strong sides in the Cup competitions..

We think he will field strong sides especially in the Capital One Cup,  in an effort to have a good run,  and maybe even get to Wembley – and who knows – even qualify for Europe.

While speaking on Goals on Sunday this morning, the Newcastle manager  Alan Pardew said that it was up to him which teams he plays in the Cups, although its true the Premier League is the priority at the club, and maybe that’s because there is £60M to £100M to be made by PL clubs every season.

This is what Alan said:

“All Premier League managers are under real pressure from their board, from their owners, to get a strong Premier League finish because the finance and prestige for Premier League teams is such that that is the priority.”

“So forget about everything else, that is the priority for the owners.” “But for managers, of course, it isn’t. Our ambition is to win trophies, so every competition we enter we try and win.”

“When we were in the Europa League put some really strong teams, we got to the quarter-final and it was touch and go against Benfica, who nearly won it. We prioritized that.”

“When it came round to the domestic cups we had awful teams to put out. As manager, I have to admit that. It wasn’t good enough for Newcastle.” “It wasn’t that I didn’t have the players in the background, they weren’t fit. We had a really bad run.”

“This year, we want to win a cup, we want to win a trophy. Imagine Newcastle winning a trophy, no one would love that more than myself and for the fans. Our fans have been starved since 1968.”  (note it as 1969 Alan)

“If we can reach the heights that we’ve done this year in certain games and certain periods in games, there’s no reason why we can’t win a trophy.

“We’ve got the resources this year to have a go in the cups. We’ve got a really good first XI and the XI underneath it is not far away, and that bodes well when you have to put those guys in to keep the team at the same level.

“So I feel a little bit more confident this year, certainly than I did last year, and we’re not far away, in my opinion, from the team that finished fifth in terms of quality.”

It’s true that the official party line is that Newcastle will not prioritize the domestic Cups – but if Alan Pardew does that with his team selection – there’s nothing to stop us doing well in those competitions this season.

And it seems that’s just exactly what Alan Pardew wants to do.

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Tags: Capital One Cup · FA Cup · Newcastle News · Premier League

47 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Thump // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Why couldn’t he have said this – exactly this – last year? If he stopped giving excuses a lot of the pressure from us to him may very well have been lifted.

    I always hope that the manager can prove me wrong but, honestly, I can’t see Pardew being it. It’s nice that he has ambitions to win a cup but it just isn’t going to happen. Not under Pardew, anyway.

  • 2 bills-son // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Thump – we win’t win a cup under Pardew?

    Just like we didn’t under Keegan, Sir Bobby, Daglish, Gullit and the rest.

    So, what is your point?

  • 3 martoon // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    I watched Goals on Sunday and thought Pardew came across well although the Pardew haters will not agree. He also confirmed what many of us thought that Mike Ashley gets frustrated with football because his business techniques that are so successful with SD don’t necessarily work in football. And when he gets frustrated he can make some rash decisions (we all know what they are) but he does want the club to be successful.

  • 4 jimBOB // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    it still dosent change the fact he does not know where he should be playing certain players, yes we have a good standard of quality in the club, but I could give Alan Pardew all the tools to build a house and he would make a Raft.

    I dont mind Pardew but he is a defence coach at best,

    his mentality is defend, he looks on edge when we attack and is suprised when we pull off something good. you see it in his reactions after games, I thought we played terrific, ‘well Alan we didnt, we played sub standard for a team of such quality player’ dont get me wrong, not a team of such quality a team of quality players. thats what he need to realise, they need to start playing as a quality team. I feel like slapping him sometimes.

    and on Kinnear, he is like the Bloody Rick Flair of football, he just wont P*SS OFF

  • 5 jimBOB // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Sorry guy’s had a bit of a moment there. : )

  • 6 Thump // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Past managers have absolutely nothing to do with this. We were far more likely to win a trophy under those than we are with Pardew.

    My point is he’s simply not good enough of a manager to win us anything. A manager can’t win a trophy by dumb luck, he has to be very tactically aware of his opposition and be able to enforce the oppositions playing style into his squad in a reasonably short period of time. Pardew is far too mentally weak to win a trophy, we struggle against the big boys because we pay them too much respect and, in any competition, we’re going to come up against the big boys. We have City at home at the end of the month and we’ll hear the same old tired excuses again.

