Pardew – That’s A Big Boost For Us As A Group


When Fabricio Coloccini injured his back in the home game against Southampton on 24th February, after trying an over his head clearance,  he was out of the side for over two months with that back injury, until he returned at West Ham on 4th May, and we managed to get four points out of the final three games of the season.

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Alan Pardew – coping without Colo is a big boost

And while Colo was out we played eight Premier League games, won two of them lost five and drew one, and we conceded eighteen goals, so we didn’t cope very well when Colo was out of the side.

But things have been much better over the last three games the captain has missed with his groin injury, and we have four points and conceded four goals.

That has not gone unnoticed by manager Alan Pardew, who had this to say today about Colo’s absence:

“It is the first time we have lost Colo and looked more comfortable than when he’s been out in the past.” “That is a big boost for us as a group.”

“When you lose a player and you can’t cope it affects everybody else.” “We have proved we can cope without him and Cabaye and anybody because it is about the team.”

“It shows we are stronger in depth and that’s good.” “I think we’ve been in good form.” “I said that before the Chelsea game.”

“It is very difficult to beat a team in top form like Chelsea were.” “So all credit to the players, they’ve been fantastic.”

Mike Williamson and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa have played in central defense since Colo has been out and both have been in good form.

But Alan Pardew could still bring Coloccini back into the starting lineup at Tottenham on Sunday, and that seems to be the big unknown at the moment.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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120 comments so far

  • cyprus

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #1

    I know we shouldn’t give up on players… Look at Deb, Anita and Tiote now, red faces on those who criticized them.

    YET: I’ve all but given up on Taylor. 1. He never plays, hence is a disruption when he returns. 2. He is prone to Bramble-style howlers.
    Also, given up on Obertan. It’s crazy but I’ve never seen him dribble past a player! (as always, video evidence would be much appreciated) This is a winger, he’s supposed to dribble, once in a while. I would’ve done that, at least once, in 3 years.

    PS. Ed, go to bed man, you’ve lost a lot of posters three four threads back 🙂

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #2

    REPOST!!

    We don’t penetrate enough for his game. We are set up defensively and he was a player who prospered when he first came in a team that was attacking….was one of the top scorers in Budusliga in a team that was fighting relegation….tough league!! Goals against Swansea perfect example of releasing the ball at the right time, even the goal v villa last season away!! Now when we attack we have 1 person in the box, even in the first half against Chelsea it was the same. The season we finished 5th we had 3 or 4 bodies in there!! Look at Southampton as a unit, we have a better squad with better first team 11 I believe but they have a manager who understands the modern game…Pressing high up the pitch, getting 4/5 players in the box to get goals. Buying the right players to fit his formation and not just buying for the sake of buying!! That’s what can be achieved with an ambitious manager, it’s what you do without the ball that is just as important as when you have it!!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #3

    I hope colo doesn’t come back in….the two lads playing have done well so deserve to keep their spot.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #4

    Lilongwe

    Yes we borrowed well in relation to Remy, but we have to utilise him in the right way though. Borrowed though? For a club that is in the top 20 for revenue we can’t afford to pay 7m or whatever it was? Now his values doubled and whatever he does this season for us will mean count for nothing in the future because we only get him for a year. Remy is a wide playing Forward, play him through the middle and the kid is useless, play him with someone who drops deep and he is useless. Play him with someone who will look to run in behind and he will score….because that space is created for him

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #5

    our toon

    remy is pacey and looks to run behind himself.

    At QPR (he said he chose them as they’d play him central) he played through the middle and score a good few goals for a rock bottom team.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #6

    Our Toon…I can understand the loan with Remy though. Given his uncertain future and all.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #7

    ibiza

    I’m sure as well that kinnear mentioned they had some sort of clause to buy for a set amount…not 100% sure but think i read it.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #8

    TS…I thought Kinnear had said that there wasn’t a clause?!?

    Mind, since when do we take Joe’s word at face value?

    The man could say the sun was hot and I’d have to start questioning the validity of it.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #9

    Transfer Sage,

    Think you will find Harry played the lad out wide and not through the middle, the lad made a BS reason for why he joined QPR (He went for the money) not that I have an issue with that because we would all move to do the same job for more money!! Yes completely understand the loan deal, but he looks to drop deep and doesn’t play on the shoulder. Never has anywhere he has played in his career

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #10

    our toon

    Well he actually played through the middle at QPR…feel free to check the highlights of last year.

    ibiza

    possibly…i knew he spoke of it but couldn’t remember the details.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #11

    our toon

    apparently QPR didn’t offer him more money…he went there to play the central role he wanted.

    We were both struggling and looking like possible relegation candidates so not much to choose between at the time.

