This Is Now Starting To Pay Off Big Time At Newcastle


Who would have though that we’d get a full 6 points out of our games with Chelsea and Tottenham in the last two games and not concede a goal, and to think we did that without the likes of Fab Coloccini, Ben Arfa, Papiss Cisse and Steven Taylor in the starting line-up.

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Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa covering Roberto Soldado yesterday

So it seems as though things are starting to change at Newcastle and we now have real competition for places in most areas of the side, and that’s paying off big time with some excellent performances coming from the likes of Mike Williamson, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa and Cheick Tiote, whose starting positions are under pressure from other players.

Competition for places pushes players to be at their very best in every game,  because they know a poor game and they could be out of the starting line-up in the next game.

As we mentioned this morning too, January is a good time to bring in another two or three good players to further add to the competition for places, and who knows – we may even be able to have a decent season again.

It will be interesting to see if we do bring in some new players in January, and it will help us gauge the ambitions of owner Mike Ashley and Director of Football Joe Kinnear.

Here’s hoping they do the same as last January, especially since we brought only Loic Remy in on loan in the summer – but of course he’s been just fantastic in Newcastle colors so far this season.

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77 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #1

    It’s a shame it almost took us a relegation for the fatman to listen to the footballing people at the club and realise you need more than one player for each positio.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #2

    Do you think we’ll see Mbwia at LB with Santon moved over to the right against Norwich with Debuchy being suspended.

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  • DokToon

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #3

    JfA…

    blasphemy sir!! 🙂

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  • stretchintoon

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #4

    No suprise about cisse tho,he needs selling quickly,lets try and get ba back,ba & remy up front…that id like to see.

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  • JackButler

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #5

    Can anyone actually see us spending anything in January if we sitting pretty in mid table???

    Last January’s spending spree only came about as our position in the league was under serious threat

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  • Belfast

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #6

    I actually think Willamson and Mbiwa is our best pairing.
    Colo is better than both of them, but I think Mbiwa looks far more solid alongside Willamson.

    Also Tiote has looked much better since he got the armband, and should keep it on a permanent basis, in my opinion.

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  • Belfast

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #7

    Absolutely no chance Butler. If we’re 9th in January we wont spend a penny unless we sell somebody.

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  • pottsclock

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #8

    We may not buy in January but I think we will. When we were doing well with just Ba in the season we finished 5th, Cisse arrived in January.
    I think we do business when it is good business to do and if the need is there. The need is there due to Cisse’s form and Remy’s probable departure in the summer. The question is whether the right person is available for the right price but Ashley may take the view that he’d rather spend in January than in the summer when the competition is greater.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #9

    JB…probably if MA can see himself making an investment 😉

    …I still think he preparing for a sale (as long as he can get out with his dignity intact) …that’s the hard part!

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  • JackButler

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #10

    pottsclock

    There are good deals in the summer and yet again we over looked them, can’t see what the difference is between the summer window and january’s?

    Spend to survive not to succeed

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  • JackButler

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #11

    jesper

    Agree he’s looking at the exit and will go as soon as he can recoup his money……………as for going with his dignity intact……………….there’s no chance of that happening as that ship has sailed and he’ll never get it back after the shamble’s he’s created

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #12

    JB…hence the hard part 😉 lol

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  • JackButler

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #13

    jesper

    Thats not hard it bloody impossible

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  • pyunky

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #14

    Bambams, try Optajoe on Twitter for Goalkeeper stats. Not sure how far they go back.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #15

    Potts
    In all fairness though we tried to get cisse in the previous January window!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #16

    NUFC transfer policy is quite simple really.

    If we NEED players as relegation looms, we will buy. Other than that, only if there is a deal to be had (and that deal wont get better in say 6 months).

    Can’t really think of any of our transfers that fall outside of those conditions.

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  • scout

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #17

    He won’t invest heavily, why would he? we are never gonna get top 4 and the squad is too light for Uefa cup.
    We just plod on not really getting anywhere, that’s our motive. Ash will be happy with that IMO people who are saying spurs only get 30 odd thousand, try looking at the prices to get in. You won’t see a premiership game in London for the 15 notes we charge. I pay 9 to watch non league stuff.
    We have had a good start, people are never happy. We start well and you want more players. Look at the teams with massive additions most are taking time to bed in.
    Just enjoy the good start and don’t get carried away

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  • scout

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #18

    If the main man really wanted to pi.. The fans off in January you know he could. There’s quite and valuable squad in place now which they seem content to keep

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  • JackButler

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #19

    scout

    He’s only content to keep the squad we have until the right offer comes in. Every player is for sale with no assurance of any being reinvested

    Don’t forget that if Arsenal offered the right amount in the summer Cabaye would no longer be here

