We’ve Got Great Faith In Him – He’s Such An Honest Player


Papiss Cisse has scored just one goal this season, and he seems to lack confidence and when he gets chances, that lack of confidence shows through and he usually misses, and that’s what happened at least twice last night in the Capital One Cup against Manchester City.

papiss cisse after scoring man united

We want to see more of this from Papiss Cisse

Of course all strikers go though barren stretches and it happened to the great strikers like Alan Shearer, who had barren spells of his own during his fantastic goal scoring career.

Alan Pardew is considered a very good coach for strikers, and he had this to say about Papiss and his plight at the moment:

“Torres has worked hard in training, trying to find form. Sometimes when you search for it, you don’t look your best. You try too hard or try to score from angles that aren’t on – fail to take opportunities.”

“I think Papiss is fighting that at the moment. He needs to find way back to true form.”  “When he scores, we look a great side.”  “We’ve got great faith in him – he’s such an honest player and he works hard.”

“Sometimes it just needs to fall into place, a game or a goal can kick-start that.”  “The thing about Papiss is, he generates love. Everybody I speak to is desperate for him to get that break and I think that’s what you need.”

“As a striker sometimes you just need that break. I think that’s what he’s searching for at the moment.”  “His effort is good. He’s not sulking, he’s not doing anything in the team to disrupt in terms of stopping making runs. He’s doing everything we want.”

“We’ve got to try to work with him and encourage him, and hopefully give him an opportunity to get a goal.”

What Papiss needs is to get a chance that he doesn’t even think about,  and the ball in the back of the net by instinct, and any goal from the Senegal man can start to bring back his confidence.

And of course, as Alan says, when Papiss does score those goals, Newcastle look a much better side, and if we are going to get a result against Chelsea on Saturday afternoon, in the early game, we’ll need both Papiss Cisse and Loic Remy able to take whatever chances we get and turn them into goals.

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75 comments so far

  • Graeme

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #1

    Cisse didnt become a class act by chance, overnight and he didnt become a useless striker either. Form is temporary, class is permanant and all that.

    Cisse is lacking something and its obvious that Pardew, who is in charge of defensive coaching, hasn’t got a clue where the problem is. Cisse would be better of talking to Shearer or Ba to try and get his form back – NUFC coaches have failed to provide the answers despite months of trying.

    The problem isnt with Cisse – In my opinion, obviously.

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  • jimiley

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #2

    Cisse can become the new Shola

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #3

    I think Papisse out of form is having a really big impact on us. Essentially no contribution from the player we have invested so heavily in, not just in terms of money, but also as our only legitimate first choice central striking option. I think we need to persevere with him, not because his form warrants it, but simply that unless he turns his form around, we will still lack goal threat and that won’t change, however, if he can start hitting the back of the net we all of a sudden look really dangerous. You can’t get away with a lack of real depth in the spine of the team, it would appear.

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  • K T Cat

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #4

    He looks like he’s overthinking everything. He seems hesitant and almost passive.

    On the team in general, they look like they’re living down to the owner’s expectations. He doesn’t want to win, so why bother? I’m sure they wouldn’t say that out loud, but the lack of ambition on his part has got to be a morale killer for the team.

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  • jimiley

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #5

    You cannot persevere with a striker who contributes nowt and scores no goals. playing with 10 men. Who else would play a striker who cannot score?

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  • Graeme

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #6

    K T Cat – exactly. When the stated objective is mediocrity, it permeates through every aspect of the club. The players know there is no ambition to achieve anything – mentally they gear up to achieve exactly that – Nothing whatsoever.

    So sad, so avoidable, so NOT Newcastle United.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #7

    Well, if you do drop him, you’re consigning yourself to a strike force that hasn’t got enough goals in them period, even when playing well.

    I guess we really do need another central striking option along with him. Remy is excellent but he is not the prolific central striker we need and then we are left with Gouffran and Benny either side or interchanging as a front 3, good players but not enough goals between them, for a side that aspires to be top half.

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  • NewcastleMole

    Oct 31, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #8

    All Pardew’s recent comment have the same theme. He’s waiting for something to Kick Start out season. Im sorry but that attitude is quite shocking.

    He won’t do the honorable thing of quitting because he wants the pay off.

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  • Graeme

    Nov 1, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #9

    Jimmy, surely we can create a potent strike force out of Remy, Cisse, Gouffran, Sissoko, Ben10, Bambi (no, really lol). If we cant, we are in serious trouble.

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  • jimmysmith

    Nov 1, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #10

    I think we have an extremely potent strike force as long as Cisse is scoring. If he isn’t we are significantly short of the goals we need, as we concede so many. Still have a flawed and unbalanced squad, in my opinion, and have done for donkeys now.

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  • jimmysmith

    Nov 1, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #11

    Yeah Graeme, it’s hard to know why he’s out of form. Could easily be a coaching issue, ie Shearer under Gullit.

