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Nothing Much Wrong With This Newcastle Player

9:53 am, Friday, November 1st, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 37 Comments

When Papiss Cisse first arrived on Tyneside almost two years ago he was scoring goals galore, 13 goals in his 14 appearances to be exact, and Demba Ba stopped scoring goals, and a similar situation is now in existence with new arrival Loic Remy scoring five goals in his first 7 appearances, and Papiss having only one goals so far this season.

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Papiss Cisse – only one goal this season – so far

But manager Alan Pardew doesn’t think Loic’s arrival is tied to Papiss’ loss of form, because Loic has been used on the left wing in a 4-3-3 formation with Cisse in the middle, when he plays.

This is what the Newcastle manager said about the situation:

“I don’t think there’s any correlation between Remy scoring and Papiss’ situation.” “Loic’s played a lot in that wide area and got goals.” “We know he can play through the middle which we’ve not given him many opportunities to do yet. I don’t think that affects Papiss too much.”

“Like all strikers you get envious when you see another player scoring because you want to score yourself. Maybe there’s a little bit of that in there but hopefully that will fire him up.”

When Cisse and Ba were playing together after Cisse arrived, Ba not scoring was directly linked with Cisse playing in the center, and Demba Ba was moved out to the left wing.

So in that case there was a correlation with a new striker coming in and an existing striker not scoring – but that’s not the case this time, as the manager points out.

Like most strikers when they are not scoring, Papiss is short of confidence, and when he gets a chance he tends to snap at it, or hesitate, and both reactions usually mean he misses the chance.

And as we have said before,  there’s not much wrong with Papiss that a couple go goals would not cure.

If Newcastle are going to do well in the league this season, and there’s an if there, we’ll need both Loic and Papiss scoring, and certainly in the last couple of games the chances Cisse has had he’s missed, and if he had scored they could have made all the difference.

But of course that’s always true, because as Bobby Robson used to always say, goals change games, and as usual Bobby was right about that.

Here’s hoping Cisse (and Remy) can get in amongst the goals against Chelsea tomorrow.

What do you think?

Comments always welcome.

Tags: Loic Remy · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Premier League

37 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Black and White with an army lol // Nov 1, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Cisse is an f**king poacher, how else is he suppose to improve when he sits up top doing nothing.

    we currently use under pardew a 4-4-2, 4-3-3 & 4-2-3-1 two of these Cisse is set as a lone striker, a poacher as a lone striker REALLY!

    4-4-2 would be better using an poacher simply because of his partner, but then again the 4-4-2 realise on creative or fast wingers ( by the way we have 1, Obertan) to get good balls to him but then again it won’t work.

    HBA – inside forward
    Remy – striker/inside forward
    Gouffran – advance forward – role would suit best with poacher.
    Marv – playmaker winger.

    Sammy – striker/inside forward.
    Obertan – winger.

    looking at our squad we all must see our 3 tactics are not made to suit our players and Pardew is doing old school style tactics and that’s putting players into the tactics instead of fitting the tactic around the players.

    1 tactic i could put ahead of any one of those 3 tactics and it would be successful and that’s a 4-3-1-2

    Debuchy, Colo, MYM, Santon
    Sissoko, Cabaye, Tiote
    Remy, Cisse

    with this style we can play to our full advantage, creativity through the middle is what our team has, wingbacks who could make width in our style with 2 CM as cover for the WB’s whilst they push up ( Anita would love this style )

    4-3-1-2 pro’s – this style has 3 phases of play –

    1 – fluid & rigid mixed together could cause a hell of a lot of problems for the opposition to guess how we play.

    2 – on attack it can be converted into a highly measure of pressure with 4-5 players on top of the opposition and cause them panic for easy goals against them.

    3 – defensively can easily convert to a 5-4-1 leading to quick counter attack and cause more panic to the opposition.

    4-3-1-2 con’s –

    only 1 and that’s soon we will be bored with winning 4,5,6 – 0 against most opponents and rarely concede.

    if any 1 would dispute this i would gladly except a challenge.

  • 2 fatman // Nov 1, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Simple he’s been Pardewed

  • 3 Our Toon // Nov 1, 2013 at 9:55 AM


    Spot on with noticing our lads holding onto the ball to long, playing on the shoulder means that the timing of the pass and run have to be perfectly timed… many times you see Cisse unhappy because that pass is delayed hence making him look stupid, how can we get it so wrong? how do his teammates not understand his game?


  • 4 Rainrix // Nov 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Alright I’ve had just about enough of everyone slagging off ashley. He is by far the best man we could have as an owner. He is an absolute paragon of physical vigour and business acumen. Even Joe kinnear is star struck by ashley, and he’s the man who punched a lion to death to save a wee african boy. Seriously just look at the man. Your instant thought should be “yep thats the guy i want running my football club”

  • 5 Tom4Nufc // Nov 1, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Apparently NUST has been banned by the club… It’s all going to pan!!!

