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Questions On Who Will Be Fit For Manchester City

12:11 pm, Tuesday, October 29th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 52 Comments

Maybe Newcastle’s best chance of qualifying for Europe next season is to do well in the local Cups, since it doesn’t look like we will be able to finish high enough in the league table to qualify by that route.

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Steven Taylor –  we’ll have to so well in the Cups

And we should get to know at Alan Pardew’s press conference later today, which players will be available for tomorrow’s night’s Capital One Cup tie against  Manchester City, with particular interest on whether Steven Taylor and Fab Coloccini will be fit for the game.

Steven Taylor has talked today about the local Cup competitions:

“Obviously we aren’t in Europe this year so we have to make sure we do well in the League Cup and the FA Cup.” “That’s what we’re trying to do. We must stand our ground in that.”

“The last few seasons we have been a bit sloppy in certain games. We have to take the cups by the scruff of the neck and do well in them.”

“Yeah absolutely we should play a strong side. I’m sure that is what the manager will do.” “We want to do well in that. We talked about it at the start of the season and we want to do well in the cups.”

“With the players we’ve got there should be no reason why we can’t do well.”  “We have to play well as a team and hopefully get the stroke of luck we need too.”

Taylor hasn’t played since the first game against City in August, when he was sent off in that game, but we don’t know if he’ll be fit for tomorrow night, but if he is, he will probably come into central defense alongside Mike Williamson, and Paul Dummett could move over to left back.

Fab Coloccini could also be fit, but from some comments the manager made earlier, Pardew may play it safe and bring Colo back for Saturday, and it looks like we will need him in the side.

And we’re not sure whether Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa will get a game tomorrow night – since he’s now available after serving his one game ban, maybe he could play in one of the full back spots?

So we should get to know later today which players will be fit for the City game, and of course the team needs to do well and get the win,  it’s really as simple as that.

Comment welcome.



Tags: Capital One Cup · Coaching · Fabricio Coloccini · League Cup · Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa · Newcastle News · Paul Dummett · Steven Taylor



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52 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Ed man,
    They won’t even be doing Europe in a pre season tour next year, unless Scotland get independence.

  • 2 wolfshead@toon // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    ciaran

    your popular today cos i agree with you lol id rather see the back of assley he has done more to drag nufc down than pards has if a new owner came in with a proper budget for new players and pards flopped he could easily be shipped out assley going would be like the fall of saddam :-)

  • 3 Ciaran // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    “We want to do well…” Not “We want to win…”

    Please Steven, do yourself a favour and shut up.

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Look at Ashleys managerial appointments, KK which I thought was a fantastic move, but he was sh!t on and we got the owners favourite Crazy gang JfK, who was cheap with heart problems and ultimately had a heart attack, then another local legend who wasn’t very good but demanded a transfer kitty and wasn’t even told he wasn’t coming back, then there was Hoots who overseen a disastrous spell as care taker but who proved to be excellent. Sacked apparently for not getting the players to sign a bonus, then we have Pardew who would have been sacked at any other club, but hasn’t been not because of results but because he tows the party line, so unless we basically get somebody in who is prepared to put up with Ashleys antics then we are stuck with mediocre results that will have us fighting for survival every year.

  • 5 Scottiedog // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Looking at team we have you have to blame Pardew for the shite we played on Saturday! How are people saying its MA’s fault?? That is like buying a Ford Fiesta, being late for work and them phoning the Garage and complaining!!!
    MA’s only fault is that he put Pardew on such a long contract, but it could be said he did that when we finished high up the table that year and Pardew BS’d his way to get it.
    Pardew MUST be gone by the end of this month if we are to get anywhere this season. If we can get a Zola in to give a clear direction of where he want to take us I think Ashley will go with it as Pardew is literally taking it week by week.

  • 6 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    So reading that statement, the players and patsy want to do well in the cups but the hierarchy aren’t fussed, you can just feel the harmony oozing out of the place.

  • 7 wolfshead@toon // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    scottie

    it was the same team as the liverpool game

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Scottiedog,
    Wrong, he never got it after the season we finished fifth, that would have been his reward in May, he got after the transfer window had closed and he had been hung out to dry, the eight year contract just appeased the slimy git and saved any tantrums and walking away.

