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Tottenham Was A Very Different Game To Chelsea

10:24 am, Monday, November 11th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 164 Comments

Alan Pardew admitted after the game that the win at White Hart Lane was different from the previous week’s win against Chelsea,  because we controlled the Chelsea game in the second half, but that wasn’t true yesterday,  as Tottenham came at us like a ton of bricks in that second half, and we rode our luck, and Tim Krul thankfully was in world-class form in goal.

tim krul saves with left foot at spurs

Tim Krul saved this one with his left foot

This is what an upbeat Newcastle manager Alan Pardew said after the game yesterday:

“This was a very different game to the Chelsea game,” “I thought we were in control against Chelsea.”

“We lost control a bit in the second half and Spurs pulled us around. We got a little bit deeper than I would have liked.”

“In the first half I thought we were very, very good and deserved to have the lead.” “We capitalised on what we thought was a little weakness on their part and Remy scored again?

“But in the second half AVB made good moves and we really rode our luck as well as showing real spirit and character you need to have to get a 1-0 win somewhere as tough as this.”

And it seems like the ban on journalists from the Chronicle (Lee Ryder, Neil Cameron) and the Journal (Mark Douglas. Stuart Rayner) is still in place,  as the manager was again under orders and refused to take questions from them after the game.

Here’s what Wendy Taylor, head of Communications at Newcastle United said before the press conference started after the game yesterday:

“Before we start I need to make it clear there won’t be any questions from The Journal or the Chronicle answered by our manager.”

Isn’t it time that we had a truce in this stand-off – for the good of the football club?

What do you think?

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164 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon-Prodigy // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    The club is going too far with this and it’s becoming embarrasing.

    It’s almost like they are scared to answer tough questions from our local media.

    They need to call a truce quickly.

  • 2 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    The club should keep in mind that the press often tend to be the victors when football bosses get too big for their boots!

  • 3 Magickit // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    I think hv an outstanding match again.

    His pass to remy, ameobi and 1 stunning cross field pass to cisse. 1 neglecting anita injured XD pass to cisse to volley. Fantastic! !

    And he keeps sliding Townsend!!! :)

  • 4 stuart no9 // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    ASHLEY OUT- thats one way to sort it !

  • 5 croftus5678 // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    first half we should have had 3-4 but second half we should have conceeded 3-4.
    well done krull but tbh he gave the ball away through his kicking a hell of a lot also which put us under pressure.
    williamson/mbiwa again played great and big applause goes to debuchy who i’m struggling to find a better rb atm and goofy !
    shola had a good game again (just a shame he cant score) and remy runnning off the cb’s shoulders with cabayes/goofy’s passing was awsome.
    the more i see cisse the more i think he’s avg at best though tbh to the point where even shola looks 2 classes above him.

  • 6 Magickit // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    I think Cabs hv an outstanding match again.

    His pass to remy, ameobi and 1 stunning cross field pass to cisse. 1 neglecting anita injured XD pass to cisse to volley. Fantastic! !

    And he keeps sliding Townsend!!! :)

  • 7 Toon-Prodigy // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    What an excellent opportunity we have with our next two home games.

    Lets get six points on the board and keep the consistency going.

    Would put us in a great position.

  • 8 croftus5678 // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    most of the press over the years have not been very kind about us at all and made us look like right idiots !
    just look at what went on a few weeks ago ! kinear was scouting shane fergusson who we already own (as much as i hate the bloke and want him gone this has now made us look right idiots to every other clubs fans when it was all made up by a sunderland fan)

    i see hardly any good reports about our team in the pepers so i dont see a problem (imo its just stopping bad morale within the team)

  • 9 Scottiedog // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24808135

    No Shola?!?!? must be a mistake surely?

  • 10 estechco // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Great picture of Timmy.

    Makes him look like a Ninja?