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #20

    Spending to get intop the top four is a spending balancing act.
    take a look at the four tables below and see how much teams have spent in the last five years to getin/stay in the top four never mind stay in the Premiership.
    last years top four in the last five years have spent 1.647 billion to stay in the top four and the spuds and Liverpuddle over £300 million to get into the top four.
    Spent last 5 Years Gross

    1 Manchester City £640,650,000
    2 Chelsea £390,000,000
    3 Liverpool £304,450,000
    4 Tottenham £310,900,000
    5 Manchester United £229,750,000
    6 Arsenal £188,200,000
    7 Aston Villa £179,600,000
    8 Sunderland £153,630,000
    9 Stoke City £99,825,000
    10 Newcastle £93,150,000
    11 West Ham £81,850,000
    12 Southampton £75,350,000
    13 Everton £63,500,500
    14 West Bromwich A £50,745,000
    15 Fulham £50,580,000
    16 Swansea £48,455,000
    17 Hull City £41,525,000
    18 Cardiff City £29,695,000
    19 Norwich City £22,750,000
    20 Crystal Palace £18,800,000

    Sold last 5 Years
    1 Tottenham £306,300,000
    2 Liverpool £220,550,000
    3 Arsenal £192,400,000
    4 Manchester City £163,700,000
    5 Manchester United £128,800,000
    6 Newcastle £118,150,000
    7 Sunderland £103,700,000
    8 Chelsea £100,100,000
    9 Aston Villa £93,600,000
    10 Everton £75,816,000
    11 West Ham £54,800,000
    12 Fulham £39,700,000
    13 Swansea £29,860,000
    14 West Bromwich A £28,810,000
    15 Southampton £14,600,000
    16 Cardiff City £12,925,000
    17 Crystal Palace £9,750,000
    18 Stoke City £8,650,000
    19 Hull City £8,250,000
    20 Norwich City £1,100,000

    Profit/Loss on transfers in and out

    1 Manchester City -£476,950,000
    2 Chelsea -£289,900,000
    3 Manchester United -£100,950,000
    4 Stoke City -£91,175,000
    5 Aston Villa -£86,000,000
    6 Liverpool -£83,900,000
    7 Southampton -£60,750,000
    8 Sunderland -£49,930,000
    9 Hull City -£33,275,000
    10 West Ham -£27,050,000
    11 West Bromwich A -£21,935,000
    12 Norwich City -£21,650,000
    13 Swansea -£18,595,000
    14 Cardiff City -£16,770,000
    15 Fulham -£10,880,000
    16 Crystal Palace -£9,050,000
    17 Tottenham -£4,600,000
    18 Arsenal +£4,200,000
    19 Everton +£12,315,500
    20 Newcastle +£25,000,000

    “Nett total divided by the 5 giving an average of the money spent in transfer fees by each premiership club each season in the last five Seasons.

    1 Manchester City £95,390,000
    2 Chelsea £57,980,000
    3 Manchester United £20,190,000
    4 Stoke City £18,235,000
    5 Aston Villa £17,200,000
    6 Liverpool £16,780,000
    7 Southampton £12,150,000
    8 Sunderland £9,986,000
    9 Hull City £6,655,000
    10 West Ham £5,410,000
    11 West Bromwich A £4,387,000
    12 Norwich City £4,330,000
    13 Swansea £3,719,000
    14 Cardiff City £3,354,000
    15 Fulham £2,176,000
    16 Crystal Palace £1,810,000
    17 Tottenham £920,000
    18 Arsenal -£840,000
    19 Everton -£2,463,100
    20 Newcastle -£5,000,000

    Conclusion for the TOON to get in and stay in the top four they are going to have to spend millions upon millions.
    and take a hit on selling on players unless they find a Gareth Bale

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #21

    whoops
    forgot where I got the info from: http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

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  • bobby mango

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #22

    If we sign Remy permanently in Jan and no-one leaves I be happy. Very happy.

    Such is my pessimism I don’t see us getting anyone and fear Remy will be lost when his contract is up.

    A sensible policy would see us getting a complete striker and some competition at RB, a decent youngster would do.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #23

    Well it may be the club has decided January and not the summer is time to do business. They can get almost out of contract players or those out of favour on the cheap which fits in with low spending policy.

    I’d rather they came in during the summer but we now have a decent squad so I guess we can deal with then slowly settling in playing the odd game from January to the summer.

    Same as every transfer window with us, I don’t worry or get excited, just wait and see how it pans out and judge after.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #24

    Cisse came in January because he was cheaper but still the best part of 9mil. Could have gotten cheaper options.