  • 9 JackButler // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Scottiedog

    There’s no chance of Ashley pulling the trigger on Pardew time as our manager. He has his ‘Yes’ man extraordinaire and will not have anyone at the club who would dare to question his reign. The only chance of Pardew going is if Ashley could find another lackey desperate for a job

  • 10 mindshaft // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Well Man City have only won 1 away game in prem league and have been beaten 3 times, Pellegrini has them set up to counter attack so as long as we keep midfield and defence tight we might sneak a goal and win
    Same goes for Chelsea at the weekend and Spurs have one of the lowest goals for in the league

    On the flip side we have the 3rd worst goals against in the league…

  • 11 toon kk // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Oh what a waste of space Nufc has become. Very average squad badly overrated by most fans, our football is more irritable to watch as time goes by.
    TBh we’d be better off in the championship where we could compete, MA could carry on running us on the cheap and we could watch a better game. I’m fed up these days I’ll always support Newcastle but should it not be exciting and fun?

  • 12 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    sweendog

    Something needs to change for sure, but at the moment the whole club is broken from owner to fans. We won’t be able to attract a top manager until that relationship is repaired.

    And don’t forget, the last 10 years have seen Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal just get richer and richer while City have bought their way into the top 4 and Spurs have worked hard to be in the top 6.

  • 13 BandB // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    I wonder if SPORTS DIRECT owner Mike Ashley imagined his effort to ban free speech would attract so much bad publicity?
    SPORTS DIRECT owner Mike Ashley continues to garner a reputation for acting in rather unpredictable ways.
    I also wonder how long it will be before SPORTS DIRECT owner Mike Ashley realizes that this might not be a great thing if these shoddy carryings on become permanently linked in the public’s mind with SPORTS DIRECT.

  • 14 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    1 – no top class manager would join us given the current turmoil
    2 – no Geordie billionaire exists to my knowledge
    3 – we are not as much of an attractive project to a potential owner as some fans seem to believe
    4 – the battle between a minority of the fans and the owner is a battle between the fans and the club

  • 15 WWSBRD // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    City’s second string are still a hell of a team and we won’t put out a full strength team highly doubt we will go much further in this cup

    Unfortunately that’s not the most pressing NUFC talking point once again it’s Ashley and his attitude towards the club, the fans and now the media. Still people defending him though? Christ what does the man have to do?

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    TDS

    under the current regime you are right, no top or proven prem manager would join us.

    but as I keep posting there are many managers in europe where it is the norm they dont spend millions, the norm where a DOF takes decisions away from them, the norm for them to work with owners who made there money in much less accepted ways than ashley.

    No reason these people, some of which are very talented, couldn’t be brought in.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    my choice would be

    Marcelino García Toral

    the manager of villareal…got them playing great, newly promoted and also plays a great style of pressing football.

  • 18 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    TS

    All of which are totally unproven in the PL, many of their type have failed in the past. Maybe Swansea could handle taking a risk to get relegated because their wage bill is so much lower than ours and many of their players would stay despite relegation, but we can’t.

    Our club would be in serious trouble if we’re relegated again. Either Ashley would have to subsidise us and create more debt on the club, or we’d have a complete fire sale. Either way, we’d be set back about 5 years and most of our top players would leave.

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    1 No top class manager would work under Ashley.
    2 Abromovich and the Mansours aren’t Cockneys or Mancs.
    3 We are the third best supported club in England.
    4 This ‘ minority’ of fans love the club more than you ever will.

  • 20 Transfer Sage // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    TDS

    true…but thats why you hire a manager you believe is good enough, not just somebody who has done well.

    Look for somebody who would suit the type of players we have and would want, look for somebody who can work under current owner conditions, its no more of a risk of getting a proven prem manager as you see many proven prem managers fail and take sides down as well.

  • 21 scitoon // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Aye, i just saw the proposed citeh team for Wed. Jeez, i initially voted YES to the win vote earlier. Man we are gonna get stuffed.

    Funny how optimism can drain away as the day wears on. Maybe, it is because this blog is full of daydreaming rubbish about OGS or Zola coming to save the day. Pardew will not be sacked. Ashley is unlikely to sell up and leave. Where does that leave us, the fans? Marches and protests that have no effect whatsoever. Oh and having to watch the unclean beat us. Again.

