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Comparisons Of Tottenham And Newcastle Are Disturbing

9:54 am, Saturday, November 9th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 13 Comments

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has talked today about our opponents tomorrow – Tottenham Hotspur – who are now one of the top six clubs in England, but back in September of 2008, they were bottom of the Premier League when they came and beat Newcastle 2-1 at St. James’ Park back on September 24th in the League Cup.

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Mike Ashley - we’ve lost ground under the owner

And the rest is history, as they sacked Juande Ramos and appointed Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp in October of 2008, and Harry took them from that position into being a Champions League side within two years, when they finished 4th top of the league in May of 2010.

Harry had turned down Newcastle in January of that year, after we sacked Sam Allardyce and eventually appointed Kevin Keegan as manager, and of course Newcastle were relegated in that season and in May 2010 we had just been promoted back to the Premier League, as Spurs were preparing for the Champions League. :(

So after possibly being a more successful club than Tottenham back in 2008, we have lost enormous ground on Tottenham and the top six clubs in England over the last five years.

Those top six clubs are the two Manchester clubs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Liverpool – and that relegation in May, 2009 didn’t help us of course.

Alan Pardew has talked today about Tottenham’s current ambitions:

“A Champions League position will be what they’re targeting, and I think they have a very good chance of that.”  “And they’ve certainly used the (Gareth Bale) money well in terms of making the group stronger, and I think Villas-Boas has got a stronger group now.”

“Defensively, they’ve probably been the best side in the Premier League this season, so they’ve got a lot going for them at the moment.”

It’s clear that Spurs’ goal is to get into the top four and therefore qualify for the Champions League, but even Southampton are not shy in saying Champions League is their short term ambition too.

So it makes Newcastle’s goal of being in the top ten of the Premier League – in other words staying in the Premier League to get the big money but avoid any relegation struggles  - because it’s not good for the blood pressure.

Looks like we are a club of limited ambition, but unfortunately that’s exactly where we are at the moment.

Comments welcome.



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13 responses so far ↓

  • 1 North Atlantic Magpie // Nov 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Looking at our squad and the players we have, we belong in the top 8 and should be challening the top 6.

  • 2 North Atlantic Magpie // Nov 9, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Challenging*

  • 3 scout // Nov 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Possibly the most ludicrous comments I have ever read. Look how much money spurs have spent on players in comparison to Newcastle you should be pleased we can even compete.
    We are doing well considering our lack of investment, saying we have lost ground isn’t really a valid statement, you should be saying spurs have closed the gap on the top 4.

  • 4 Whoarya.com // Nov 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Aiming to be in the top ten clubs in the country is ambition as it also puts us in the top 20 in the World.

    We just aren’t being mental with the money.

    Even the ground Spurs live on has nearly tripled in value since then as its London so it is what it is and we should rejoice in the fact we aren’t in the Championship.

    HTL

  • 5 lesh // Nov 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    scout. The points Ed made are valid in that appointing Rednapp when Spurs were bottom or near bottom was a agreed move and was the first step up from being the mid-table mediocre one that it was fir years.

    Levy saw that relegation would put a massive dent in the club’s finances and hr did something about it. And what did Ashley do when faced with relegation? Yup, he let Hughton take the helm, then Mr Success himself, Kinnear. Then Houghton and Shearer. Plop and down we go costing the club a lot of money that we still owe in the form if its debt to Ashley.

    Hughton brought us straight back abd under Pardew’s watch, we achieve fifth. Did we build on that success with new players?’ Nope!

    Did Spurs invest year on year? Yup. Did Spurs income increase? Yup.

    In the meantime, our commercial revenue has plummeted and we supposedly can’t afford players and what did Ashley do to make us stronger and wealthier? Nothing but nothing and his stupidity in appointing Kinnear as overseer of matters football, is akin to a one-legged man entering an arse kicking contest. A ludicrous move.

    I think that the difference between the two clubs over recent years lies with the commercial visions. We began to go downhill financially when Freddy Fletcher left. Spurs began its financial ascent with Levy.

    Who’ve we god looking after income generation for Newcastle United? Who’s selling our advertising space? Who’s strengthening the brand that is Newcastle United? Who’s showing any ambition at all?

    Who’s taking the pi$$ out of Newcastle United,?

  • 6 scout // Nov 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    If he threw a load of money at it where would we get champions league? I doubt it. Uefa cup? Ah done that. Give him some credit. Got 35 million for Carroll. Hasn’t really sold anyone else for big money and trying to run it on the cheap, and for someone doing that were sitting canny

  • 7 Whumpie // Nov 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Couldn’t agree more with Lesh @ 5. Ashley has defined the word ‘cynic’ in seeing the cost of everything and the value of nothing. There has been a criminal neglect of the brand and our revenue streams, culminating in the suicical association with Wonga. Meanwhile Spurs have done everything right and look where they’re heading.
    Yes, we’ve done quite sell considering the shackles on our ankles – but the contrast between two clubs both operating within their means is stark.
    I’m happy with the team and the manager – but the owner really is ripping the soul out of the place. Let’s get that idiot out; enough is enough.

  • 8 Ancientcoptic // Nov 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    I am not sure you could really say Tottenham have used the Gareth Bale money well.

    Lamela & Eriksen are not getting in the team, which is over 40 million of the Bale money.

    Soldado will get goals, but lacks pace and has a heavy touch, he has a degree of class, but I think they overpaid for him.

    It still remains to be seen if Capoue can get in the first team when fit too.

    Tottenham should count themselves lucky they have a defense in good form.

  • 9 nufc 11 // Nov 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Just watched the movie goal quiet good watch heart breaking to see how much nufc as a team and a brand has fallen since. Gone from box office to a poor mans Bolton well done ma.

  • 10 stuart no9 // Nov 9, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Scout. Why is it ludicrous. ? Spurs have spent a lot more money on players you say – blame Ashley for that .We get 50000 every week , by can’t we buy players but spurs can ? It’s called ambition – or lack of it in our case

  • 11 the bloody geordie // Nov 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    in the end….it is mike arseleys unpredictable character and attitude that burdens and downs the team….

  • 12 grrrbby // Nov 10, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    I read the blog regularly and think Ed does a fantastic job! I’ve had to register tonight though, just to disagree with some of the comments on here.

    Mike Ashley gets a lot of stick and I’m not his biggest fan but can also see the things he’s done well for the club.

    1. Removing any debt the club had using his own money.

    2. Not putting the club back into debt by buying overly expensive players we can’t afford like shepherd did but instead buying within our means.

    I think we have a pretty decent team and certainly one that can be challenging for domestic cups and the top 8. I think last year was a bad season due to injuries and too many games but this season we’ve been playing some really good stuff and just need to be a bit more consistent.

    A win at spurs would be fantastic and three pints behind them having spent £100 million less in the summer.

    Are things really that bad? I don’t think so…

  • 13 grrrbby // Nov 10, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    Points*




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