Papiss Cisse has appeared in eleven games for Newcastle this season, but has only scored one goal against Leeds United in the Capital One Cup, and has not scored in the last fifteen Premier League games.
Papiss Cisse – goals famine
Of course all strikers go through barren spells and it happens to all strikers during their careers, and in the Mirror Loic Remy has come out supported his fellow striker:
“I think Papiss is a very good player. He showed a lot of qualities when he arrived and he scored a lot of good goals and a lot of important goals.”
“But without the struggle there is no success.” “Sometimes, when I was at Marseilles, I was the same – I went a long time without scoring.”
“It is frustrating for a forward to go through those patches, but I think he just needs one goal to start again and find his confidence.”
“It’s difficult when you are not scoring because you can maybe try to hard, but I know how he feels because I have been in that situation before.
“I’m not worried about Papiss, I think he just needs one goal and he will find his confidence again. He needs to get it as soon as possible for the team, but also for himself and then we will see the real Papiss again.”
On Saturday Shola Ameobi played up front with Loic Remy in a 4-4-2 formation, and both strikers put in a good shift, with Loic Remy scoring the sensational second goal for Newcastle just before the end of the game with Chelsea.
If we can get Papiss scoring goals again, we should be in good shape in terms of being able to put the ball in the back of the net.
And with the defense starting to look solid again, we could be in good shape in a couple of months.
That’s what we’re hoping for.
Comments welcome.
48 comments so far
Graeme
Nov 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM
Comment #1I hope he’s right – a player like Shearer could cope with a barren spell, he had the mental strength and self belief that he would score at any time. Papiss doesn’t seem to have that self belief, that arrogance of the true Top Striker.
Papiss is struggling mentally, its hurting him and the rest of his game is also suffering because of it. Hope for his sake he nets one PDQ!!
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM
Comment #2Although it think cisse has been improving slightly lately with regards to his hold up play, i still have little confidence in him. i think his lack of abilities as anything else than a goal poacher have been massively exposed in the last 18 months & now he can’t even score a goal from 8 yards out on top of that. I never thought i’d say this but i was actually happy when i seen shola start ahead of papis saturday gone. i think we should cash in on him ASAP as his value is falling with every. miss controled pass and every easy goal he misses. I’d say there’s a lot of fringe strikers out there better than him. i hate being so negative but i just have to get this off my chest peeps sorry.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Comment #3Now that the hat of liverpool has been thrown into the speculative cabaye ring (there’s a rude joke in there but i’ll ignore it =D) maybe we could get one of there 6 cb’s in part exchange. my choice would be agger but then fat ash wouldn’t get much change back and aggs wages will be high and he could get a start in most of europes top teams, waste of time mentioning him in retrospect haha, i would actually settle for coates. Thinking about it we could get sterling as our winger and or aspas as our forward he hasn’t set the prem on fire but he was awsome in pre season(sorry i got bored pre season & lfc tv is broadcast free on sky shoot me ; p)
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM
Comment #4On this whole Ashley out time for a change thing are people not just wasting there time protesting and what not? he’s to greedy to leave without making a profit and he also to stubborn to let protests scare him off look at his reaction banning local papers and and the body that nufc officially recognised as the authentic voice of the fans. This guys like one of those frickin dick’tators ala kim jong il or hitler or sumit just on minor scale. this guy couldn’t give a damn what anybody thinks about him or his way of doing things. the only way this psychopath is going is if he’s payed off on a grand scale or something bad happens to him heaven forbid haha.
Charlietoon
Nov 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM
Comment #5I remember when we got him one of the lads who supported his old team came on and said he didn’t want to see him go but he wasn’t that torn up. “He scores goals but he does not do very much else”. Thats fine when you are a forward that is scoring goals but now that he is not how little he brings to the team is clear. He should not need to be playing in a premier league game to get his touch back. That is what training is for.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 3:51 AM
Comment #6I can see him improving on his hold up & link up play but it must be a big struggle for coaches to train him as he probably thinks he’s an international striker and he knows everything about football already but the truth is has not learned the basics properly he can’t trap a ball or pass a ball in straight line and how the hell can he be caught offside so many times how?
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Nov 6, 2013 at 5:52 AM
Comment #7Well Leroi…tell that to the people of Germany or North Korea 😉
…I am pretty sure they don’t find it a waste of time fighting back? Leroi if you are not happy with what you are seeing then try and change it! No one else is going to do it for you.
