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Top Newcastle Youngster Stars In England’s 4-0 Win

10:54 am, Friday, October 25th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 56 Comments

We profiled  Adam Armstrong in September, as one of Newcastle’s most exciting young prospects, and this lad, still only 16,  has already impressed in the Newcastle U21 side this season, and he’s playing well for the England U17 side too.

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Adam Armstrong – after scoring England’s second goal yesterday

England U17s played last night against Armenia in the first qualifying game for the next European Under-17 Championships in Chile in 2015, and Adam got two of England’s goals in the easy 4-0 win.

Fulham’s Patrick Roberts scored a great goal and a neat finish from Dominic Solanke completed the scoring for England.

The England U17 side, like most of the country’s youth teams lately did not qualify for the FIFA U17 Championship, the 15th such tournament which is taking place right now in the United Arab Emirates, but are hoping to qualify for the next U17 Championships to be held in Chile.

Adam’s hero is Wayne Rooney, and physically he’s not unlike Wayne, and is powerfully built at 5′ 8″, and he’s a creative player and very good technically – and a natural number 10.

With five goals in his first five Newcastle U21 games, this lad could be precocious, and could even get a place on the first team bench before the end of this season.

It will be good to have a Wayne Rooney type player in the Newcastle side – and if this lad can maintain his simply phenomenal progress over the last couple of years he could be knocking on the first team door, sooner rather than later – and he doesn’t turn 17 until next February.

The former Walbottle Campus Technology College student and Newcastle City Juniors player is a couple of years younger than another Adam at the club – Adam Campbell – but both these lads are simply excellent prospects for Newcastle – and both are local lads too. :D

Comments welcome.



Tags: Adam Armstrong · Adam Campbell · Newcastle Academy · Newcastle News · Newcastle U21 · Newcastle Youth





56 responses so far ↓

  • 1 NUFC_LEAZES END // Oct 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    I think the starting 11 on Sunday should be

    Krul
    Debuchy willo taylor (dummet if Taylor isn’t fit) santon
    Cabaye tiote sissoko
    HBA remy gouffran

    I would like to see shola the mackem slayer make a late appearance aswell.
    Also does anyone know where marveaux is? Haven’t heard of him lately….

  • 2 Yohan Kebab // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    i want to see benny given another role in the false nine

  • 3 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Kebab,
    Same. HBA starts up front in the middle for me tomorrow. As I said earlier, I’d leave Sissoko out for Anita tomorrow. The rest pretty much picks itself.

    Arma looks a good prospect but comparing him to Rooney is a bit much. Rooney scored his wonder goal against Arsenal at 16. Let the kid develop without the weight of these comparisons.

    We also have Alex Gilihead who is a very talented player. skillful, and another youth international. Very slight though, saw on twitter the other day that he is now working more in the gym to beef himself up a bit.

    Imagine in 5 years time having an trio of local attackers playing for us.

  • 4 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Tomorrow? Sunday even. Getting ahead of myself cause I have a footy match this afternoon so it feels like a Saturday!

  • 5 Yohan Kebab // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    lilongwe

    im worried about people hyping up our youngsters, we did it with adam campbell and now hes plateaued, lets not do it with anyone else

  • 6 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Kebab,
    We do it with everyone. Pards did it with Tav and Sammi 2 years ago. Now he is doing it with Dummet. The fans aren’t blameless either. We do it all the time.

    These kids need a chance to develop without the spotlight on them. That is partly why a loan would be so beneficial for them. Get out and develop away from the ‘goldfish bowl’. Learn their trade without the pressure of being the next big thing. The odd one, like Rooney will thrive under the pressure, but the majority will buckle and stall.

  • 7 OhSholaAmeobi // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Krul
    Debuchy Willo Dummy Santon
    Tiote Anita
    Ben10 Cabs Remy
    Gouffy

    Bench: Elliot, Taylor, Sissoko, Marv, Sammy, Cisse, Shola

  • 8 Yohan Kebab // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    could we make a balanced team playing anita sissoko tiote and cabaye? a narrow 442 maybe, give us more solidity to cover our weak defense

  • 9 Blofal // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    The problem with buying young rookie CB’s is you can’t loan them out. Even league 2 clubs prefer to have an experienced partnership down back than parachuting in a PL rookie on loan.

    As a result these guys get no experience. Curtis Good was playing fullback for Bradford when he is a CB and from what I have read that was only because the managers are mates.

    The only way to give them experience and develop them is to train with the experienced players and ultimately play with the experienced players. You can’t blood a rookie like Streete or Good in the EPL because they will be ripped to shreds. Good played very well against Morecombe but I bet that’s the last we will ever see of him.

