Four Positives From The Liverpool Game Yesterday


There were a number of positives for Alan Pardew to take out of the game yesterday, and we’ll list just a few of them – but it was a game which will give our players a lot of confidence, especially the way our lads were so resolute in that second half – and deserved that little bit of luck in the last 20 minutes to take the point.

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Paul Dummett – after scoring his goal yesterday

Here are four positives we took out of the game yesterday:

  • Cheick Tiote had a very good game and is probably back to near his best form. And he made a decent job as Newcastle captain, and as we said earlier today, if this is the impact the captaincy has on his play, he should be the Newcastle vice-captain from now on.
  • Paul Dummett again came on and got the job done for his home town club Newcastle, after Yanga-Mbiwa had been given his marching orders, and in that second half his positional play at center-back was good, and he did very well alongside Mike Williamson at the back.
  • Yohan Cabaye apologized ro Newcastle fans for his antics at the beginning of the season, and said he would pay them back by what he does on the field. And that goal from nothing yesterday was simply magnificent, and long may Yohan be in the form he is at the moment – he was simply terrific yesterday for Newcastle.
  • Every single Newcastle player – including the likes of Loic Remy who wasn’t in the game much, but would have slept well last night – ran their socks of for the cause.  It was great to see the commitment, courage and resilience of the Newcastle side yesterday in the second half, when they were under so much adversity – they were simply great

Which are some of the other positives we didn’t list?

Sunderland have seven defeats and one draw in their first eight games, but this could still be a huge banana skin for Newcastle next Sunday – just like Hull City proved to be – and we must go all out to get all 3 points – but it will not be easy.

What do you think?



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123 comments so far

  • Toon Tang

    Oct 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #1

    to all us toon fans expecting a walkover against sunlun, remember what happened in the same situation last season. Everyone were predicting cricket scores and we went in to the game thinking it would be a piece of piss.

    This will be a real tough game me thinks.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #2

    It was a very good display. We played well as a team, didn’t create many chances but Liverpool have been pretty solid against most teams this year so that’s credit to their defence.

    I think everyone put in a shift and the fullbacks still attacked but also defended with much more composure and held positions at the right times.

    Overall it was a much better display and credit where it’s due.

    I don’t think HBA worked well as a lone striker but it takes time to adjust to a new role and it was worth a go seeing as cisse hasn’t done much. Can’t fault pardew for trying something different, it’s the ony way to find out if it works.

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  • cyprus

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #3

    Remember when Fergie loaned us a small CF called Rossi? Thought he was having a laugh (e.g.see Butt, Smith, Obertan)? He just scored a hat trick vs. Juve

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #4

    Toon tang

    Derbies always are hard as players and fans are really fired up and form can go out the window. I’d still rather play them when they are down than when they are in good form but a wounded animal is always dangerous.

    I fancy us to win as they can’t defend and have no real goal threat or creativity but like you say we’ll need to work very hard still

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  • Toon Tang

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #5

    your right sage mate, im hoping their first win of the season is put off for another week because it will come sooner or later (probably).

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #6

    Exccllent team display yesterday and some excellent individual displays and Pardew got his tactics right.
    This season playing some of the best football for a few seasons

    BUT
    Not looking forward to next Sunday
    In fact I bloody hate derbies and the build up.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #7

    charlie

    I think the football is improving but we still lack the quality in the final third, not quite enough movement, not enough bodies forward and not enough link up there but the passing in the rest of the field is very good.

    I think cabaye just needs to get that 10 yards further forward as he seems to play some great balls in to cisse and remy but ends up a bit too deep too often.

    Personally i’d drop sissoko for anita and then have anita and tiote a bit deeper with cabaye having a bit more room further forward.