If that is your attitude then you don’t really care and that is just sad 🙁
catchy in norway
Nov 6, 2013 at 6:14 AM
Comment #8how many golden nuggets are there out there , cisse don’t get chances to score,
iv been watching DS at Liverpool England’s best striker right now , I think he would struggle just like cisse , he has about 6 chances a game and scores one,
cisse gets one , if he is lucky
nufc have stopped all the long balls , stats show we are 2nd bottom of that table , both ba and cisse scored lots from there, also pardew has told cabaye to shoot more so he does , and so does the rest of the MF no one is looking to slip balls in for him
it’s sad that most of you don’t see this , cisse is good at what he does , he is a finisher
John Tudor
Nov 6, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Comment #9its known as taking his money and running
more than not ………offside
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM
Comment #10Cabaye is one of our best players, I wouldn’t let him go this season even for 20mil. If this season we are sh!t again then I will let him go even if it’s 10mil, I feel sorry for him if he is stuck with sh!t team.
In January, I hope we sign Remy permanently, sell Cisse get 1 new striker especially tall good in the air striker. Definitely new manager is needed, right now we are too inconsistent even against teams in relegation zone at home we are not sure we can win.
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 6:58 AM
Comment #11A tall good in the air striker is needed, even if we nolonger playing hoofball but there will be crosses made into the box, there will be corners and set pieces. With a tall striker, the team will improve the chance of converting one of those crosses into goals.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2013 at 6:58 AM
Comment #12Catchy,
Sturridge has had 35 shots in 10 starts scoring 8 goals.
Cisse has had 18 shots in 6 starts and has scored 0 goals. (both Prem league only)
Not too much difference in the number of chances per start, but a hell of a difference in the return. Not sure where you get 6 chances a games from for him.
Would you like us to start playing long balls again? That doesn’t marry well with your argument against Pards for style of play….
Cisse has a shocking chance conversion rate from the last 2 years, so much so that by looking at the statistics you would label finishing as being a weakness.
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 6:59 AM
Comment #13hopefully AC will be sold for less than 10mil
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:01 AM
Comment #14I do care about our team! I haven’t missed a match in years to be honest. i love newcastle more than anything. i just see what ashley is doing as message to us all that want him gone that he won’t go without a good pay off and he’s not going to run away because we tell him we don’t like him. I’m starting to worry that his next actions will be to buy no new players and sell good players like krul,cabaye and debuchy in January just to show all he’s in charge. whether he would of done this without the protests is a good question
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Comment #15I just watched Brad Pitt’s “Moneyball”, could it be Ashley doing the same thing?
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Comment #16Santon,
Remy has already said he will not be making a decision on his future until the summer. We just have to wait and see how that one pans out.
I’m not sure it would bother me about getting a tall striker, but someone with a physical presence that can play with his back to goal and hold up play is a must.
We don’t put enough quality crosses into the box, be it from open play or set plays, if we got an aerial centre forward we also need to improve our crossing. Only debuchy seems capable of putting in crosses at a consistent level.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:09 AM
Comment #17Leroi,
I don’t think Ashley will be selling players just to spite the fans for protesting. If a bid comes in that matches the figure he magically plucked from thin air to represent a players value, then they are gone.
The other alternative is if there is dissent against the regime from within the dressing room he will be gone. Cabaye has already made a veiled reference to issues above him with his Kinnear comment while on international duty. He s gone when the bids come in.
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:17 AM
Comment #18Lilo
Even if we did put good croses in, there’s nobody there that can win it. so far whenever we made crosses into the box about 90% only one player in the box. It is very difficult to make excellent cross(es) with only one to aim at and surrounded by 3 or 2 defenders. I know that we all hope every crosses are perfect crosses but it’s impossible, striker(s) also need good positioning too to win the ball. We only have shola and he can’t last full 90 minutes.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:22 AM
Comment #19Santon,
Most of them fly straight into the keepers arms, or canon of a defender at the near post. If we actually were able to put regular decent crosses in we may see more people try to get in the box, but when you continually see the crosses do that it makes players wonder why they should bust a gut to get in the box, when they will just have to bust a gut to get back as it fails.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Comment #20You know the only real cross i can think of us scoring from in recent history was cisse’s goal against leeds when dummett whipped it in on to his head with pin point precision. i did think remys header against hull was a cross for a second but it was cisse badly miss hit shot.
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Comment #21Lilo
I don’t know what you saw, but from what I saw they do make decent crosses sometimes but only one player there. They are delaying their crosses or reluctant to make crosses because nobody in the box and especially when HBA played there will be no crosses from him.
When they have the opporturnity to cross and then delayed due to noone in the box, that opporturnity is gone because it will be harder to make good crosses when 1 or 2 defender(s) marking you.