  • 6 Tom4Nufc // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    This is the NUST statement;

    ‘As the only elected body representing fans, the board of Newcastle United Supporters Trust (NUST) welcomed the invitation to take up a permanent position on the Fans Forum organised by Newcastle United.

    The Trust looked forward to the chance to interact with club officials on behalf of our members, with the opportunity to ask pertinent questions and report back to the membership afterwards.

    The inaugural meeting of the Forum took place in September and little were we to suspect that the NUST permanent position would last only one night.

    The Trust made clear that we reserved the right to report back to our members as to what went on at the Fans Forum, the club confirming via their Fans Liaison Officer that they accepted this.

    Questions were duly asked (many supplied by our members following an online survey) at the Forum by the NUST representative, Peter Fanning, and a lively meeting produced many interesting topics of discussion.

    Two days later, NUST published Peter Fanning’s overview of the meeting and it attracted a lot of publicity, due mainly to the nature of the topics covered but also the fact the Newcastle United minutes didn’t appear until 24 hours after they’d been advertised to be released.

    When the club minutes did belatedly appear, nothing of substance that had been reported by NUST was contradicted in Newcastle United’s official feedback.

    However, the spirit of openness has dramatically ended and NUST have been informed by Newcastle United that their ‘permanent’ place at the Fans Forum has now been withdrawn, the only democratically elected organisation open to the whole of the NUFC fanbase, barred from attending the next meeting in December and all subsequent Fan Forums.

    So, in the same week that the Trust organised a successful conference on fan engagement at Newcastle University Business School, covered by the BBC and attended by delegates from all over the country, the club have barred the local press and the only elected fans’ body from interacting with Newcastle United.

    At the same time at a national level, the Government’s Culture Media and Sports Select Committee have recommended that football clubs develop meaningful and structured relationships with supporters.

    They say the first casualty of war is the truth. The fans and local media don’t want to be at war with our football club, we just want a well run Newcastle United that values all of its supporters and the integral part NUFC plays at the heart of the local community.’

  • 7 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Just went to check out Lawros predictions, usually worth a chuckle…

    Is predicting a loss “anti-Newcastle”?

    Or maybe that’s a positive anti-Newcastle comment as a loss keeps us away from an ambitious league position?

    Can they not just give us the Idiots guide to running a football club? Sorry, the Genius’ guide to running a football club.

    Right, off to go fill up my mug…clearly need more coffee, far too many mistakes today.

  • 8 Our Toon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM


    Cisse missed the chances on Wednesday no doubting that, before Wednesday though I think I can only count on 1 hand the amount of chances he’s had. I will agree with one thing though and that is the lack of creativity in our current style of play, we prefer hard working wide players and encourage our best creative player (Ben Arfa) that he has to do his fair share defensively otherwise he is dropped. We are a fickle bunch criticising the very likes of Benny, forget about stats for one second… many times when he has the ball does the opposition double up on him or have 3 around him, he creates space for others which can only be good for the team, our best player by far but still gets criticised because of lacking defensive duties, shocking!!

    Not surprised that NUST has been banned, they only entertained that notion to keep fans quiet, it worked though because there are still a lot of people on here who hate the way the club is run but will not do anything to change/fix it. Just like we can all see things aren’t right on the pitch and with the players but management can’t/won’t fix it (PRIDE) from management through to the 50k + that go to games is the reason why we are in this mess, Ashley knows we won’t turn our backs on the club so carries on taking liberties, we the paying public complain about the owner, manager, and the way the club is run but have too much pride to turn our backs!! You reap what you sow, that’s what my mate who supports Citeh said and he’s right!!

  • 9 OhSholaAmeobi // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Thought this would be about Sylvain Marveaux! He hasn’t been seen nor heard of in months and he doesn’t seem to be injured…

  • 10 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Rainrix…Good man! It’s important that you keep posting that picture, the fans need to see Ashleys “human” side…

  • 11 geordieboy83 // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Our toon

    It does mate I know from experience you look an idiot when the ball is delayed. You do your part and they fail you and you’re the one that gets abuse. Cabaye is the only forward thinking passer, although marveyx is capable.

    You’d like to think we would work on it but I’m not sure if pardinho is capable of seeing the missing pieces

  • 12 Rainrix // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Ibiza…. Well we can’t have everyone thinking he’s mostly a reptile now can we?

    I see you also had a visit by some strapping lads in some strapping sportswear as well, what a coincidence! Its almost like they just inspire faith in ashley!

  • 13 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Our toon and geordieboy…Do you not think Anita helps with ball distribution, along with Cabaye and Marv?

    Personally I think he pulls a lot of things together with quick and simple passes.