    As for the dery, I can’t wait..love the tension and the nerves during the game, for me its what football is all about.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #8

    tang

    yeh they have to win at some point, like you say just hope it’s not against us.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #9

    From Liverpool fan “I couldn’t agree more. From his 1st game I was worried. Before we bought Sakho we had kept 3 clean sheets from 3 games, the best defensive record in the league. Then we buy him and he starts all games and guess what – not a clean sheet since and in fact, an appalling defensive record. That is NOT a coincidence. This was a bad buy by Rodgers, a terrible mistake. I also query why Rodgers hasn’t dealt with Moses. He gets the ball and just runs and runs until he loses it. He fails to spot runs by his teammates, is greedy and fails to make some passes that would lead to goalscoring opportunities. And guess what, Rodgers starts him every game and he does the same thing every week. If I, a mere mortal, can spot it, why can’t a premier league manager. clueless.”

    Its not just our fans who like a whinge even though they are playing fantastic football I think our fans would still moan even if Pards gets us playing sexual football every week

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #10

    santon

    that’s the thing….no matter how well you do there is always something to improve on.

    As for moses, he is a bit greedy but got to take the good with the bad, for every time he gives the ball away running at somebody there is another time he beats than man and slots the ball in the back of the net. Sure he needs to improve his decision making but he is still young and will improve that over the next couple years.

    And I agree on sakho, heard people on here rave about him and say he was amazing, never seen him until he moved to liverpool but he looks very shakey and i think they have 3 better CB’s than him.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #11

    santon

    also rogers hasn’t got many signings right in my eyes….i like sturridge, i like moses, i like coutinho, toure and mignolet….but other than that the other buys have been poor… borini, sakho (might improve/settle though), aspas, ilori, cissoko, alberto

    he is very hit and miss with bringing players in for me.

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  • bills-son

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #12

    Toonarmydownsouth,

    Just read your daft post about advertising.

    Me dead wrong again you reckon?

    Why don’t you read what I write – I was talking about GROUND advertising, nothing else. Not shirt advertising or any other sponsorship.

    Perhaps you can’t read properly – is that the problem?

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  • theartfuldodger

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #13

    On MBiwa – He really wasnt bad yesterday. Yes he made a mistake,but he had pressure on him. He tried too hard to stop suarez. I dont think its fair comparing him with Boumsong. Mbiwa is really good with an attacker running towards him. He can stop the guy. He is also good keeping up with them. However yesterday suarez was always ahead of him and he should have accepted that.

    Does he have a 1 match or a 3 match ban ?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #14

    bills

    on ground advertising there have been a few different articles posted. some talk about it in the range of tens of thousands where others put it in the millions…so its difficult to know which is which.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #15

    Not been Pardews biggest fan but full credit to him and the players yesterday
    Also showing once again that in all fairness to the bloke his man management skills are great and now that he’s no longer playing his favourites, making some bold selections and showing no one has a guaranteed spot in the 11 the benefits are starting show

    Some interesting battles coming up for selection, dummett has well and truly shown himself as a contender but fair play to santoon who also upped his game and put in a top drawer display
    No doubt Anita will want his place back and with tiote putting in one of the best displays I’ve seen off of him the pressure is well and truly on sissoko!

    Cabaye and Debuchy were absolutely top draw and showed why they are regular internationals
    Goofy and Remy well and truly have there eyes set on being starters so cisse jonas and marveux need to really up there game if there to force there way in to the squad!

    HBA certainly put the effort in but just didn’t work as a CF but certainly showed enough that with goof and Remy they have the making of a truly lethal front 3!

    So the only big question is who is are best CB pairing???
    Mbiwa I thought had a good game until a switching off for a moment which cost him dearly, still think the lad will come good, but who’d of thought it our best CB at the moment looks to be………Willo! The forgotten man and blog scape goat has been absolutely solid over the last two games!

    Now the big challenge for Pardew is to make sure the team are up to his challenge of performing to that level on a consistent basis

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  • bills-son

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #16

    TS,

    Some of these supposed fabulous forwards we missed out on like Bony and Van Wolfswinkel aren’t looking too clever either – the only team outside of the top six that looks as if it has moved on is Southampton and its still early days for them yet.