    On a slightly unrelated note: Pardew needs to stop going on about “the team that finished 5th”. We are the team that finished 5th and it’s his duty to replicate that. In his mind we’re always “not far away” and by that token we’re always starting on the back foot. As I said: mentally weak.

  • 7 lesh // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    “We’ve got the resources this year to have a go in the cups.” says Mr Pardew.

    A restaurant that sources the finest ingredients will never be a success unless it has a very good chef who will use them to their advantage and imagination.

    A daft analogy but perhaps relevant?

  • 8 Bearsize // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Just had micheal oliver (the ref) watching our sunday team. I asked him who was the best player in the prem from his POV, Juan mata is his pick. He cant ref toon and sunderland. He is involved with italys game on tues. Seemed like a nice kid. Hope u all sleep tonight knowing this 😉

  • 9 Thump // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Well said, jimBOB

  • 10 bills-son // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM


    A manager has more chance of winning a cup with dumb luck than finishing 5th.

  • 11 lesh // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM


    If Ashley gets frustrated when his SD methods don’t work in football, he’s got at least two options.

    1 – step back and employ someone who knows the business of football to run the football club for him – not a Kinnear type – or

    2 – get out and sell up

  • 12 Big Pappa Cissé // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    @ Jimbob

    You are spot on about him being a defensive manager. The sheer Irony is that his defensive style cost us for our worst PL season for conceding goals and our heaviest home defeat for 70 odd years FFS .

    Just look at Debuchy for France the other day . He never gets that close to the box other than a corner, yet playing for Blanc he is on the penalty spot and smashing one home brilliantly. Against Australia I know but it is so frustrating having our extremely talented squad held back by Pardew’s leash.

    You only have to look at teams like Bayern & Barca and see that the last thing on their mind is defending. They let their fullbacks join the attack and keep the opposition pinned back in their own half, and this allows them to have so much possession . Whereas Pardew still thinks it is the 80’s :(

  • 13 lesh // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    JimBOB @ 4, who or what is Bloody Rick Flair?

    And would I be safe in saying that Kinnear’ll not be happy at that?

  • 14 Big Pappa Cissé // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    “Frustrated with his Sports Direct methods ” ? Gimme a break.

    What kind of moron thinks a PL football club can be ran like a Sports clothing chain ? . I think he needs tom come up with a better excuse than that like .

    You don’t necessarily buy a football club to make money unless you are one of the really big boys, and even then some of them are half a billion in debt .

    You do it because you are either bored and owning a football club is something other billionaires have done, or you like football and maybe have a connection to the club . Also you have to be prepared to pump millions in and get very little back other than PL security or the odd cup run.

    But what do I know 😉

  • 15 jimBOB // Oct 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM


    he is like a crap hulk google him, looks abit like JK.

    Big Pappa Cisse.

    I would say the reason Debuchy plays out of his skin for France is becasue its Sagna’s position, he wants to keep it. he has no competition at the toon, so he can let his hair down, also I think both him and Santon would be better used as wing backs, (if they got back)

    thats why Barca have it made. the two centre halfs are comfortable because Dani Alves and jordi Alba are like absolute crazy gray hounds with engines I have not seen on playes since barry and he smoked.

  • 16 Ancientcoptic // Oct 13, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Dalglish prioritized domestic cups and look how that went, we were ad predicted, beaten in the latter stages, all while struggling in desperate fashion in the league.

    We should approach cups exactly how other teams approach it, playing fringe players in the earlier rounds, and taking them more seriously if we get to the Semis. It is a very simple methodology that protects against injuries to key players, and if the squad is not good enough to rotate and beat other rotated teams, it is not good enough to win a cup anyway.

    Wigan got very lucky to win the cup, but look where they are now.

  • 17 Sav // Oct 13, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Sounds like it’ll be the reserves again, then.

  • 18 bills-son // Oct 13, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    There is a simple reason why Debuchy played so well and scored..

    He was playing against Australia not Man City.

  • 19 lesh // Oct 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Cheers for that jimBOB. I wonder if Ashley should’ve recruited Rick Flair for DoF rather than Kinnear?

  • 20 Harley // Oct 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    I watched Alan pardew on goals this morning and as usual I thought he came across very well.

    2 things that stood out for me were when he spoke about the pressure at the club and that other managers have said the same.

    We have great, loyal fans but very impatient.

