Newcastle Manager Blows Up In Dressing Room


The news today that Newcastle manager Alan Pardew tore into some of his players in the dressing room, after the disastrous loss to Sunderland on Sunday, doesn’t surprise us, in fact that’s just exactly what he should have done – because it simply wasn’t good enough, and if some of our players aren’t willing to walk through a brick wall for the side, in every game,  they should let the manager know and we can sell them in January.

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Alan Pardew – how come no crosses into the box?

The shouting took place before Alan Pardew gave his after the game interviews on Sunday, and they couldn’t have been easy for the manager, but the players deserved to be admonished – maybe there’s a better word than that one –  for losing a second successive game to Sunderland for the first time in 46 years – and as we said it simply isn’t good enough.

The Chronicle and Lee Ryder are reporting that one senior player let his team mates know in no uncertain terms – that it simply wasn’t good enough  – maybe that was Cheick Tiote?

Here is what a source in the dressing room told the Chronicle today:

“There was some shouting from the manager afterwards.” “It boiled down to the fact that there weren’t enough crosses going in for the front men.”  “And there was emphasis on why Newcastle seemed to be lacking in general team play.”

This is a very serious time for manager Alan Pardew – make no mistake about that – and if some players continue to deliver only when they see fit, maybe they shouldn’t even be at a club like Newcastle United?

Alan Pardew is under significant pressure at the club, and he knows it, so it will be interesting to see what team he picks for tomorrow night – forget about the Chelsea game on Saturday, because every game is now important,  after losing twice in  a row to Sunderland.



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72 comments so far

  • geordieboy83

    Oct 29, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #1

    Catchy

    You would think Ashley would be keeping an eye in the situation. He’s hardly gunna cost the world to release from his contract, would jump at the chance to manage in England and I’d imagine have the respect instantly if players and fans alike.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #2

    TS

    There are several arguments against that JfA point though:
    1 – we were also loss making so debts would have continued to increase
    2 – we had been in the CL recently
    3 – our club was already in decline in all ways you can think of (youth, first team, finances, performances were all in decline from SBRs time)

    Since Ashley has taken over, Man City have bought one of the top 4 places and Spurs have continued their progression to be one of the top 6 teams. Previously top 4 was more attainable because it was Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool/Newcastle/Spurs/Everton for 4th place.

    You’re right though, Ashley brought these problems onto himself. But seeing as Ashley is stubborn and the more extreme fans are stubborn, then we’re stuffed.

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  • cyprus

    Oct 29, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #3

    AP should be angry as MA should be angry at him. Players just aren’t combining enough…

    Wasn’t Hughton fired about end of October. Some will say, we are worse off now, given the recent Sunderland poor record.

    Hughton, before he ‘left’ us:

    “His first home win on return to the Premier League came on 22 August, when Newcastle thrashed Aston Villa 6–0, with 3 goals from Andy Carroll, 2 goals from Kevin Nolan and 1 goal from Joey Barton. Hughton received praise for his calm management style to stabilise the club, shrewd signings and guiding Newcastle back to the Premier League. Prior to Newcastle’s 1–1 draw with Wolverhampton Wanderers and away win at Everton, he completed the signings of Cheick Tioté and Hatem Ben Arfa. Despite leading his newly promoted side to healthy ninth place by the end of October, unrest came when star player Andy Carroll was arrested for assault. Newcastle followed this with wins at West Ham United and a memorable 5–1 derby victory against Sunderland. Both before and after the victory Hughton received the backing of his players and the Newcastle supporters. Later in 2010, Hughton led United to their first win against Arsenal in five years, beating Arsenal 1–0 at the Emirates Stadium with an Andy Carroll header.

    Following a 3–1 defeat at West Brom in December, Hughton became the first Premier League manager of the 2010–11 season to lose his job.” Wikipedia

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  • cyprus

    Oct 29, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #4

    PS.
    Who is responsible for the players ‘bunching up’ during corners? Dude, I think I’ve spotted something: IT DOESN’T WORK.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #5

    Cyprus,Pardew wont have so easy much longer, that very first win at home to Lpool bought him a lot of time which after that humiliation against Stevenage he maybe didn’t deserve, the fifth place finish was huge for him as it made people tolerate his sometimes woeful football, and the only reason that he got let off lightly last season was the fact that every in that stadium knew he had been shat on from a great height then hung out to dry, his playing patsy all summer in my opinion has lost him the respect he had and I can see him getting both barrels if this inconsistency carries on, but by only shooting the monsters voice box out you’re not stopping the problem.

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  • cyprus

    Oct 29, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #6

    Jail,
    Can’t disagree with any of that…

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #7

    TDsarf,
    There is no doubt we needed our house cleaning up, I just think a better owner than Mike Ashley could have done it, we struggled for a bit after KK left and SBR brought us back, with the right ownership we might have done the same again, instead we got an owner who immediately went out to set up a mistrustful poisinous atmosphere to suit his own paranoid poisnous personality.