  • 14 geordiemark // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    maybe cissie is suffering like the rest of us are at the way newcastle united owner mike ashley is treating the supports,the local media and everybody else who does not agree with him, we all know he didnt want anything to do with wonga so I reckon its everything what is going on at st james whats effecting the players, ive read that ashley has now banned Newcastle United Supporters Trust (NUST) your only making things 10x worse then they were mr ashley silly man

  • 15 geordiemark // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

  • 16 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Rainrix…Never believe in coincidence mate!

    Who are these people that think Ashley is a reptile? David Icke?

  • 17 Graeme // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Good morning Ibiza, tried your link on the previous post but it goes nowhere – have NUFC now deleted it? or is it just my laptop playing silly sods lol

  • 18 Rainrix // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Ibiza…. That whole reptoid theory is obviously more slander by David Icke and he is now in the banned cavern with ryder and Douglas. Although if you watch ashley on a warm summer day you can see him catching flies. Infer what you will

  • 19 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Rainrix…What’s to infer? They’re cheap and high in protein. Honestly, if people just thought these things through.

    Grame..Looking back, the link was incomplete (apologies). Let’s try again.,,10278~3462657,00.html

  • 20 lesh // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Like a few others in the squad, I’m sure Cissie’s just pi$$ed of, disillusioned with uncertainty at the club.

    No real aim, no apparent ambition, no investment, politics and so it goes on.

    Ok, it’s fair to say he’s a professional and all the crap sound not affect him. Well, that’s the theory but unfortunately life and people don’t always follow the theory.

    Fans are pi$$d off and they’re not directly among all the goings on at the club. Imagine how the players must feel

  • 21 geordiemark // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    the evening chronicle should publish just the name on sheets to hand out to the supporters when there going into the ground tomorrow in protest to ashley and chuck them in his direction :) just an idea

  • 22 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Still incomplete. Might have to copy and paste the whole thing mate. Not sure why it’s not working.

    If not, it’s on the main website, under “fans”, then “fans forum”…you know, the forum that isn’t actually for fans at all.

  • 23 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    NUFC and Life are similar – Here today Banned Tomorrow.

  • 24 Rainrix // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Nice to see a bit of balance on cisse this morning. A lot of the criticisms of him are valid, but i feel people put them across in a bit of a condescending way towards the lad. I mean its not like he helped keep us up last season was it?

  • 25 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Alan Pardew is a Super hero – His Super power – He never gets TIRED of giving excuses.

  • 26 geordiemark // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    aye lesh the players will be effected alright they wont like the way there fans and other sets of people are being treated so harshley by ashley, the only time ive ever known the media got banned from st james was when lord westwood was the chairman he also was the chairman of the football league as well and jimmy hill had a right good go at us so westwood banned the bbc from st james

  • 27 Rainrix // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Ibiza…. Absolutely, thats the whole 3rd world food crisis sorted out there. Another brilliant humanitarian success from ashley!

  • 28 JackButler // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Pardew has stolen Cisse’s confidence and hidden it away with Sissoko’s form

  • 29 geordiemark // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:21 AM


    I do really think whats been going on has effected all the players the only person really it hasnt effected is that moron of a manger we have mr alan peanut brain pardew hes still coming out with stupid excuses and backing ashley to the hilt silly man be his turn soon :)

  • 30 Our Toon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:27 AM


    I think Anita does pull the strings in Mid along with Cabs, we need players that are comfortable on the ball and make quick passes. Shame we had to put him on at left back on Wednesday after the injuries!! Cost us the first goal with the little trick he tried (zabeleta pinched the ball) I think Gouffran is a better option off the bench rather than starting games!!

  • 31 Rainrix // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    geordiemark… Thats the “pardew” phenomena obviously. Targets the nervous system, obviously pardew isn’t affected as he lacks a spine :)

  • 32 Ibizatoon // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    OurToon…Agreed on Gouffran, but the lad is one hell of a grafter.

    Give Pardew another year with him and we’ll have our new Jonas! Hoorah the crowd roared!

  • 33 geordiemark // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    wouldnt it be brillint just to see a full stadium with the evening chronicle letters held up in front of ashley and co then crunshed up and chucked at him in his direction

  • 34 Scottiedog // Nov 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Sell Cisse in Jan and bring in Defoe!!!! at least he knows were the frigging goal is!!!!!!!!! Cisse looks he does not give a shit :-/

  • 35 fatman // Nov 1, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Himanshu Dhingra @25

    your spot on hears the proof

  • 36 fatman // Nov 1, 2013 at 11:10 AM

  • 37 lochinvar // Nov 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Anyone got time to plot on a graph what position Cisse was standing/arriving at when he scored his 14 goals ! Please send the results to Pardew do he can understand how to get the best out of his players.

    Why doesn’t the club emoy some tactical analysts and laptops – like what they do in Rugby Union – you can bet that the All Blacks don’t leave their tactics to chance !

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