    Also when he said our fans want us to be up there with Manu and man city. No we don’t, we just expect to be challenging the pack behind them (for now anyway).

    We all know there are not the resources at the club afforded to the big guns.

    We are the 7th richest club in England and 20th in Europe. We just want our spend to reflect that.

  • 21 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Politicians come across quite well, but similarly are just putting on a front.

    He says we’ve played well at home this year???

    Wasn’t it West Ham where we didn’t have a shot on goal, then very poor again until last 15 mins of Fulham game where Ben Arfa won it from his own individual ability. Hull was shocking.

    No we haven’t played well at home.

    He’s such a silver tongued devil it’s unbelievable. Says what people want to hear, but does the opposite.

    Ben Arfa has to be consistent, and drops him…. then drops Anita for being just that. In comes Tiote again. Jonas will be back to starting soon as well.

  • 22 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    He wants more English players to play his battering ram football. Those English players aren’t going to generally be up to it consistently, unless you’ll fork out a lot of money. So he’s talking nonsense, as we won’t pay that.

    His excuse is always the other thing, to distract you. Sick of him and his competence.

  • 23 Laurent Robert 32 // Oct 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Cisse was scoring goals until he wrecked him by playing out on the wing, defensive football, and little to no service for him. Yet he laughs about it on TV saying he’s showing him videos and stats etc.

    His coaching and tactics are laughable.

    Has he showed him the lack of quality service and link ups which aren’t going on as well?

  • 24 Dannyo // Oct 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    I admit, playing Cisse on the wing was the wrong move, I think he wanted to keep Cisse happy due to the service he provided in goals last year. And AP is at fault for that.

    But saying AP wrecked is wrong imo. Have you look at how unbelievably high Cisse sits throughout games?
    He never works for the ball, he sits on the offside line throughout the game lashing out thoughtlessly on random chances.
    We don’t play 4-3-3 with Cisse through the middle, we play 4-3-2————1.

    And that’s on Cisse, not AP.

  • 25 martoon // Oct 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Laurent Robert 32 – what on earth are you ranting on about. Most agreed that Ben Arfa deserved to be dropped for his non-existent performances and Tiote was getting back to somewhere near his best and didn’t we win that game against Cardiff or are are you now going to re-write history as well?
    Cisse is going through a dry spell at the moment for whatever reason but somehow it is Pardew’s fault that he has missed some sitters recently!

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 13, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Honestly if money is the only priority for an owner I swear there are better businesses to own than a football club!

    …MA is really in the wrong kind of business and for the wrong reasons!

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    I’ll give Ma some idea’s where to take his business so he can sell NUFC to some who cares:

    1. Healthy Fast Foods
    2. Internet Marketing Agency
    3. Elderly Home Care
    4. Home Fitness Trainers
    5. Green Contracting
    6. Pet Care and Grooming
    7. App Development
    8. Home and Building Services
    9. Small Business Services
    10. Retirement Recreation

    Good luck to you Mike and thanks for nothing! 😉

  • 28 yo-yo // Oct 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM


    Remember Pardew was a penalty save away from winning the FA Cup

  • 29 martoon // Oct 13, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Jesper – I think you have got the wrong end of the stick. Ashley didn’t necessarily buy NUFC to make a profit but thought he could apply his business ideas and make it a success which of course is not that easy in football.

  • 30 josh // Oct 13, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Lesh, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. that’s all you need know about rick flair.

  • 31 lesh // Oct 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    jesperfuglsang – captain of the lemon crew @27

    MA would appreciate some of the ideas for investing his time and money.

    I hope you don’t mind me suggesting business that’d use his obvious talents as a Recruitment Consultant

    To be a success in that, one must have a great insight into business, people, credibilty and most importantly, contacts.

    Yup, we’ve fortunate to see his obvious talents in bringing such big players to Newcastle United –
    • Tony Jimanez
    • Denis Wise
    • Derek Llambias
    • Kevin Keegan
    • Joe Kinnear and
    • Alan Pardew.

    Now if he were set up to identify more like those above and place them into key positions in other EPL clubs, Newcastle United might just have a chance of a degree of success!!


  • 32 lesh // Oct 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    josh @30

    must say I feel much more enriched knowing about Rick Flair now.

  • 33 JAMSHA // Oct 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM

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  • 34 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 13, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    You missed the part of the goals on Sunday interview where pardew said Ashley didn’t understand the football world and it upsets and frustrates him, and when it upsets and frustrates him he makes decisions which are bad for the club

    Some owner eh!!