    All of those shouting about how far we have fallen behind even clubs outside of the top six need to give themselves a shake.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #17

    this is a little insight to sponsorships and all the things you can sponsor to make money

    http://soccerlens.com/football-advertising/11782/

    it has advertising board prices but the biggest club they mention is stoke…and it also doesn’t say if that price they charge is for the highest or lowest end of the scale.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #18

    Bills
    So talking purely about the stadium somehow voids the fact they also sponsor are training kits without coughing up for it does it?
    Does it make it any different that they are blocking a genuine source of revenue?

    Maybe you can’t accept that we’re being robbed and you can’t admit that constant praise is unbelievably mid placed – is that the problem?

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  • bills-son

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #19

    Tds,

    Credit where due, good post that at 15.

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  • pottsclock

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #20

    I like a good pie, but sadly Pete’s Pies of Stoke have not been transformed into the multi-billion, multi-national brand that I was hoping from their advertising at the Britannia stadium.
    There’s some much potential – pasties, flans, quiches, samosas….

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #21

    bills

    I would have liked another one or two players in during the summer, i won’t lie, but as i have said all season i still think we have the 8th best squad in the league and will finish 10th (mainly 10th not 8th due to how we can be inconsistent).

    My problem with ashley has never been mainly down to the players we sign or sell but down to the timings of these buying/selling of players…think that needs improving.

    would also like a more though out process in the running of the club…why have a very old school director of football, a mix of old school/attempting to be modern manager and then very modern/technical players…think it would be better if we had them all singing from the same hymn sheet in my opinion.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #22

    Sage
    Surely it doesn’t matter if it brings in £10 it £10 mil, it’s still a source of income which the top brass are telling us we need to bring in, so to have the board saying the club need to bring in money whilst the owner is piggybacking a company he’s a major share holder in for free is simply not on

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #23

    Transfer
    Yeah a lot of games we don’t get enough players joining the attack but I thought yesterday we got it right playing a bit more cautious with flat back four without Debuchy and Santon not bombing forward and the midfield acting as a defensive shield in front of the back four blocking the space for the Liverpool players to exploit

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #24

    tads

    very well put and couldn’t agree more…whether people like pardew or not i like to try and judge him by what i see and i think great credit for yesterday.

    cisse clearly isn’t working and we all know shola doesn’t do much (except when he played linking nicely with Ba) so it was nice to try hatem and see how it went.

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  • achtoon

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #25

    I haven’t posted for a long time but I keep reading this blog, mainly when we win as this site is a nightmare when we lose. I’ve supported Ashley and pardew but thelast game I went to was Liverpool at home and I took 3 Liverpool supporters and we got beat 6-0. that was my last straw for pardew but I’ve got to say the last few games we have played very well. I can’t understand why one player makes the difference. Pardew thinks we couldn’t play this was without remy, don’t make sense to me. one thing I have to say to all the Ashley haters is why does he go to all the games, including the ‘lesser’ away games? I’ve gone through all the scenarios and making money from advertising etc, this is a guy who does millions in a hand at cards. I’ve boiled down to the fact he just owns Newcastle for a bit of fun on a Saturday.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #26

    charlie

    i was very impressed with both fullbacks, especially debuchy as he did get forward but at the right time, not every time like he has been doing recently…they played very well.

    and i’d still like to see more of cabaye/sissoko getting into the box when the ball goes wide to support the striker more but we are definitely getting better.

    tads

    i see your point on advertising but it is costs us say only 100/200,000 a year then its not a big deal when we bring in 80/90mil with tv, tickets, shirts and sponsors….granted its better to have it than not but in the grand scheme it’s not that big of an impact.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #27

    Bills
    I’m not really interested in an argument, or if Ashley the best/ worse owner in history
    My point is no matter where SD are advertising, be it on kits, the stadium roof, the programme or even if they have part of the club shop, it’s still a legitimate source of income, the club have said we need to bring in additional funds, so whether or not it’s right or wrong for SD to advertise for free or for very little it’s still blocking what is potentially a very lucrative funding stream

    The big question is who’s the one trying to sort theses deals out now we don’t have a managing director?