  • 11 Mister Tuff // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Last night Bills son stated that I was not a true fan as I wanted Newcastle to lose.
    I have never ever in my life wanted or stated or inferred I want the Toon to lose a game. He was asked to produce evidence to back up his claim – which he obviously cannot do.
    As someone who has supported the Toon for many years and went to my first game at St James’ Park in the early 60′s -being unjustly labelled as being not a true fan is an insult especially if his reasoning for this is his false assertion that I want the team to lose. I’ll ask again – evidence please.
    It seems that to have the effrontery to have an opinion other than Bills -is sufficient to be labelled as not being a true fan – he does not want to listen to an alternative viewpoint – (bit like Ashley suppressing opinions).
    He then went on to blame another poster for my original post.
    I may have taken it a bit too far in stating I would like to to administer to him “a good thrashing” -in the stable yard under the Queensbury Rules- which I withdraw.
    Seems like some folk like to dish out the slander, then whinge about it when it is challenged.
    Evidence please – or a retraction of your false allegations.
    Also seems having a sense of humour is not appreciated by some.

  • 12 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    croftus5678
    The Press like to set the agenda.
    They hate anyone that does not speak to them or give them a story. So they make one up hoping the person concerned bites.

  • 13 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    croftus5678
    And as for Mark Douglas – Journal hack who does he think he his calling himself ‘The voice of North East Sport’ some ego eh!!!

    Maybe the TOON are answering their critics ij the press by keeping mum and doing it on the pitch.

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Croftus
    Made up by a Sunderland fan?
    It came from Steve Howey and Lee Clark mate weeks before the journal/chronicle printed a word

  • 15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Senor Tuff…don’t worry about what other people might say – last night there was some sort of gathering on the blog by certain bloggers patting each others back and putting them self on a self righteous pedestal!

    …what can you do? I usually just breach a sigh and move on. Maybe today will be a better day – we will see ;)

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    *breath

  • 17 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    If we don’t win these next two games, we’re seriously shooting ourselves in the foot. No point beating Chelsea and Spurs if you can’t beat the likes of Norwich at home.

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    I can see Leeds is in the top half again this season; wouldn’t mind having them back in the PL :)

    …always liked ‘em!

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Belfast…we having one of these lady luck periods like the season when we finish 5th. I think if there ever was i time for us to pick up points it’s now :)

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Mister Tuff,
    Good morning, unfortunately bills son, since stating that Ashley would make us all look like mugs and make some stellar signings in the summer and offering to withdraw is support for him if not has reverted to making things up, he claimed that I said Ashley should insist on release clauses in players contracts, which I hadn’t and completely missed my point, Ashleys actions have become indefensible by all but one poster.

  • 21 Jamiemac // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    haha Pummeller sums it up perfectly

    PUMMELLER // Nov 11, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    if you cant enjoy days like the last two weekends have brought then i dont see why you support a football team?!
    whats the point?
    miserable b*stards on here man

    Catchy, you’re pretty much the reason I stay away from this blog. Your viewpoint is messed up.

    On a side note where’s all the Swansea and Laudrup lovers gone? Haven’t heard them in a while? Newcastle are above Swansea so surely that means Pardew > Laudrup?

  • 22 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Jamicmac…sure that’s what it means!

  • 23 Mister Tuff // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    jesper -you are probably correct – it is not that I worry but I think if you state something – you should have the decency to back it up. It is then not surprising that certain other parties appear trying to link posts of certain parties as being responsible for some quitting the blog or being forced from it -all complete rubbish of course.

  • 24 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Mister Tuff
    Can certainly say I’ve never seen you say you want us to lose, predict a loss yeah but who hasn’t
    Like your posts mate keep em coming, be boring if everyone on here agreed!

    Belfast
    WBA and Norwich will be a good measure of where were at, we need a consistency to keep us top half
    Neither game will be a stroll, WBA are a bit if a bogey team for us and think it will be a draw , but Norwich are struggling it would be nice to see us build on a great set of results by absolutely pasting them!!!