  • 35 catchy in norway // Oct 13, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    at least fat mike has a reason not to know anything about how to run a football club, he is new to it and is being led a merry dance by idiots

    pardew has no reason at all no to know what he is doing , he stumbles across things rather than putting them in place

    the guy is a Morron a total idiot and really has no ideas this side of 1985.

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 13, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    New to it???
    Behave he’s owned the club for 6 years ffs
    Don’t forget who employs Pardew

  • 37 Rotonda heights // Oct 13, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    I think if you go into football for a bit of fun and line up all your drinking buddies for key positions within the club that’s absolutely fine at a lower level, ie the conference or similar.

  • 38 catchy in norway // Oct 13, 2013 at 7:59 PM


    I do understand that

    but pardew has been in the game his whole life,

    just watched some of the interview

    he openly admits he put teams out that he thought weren’t good enough to score goals, and no matter what you think you know about the injuries , they all weren’t at the same time , and he had enough good players to mix it up and play more attacking football, I mean marv for jonas would have been a good start,

    jonas will make most of his teams this year too :(

  • 39 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 13, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    @nufcfans: VIDEO: Alan Pardew bets an #Everton fan a Mars bar that #NUFC will finish above #EFC this season –

    @skytyneandwear: VIDEO Ryan Taylor joins #NUFC scouting team – Pardew reveals how injured @TaylorR1984 is still in the first-team fold

  • 40 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 13, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    I’m not saying pardew is the right manager, just saying it’s not his fault he’s in charge
    Which ever way you flip it, it all comes back to Ashley

    Personally think pardew has shown signs if growth this season, we look more attacking, he seems bolder in his team selection, more articulate rather than just spouting BS
    Unfortunately we still have found a balance between attack and defence, were either solid at the back and toothless up top or great going forward and abysmal at the back

  • 41 Rotonda heights // Oct 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM


    You make some good points but Catchy is right too. Pardew stumbled across the 433 when Raylor got injured and Benny finally got a game.

    Pardew always appears to be painfully and slowly reactive rather than pro-active and a plan B seems like a different country to him.

    A good coach would take someone like Marveaux and develop his inate skills, not just discard him as a luxury.

    The whole irony was not lost in Pardew’s masked attack at Ash when he said that Mike sometimes doesn’t understand and gets football wrong. (Appointing Pardew and JFK!)

  • 42 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    martoon…I actually think he is in the wrong kind of business for the wrong reasons!

    …He might think he is here for the right reasons – that is a whole different story 😉

  • 43 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 13, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    lesh… 😀 haha

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Oct 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    …shoot! I am too late; the blog is already dead 😉

  • 45 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    I’d agree with that tbf, think we saw a big reaction from pardew after the hull game and took some guts to drop benny/cisse so fair play to him there but he, like the squad needs to find a consitency this season, not just have a plan A and stubbornly plough on with it if it’s not working!

    As for marveux, he’s a tricky one for me, came here as a LM/LW but looked absolutely shocking there and looked much better in the number 10 role, but even still has only ever shown glimpses of genius have yet to see him do it over 90 mins or back to back games and he certainly looks like he has no interest in playing midweek against lower league teams in the cups!!
    This season he’s dropped off the face of the earth so who knows what his story is, bad attitude? Lazy? Or just not rated by the staff?

  • 46 remember69 // Oct 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Catchy @ 35,
    You realize your statement “The guy is a Morron a total idiot” doesn’t really portray you as being top of the intelligence ladder, right!

    Personally, I believe Pardew is doing the best he can with the resources he has been given. As I’ve said in the past you do not get voted the best manager in the league by your peers (Alex Ferguson, Arsenal Wenger et al) by being completely inept as posters on this blog would like to make out.
    Is he a great manager? Who am I to judge – I am not in the profession and do not have the inside information to make such judgement. Sadly other

  • 47 remember69 // Oct 14, 2013 at 2:30 AM

    Sorry, touchy iPad…….

    Sadly too many are keen to judge based on emotion and frustration rather than on a true understanding of the situation – much of which they may not be even be privy to.

    Let’s face it, it has to be easier to manage a team when you have deep pockets and can buy & discard whatever players you want – my guess is that AP is as frustrated as the rest of us.

    It’s not rocket science, just common sense.

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