We Didn’t Deserve That – We Should Have Done Better

Alan Pardew is in  the results business at Newcastle, as every football manager is, and his success or failure ultimately depends on the results he produces on the field of play for Newcastle.

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Alan Pardew – in a results based job

And it’s not whether we play well in one particular game and should have won, as Alan has said about the game at Sunderland on Sunday, but it’s what the results are, and it may be a little bit brutal, but that’s all that matters in football management.

This is a little of what Alan Pardew said after the disastrous defeat to Sunderland on Sunday, with the emphasis on disastrous:

“We should have done better for Fletcher’s goal.” “They got a fast start. They got a goal early.”

“It was all the makings of a difficult afternoon, but we turned it around.” “That was good character from the team, but the goal was a killer.”

“We didn’t deserve that.”

Football is tough and life is tough, and sometimes you don’t get what you deserve – so what’s new?

Alan Pardew will have been reminded that Newcastle need to get results this season, since our squad is good and so much better than Sunderland’s.

And while it helps that we play well – which we did in the two games prior to the Sunderland debacle – Alan must start getting some wins.

It’s a brutal job is football management, so we are hoping the lads can recover in the upcoming games against Manchester City, Chelsea and Tottenham, but even three wins in those games will not cover up the extreme embarrassment and anger felt by Newcastle fans after Sunday’s awful result.

We allowed another poor Sunderland side to beat us for the second time in a row, and that was the first time we’ve had two successive derby defeats since 1967, when I was a young 50 year-old. 😀

Some games are a lot more important than others, and the results of the two Sunderland games often decide whether it’s been a good or bad season in the eyes of Newcastle fans.

That’s just the way it is.

17 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #1

    how were we the better team? we both created nothing and we had marginally better position…the only difference was their strike from distance was more accurate than ours.

    very even game, hardly like we peppered them and their keeper kept them in it and we got robbed.

  • NUFC_Harvey

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #2

    It’s awful timing with City and Chelsea being the next 2 games…

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #3

    For all those that would like the Chronicle to highlight the pettiness of this ban a little e mail from a few people wouldn’t do any harm
    darren .thwaites @ trinitymirror.com
    kevin. dinsdale @ ncjmedia.co.uk
    If you cant march take five minutes to send an e mail, ignore the spaces inbetween address, it’s to stop the comments getting automatically moderated.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #4

    Such a shame, if we had of beat the mackems there would have been a real good feel factor going into the next set of games, is it knowing Europe’s a hinderance that’s stopping us beating clubs like Hull and the mackems, surely Pardew can’t be telling the players we don’t want EL.

  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #5

    I don’t understand some people defending the ban.

    The paper has ran a very very large amount of positive stories on the club over the years and supported ashley.

    This was a big even before the game, something fan groups in the city organised and therefore should have been reported on. Yes there was a lot of coverage but there was a lot to cover.

  • Ciaran

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #6

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #7

    We had more of the ball, but sunderland looked the more likely to score, we created very little!
    Finding that our better players from last season are letting us down this year! Ben Arfa, Santon and sissoko have been pretty awful! HBA got a couple goals but even in those games his performances weren’t great!
    Impressed with Remy but just got a sneaky feeling next season hel be at arsenal or spurs!
    Cisse has looked a waste of time! Whether off the bench or starting!
    Seems to me like Pards has no clue how to use players like anita and marveaux! Think its time to play players that fit a style and formation! Would like to see a 4-3-1-2 played of Krul, Debuchy, MYM, Willo, Dummet, tiote, cabaye, Anita, marveaux, Remy and Gouffran! Anita and marveaux are much more dynamic! If we play a short passing game they look great! Its when we bypass the midfield that thry look anonymous

  • Colo-Sus

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #8

    Why bother getting angry or upset anymore…

    ED you can write these types of articles until you are blue in the face…it will change/reach nobody with any say in the club.

    We the fans have no power and no say in how things are run at Newcastle.