    Jesper
    If by patting each other on the back you mean celebrating a great 3 points yeah there were plenty doing that, Mister tuff included
    Shame “certain bloggers” were only interested in ripping apart a very tough and deserved 3 points
    Let me guess……go away zzzzz

  • 25 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Bill-son is generally full of shit, so I wouldn’t lose any sleep over something he said.

  • 26 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Aye I just get that feeling that we’ll probably draw with norwich and get beat by west brom lol

  • 27 Toon Tang // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    belfast, it would be typical newcastle to win the 2 harder games and then get beat by norwich and west brom at home in the ‘easier’ games eh

  • 28 Toon Tang // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    really wouldn’t surprise me one bit

  • 29 Mister Tuff // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Jail morning – I ‘m slightly peeved at also being called negative -especially after I predicted the score as being 2-1 to the Toon yesterday -maybe got the score wrong but not the result -even complimented the partnership of Mr T and Cabaye – but was accused of being negative. Just cannot please some folk.
    Have to dash now -will be back later this evening.

  • 30 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Belfast
    Lol aye, depends how we set up, if we go into it like we did hull were going to make it very hard for ourselves!
    Need to bring the commitment we’ve shown against citeh Liverpool chelski and spuds

  • 31 wolfshead@toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    I would like to to administer to him “a good thrashing” -in the stable yard under the Queensbury Rules-http://www.flickr.com/photos/norbet/10324476933/ :-)

  • 32 ilovetoon8788 // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    that ball by gouffran to Remy was perfect. what a player he’s turning out to be. chipping in with goals, assists and immense work-rate. player of the season so far for us, as far as im concerned. followed by Remy.

  • 33 martoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Reading through the posts from last night things got a little heated to say the least. I get it that there are people who think Pardew is a cr*p manager and want him gone. However if you cannot enjoy a win like yesterday’s without decrying the manager for a few hours after the match then what is the point of supporting NUFC?

  • 34 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Senor Tuff…I have been on the blog for more than three years now and that has sadly always been the case!

    …it is not so bad anymore – before we had alot of grouping going on and tag teams. It is so easy saying that others are responsible for others leaving (what’s happened to though of starting with the man in the mirror?)

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    The whole place is buzzing with back to back wins against CL contenders, that type of form would have most fans dreaming of top six, however we all now know that if we’re in or around 9th Ameobi will be deemed suitable and we’ll probably see HBA sold for 8M before he goes into the last year of his contract.

  • 36 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    tads…would you please? that’ll be nice!

  • 37 wolfshead@toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    i thought it was a happy place yesterday apart from a few handbags flying which was pretty funny

  • 38 SeanNufc87 // Nov 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    7 points, 3 games, Liverpool, chelsea and Tottenham. If you had told me we would get 7 points from them 3 weeks ago id have thought you a moron.

    Even starting to get a bit of the noise back.

  • 39 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    There was people on here slagging of Gouffran a few weeks ago. He’s been outstanding the last two games. Certainly a million times better than Jonas that’s for sure.
    We’re a far better side without Jonas in the team.

  • 40 Toon Tang // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    put it this way, if we predict easy wins we will get beaten mark my words. i just hope the players dont think “ahh its only norwich, we can take our foot off the gas”

    we all know what happens when we start thinking those nuggets of wonder

  • 41 cyprus // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Been reading back…

    Dear regulars, DO NOT give up on our most gifted player! Willing to let him go for 10 mil? Are you accountants, who cares 10 up 10 down? He must be convinced that others can contribute as much, thus ‘using’ them, passing, finding through balls etc.

    Come on, Mr. Motivator! If you can’t motivate him then I’ll give up on you, again ;)

  • 42 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Speaking about Jonas, is he injured or just not featuring?

    …seem to remember something about an injury, but thought that was a while back!

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Sean,
    You are a moron.

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Jesper
    Your skills of debate are as good as ever!
    Notice since your scathing round up of the game you’ve posted sweet FA about the result but instead been scurrying about trying to pick a side, the exact thing you’ve just deemed sad to see in post 34!