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  • beddersmag

    Nov 1, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #12

    But jimmy pardew was coaching him when he was on fire. Can we not try and pin everything on Pardew. Hes obviously a confidence player and after a terrible run that is simply shot. Then again even when hes confident he doesnt seem to be the best imo. He can be a great finisher but not sure he gives enough all round for me and sometimes looks amateur.

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  • beddersmag

    Nov 1, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #13

    Sorry jimmy not saying you are pinning it on pards just always seems to be the way on here. Sometimes its just players not being in form

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #14

    The problem is not with management.

    It is down to inconsistency with individual performances. They are up and down consistently. The squad is small when injuries occur and lacking quality all over the pitch due to not building sufficiently over the last how many years.

    I’v been dreading these injuries occuring and was hoping they wouldn’t all come at a time which would leave us bare. To be honest though, im not witnessing poor football, I can see an improvement on last yr.

    Williamson has done ok.
    Dummett has done ok.
    Tiote is getting back to his best.
    Cabaye is looking better.
    Shola is looking ok.
    Debuchy is looking better.
    Gouffran has been great.
    Remy has been excellent.

    My worries are Mbwia, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Santon and Cisse. They need to work on there consistency, not so much Cisse because once he gets a couple he will thrive like all forwards do. Every forward goes through a spell like he is having. The rest though have been up and down for the better part of the season so far.

    The morale at the club must be difficult for the players I agree with some of the previous posts. If you have a board who dosn’t have any ambition for the club then that leaves you with very little incentives.

    With it being a world cup year though and with us being a stepping stone club we will get that extra effort im sure this season from certain individuals.

    All in all though, the football is not bad and we have did well against far superior opposition recently, taking away the disgraceful game against the Makums.

    If we can get everyone giving it 100% and pulling in the same direction with the consistency we should be OK to finish mid-table.

    Not glorious, but this is what our shambles of an owner seems content with.

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  • Graeme

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #15

    Shearer, under Gullit was just as bad as it gets! Our coaches just dont seem to have what it takes to sort the problems!! Cisse is working under a defensive minded Manager – cover your arse first.

    Cisse needs looking after – I would wager £5000 that SBR would have Cisse banging them in like he was 12 – 18 months ago, when he got “goal of the season” Its simply a completely different mind-set.

    Bring on some proper coaches, seems to be the answer!!!!

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #16

    mmmm same manager as when he was free scoring course he had ba to spoon feed him then tho

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  • t00ntime

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #17

    Since the season we finished 5th we have conceded less shots on target, yet we concede more goals
    We have created more chances and had more shots on target, yet score less goals
    And the long ball has decreased.
    (on avg per game last season, and on avg per game this season that is)
    What this tells me is that our keeper isnt as confident and our striker is less deadly.

    Cisse is definitely less deadly. He keeps shooting straight at the keeper and hopes it bounces in. He needs someone to teach him about placement over power. Like vs city, the keeper came out early and that made it difficuilt but it never looked like he thought about placement. He just shot it straight at the keeper. He does it with headers too. I think if someone teaches him placement he will be alot better. Also think in the first half Cisses movement was nice, he worked well with Shola. Too bad his finishing was bad.

    On Krul. I really like him but atm his decision making is awful. Yes the defense leave him open alot but according to the stats they did that even more the season we finished 5th but Krul was on fire. Was he lucky and actually a bang average keeper, or is there something worrying him? or is it just a case of they’re getting better chances now?
    I think its a mix of better chances and something worrying Krul (maybe just nervous or something after all the injuries)

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  • t00ntime

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #18

    @toonprodigy I agree but I’d add cabaye to the list. Some games he has done well but others he has done nothing all game.
    Maybe even Remy too. great some games, does nothing others :S

    Stats prove AP is actually improving our play which is always nice to see. (unknowing how long he’ll still be here like). If we had signed a LW/ST in the summer I think we’d be alot better off. Alot of games I think all we needed was a good ST upfront and we’d have won. Especially if he was in a suarez/hba mould as in he can create his own stuff out of nothing. (too bad hba just doesnt seem capable of playing as a false 9)

    Another problem is when a few of our players are having a bad game, we cant create any good chances, lots of shots from outside the box but no good passes/crosses into the box. Thats why I think Cisse struggles even more. you see it if 2 or 3 of Cabaye/hba/remy/sissoko are having a bad game. amount of good chances becomes really low.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #19

    last time cisse scored in the prem he was wearing a virgin money logo thats more than a bad spell lol

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Nov 1, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #20

    Toontime,

    Im trying to go off last season and compare to what we have witnessed so far this season, in regards to Cabaye he was pretty poor last season when available. I do genuinely believe we are on the up, there is improvement there to be seen. We are seeing better form from players its just that inconsistency.