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  • cyprus

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #12

    On Remy,
    Was just looking at Champ Table, QPR seem ‘destined’ to come right back. Harry will keep him in that case.
    Birmingham in drop zone! Who’s their coach these days.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #13

    Wasn’t it down to a game of Fifa with the owner? 🙂

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  • cyprus

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #14

    Wolves looking good for promotion…

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #15

    I honestly think we have a deal to sign Remy in place it will be for the 8 million he was available for in the summer if we managed to get him for that it would be the deal of the century as the guy is top drawer

    The only problem is are we attractive enough for him to stay ? We probably wont offer the top wages and ambition to qualify for europe so its likely he will move on after the season ends to the likes of Spurs or Arsenal where he will no doubt become a club legend there!

    I would just love it if for some reason Ashley had a change of heart and sanctioned another spending spree in January imagine we got Ince , Gomis and Zaha on loan and then signed another defender as well ??Could all be signed for under 12 million potentially could be part funded by selling Marveux ,Obertan and Gosling ? We can all dream but last season there was no way we would sign all 5 French players and try to get Remy so stranger things could happen ha ha

    Also why are our youngsters always injured!!Just read that Streete and Good will not be fit enough to go out on loan so thats going to be another couple of months of development wasted

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #16

    ibiza

    i think it was a few things…redknapp is a good attacking manage which makes forwards look a lot better and helps them get into international teams.

    He also got to live in london, really does help to pull people to clubs as its a busy place and good if you have plenty cash.

    Then he also got the release clause so even if they went down he wouldn’t have been stuck in the championship.

    Was a safe gamble for the lad.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #17

    TS…Agreed. Was disappointed, but could and can understand why he made the choice.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #18

    Also probably looked like QPR had the better chance of staying up as we had just been beaten off Reading at home had we not?

    Just thinking about it imagine we had signed everyone we should have last summer we probably would have won the Europa league ….

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #19

    TS

    Just checked the facts and the only time Remy played upfront was when Zamora was suspended, but for 1 game of Zamora’s 3 match ban Bothroyd came in, Remy played on 1 side and Taarabt on the other side with Zamora through the middle. He went for the money, as much as I hate to say it.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #20

    I agree that London was a good pull for him but from a career prospective his choice was shocking, even the French manager slated him. It became apparent in many French and national paper that the reason for his move was money orientated.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #21

    our toon

    he played in the middle…watch the games.

    also it wasn’t just the money, it wasn’t a bad choice…it was us or them, nobody else was after him, not seriously anyway.

    He may as well have gone there knowing he could leave if the season ended badly, which it did.

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  • Dude

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #22

    The surest sign we have a deal in place is silence from Floppychops. If we hadn’t he’d either be bigging up his return to QPR or instigating a bidding war. Or got Lieutenant Jamie to spout about it on his behalf. It’s not that publicising contract details was ever off limits to Slack Jowels.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #23

    Yeah I’m not slating the kid for his choice, which I still firmly believe was for the money, it’s no surprise that both him and Samba were released along with Taarabt yet they kept the likes of Barton? they got rid of highest earners, we wouldn’t offer north of £65k + on someone new!! I’ve watched the games from last season and the way his team was set up was for remy to play either behind the CF or out wide (same position he scored the crazy side footed finish from)

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #24

    Our Toon,
    The Remy deal bares no significance to what I commented on. You were having a go at Ashley JK and Pardew because they would go sign a player like Zigic. There is nothing in our transfer policy to suggest we would. Got nowt to do with ambition/loans/permanent deals etc.

    As for the Remy deal, can you imagine how much stick Ashley and co would get from the fans if we had spunked £8million and then he was charged and found guilty of rape. Behave man.

    As I said, there is plenty to knock the regime for without making things up to add to it.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #25

    It’s to early for floppy chops to be getting excited about his form, its only November….if he his still performing like this come March then I guarantee floppy chops will be touting him (if he wants to sell him) playing in front of 19k or 50k+, says a lot about the man who chooses 19k to apparently play in his favoured position but then joins the 50k club to go against what he believed in January…..MONEY TALKS!!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #26

    Dude,
    The surest sign we haven’t got a deal in place is the fact that everyone involved has said that there is nothing agreed. Harry has said he doesn’t know where he will end up, but that he doesn’t want any of the loan players back (typical drivel from ‘Arry). Kinnear has said he will return to QPR at the end of the year, and Remy has said he will make no decision about his future until next summer.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #27

    Lilongwe

    I’m just stating that your argument is flawed on Remys reasons for joining them against us, we agree to disagree on this particular area, although I agree that a loan was the only option given the off field antics!! As for Zigic it was a tongue in cheek reference and wasn’t meant to be taken literally!! You are the only who did though, Carr has less of a say as he did a year ago and Pards has more of a say than he did a year ago!! We saw the type of players Pards wanted hence the daft comment about Zigic!!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #28

    our toon

    money does talk but he said he gets the same wage

    working for an attacking manager over a defensive one when a forward also talks…..QPR were spouting off about ambition and a new stadium last year so could easily have been convinced by that.