  • 45 SeanNufc87 // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Jail

    Unless we can get him consistent and working for the team id take 8m for him, hes a luxury player we cant really afford. Sure on his day hes unplayable but its too few n far between

  • 46 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    The Norwich game will be a tough test, not because theyre hard to beat but because of our chronic inconsistency and it also ties in with our bad luck after international breaks. when the lads are on a role these bloody international breaks knack it all. Some our lads end up playing more so its not much of a break for them poor boys and nearly every international break we have a top player return hurt or a not so top player not return to the toon at all.

  • 47 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Belfast,
    I would be very happy if we bought a striker so Shola never has to start again and a CB who can play more than 12 games a season and doesn’t need his arms duct taped to his sides.

  • 48 cyprus // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Price gone down to 8? 6, anyone?

  • 49 wolfshead@toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    @34

    i got a jacko song in my head now thanks a lot haha

  • 50 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Leroi
    Lol exactly mate , the international break couldn’t have come at a worse time for us!

    Belfast
    Mate, goofy has been awesome, can’t speak highly enough about this lad, what a gem he’s turned into!!
    The lad has an eye for goal to if he can finish the season with say 10 goals I’d be made up for him

  • 51 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    tads…do you ever feel like you “lose time” or are “left in a dark place”?

  • 52 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Wolfs
    If that’s all jacko has stuck in you consider yourself very very lucky

  • 53 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    wolfs…sorry :)

    …I sort of got that problem as well now lol

  • 54 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Jesper
    Lol
    Yup you still can’t argue your point, or even stand by it, you just run away
    You should prob revoke your manly man membership

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    tads…I don’t want to argue with you, I don’t even want to be associated with you cause you are a disrespectful little man!

    …hence the notion “go away” which you have a problem both respecting and understanding.

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Jesper
    Okay lol
    Disrespectful is someone coming on and ripping apart the display showing zero interest about walking out of WHL with 3 points and then telling people there not true fans

  • 57 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    What’s with the constant war between you two ladies nowadays ? I could arrange a fair dig outside if you’s want ?

  • 58 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Logging in to find Belfast being the voice of reason…This blog never ceases to amaze :)

  • 59 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Gouffy is my favourite player even though Remy is getting most of the goals 47% of the toons goals infact. haha come to think of it back when i was 11 or 12 a certain mr Cole used to score the most goals for us but my favorite player was good old Beardo haha i get even more of a kick when gouffy scores now just like when handsome Pete used to get 1 back in 94 and i always turn to me mates and familia and say in a chuffed voice ” yeah that’s ma boi he’s my best player”
    Make of that what you will bloggers hahaha!

  • 60 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Wash your mouth out Jail.
    We’ve got a fantastic squad, and that’s why the goal machine Shola starts. All paid for by the great leader. If it wasn’t for him we’d be playing against Barnet in the blue square premier. :)

  • 61 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Belfast…it’s nothing!

    it’s an attitude problem which have gone on far too long…I was addressing it, but has decided it is not worth it.

    So have have you been?

  • 62 wolfshead@toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    tads

    i saw the highlights on motd mbiwas goal line clearance was – well it defied the law of physics :-)

  • 63 Owldman // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    We should all enjoy the moment, Ive no doubt we will have bad days during the season but just let us enjoy the good days,however there are bloggers who will knock the team & individual players no matter how well we do,we have had two great results,yet there are those who are still not happyMan City got turned over by the Mackems I,ll bet Sunderland supporters aren’t knocking their players

  • 64 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1844384-analysing-tim-kruls-performance-vs-tottenham

    Another video of super Tims performance yesterday, can’t get over this lad yesterday, phenomenal

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Ibiza…well we can all be amazed can we not?

  • 66 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Jesper I have have have been ruddy marvelous.
    What about your good self ?

  • 67 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Wolfshead
    The lad must have springs in his knees! How the f**k he got is foot on that!!!

    Belfast
    Handbags at dawn!
    Lol just don’t have to take someone saying I’m not a real fan because
    I’m made we got 3 points, it’s BS

    Owldman
    Highly doubt the scum are knocking there performance either, nor the Manure fans, was hardly a comfortable win!!!
    Just enjoy the bloody result!