    Whilst I’m no Ashley fan, and not 100% on board with the transfer policy (left ourselves short before) I think it’s hard to predict what will happen. It’s other issues to do with tradition and respect I have my issue with Ashley

    And with remy if the man doesn’t want to sign for us nothing we can do.

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  • giimps

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #25

    There’s always the season ticket renewal time in February to spur on the buying of players.
    If we bought in the summer, people would want more in January if things were going poorly, if he buys in January, he can show that he’s willing to spend to keep us in the league, it will be interesting to see what happens if by January we are still in top half or higher, will he see the opportunity to get more of the huge prize money pot by finishing further up the league, or will he hold his purse strings until the money is in the bank, then sell to buy in the summer.
    Hwtl

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  • MosesNUFC

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #26

    Catchy

    you keep on calling the tactics for chelsea and tottenham games “negative” or defensive”

    Chelsea game-as pardew said in the first half we conserved energy we pressurised them into making mistakes, didn’t allow any time on the ball. second half-we controlled them most of the half and came away with a well deserved three points.

    Spurs game-first half, we controlled them and setup perfectly, went 1-0 up most of tottenhams shots were outside the box. second half-well what do expect, spurs losing at half time they’re bound to come out and pin any team back. But we stayed resilient, kept the spirit and there were only 2 o 3 clear cut chances from the ball bobbling round the box, but Krul was there to save them and thats what he’s there for. M’Biwa’s clearance off the line summed it up, the team spirit and fight was unbelievable, and for M’Biwa to make that clearance which looked like it would inevitably go in, is phenomenal. We came away with yet again another well deserved 3 points, and a masterminded victory by pardew and the boys.

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  • G

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #27

    It is amazing how we can leave out several supposedly key men, and yet outperform the team that includes them. Just goes to show I suppose, that the best players do not always make the best team. Much as I love to watch your Ben Arfa’s of the world, we wouldn’t get very far with 11 of them (but my god it would be nice to watch!).

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #28

    voted defeat then posted to win and win well on blog credit where it is due a great team effort krul outstanding

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #29

    charlie you forgot the relegated sides in you five year extravaganza

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #30

    did we not drop to championship for one year ergo those figures will be out

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #31

    John Tudor
    I have not got the info on that but will have a look and see if the web site has the info

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #32

    Yes the win was a bit lucky as spurs had a couple chances they should have given krul no chance to save but they have him a chance.

    Whether it’s the actual finish that’s poor or the pass to set up the goal is poor, either way there own fault for not scoring.

    Against good teams no matter how well you set up and play they can still beat you. Even if we played perfect tactics to 100% effort doesn’t mean better teams like Chelsea and spurs can’t win.

    So sure we rode our luck but you can’t dominate every game even with a master tactician and the best players.

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #33

    and could those wins be put down to the players taking it upon themselves to try and win in their own way

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #34

    what would be interesting is to see those figures what the relegated clubs have spent /received

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #35

    John Tudor
    Takes a bit of working out but I have got the spend of each team relegated. some teams have been up and down in those years.
    profit loss on spend would take a bit of working out.

    QPR £76,450,000
    Bolton £25,050,000
    Blackpool £5,925,000
    Birmingham £39,675,000
    Reading £12,859,000
    Wigan £55,300,000
    Blackburn £47,302,000
    Wolves £49.000,000

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #36

    where would we sit if those were added into those tables out of curiosity

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #37

    John

    Look on the web link he posted and see if it’s there.

    What I think it shows is not clear. Sunderland spent a decent amount of money this summer but bought so many players none of them were of particularly high quality.

    Basically money isn’t important, what is important is getting in the right type of players you need to take the club forward at the right time.

    Spending money does work as city have proven . What doesn’t work is spending a lot of money on average players which is what stoke have.

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #38

    the only figures i like are 38-24-36

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #39

    Lads have to say….don’t know what I was even worried about, we seem to have found a formation against the so called “better teams” which is to sit back and hit them on the counter attack, served us well against Chelsea and against Spurs. The win on Sunday reminded me of the year we finished 5th (lots of luck) we weren’t the best team out there but the players were fantastic nonetheless and still got the win. Against the lesser teams playing that way won’t work and invention will be needed, especially the next 2 home games, WBA won’t be easy either, will be interesting to see how we set up and whether we attack more because we will have to. Luck or no luck will take that all the time.

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  • martoon

    Nov 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #40

    I like reading Catchy’s comments because he is entertaining and deliberately controversial but what he doesn’t seem to understand is there are TWO teams in a game. We don’t deliberately attack and then sit back, it’s that the other team raises their game and pushes forward. You could argue we should not allow them to do that but if we could completely control the opposition then football would be an easy game and we would win every game!

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