    This day is just getting better and better.

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    TDsarf,
    Wtf would he have to heap debt on us, why wouldnt the worlds 384th richest man accept some responsibility for the mess he has got himself and more importantly us, in.

  • 23 sweendog // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    TDs .. We have a good team on paper.. And a big stadium and big support .. What’s broken is tactics and club direction .. Souness. Big Sam had to go.. Maybe its pardews time but if so the next manager needs backed ..

  • 24 sweendog // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Transfer sage .. Good choice

  • 25 WWSBRD // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    JfA
    Can’t expect an owner to take responsibility howay man are u mad?!

  • 26 sweendog // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    There’s simple things pardew needs to do to sort it out ..
    1 sissoko is not a winger
    2 play to attackers strengths. Ie arfa and remy
    3 make sure our wingbacks attack.. That’s their strength
    4 press higher up the pitch

  • 27 sweendog // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    And importantly when pressing do this as a team

  • 28 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    JfA

    1 – No top class manager would manage under Ashley as we are now, true. But that’s not completely Ashley’s fault.
    2 – they’re not cockney’s or mancs but if things went wrong then some fools would still blame their nationality for not grasping Geordies
    3 – I keep hearing this rubbish of “3rd best supported club in England”. You mean we have the 3rd highest attendance? I bet Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea have many many more fans than us globally and that’s what counts. Probably Spurs and City do too.
    4 – love the club so much that they are hurting it?

  • 29 stuart no9 // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    ED does it really matter who is fit for wednesday?
    I honestly think the football has lost its importance. To much ‘off the field’ matters are taking over the day to day preparations of trying to win a football match – so bad has it become.
    Am i bothered if we get beat off city? not really. why it only becomes another hurdle in our fight to stay away from the relagation zone , if anyone has forgot , we are only 3 points away from getting relegated , it maybe early doors but if we ever get in that position , the way we are being run and the pathetic football we are playing , we wont get out of it this time.The only good thing to come out of being relegated is that our owner will lose a fortune and may sell up- which could be a good thing,
    Pardew must go. He dosnt know how to get us playing with confidence, and i believe he is starting to work his magic on remy, give him a couple more games and we will have 2 CFs who havnt got a clue what they are supposed to be doing or where they are playing , another one who will be looking to be away come summer.
    If Ash refuses to leave then hu must sack pardew , no ifs or buts about it , coz we will be in trouble by the time we have played -city-chelsea- spurs , we will be in the bottom 3 with a shite manager in charge . BAD times ahead. brace yourself.

  • 30 geordiemark // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    calling mr ashley why dont you just sack everyone connected to NUFC and then you could put your zero hour workforce out to play all of our games this season you mide as well the way your running the club

  • 31 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    JfA

    Stupid boring tired old argument. Most owners don’t give money to the club, they loan it. Our previous owners damn sure didn’t give us any money, they just took it!

    Get over yourself demanding he gives money to the club, there’s no reason he should. We might want it because the owners of Chelsea and City have but the owners of most of the other clubs haven’t!

  • 32 wolfshead@toon // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    sage

    you have a fetish about DOFs if i remember correctly they were all the rage on the continent in the 90s but lately they have fallen out of fashion as a lot of managers rebelled against them and as for the prem thinking spending money solves probs the biggest spenders are barca madrid monaco psg etc

  • 33 Transfer Sage // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    wolfs
    spending money gets success, i agree, but it’s not essential to spend huge amounts to get success. Look at dortmund as the example, they make some biggish signings around the 20mil euro mark, but they recoup that with player sales…same as spurs have been doing to grow…nothing we can’t do better.

    Also a fetish about DOFs? have i? I don’t really think they are massively important if you have a good MD/owner who runs things and a good head scout.

    I think that there are plenty of managers, with a DOF or not in europe, who have very very limited budgets and often lose there best players. Thats my main point, they work under very difficult conditions, more so than pardew does.

  • 34 Transfer Sage // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    wolfs

    also most spanish clubs do have a DOF or a new role of technical supervisor..basically the same position.

  • 35 JackButler // Oct 29, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    1 – No top class manager would manage under Ashley as we are now, true. But that’s not completely Ashley’s fault.