  • 68 kt97toonarmy // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Well krul proved to the world he is a world class keeper. That match reminded me of the match between arsenal Newcastle at highbury they chucked everything at shay given nd he saved everything nd nobby solano won it for us later on. Anybody remember that?

  • 69 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Belfast…that’s good to hear :)

    Been great thank you for asking – been trying to keep Ibiza in line without any luck sadly !

  • 70 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Ibiza crawl back under that san antonio rock you came from.

  • 71 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Jesper…Indeed we can.

  • 72 JackButler // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    The ban on the local press will stay in place until Ashley gets his own way, just hope they don’t back down to the man

  • 73 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Cisse played a lovely ball down the left wing to sissoko yesterday and actually made a couple of tackles to relieve spurs pressure, However if you’re listning mr pardew never and the leroi means NEVER sub Remy off for cisse until he’s been coached to hold the ball up better. we had sammy on the bench he couldve been like a mix of hold up play and the tireless channel runner, think about it man, think about it.

  • 74 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Jesper…Did you enjoy the rest of your birthday celebrations?

    Belfast…I have never “come from” San Antonio, nor do I reside there.

    Plus my rock has been repossessed.

  • 75 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    JB…The club should keep in mind that the press often tend to be the victors when football bosses get too big for their boots!

  • 76 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    ok

    the HBA argument

    how many games from an attacking point of view has he won us all by him self ? to many to count

    if you look at our defenders how many games do they lose for us as a group ? to many to count

    HBA is being asked to do things that is not his strong point in football, yeh sure help defend, it would be great if he had the work ethic of goofy, but he don’t , but on that note, goofy could only wish to have the skill levels that HBA has

    we attack as inderviduals far to often, and defend as a team,

    this is turning into a shit football season, great if you like tables

  • 77 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Ibiza
    I saw you described as a sensible poster the other day
    Sent chills down my back!!! ;)

  • 78 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Ibiza…I sure did – I if I might add I think I have been a good boy this year (look at the present I got yesterday :D )

    …that was the gift of the year lol

  • 79 JackButler // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    jesper

    Ashley has again alienated himself from the fans with his petty actions……………..for a successful billionaire businessman he’s doesn’t seem to be that bright

  • 80 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Tads..Say what now? What loon said that? :)

    Jesper..Absolutely…a very good boy. Not sure I’m as deserving of a similar gift later this month.

  • 81 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Ibiza…on the car talk we had the other day (when you though I was making a joke on your expense…and I probably was)…was testdriving a Seat Ibiza ST the other day :D

    …that is just a car made for you mate (it has to be lol)

  • 82 wolfshead@toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    catchy

    i know its a cliche but football is a results driven business

  • 83 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Ibiza…we will bring down Norwich or you know why ;)

  • 84 Belfast // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    I’d stick a 100 pound on it being ketsbia who said Ibiza was a sensible poster. Probably late at night when the medication had wore off.

  • 85 JackButler // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    This HBA argument is funny to be honest as if he was half as good as some people think he is, or make him out to be then he’d be playing for Barca or Madrid.

    One performance in 12 doesn’t make you world class

  • 86 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    JB…I most admit I do fear he won’t leave unless it’s with his dignity intact….how do we do that? :D lol

  • 87 wolfshead@toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    jesper

    a seat would rusty pretty quickly in your part of the world wouldnt it? lol

  • 88 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Belfast

    did he follow it up by saying , we should sign messi, from Madrid, Ronaldo from barca, and maybe zidan could pull his boots back on for us

    yeh yeh,, I know who they play for

  • 89 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Jesper…Never been in a Seat Ibiza…see lots about though strangely enough.

    Belfast…If it was Kets I’d take it as serious praise indeed :)

  • 90 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    JB…be fair ;) how many of our players have earned them self a place among any of the big team playing for us lately?