Well it’s kind of egg and chicken which one is first.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM
Comment #22Thinking about it not many goals have come from crosses from any team thid season have there?
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM
Comment #23I think when we have someone like AC, good crosses will come because he can make what we thought a bad cross into a good cross.
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:36 AM
Comment #24Leroi
A lot. Many goals are from header, headed goals = from crosses mostly.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:37 AM
Comment #25Lilo,
Band B made a fightening observation the other day, it looks like players whose agents weren’t as savvy as Demba Ba’s haven’t had release clauses inserted in to their contracts and have relied on gentlemens agreements to be allowed to go to CL clubs if they came in, unfortunately for them they hadn’t reckoned on Ashleys ridiculous valuations on them and are now stuck until the last years of their contracts, what Band B suggested was that relegation could be the only escape, I think it is a god send we have a WC at the end of this season and god forbid if France get knocked out by the Ukranians.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM
Comment #26How many games do you think it will be before remy gets 10 goals and do you think cisse or gouffran will reach 10 goals an all?
Jail for Ashley
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Comment #27Cisse had one of the biggest impacts in the PL, he was then forced out wide by a manager who was duped in to playing his partner in his favoured position, at first it was a loss of confidence and form, now he just doesnt want to be here.
cyprus
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Comment #28Graeme,
How do you know Shearer had the mental strength to cope with barren spells? That’s in retrospect mate, when the barren spells would end (often through pens). Btw, when was the last time we got a pen? I seem to remember HBA tucking one in and Cisse missing one…
I’d still give him the next penalty, despite the risk! This is a gem of a player on a serious self doubt trip. Hence we’re all doubting him and cleverly spotting his deficiencies. Will he come good? Well yes, if he scores 🙂
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Comment #29Jail
i think he wants to be here but he’s just not playing well and its not being hidden by him scoring goals either
bills-son
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Comment #30Jail,
So, you are slagging Ashley for not telling thick agents to insert release clauses into contracts and also for placing ridiculous valuations on players heads which will keep them at the club until the last year of their contract???
Is thst not EXACTLY what Ashley should be doing?
You are actually saying Ashley should give them release clauses and put realistic fees on their heads. Haway man.
cyprus
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Comment #31Ed,
You woke up pessimistic earlier? What was this?
“It’s all (and only) about money at Newcastle these days.
Now if we were a big club with ambition, we would say Yohan is simply not available, because he’s a cornerstone of our team, and we are trying to build a side to challenge for the top six and eventually get in the Champions League.”
It’s ONLY about money at NUFC? Aren’t you exaggerating just a little?
And if Cabs decided to refuse to play again, what would you do? Individual rights and all that? Would you keep him even if he wanted to leave? Dude, all players do have a price, in all teams. Cabaye wants out, his head has been turned. Don’t fall for him too much, it will hurt more 😉
Santon03
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:53 AM
Comment #32The cheapest solution for Ashley is to replace the manager keep the same team like Inter Milan.
Ricky Alvarez was crap under Stramaccioni, in fact the whole team was crap under him then come Mazzarri now the team is challenging for scudetto and crappy Alvarez has become a superstar.
Stramaccioni = pardew.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:54 AM
Comment #33I would love to see cisse grow as player. you know show us something new in his arsenal that we thought he was incapable of. i was pleased he showed a slight improvement in his hold up play against chelsea apart from when he let the ball slip down his shin and out for a goal kick that is : )
cyprus
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:56 AM
Comment #34Santon,
If you’ve been reading me you know I’d agree but AP then goes and gives me the Chelsea game, thus buying himself time magnificently.
cyprus
Nov 6, 2013 at 7:58 AM
Comment #35It’s a result business. If we start winning we’ll all be falling for AP AND MA and singing their praise in the stands (seats).
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:01 AM
Comment #36Cyprus
i was thinking if we did lose to makems then chelsea then spuds pardews job would be under real threat and then we beat chelsea and were stuck with him.
cyprus
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM
Comment #37I just hope Cisse isn’t thinking god is somehow punishing him for adorning that Wonga logo… If so, he’d be better off leaving.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:06 AM
Comment #38Papiss cisse said recently ” mama says, mama says wonga is the devil wroooghh!! ” haha
bills-son
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Comment #39“Its all about money at NUFC these days”
“We all know Ashley will sell as soon as the price is met”
‘Mid table mediocrity is the high of our ambition these days”
Strange how despite all of the above being trotted out non stop we have what most fans agree is the best squad in years.
And strange how we haven’t cashed in on a top player since AC nearly three years ago.
LEROI
Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM
Comment #40Has remy got a chant or a song. i can’t remember hearing any about him?