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  • achtoon

    Oct 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #28

    tads

    i agree with you partially on the point of income. Chelsea and spurs are smallish clubs but because of investment they have got in the champions league which has boosted their income, we could do the same but bigger. my one (of many) criticisms of Ashley.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #29

    I posted a link earlier about what Spurs are doing to take them forward. I see nobody has commented on the article (miserable scumbags). I’ll post the link again to allow you to make an assessment/decide whether the Toon or Spurs are the most progressive club. Read the article -it’s not a bad read.
    http://www.someoneinlondon.com/category/projects/a-brandworld-for-tottenham-hotspur

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #30

    achtoon

    i think chesea is a different situation as they are 100% funded by a billionaire owner who has enough free cash to spend what he likes.

    spurs have shown through clever investment and good management what can be achieved building slowly bringing through kids and supplementing that with good buys of experienced players.

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  • stuart no9

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #31

    ok pards (and i hate to say it) done well yesterday played well with 11 men then battled to earn a very well earned point with 10- well done pards,however he normally pulls off 1 good game every season, remember stoke 3 years ago , remember man u at home 2 years ago, and who will forget that great win against chelsea last year.sooooo, before bigging pards up to be manager of the year on the back of-1 yes 1 good game, just hang fire and see how he performs the rest of the season,- or have we had our yearly ‘fix’ so early in the season? i hope we havnt, but , we will see.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #32

    Mr. tuff
    That’s the thing I really don’t understand Mike Ashley
    He’s handed out long contracts, made it clear-ish he wants to build long term yet appoints Dekka then Kinnear

    Surely he’s met enterprising business men in his time at SD, people with ideas, people who know how to build and run a project successfully?
    So why not appoint one! Why not appoint as smart forward think MD?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #33

    tads

    thats what i cant understand….surely he can see these people he hires aren’t the best.

    And also if we can see this as a fan, then surely he is a football fan and can see the same?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #34

    tads

    also if you don’t want to spend much money then surely you need to make sure you have the best possible people in place to get 100% out of the money you do put in

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  • achtoon

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #35

    Sage

    if Ashley wanted to make more money from us then he would invest more, champions league gets more viewers then premier league. that’s why i don’t think he is doing it for the money. The profit ashley could make from the toon is pennies compared to SD. I prefer an owner who turns up the games than someone who just does it as an investment. by the way i loved the way we played yesterday/

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Comment #36

    Sage
    Completely agree mate
    If you want to save money and get the club entirely self sufficient then yeah you’d get people in who are top of there fields even if was only to consult
    Your not going to be able to do that properly with a casino gaffer and a geriatric with Tourette’s syndrome and very sketchy memory!

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  • Ciaran

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #37

    Achtoon

    The money he would need to invest in order to crack top 4 would be more than the CL money would bring in. Currently PL clubs have signed the most lucrative TV deal ever, just for being in the league.

    Why would he spend 100 million+ in the off chance of CL football when he can invest less than 20 million and collect the TV money?

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  • stuart no9

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #38

    transfer- it is well documented that ashley is very generous towards his mates. If you are a pal of his , expect to be treated with respect , and to be showered with gifts , and bonuses- regardless of how well you perform in your specific role assignned to you , being a pal of his is worth more than any salary. He knows these people he hires may not be the best, but having his mates along side him, gives him the comfort he needs when the nasty geordie public voice their discontent towards him and the pathetic way he attempts to run a football club.

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  • achtoon

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #39

    TDS, arsenal owners target for the last 10 years was to make them the richest club in the world, they’ve paid off their stadium and spent 35m on one player who could win them the league. i’m hoping this is Ashley’s big plan.

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  • achtoon

    Oct 20, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #40

    cairn

    i disagree. Chelsea, man city, spurs, were smallish clubs who have been boosted by investment to get them in the big league. Newcastle could have at least 80K fans everyweek if we had a successful team. I remember a 20k waiting list when keegan was the manager and we had 50k in the stadium.

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