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  • DokToon

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #8

    gmorning all,

    on derby day, i lost power at my home due to a storm, so i went to my inlaws, who generously allowed me to watch the match there… power was restored just before debuchy scored… so pards had nothing on me the way i was yelling 🙂

    so disappointing that one must rip into players to motivate versus our rival… any one of us would give his left arm to be in that spot on the pitch… here’s hoping we’re up for citeh, chelsea and spurs… we need results….

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #9

    TDS

    replied on previous thread.

    And good, this is just normal behaviour, we need more of this on the pitch. John Anderson on BBC Newcastle total sport last night complained when mistakes are made on the pitch too often it’s a pat on the back or an applause, sometimes you need somebody to let you know it’s not good enough. I 100% agree with that, even from playing amateur team sports.

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  • nufc 11

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #10

    Well about fcuking time, for a man whos about to loose his job id have done alot more than just shout, AP played a young LB at CB and was caught out and he plays a right footed LB in Santon who has to check back every time cross the ball giving opp RB the chance to cut out any 1st time crosses into the box might have something to do with it AP.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #11

    Can’t see the players enjoying playing for Pardew, the belief just isn’t there and hasn’t been there for a long time.

    He can blow up as much as he like’s the fact remains he’s out of his depth and incapable of getting consistent performances out of our players

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  • Ciaran

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #12

    You can tell an awful lot about a person’s agenda by their first comment of the day. My first comment of the day was to promote Time4Change, and to encourage people to join the mailing list to keep up to date with what they are doing. I feel it would benefit fans to keep themselves informed about what this fans group is doing for you.

    TDS’ 1st comment of the day wasn’t related to Mike Ashley gagging the free press. It wasn’t related to our upcoming league cup match against Man City, nor was it related to where we are going in the league after another derby day defeat. It was a comment geared at trying to undermine fans who are trying to effect positive change.

    What does that say about his agenda?

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  • terencelim

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #13

    @Ciaran, just ignore people with negative personality like him. Focus on positive change and eventually we’ll be there.

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  • sweendog

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #14

    Play strikers and wingers and there may be crosses in the bid

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #15

    ciaran

    Ease off. You two don’t see eye to eye so no point arguing with each other all day, it just takes up time where we could all discuss things about the club.

    Also did you get my email last night sent to your site?

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  • sweendog

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #16

    *box not bid

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  • sweendog

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #17

    Formation wise pardew isn’t far off with 433 .. But he can’t get the team playing as a team or plays too many players out of position

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  • cyprus

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #18

    Does anyone here work for MA? I know of the zero hours, but is he as bad as we make him?

    “His staff say he is immensely collegiate and engenders huge loyalty. Hence Sports Direct has, as evidenced this week, the most generous employee shares bonus scheme on the stock market. Since its launch, employee turnover has halved to 15 per cent – low by retail standards.

    Forsey may be his longest serving lieutenant, but there are many more who have been with the business well over a decade. It’s no coincidence that, when he was photographed in the tabloids stripping down to his boxers with friends at a boozy karaoke party recently, the occasion was a celebration in a local Chinese restaurant of a Sports Direct manager’s birthday. Ashley had hired the whole place. As one partygoer told The Sun: “Mike gets stick from some people but he’s a brilliant boss.”

    Sorry Ciaran, Jail, I say focus on the manager. For now. Owner change is a long term project. Isn’t this guy like 4th richest? Isn’t he set to make more? And, mainly, are there any takers?

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  • Ciaran

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #19

    Terence

    I tend to ignore him more and more these days as he has all but lost his credibility, however, in the off chance that anyone listens to what he says, I do like to point out that he does appear to have an agenda that is geared towards undermining those who are trying to do something positive. He is a snake in the grass.

    Sage

    I did indeed, just read it a few minutes ago. I will look into what you suggested and see what kind of direction I could take that in. I don’t want to act outside my remit though so I would need to check with certain people.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #20

    sweendog

    4-3-3 seems to be the best formation for the players we have, but what we need is intensity in our game, a desire to close down space, win the ball back and stop allowing the opposition time and space to play.

    It’s the one thing we’ve been lacking for so long and it’s the one thing that doesn’t take money to put right, it’s put right on the training ground

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  • Ciaran

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #21

    Cyprus

    I will always disagree with you on that point. If an owner is a long term issue, all the more reason to start work on doing something about it. Or do we just twiddle our thumbs and hope for a white knight on a gallant steed to come riding into Newcastle to save us from the evil villain Mike Ashley?