    Then who’s fault is it??? Those damn footballing pixies again???

    come on man get a grip and open you bloody eye’s, you are defending a man that has ruined our club and continues to make a mockery of us…………….You are trying to defend something that is obvious to almost everyone

  • 36 Ian Toon // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Mr Tuff- I apologise for not getting back to you sooner.

    Thank you for explaining how you feel about the situation a fan of our football club is faced with. You really covered the whole sorry state and pain being experienced by so many.

    It certainly could be seen as soul destroying for the fans of a club that is light on achievements but big on ambition. Fans don’t concern themselves with balanced books and financial surpluses. That was not the glory that Danny Blanchflower and Sir Bobby spoke and wrote about. It wasn’t the joy and satisfaction experienced in having to choose a players name from so many to have on my football shirt and watch them excel at SJP as an impressionable fan growing up in the newly formed PL era.

    Unlike you I did not witness those 3 FA cup victories in the 1950′s or the Fairs cup victory in 1969 but I do recall the halcyon days of Keegan/Hall and Shepherd/ Robson. Those PL battles with Man Utd and qualifying for the Champions League on three occasions which was more than any other team apart from the then big four of Arsenal, ManU, Chelsea and Liverpool. The mass singing at SJP of tell your ma and pa we won’t be home for tea were off to Italy. Those European nights were body tingling raucous exciting times. From that to finishing in the top half.

    Turning to the banning of the regional press. I believe in a free press.
    I don’t see it as the role of a local newspaper to act as an extension of the public relations operation of a football club. Their role is not to put a spin on what is happening or to conceal criticism of the club. I do see
    it however as the role of the local paper to scrutinise the football club’s affairs. I have passed my thinking on as you requested.

    When it comes to the press and our football club surely an astute business man would appreciate that they need each other in order to generate revenue from football. Noticeably, in many regions
    as a football club reaches the lofty heights the interest from the national press increases and the dominance of the regional press diminishes. As such their football marketing is enhanced.

    This latter point should be borne in mind because as well as targeting
    SD, the national press and investigative journalism into Ashley”s business affairs would be far more productive than a march which the majority did not fully appreciate what the purpose was in my opinion.

  • 37 southern.geordie // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Agree with ToonKK 11. With the current owner, we will just be making up the numbers in the PL At least most match days in the championship end in a smile! We won’t commit to cup competitions as it could potentially cost a place in the over financed PL. A huge slice, or indeed several slices of good fortune would be required for a cup to be won. I would take a cup and relegation any day. I suspect MyCash ley would not.

  • 38 toonfin // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Can someone answer this question for me please? Why at the fan club meeting did the spokesman /woman say we weren’t interested in the cups yet last night I heard a radio advert stating just how great it would be to see the capital one cup in our trophy cabinet followed by tickets are now on general sale. How thick do they think we are? On one hand they don’t care however when it comes to getting OUR money they talk up their chances of winning the cup. Slowly I am losing my patience and I for one will not be spending one more penny whilst this money hungry, no ambition of an owner stays in charge.

  • 39 tequilamag // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    The club has overeaected to the Chronicle but I can see why they are hacked off. A 16 page spread for a few hundred marchers was a bit over the top. The Chronicle has been feeding off the teat of Newcastle United for donkeys years to sell their paper and this is a case of biting the hand that feeds it. I always felt the Chron was a pretty poor paper who never let facts get in the way of a story to sell a few copies.

  • 40 catchy in norway // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    wolfs

    are you mad,,

    DOF real Madrid, zidan
    DOF PSG Leonardo
    DOF benfica Rui Costa

    its still a good position to have and many top clubs have them

    can I just add to the argument about top managers not wanting to come
    no one is asking for a top one, nor are we asking to break records signing players

    what most of us want is a young up and coming manager, that has already shown with other club/clubs that he can manage a team and get results, someone that can see where its going wrong and try to stop it,

    right now we have a man who is content not to loose, who when things go wrong, does not know how to change it,

    I honestly believe that there are hundreds of good hungry managers out there in Europe or around the world that would love to manage NUFC, mainly because we are a premiership team, not many of them would even know who we are, would have no clue who our owners, but the chance for them to manage a team that plays against man u man c chelsae ars fool, that’s the draw to our club
    make a name form themselfs