    There are too many players having off games at the same time.

    Yeah your right, if we had of built the squad further, we would have more options to change games, added some much needed depth to the wings and forward line.

    I am quite happy with the effort of the lads who have came in so far though. Williamson, Dummett and even Shola have looked OK. Nothing spectacular but OK.

    Still though, it’s a results business and if we don’t start getting them Pardew will go. Regardless of Mike and Joe’s incompetence in the Summer. Pardew will take the flak as usual not those two.

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  • Whoarya.com

    Nov 1, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    Comment #21

    Cisse will be fine once the dam bursts

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  • Sav

    Nov 1, 2013 at 3:41 AM

    Comment #22

    Remy delivers best when on left to Papiss in the central role. |That is no coincidence. Cisse will come good while Remy takes a bit of pressure off him in terms of goals and defenders’ attentions, just like Ba, except Remy can get goals from wide positions whereas Ba struggled. They will click if we stick with it. Even now after a long drought, Cisse’s stats for us are still impressive.

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  • Jamseyd24

    Nov 1, 2013 at 4:21 AM

    Comment #23

    The problem is not just with Cisse, I watch alot of football and is clear to me and I am no expert that its out dull boring style of play. We never seem to score from a cross anymore. We need wingers who can cross. We can get away with Benny on the right side cutting in but on the left side we are dreadful. We need a new ROBERT!!

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  • Ciaran

    Nov 1, 2013 at 4:37 AM

    Comment #24

    M.H

    You’re an idiot, plain and simple.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 1, 2013 at 5:31 AM

    Comment #25

    Morning guys!

    maybe the problem is the way we setup our 4-3-3 and not so much the players; have you ever thought about that?

    We are playing it very stif and conservative at times and we are more concerned about tracking back than getting into an advanced position where we are dangerous!

    We shouldd be much more concerned about creating more space for each other and telling our players to move into that space. Where are the triangle, the pass and movement.

    The worse thing about the way we play is that when ever we go forward there are not enough in the box because we were too concerned about everyone tracking back.

    This has actually been the point that has divided the blog as well – this is where we all really disagree!

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  • 89Norcal

    Nov 1, 2013 at 5:53 AM

    Comment #26

    How the hell do we solve Cisse’s problem? Truth be told some players are better at overcoming adversity than others. Cisse is pretty much a full blown defeatist right now. Cynical, hesitant, and an air of desperation.

    I feel part of it is our play doesn’t seem centered around him, but more suited to getting the wingers in scoring positions – since both of them (Remy n Hatem) are our best players.

    Meanwhile Cisse is left to be a target man or to hold up play, when his main strength is neither of those. His movement off the ball seems poor as well once Remy and Hatem cut in.

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  • 89Norcal

    Nov 1, 2013 at 5:55 AM

    Comment #27

    @jesper

    I noticed that too. Far too often have I seen Debuchy or Hatem sprint upfield only to have no one to cross to. We were a little better about getting numbers forward in the City game though but only on a few chances.

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  • JAMSHA

    Nov 1, 2013 at 6:36 AM

    Comment #28

    so now cisse is pardews new BF

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 1, 2013 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #29

    sadly we are a bad side

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 1, 2013 at 6:43 AM

    Comment #30

    whether by players, coaching staff ,management or owner

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  • Marty-Toon

    Nov 1, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    Comment #31

    Cussed is quality,problem is no one has told him bout the offside rule.

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  • cyprus

    Nov 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    Comment #32

    That regular offside rule comment is plain unfair. Last year he got a few goals that were cancelled because the linesmen DIDN’T KNOW the offside rule. That’s what you get when you play off the shoulder, dude. Like we should know, all CF’s go through barren spells. Don’t know what the deal is with this guy: the Wonga thing? Ramadan? Complete loss of confidence? Wrong style of play?

    I feel sorry for the guy, but mainly my team. We now have ZERO regular goal scorers. Remy is our only chance, and he was our worse player in the last two games he played. The fact that many are wanting Shola on, a consistent 0 goals culprit, is a concern.

    btw. what has happened to Remy’s and HBA’s ex-frightening sprint bursts? Carrying injuries? Have been told by our wondrous performance guru to cut them out as THEY bring on injuries?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 1, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    Comment #33

    Cyprus
    I think Remy is carrying a injury – taken off at the Mackems and was on the bench against Shitty but not used.