    I think the idea of a Premier League club developing young CB’s just doesn’t work apart from the very rare local gem coming through the academy (ie Dummett). Young CB players are better off working their way up through the leagues and getting recognised than being recruited young by top clubs.

  • 10 OhSholaAmeobi // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    With regards to defence, we have Dummett, Good, Satka, Mbabu and Streete to come through while the likes of Haidara and Santon are still young. Don’t rate Tavernier in the slightest, hope he goes next summer.

  • 11 Blofal // Oct 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    I would start the following team against Sunderland presuming Taylor is injured…

    Krul
    Debuchy Willo Dummett Santon
    Cabaye Tiote Sissoko
    Gouffran Remy Marveaux

    Subs: Elliot, Anita, Sammy, Cisse, Benny, Shola, Good

  • 12 Himanshu Dhingra // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Where is Marveaux BTW? No Injury news and has not been on the bench either.

  • 13 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Blofal,
    This season there are a number of young defenders out on loan in the championship and lower down. There are always young defenders loaned out. To say that clubs don’t like loaning centre backs is nonsense.

    Wabara, Bartley, Chalobah, Miquel, Dan Burn, Hobbs. All players are out on loan at the championship and are young central defenders primarily. There are even more when we include lower leagues.

  • 14 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Kebab,
    I don’t think we need to play that defensively. Sunderland are awful, and have a shocking back line. The best way for us is to play to our attacking strengths, get at them and press them back.

    Brown, O’Shea, Bardsley, Cuellar, Diakite, Colback, Gardner – which ever combination they play across the back the pace and movement of a trio of HBA, Goofy and Remy could pull them apart.

    HBA dropping slightly deeper as the centre forward will pull a centre back to far forward allowing Remy and Goofy more space to attack. If Pardslets them play an attacking game we could tear them apart IF our players turn up.

  • 15 Blofal // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Our advantage is a lot of these new Sunderland players have never played in a Derby and I think they might be caught out by how big a game it really is… much like our new signings were last Derby.

    I’ve put a hopeful fiver on 6-0. If it was ever going to happen it would be now. :P

  • 16 t00ntime // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Tbh theres only 4 youngsters that excite me atm.
    Haidara, he looked class last year. A few mistakes but first time in the bpl up until the injury was going quite well definitely if you compare him to Debuchys first time in the bpl

    Santon: He is already in the first team but only 22, I’m excited to see how good he turns out when he is 26/27. Unfortunatly I’m also worried we might be slowing down his progress. Hopefully I’m wrong

    Dummet: Didnt watch much of his loan but his 2 sub appearances he looked good. Stopped navas quite well, which isnt always easy. Hope we dont put too much pressure on him, I think he can become pretty good.

    Adam Armstrong: at 16 years old the kid seems to be living the dream. He needs to keep working and not feel like he has already made it. Big step up from U21s to actual bpl. I just hope his progress doesnt slow down dramatically like it seems Campbells has.

  • 17 OhSholaAmeobi // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Would make sense in january to loan out the likes of Campbell/Armstrong/Vuckic to the Championship/league one and bring in a winger or a striker, and to do the same with young defenders like Mbabu and Good.

  • 18 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    OhShola,
    We should let them go now, just make sure there is the recall option in the deals in case we have some sort of injury crisis!

  • 19 cyprus // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Mr. Motivator,
    *Motivate HBA into playing the level we know he can, scoring goals, frightening defenses.
    *Motivate Sissoko to become the new Viera.
    *Motivate Cabs to play well for us-that’s easy: mention Arsenal + France :)
    *Motivate Cisse, somehow!

  • 20 catchy in norway // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    I for one do not want to see the same formation as we had V Liverpool, I thought it was a shocking one, HBA looked lost , both remy and goofy tucked in and stayed back, we took control of the game but done nothing with it,
    you will not score many goals this way,

    V Scumderland, we have to dominate much higher up the pitch and keep them in there half,, we have the players to do so

  • 21 scout // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    The best bet is a sending off

  • 22 Transfer Sage // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Catchy

    Could use the same formation just with more freedom and higher up the field.

    Lilongwe

    Struggle to get them on loans with recall options as clubs need a set time they get the players for, so they can set up and plan ahead.

    Lads like Campbell, vukic , good, street, don’t get any game time at all , even with an injury crisis so may as well be out playing first team football all year.

  • 23 Lilongwe Geordie // Oct 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Sage,
    The only loans that are unlikely to have recall options in them will be fee based loans. For our youngsters they would more than likely have the option to bring them back. As we did with Campbell just recently with Carlisle.

    I agree get them first team football. But given our luck with injuries over the year we have to have that contingency, which would be highly likely anyway.

    The problem isn’t anything to do with the recall clause, they are still here because either nobody wants them, or the club don’t feel the sides interested are suitable.