  • 41 naptoon // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Simply marveux / Kieran
    Thought I was seeing things on the previous article you were talking sense :-)
    Tds
    New I wasn’t when I seen yours …. Get your head out Ashley’s ass and get with the program … You’re a plant no doubt whatsoever about it you’re on every single article all day … How do you have time do you work … If you don’t get on to Wendy she’s got a job for you she’s in the office next door ;-)

  • 42 BandB // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Tequilmag,

    It wasn’t a sixteen page spread. This keeps being repeated. It was sixteen pages over all three papers over several weeks. Far, far less than the acres of spoon-fed drivel they lap up from the club every week.

  • 43 JackButler // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-says-newcastle-united-6252292

    All aboard

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    Ian Toon – thanks for replying – I started going to SJP in 1965 – if my memory serves me correctly. I did not see the 50′s cup wins – on account of being a toddler. I did attend all the Fairs Cup games though including our win against Ujpest Doza.
    To current matters – the Toon have made a massive mistake in banning the papers and by their idiocy have created more coverage of the march – which is what they complained about in the first place. This is amateur PR at it’s most incompetent best.
    Usually when you take on the press -you take them all on -slightly different perhaps with the football press. Will the other reporters (from other titles) have their first question to Percy along the lines of “why did NUFC ban the Chronicle” – great if they do but I suspect they may not. They may not want to lose their privileges at the club – therefore putting self interest ahead of the greater public interest. But we’ll see what transpires.
    I was just re-reading Kinnears’ supposed financial piece from the programme. Expecting us to believe it was penned by him is a step too far and yet another serving of guff they expect us to believe. The regime are an unpleasant deceptive bunch that we really need not to be associated with.

  • 45 wolfshead@toon // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    tds

    isnt abramovic in the billionaires club same as ashley he bought chelsea as a rich mans toy to have some fun and he spent his money to get success as you would crave to if you have that kind of cash assley is just an acquisitive scrooge who has no joy or ambition regarding football he is queer one for certain

  • 46 Jail for Ashley // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    TDsarf,
    You bring up the subject of Mike Ashley loaning the club money if he gets us relegated but it’s a tired old argument when I state why this is wrong.

  • 47 BandB // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    If those bright folks at the Chron really don’t want to miss a trick, the should write “Sports Direct Owner Ashley” into their headlines.
    That way they would show up on all those millions of Google searches for Sports Direct.
    The fanzine editors and bloggers could get lots of lovely free hits for their articles that way too.

  • 48 cyprus // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    DOF fetish lol.

    As always, we’ll need two goals to win any of the forthcoming games.
    HBA will be key: he plays well, we win. He doesn’t we lose. On same subject, give Marveaux a chance (ie. a FULL game) in at least one of those 3 games.

    On tactics: maybe we can’t pass our way to victory here, we’re not exactly a tiki-taka outfit (just tiki). So, in the next couple games, a little bit of hoof ball perhaps? Everton did it to us, so did Sunderland. When it works it’s so tactically astute, catching the opposition unawares :)

  • 49 belgrade fan // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    JackB
    Every AP statement has same translation- I need to say what MA write to me otherwise I ll lose my job which I know I dont deserve cos Im championship manager the best
    toonfin
    You answered to your own question. Money is only important thing. I just want to see what our manager will say when City kill us 2morrow. What than will be excuse and new goal in this season. Cos there is no chance us to win FA cup

  • 50 tequilamag // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    BandB regardless whether it was over a few days or not the march was a damp squib,poorly attended and populated by people too stupid to see the irony of wearing tops with Wonga all over them. People are lionising hacks like Lee Ryder who was the biggest apologist for Newcastle over Wonga and made an idiot of himself on Talksport defending the decision. Perhaps if the Chronicle had not enjoyed such a mutually beneficial relationship with Newcastle to sell their rag in the past and had exercised a little more independence they would not have been banned from interviews.

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Oct 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    bandb

    that’s true but it just gets even more press for sports direct…and all press is good press they say

    unless it’s genuinely hard hitting, which this isn’t

  • 52 banjax // Oct 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    About who the Toon have fit for Man City – it won’t make any difference !




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