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  • stuart no9

    Nov 1, 2013 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #34

    right be honest- cisse is a CF that cant score goals, 1 goal this season is totally shocking.
    Lack of service?? not really, apart from actually putting the ball in the net for him on wednesday, what kind of service does he want .
    Offside. that is not down to bad service or confidence , that is purely unawareness- lazyness, amatureish , whatever you want to call it, something he has done since he arrived here. Nile ranger got slaughtered for his lack of goals , why is he any different ???. He gets paid for scoring goals, if he is not doing his job drop him , better still sell him .
    It is not just this season , but last season as well .Yeah CFs have these spells , but not for this long. CFs get caught offside – not as much as him . he learns nothing .How long do we put up with him ??? yeah he may get the odd tap in or a rebound off his arse , so what ? most players get one sometime. We lost the game on wed because of him . That game should have been finished in 90 mins . I have no sympathy for him – not on 30 or 40 grand a week

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 1, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    Comment #35

    If anyone has half an hour take a look at

    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

    on teams spending over the last five years to try and win the Premiership get into the Champions League or avoid relegation

    The “per season” column is the “Nett” total divided by the 5 giving an average of the money spent in transfer fees by each premiership club each season in the last five Seasons.

    # Net Spend last 5 Years Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

    1 Man City £640,650,000 £163,700,000 £476,950,000 £95,390,000
    2 Chelsea £390,000,000 £100,100,000 £289,900,000 £57,980,000
    3 Man United £229,750,000 £128,800,000 £100,950,000 £20,190,000
    4 Stoke City £99,825,000 £8,650,000 £91,175,000 £18,235,000
    5 Ast Villa £179,600,000 £93,600,000 £86,000,000 £17,200,000
    6 Liverpool £304,450,000 £220,550,000 £83,900,000 £16,780,000
    7 Southamp £75,350,000 £14,600,000 £60,750,000 £12,150,000
    8 Sunderl £153,630,000 £103,700,000 £49,930,000 £9,986,000
    9 Hull City £41,525,000 £8,250,000 £33,275,000 £6,655,000
    10 West Ham £81,850,000 £54,800,000 £27,050,000 £5,410,000
    11 West Brom A £50,745,000 £28,810,000 £21,935,000 £4,387,000
    12 Norwich City £22,750,000 £1,100,000 £21,650,000 £4,330,000
    15 Swansea £48,455,000 £29,860,000 £18,595,000 £3,719,000
    14 Cardiff City £29,695,000 £12,925,000 £16,770,000 £3,354,000
    15 Fulham £50,580,000 £39,700,000 £10,880,000 £2,176,000
    16 Crystal Pal £18,800,000 £9,750,000 £9,050,000 £1,810,000
    17 Tottenham £310,900,000 £306,300,000 £4,600,000 £920,000
    18 Arsenal £188,200,000 £192,400,000 -£4,200,000 -£840,000
    19 Everton £63,500,500 £75,816,000 -£12,315,500 -£2,463,100
    20 Newcastle £93,150,000 £118,150,000 -£25,000,000 -£5,000,000

    Interesting reading: that spending a fortune does not mean a top six finish.
    also as the spuds – sell your prime asset can make a huge difference in profit loss spend

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  • Klatoon

    Nov 1, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #36

    Im more worried about Sissoko…

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  • stuart no9

    Nov 1, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #37

    Klatoon —-/ @36. Yeah , he’s another one . A blistering debut against Chelsea , then nothing , however I blame pardew for his downfall .

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 1, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    Comment #38

    Hi All,

    I think Pards is to blame, Cisse was on fire when he joined (played well for Freiburg) full of confidence. Played up top in what was an attacking team, the following season Demba Ba spat his dummy out, he wanted to play up top so Cisse got pushed out on to the wing. Confidence shot because the manager didn’t have the kahunas to say to Demba sorry but Cisse is my first choice. Demba leaves us and we are stuck with someone who is out of form and probs pretty annoyed with the management of Newcastle for chucking him on the wing!!

    Last season I lost count of how many times we lumped it forward to Cisse (toward his head) that tells me the manager is not playing to the guys strengths!! Remy is better from out wide and can’t play up top on his own, we need a new manager who can get the best out of all the players……inconsistency is something you all bang on about, well probably because each player has his role/position changed within the team at least 3 or 4 times (manager can’t be consistent with formations or player positions but you blame the player) PARDS OUT!!

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  • cyprus

    Nov 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #39

    Is Remy injury prone? He seems to sit out many games. Same with Taylor, who should not be in the first 11 when fir in any case. Despite our regular 2 goal concession, I still think our primary concern is up front. Tricky, fast wingers who can cause disarray (it’s been a while since we had one of those), one quality CF. When did we last score 3?

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  • RONNIE147

    Nov 1, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #40

    It seems to me a lot of are players being off form is down to what coaching pardew gives them. When all are new signings sign they look good players, cisse scoring for fun, sissoko powering his way past Chelsea players to score, now look at them. Cisse not only doesn’t score but his movement that was there when he joined is gone n sissoko is no way near the player we signed. There’s other players too that have gone downhill once The Lying King gets his hands on them. For me Pardew needs to go he’s simply not good enough, a premiership manager NO, a yes man, puppet, excuse maker YES!

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