  • 24 catchy in norway // Oct 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I think we need a focal point in the team, even though we got a point out of the liverpool game, we had no teeth in the game,

    we will see,,
    expecting pardew to panic and choke

  • 25 Big Pappa Cissé // Oct 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Team for the Mackems :

    —————————–Krul——————————-

    –Debuchy——–Willo———Dummet——–Santon–

    —————————–Tiote——————————
    ————Sissoko———————–Cabaye————

    ——–Gouffran———-Remy————–HBA——–

    Same back four that held on for 60 minutes against Liverpool as it will give our defence a mental boost . Remy through the middle as he was very quiet against Liverpool and we need our top goal scorer as close to the box as possible.

    3-1 to NUFC with a Remy brace and Cabaye or HBA to pick up the third. HWTL :)

  • 26 Ibizatoon // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    The blogs nearly as dead as Sunderland are going to be on Sunday!

    Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder 38m

    So Coloccini reports of being out until Christmas were incorrect according to Alan Pardew #nufc . Likely to be back for #mcfc or #chelsea

  • 27 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    BBC reporting the squad to be:

    Newcastle squad: Krul, Elliot, Debuchy, Coloccini, S. Taylor, Williamson, Good, Santon, Dummett, Tiote, Anita, Cabaye, Marveaux, Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi, Bigirimana, Obertan, Vuckic, Cisse, Remy, Gouffran, Shola Ameobi.

    Some of the media do talk such utter crap and too many people just lap it up. Colo out until Christmas? Says who?

    We have Colo, Saylor, Willo and Good in the squad for centre backs.

    Raylor, Haidara and Jonas injured and MYM suspended. I think that’s it. Unusual for us!

  • 28 Ibizatoon // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    TDSard…Unusual indeed. Still too early to say, but I am intrigued to see how much of an effect Faye Downey has on the squad over the season.

  • 29 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Ibiza

    They really should have less muscle injuries with a professional like that on board. Doing your ACL or receiving a bad tackle is just part of the game but we shouldn’t have as many muscle injuries and injuries like hamstring and groin strains should be better managed.

    I don’t know how much Faye is getting paid but it wouldn’t take many gained weeks from a player to justify a high salary!

  • 30 DokToon // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    gmorning all…

    i just got an alert saying colo is well, and may be ready v the mackems…

  • 31 DokToon // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    wonder exactly what kind of trainer she is lol….

  • 32 Ibizatoon // Oct 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    TDSarf…Firstly, apologies for the “Sard” :)

    Absolutely, you can’t stop injuries, they happen. It will be interesting to see if they keep her on beyond this year.

    Dok…Good morning / afternoon. I doubt he will play this weekend, but it’s great to hear he wont be out until Christmas.

  • 33 NOVA2967 // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Wow,Adam Campbell and Armstrong…. two Rooney’s

    Still waiting on Campbell which doesnt seem great at the moment

  • 34 jayphoto // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Been working in Liverpool this last few days, been chatting to a few liverpool fans and theyve all said sakho is their weak link at the moment! No1 seems to rate him from what they’ve seen! Bullet dodged for 17m and 90k a week

  • 35 Ketsbaia9 // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Is Marveaux injured? He should be in the starting line-up. Luckily Cabaye has picked his game up. Definitely the best he’s played for us in recent weeks.

    Our bench is so poor. We need to make at least another 5 major signings in january.

  • 36 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Ibiza – I’ve been called worse!

    NOVA – Campbell is 18. It’s a bit early to write him off! Just because Owen and Rooney were banging them in at that age, doesn’t mean everyone does. Look at the likes of Ian Wright.

    jayphoto – early days mate. Enrique and Colo looked dire in their first season for us.

    Kets – nah…I won’t bother…

  • 37 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    One thing about Campbell is that he’s always looked like he needs to bulk up and get stronger. Some people just developer later physically and he may be best suited doing that with us. I’m not sure he’s particularly suited to getting bashed around in League One…

  • 38 lesh // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Ibizatoon @26

    Of course Colo might be back sooner than initially mis-reported – didn’t you know that Argentian media live in a different timezone to ours.

    Or our main man, Kinnear’s been on the case to correct any misunderstandings?

    Just as Kinnear’s in a different world, maybe he’d fit in very well in the Argentine?

  • 39 Ketsbaia9 // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    I still think that Marveaux and Anita are the best technical footballers in the squad.

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Kets

    Technically you might be right but marvoux especially doesn’t contribute enough in his good 10 minute spell during the game to be worth carrying him for the other 80.

    TDS

    No excuse for Campbell to not be strong enough. If he isn’t physically up to it then playing football won’t help, give him 2 months of monitered gym time with a professional and get him right. That’s my view anyway.

    Happens in other sports like cricket, rugby and boxing.