    Alot gets said on here and on twitter and on radio shows etc…but very little actually gets done…

    300-1000 whatever it was people turned up at the march, (it was certainly closer to 1000- I was one of them)

    That isnt enough to make a statement, only enough for our owner to brush it off as a minority of troubke makers.

    there is one way and one way only to appeal to ASHLEY….HIS POCKET,

    In my view evryone on here that moans, twists and cries on about Nufc need to put up or shut up….


    it is THE ONLY way anything will change

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #9

    There are so many anti Ashley posts on here lately, if everyone could take 3-5 minutes to send a short e mail to the above addresses, we could get time4change some good publicity and a lot more at the next march.

  • Rotonda heights

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #10


    From an earlier thread you’re kind of contradicting yourself saying you would rather keep Pardew than Ashley and then you mention all our good players who won’t want to stay!

    Amazingly in spite of everything we have assembled a good squad.


    On paper we were a country mile ahead of a team rooted to the bottom of the table with a solitary point for a quarter of the season !!

    Of course we were the better team but it’s not about on paper. We have a truly s..t manger and the tragedy is we haven’t had a squad this good for years.

    It’s amazing how Pardew supporters always talk like it’s a one off match after nearly every game now. We came 16th and we are currently 3 points off the bottom 3!!

    Pardew has successfully managed to deflect an awful lot of blame but imagine this same pool of players with a proper manager. Yet some people would still prefer Pardew over the likes of Martinez and Poyet etc who when given the same or equal to resources, excel and play cracking football..

  • catchy in norway

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #11


    he dosnt see anything wrong with how we set up , he thinks possession is key to winning games,he has been spoilt by having to many good players that can win games on there own

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #12

    It’s a worrying situation when these players who wanted out during the summer know there was a fire sale last time we went down, we couldn’t offload the top earners last time, a whole host of clubs could match their wages this time round, the only saving grace is that there is a World cup to play for.

  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #13


    Exactly. I was willing to give him time to turn things around, as there were some positives but these haven’t developed at all, nowhere near as much as I thought we would.

    I think we just haven’t developed, if you have all ball players like we do, then of course they can keep the ball better but it’s no good keeping the ball if you can’t work it effectively in the final third.

    I’ve said loads this season but there is no link up play between players, no combinations, nothing at all develops offensively or defensively, too many indivduals not working together and thats the managers job to get right.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #14

    Who are these Pardew supporters you mention, I’ve said this before to you, I don’t think anybody wants him here but with Ashleys track record who would replace him, JfK or Tony Pullis, there can’t be to many unempoyed manager of the year left out there, George Burley if you can catch him sober.

  • geordiemark

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #15

    pardew should have the balls just to resign his post, he must be runing out of excuses, we the fans have had enough of him and joke kinnear and mikey ashley and to top it all off ashley has banned the local papers from reporting on the team never have i seen anything like this at any other football club not just country wide but world wide, I sence mr ashley is cracking lads 🙂

  • geordiemark

    Oct 29, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #16

    me and my mate were watching the match and I told him at 1-1 pardew would hold out for a draw and he did thats what he wanted so he thought id shut up shop, mr pardew the way to defend is by attacking you moronic a££ehole, am not overly happy with ben arfa, sossisko,krul and cissie for starters id transfer list the 4 of them and really can anyone blame cabaye wanting to move away because i dont, any player with talent wont want to play under pardew

  • lesh

    Oct 29, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #17

    Now then, correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t tactics and team selection normally based on assessments of the opposition?

    Now I wonder who attended the Swansea Sunderland game and presumably brought a meticulous assessment of Sunderland for consideration prior to the game on Sunday?

    I wonder if our expert on everything (that’s Kinnear if you didn’t know) would have shared his wisdom to Pardew?

    Pardew would have been silly to have done anything other than field a team and apply tactics based on Kinnear’s assessment report and of course his wisdom gained after years in football ar the highest level.


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