    They were poor last year but made ambitious signings with the managers and remy/samba…they were wanting to kick on.

    Definitely be back next year and will spend big, have the richest owner in the country.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #29

    Our Toon,
    I haven’t given any reasons for Remy choosing them over us?? What are you talking about?

    On Carr, he has pulled out some duds as well. High chance Douglas would have been another, was never convinced when watching him and the calibre of striker that score lots of goals in Holland is generally very low. This suggests he probably isn’t that great. Not to mention he ended up at an average Russian backwater.

    I’d prefer that if we are keeping Pards, which looks likely we back him with the players he wants. Why keep giving a limited manager technically excellent players when he doesn’t know how to set up that way. Like giving a 6 month old an XBox for christmas. It may be a great present but the little tyke has no clue how to use it.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #30

    i don’t see why you think it’s wages when not what the player said…surely he would know.

    and other facts back up his argument, played up front with zamora who comes deeper for flick ons with remy pushing on ahead to get in behind, the lad also had a get out so at worst would be stuck there for 6 months

    hardly like we he rejected a champs league club to go there, he rejected a side who finished 16th.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #31

    llilongwe

    exactly…pards wants a mix of technical and strong players. So give him that and let him get on with it.

    Just because he wants strong/big players doesn’t mean they also can’t be technical.

    A big CB and CF could be kompany/vidic and benteke/drogba….big lads but technicall excellent too.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #32

    I agree they have plans to grow as a club, when he joined they were favourites to go down though, I just hate it when ppl try to sugar coat things because he joined us on loan!! QPR have fantastic plans and I somehow dobut Remy will be there when this so called new stadium is built (can take a couple of years) I bet the bonuses at QPR were higher than what we were willing to pay, maybe even a sweet signing on fee

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #33

    Sage,
    I said all summer Lukaku was the one player I would have broken the bank for. Exactly the sort of striker that Pards would be able to work with, but also an excellent footballer who could link well with other technical players.

    As for the big centre half, I’m less worried about them being technically excellent, as long s they know their limitations and can play the ball simply 5-10 yards. Reminds me of something Keegan said first time round. Darren Peacock was getting stick for not being good enough, but Keegan came out and said that without him the team wouldn’t function as well because he was the only one who knew his job was to defend – kind of similar to Willo at the moment.

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  • mindshaft

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #34

    To move some of these fringe /bench players out such as obertan, gosling etc we need someone willing to take them off our hands – something we had no luck with in the summer with Gosling

    a deal us already in place with QPR for Remy for 8million, however the player himself wants champions league footbalk , high wages etc so may not happen
    I don’t think QPR are certs for promotion – think they’ll have to do it through the playoffs

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #35

    Carr has had some excellent signings but also Pardew has had some say in who got signed Ba , Obertan and Sissoko were players that Pardew has said he wanted to bring too the club could imagine him wanting Debuchy as well Obertan being the only real dud but he has potential so I can see why we signed him cause if someone can get him playing properly you could have a player on your hands!

    Carr has made some excellent signings at small fees and thats the key I think if Ashley made proper funds available then between Carr and Pardew I reckon we would have a beasting team with technical players could imagine us having players like Shawcross, Wanyama, PEA and Valbuena if we would spend the going rate !

    Because we shop in the bargain basement aisle its going to be difficult to sign a good player every time it seems to be the youngsters that have potential that we dont seem to get right ?Some of them could still come good like Curtis Good and Satko

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #36

    mindshaft

    your assuming we wont qualify for the CL then haha 😉

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #37

    lilongwe

    Yeh, I agree on the CB…if he is technical as well then it’s a bonus, but strength and aerial power is important.

    Lukaku would never have joined us permanently i don’t think, think the lad has much higher ambitions, but a loan may have been a possiblilty…unless chelsea said everton or nobody which was a rumour why west brom couldn’t get him back.

    I know there isn’t limitless amounts of players but surely we scout enough to go find them, villa found beneteke, chelsea got drogba then lukaku…these players are out there.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #38

    Mindshaft,
    How do you know there is no deal in place? I think it was Mark Douglas who claimed that there was one. Kinnear has said there isn’t. While not the most reliable of sources there would be absolutely no reason to say there wasn’t if there was in fact a deal in place.

    We didn’t keep it quiet when we had that arrangement for HBA. So why would we now??

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #39

    if we are top ten in january what are the chances of ashley buying if we are bottom 3 the cheque book will magically appear

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #40

    Mindshaft,
    Sorry, how do you know there is a deal in place?

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