    He doesn’t need to get huge and be bulky just get enough strength to do a job, like the type of strength HBA, Suarez, messi, aguero, etc have. Not bulk just enough strength and clever body positioning.

  • 41 cyprus // Oct 25, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Ketsbaia,
    People dismiss your points too easily sometimes. I was wondering too what’s going on with Marveaux who, on his game, can be a combination of Cabs and HBA. Anita has had some good performances but I worry that he’s ‘similar’ in many ways to Cabs. Together, the two, tend to get dominated by other ‘bigger’ ‘tougher’ MFs.

    Hats off on predicting that Man U are a mid table team ;)

  • 42 Yohan Kebab // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    transfer sage

    i think the positioning is much more important than the brute strength

    i have seen people, 5ft 6 with the slightest build play fullback and get by perfectly fine from just getting their body infront of the ball, knowing when to barge etc

    whether this is different for an attacker i do not know

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    kebab

    I think positioning is very important but also need some level of strength.

    Not sure of campbell has this or not, never seem him have much of a run against a proper team.

    Owen was never strong, just relied on his pace to get in behind and his movement in the box. So campbell doesn’t need to get much bigger, just a couple months of strength training should also increase his pace as well.

  • 44 Yohan Kebab // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    transfer sage, admittedly i havent seen much of campbell either, just his goal records for the u18s and reserves which whilst obviously a different level is still impressive, but i can say he is lightning fast, as fast as any attacker in the pl atm, rather like a raw hernandez

    he is the third person from our academy i have seen and gone yep this lad will make it.

    i have one wrong and one right so far, the other too being krul and ranger!

  • 45 Transfer Sage // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    cyprus

    I like marv but he isn’t consistent enough during a game and doesn’t work hard enough either. I do wonder where he is, i asked the other day but don’t think anyone replied.

  • 46 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Cyprus

    People dismiss his comments because it’s the scattergun effect…every so often something will hit the target!

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    kebab

    I like campbell, made his case a lot last year here. I think he needs a loan though, even if it is out to scotland.

    Playing under 21′s for us is no good at 18, he needs to be playing against men who will rough him up. He has shown he is good against kids his age but whats he like against a clever old 36 year old defender who knows all the tricks of the trade.

  • 48 wolfshead@toon // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Ketsbaia,
    People dismiss your points too easily sometimes. I was wondering too what’s going on with Marveaux who, on his game, can be a combination of Cabs and HBA. Anita has had some good performances but I worry that he’s ‘similar’ in many ways to Cabs. Together, the two, tend to get dominated by other ‘bigger’ ‘tougher’ MFs.

    Hats off on predicting that Man U are a mid table team ;)

  • 49 Jackel001 // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    According to the clubs website, colo could play on Sunday?!

  • 50 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    TS

    Lads develop at different stages. Gerrard was having terrible injury problems at a young age, whereas Rooney was strong as an ox. At 18 it can do more harm than good to push the physical side of things.

    Players develop differently with their ability too. Look at Townsend who is suddenly looking like a very good PL player, compared to Rooney and Owen who looked world class at 16/17. Not every player can be like that.

  • 51 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    TS

    Also, I’m sure he’s had plenty of gym time with professionals, sometimes it takes a lot longer! There are plenty of sportsmen in all different sports who developed later in life, sometimes physically and sometimes mentally. Sometimes both.

  • 52 wolfshead@toon // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    lesh

    uncle joe did co write dont cry for me argentina with webber and rice :-)

  • 53 Transfer Sage // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    TDS
    granted, everyone comes through at their own pace but i never buy this too much too young argument.

    look at olympians, most of them under go a hell of a lot of physical training before 18 and compete with fully grown men in tournaments…suppose they are the cream of the crop though.

    I know he won’t want to over do it but i am never sure how much gym work is done. Roy hodgson did an interview 2 years or so ago with clive woodward and hodgson said a lot of players dont do gym work or additional training as most clubs see it as optional…he said it was obvious to spot those who work hard and those who don’t. Ronaldo is a top talent but got himself there with total dedication.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/tfbs6/sporting-heroes-sir-clive-woodward-interviews-roy-hodgson

  • 54 Mister Tuff // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    I see the Chronicle are currently doing a survey about their coverage of NUFC. Now’s everyone’s chance to air their views. Link to poll.
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-survey-your-views-6242994?

  • 55 lesh // Oct 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    wolfshead@toon // @52

    Don’t forget how he planned and executed the re-taking the Falklands having motivated Thatcher throughout her times of crisis.

    He really is an unsung and very modest hero!

  • 56 kt97toonarmy // Oct 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    I was reading a comment earlier nd toonbrother made a stupid comment regarding colo being a leaky defender. Wow its mad colo is our best defender nd id love to have him in the defence for sunday

    HWTL




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