    No doubt many fans think like that, whereas I am more of a believer in affirmative action.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #22

    someone said if you want to get rid of a manager get on the owners back assley might just sack pards to ease the pressure off himself goodbye alan hello joe tho i see poyet is 2nd fav lol

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  • Ciaran

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #23

    On the topic of football,

    I’d be very surprised if we escaped tomorrow night with anything less than a trimming. However, we are so consistently inconsistent that perhaps we could catch City cold and nick a result.

    I cannot see it because we will not be playing our full strength side, and anything less than full strength will not be strong enough to cope with even City’s second string. Our squad is so small we have to decide between either getting spanked off City and only getting a slight beating off Chelsea, or get a slight beating off City and getting spanked by Chelsea…

    Decisions, decisions.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #24

    Cyprus,
    Look no further, we have our very own SD employee of the month right here on the blog spouting sh1te about his favourite boss everyday.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #25

    ooh cyprus i think you misjudged the mood there lol plus you lost your argument in the first line billionaire owner – staff on zero hour contracts hardly the mark of a philanthropist is it

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #26

    ciaran

    yeh you’d need to get in touch but i just thought your blog, or another one you could do might be a good way to get their message to even more fans.

    and on tomorrows game…i think we are so unpredictable we could win, not the likely out come but no reason we cant.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #27

    cyprus

    We need to focus on the owner not the manager as its the owner who employs the manager and Ashley has already shown that he is reluctant to axe Pardew despite last season pathetic efforts

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #28

    Hmmm…yet it’s all Pardew’s fault for the players not doing what he told them to do.

    Pardew needs to be judged based on a series of performances over a period of time. By that I mean sack him if we’re not looking like top half when we get to December and sack him if we don’t get top half at the end of the season too.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #29

    cyprus

    Tell the people (and kids) who work in the sweat shops abroad he is a kind and generous boss.

    The man is reasonable with his staff, a lot (90% as quoted in the commons) I know who work there (only 3 people) really like it compared to other retail jobs they have had and think they are fairly rewarded for the work they do.

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  • JackButler

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #30

    ToonDarnSarf

    “Pardew needs to be judged based on a series of performances over a period of time”

    What like a period of 47 games from the start of last season efforts???

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  • sweendog

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #31

    Jackbutler .. Agreed ..

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  • geordieboy83

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #32

    Sage

    I like your posts mate very balanced. Would you be happy with a new owner, same manager? New manager same owner, or a complete overhaul mate?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #33

    TDS

    like how last year we fell from 5th to 16th? that not a sackable offence?

    Granted we had europe, but he changed the team massively (8 changes a game).

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  • DokToon

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #34

    ciaran,

    what would you prefer then, a cup win vs citeh, or a win vs chelsea?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #35

    JfA

    Pretty much right there! Sad isn’t it?

    I think only a fool would deny that Ashley has done some good work in stabilising the business side of the club but has sadly also done some wonderful work in destabilising the football side of the club.

    This isn’t the basis of my objection to T4C and the ‘Ashley Out’ brigade. I want what is best for the club and I don’t want Ashley to just dump the club onto a Venky’s or someone similar. We’re currently an upper mid-table team in the PL with little indication that we can improve on that any time soon, but it could be a lot worse. If a new owner comes out with these great plans then I’ll be delighted but all of this just further destabilises the club.

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  • sweendog

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #36

    To highlight one plus cabaye is playing higher up the field and making more impact.. Problem we have is pardew can’t sort out arfa and the attackers to link up .. And tiote and the centre defense to work correctly .. And the wingbacks to provide more of an attacking threat .. Phhh. Once you start analyzing the faults it spirals

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #37

    geordieboy

    I’d like both a new owner and manager.

    However I’d settle for ashley if we appointed a proper MD (get the best commercially), a good DOF, a good manager and got rid of wonga and sports direct (nothing massive against sports direct but it rubs a lot of fans the rang way, be a nice apology by him).

    But knowing how things go in football, and how rare a new owner is, I’d have to settle for a manager who is technical, is used to working with tight regulations and having limited control (majority in europe by the way, very english to have total control, and very prem league to use money as the solution to everything).

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #38

    TS

    Different people are motivated by different things. I learned this myself early on when I was a team leader on several projects. Some people only responded when they were told what to do but others sulked if you told them forcefully, so you had to ask them if they could help out and you needed them. Funny thing management…

    But as a unit, absolutely they needed to be told off. Sounds like they didn’t do their job.

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  • sweendog

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #39

    Newcastle of old would aim for hiddink and some star players bought .. When did such a big team agree with Ashley’s mediocrity or money making

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  • BuckLuck

    Oct 29, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #40

    It’s the managers job to get the best out of the players. End off. If they don’t want to play for him then Ashley can choose to sell 5-6 players or get a new manager in. Peronally I would change manager.

    Solskjaer is a good shout, though I can see him rejecting us like he rejected Villa. He is, as Ferguson wrote in his book, an exeptional human being and stands for modern football. I would love him to be given a couple of seasons at SJP 🙂

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