  • 91 martoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    toonarmydownsouth @64 – I love the comment from obviously a Spurs supporter – saying we were non-existent in the second half was slightly harsh we did have some breakaways chances.

  • 92 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    wolf…we ended up buying a Renault Clio St instead ;)

    …no way am I going to have a car named Ibiza…it’s enough with the falla on this blog lol

  • 93 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Jesper…No need to be hurtful. We all know the only reason you test drove one in the first place was to feel closer to me.

  • 94 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    wolfshead@toon

    I fully understand that,,

    but we are not stoke, full of journeymen , we have a lot of quality in our squad,

    as LR32 put it this morning, why let a learner drive a Ferrari, he wont get the best out of it, sure he could keep it on the road, but he will never see what it can really do,,

    and like I said (many times now)

    there wasn’t many id swap from ours and spurs team, 2 players

  • 95 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    martoon…Krul was indeed very existent!

    …the stats showcased after the game were a bit frighting…at least in my book.

  • 96 PUMMELLER // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Jamiemac / Martoon

    you guys get it! well done on that!

    if we lose to Sunderland, have a moan, you have the right.
    if we beat chelsea and tottenham, both with clean sheets and you are moaning, then you aint a fan..you just aint…you are a tw*t

    also , people saying yesterday its only cos our keeper played so well that we won??! – he is part of our team and one of our only genuine world class players, too right he should win us some game.
    Schmeichel won Man Utd titles ffs.

  • 97 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Ibiza…yeah you are probably right ;)

    …speaking of which – you never showed up on Saturday. And I had carved the Duck and everything!

  • 98 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Ashley is past the point of pretending to be a loyal servant to the toon fans opinion now,he couldn’t care less if he alienates himself or not as long as the finances are heading in the right direction now and look to be improving steadily in the future he would advertise himself as the frickin blob from outer space. I’ve given up on him changing into a lovable john hall or laughable freddy sheppard a long time ago. he’s no toon fan & if the love like we have for our gr8 club ain’t there even though we try to put it there, then lets just leave him to it because we won’t get him out without finding a new big money man woman or syndicate.

  • 99 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Ok, some middle ground thinking might be needed here…

    The very fact we have beaten both Chelsea and Spurs, keeping clean sheets in both, is fantastic.

    The pressure we came under yesterday in that second half was worrying, of course, but we did manage to stay resilient through hard work and some luck.

    The consistency issue is still there, but at least we’ve shown, again, that we can dig in and fight when needed and that’s half the battle.

    Should the last few games drastically alter peoples opinions on the owner or manager? Not really, it’s a couple of games.

    But still, it’s been a good week and we have something we can build on. Let’s see if we do.

  • 100 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Martoon
    Actually had a look at a spurs blog yesterday and they were being more complimentary about our performance than some on here !!
    Was funny reading them all calling for AVB to sacked, footy fans aren’t so different at different clubs ;)

  • 101 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Jesper…My car broke down ;)

  • 102 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    PUMMELLER

    well I think you need to have a little re think

    krul is a great shot stopper, one of the best in the world,, but, world class keeper he isn’t, I could list a number of keppers in the prem alone who can kick the ball better than him
    if he wants to be a total world class keeper, he needs to work on that part of his game, yesterday that was almost chriminal how many times he kicked it out

  • 103 JackButler // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    catchy

    How can you say that about Krul then advocate HBA starting for us???

  • 104 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Ibiza
    You have a car?
    I assumed you travelled round Ibiza on black and white unicorn
    I can feel all my hopes and dreams crumbling

  • 105 martoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    toonarmydownsouth @ 100 – That’s football fans – if we lose to Norwich we’ll all be calling for Pardew’s head (no change there :) ).Seriously while I think AVB is a good coach I think he is a poor manager. e.g. with the goalkeeper with concussion he should have stepped in and said ” you can’t play on” but he just stood and watched.

  • 106 Ibizatoon // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    tads…Of course that’s how I travel about, it’s just if I say that my Unicorn has worms people get all weird about it.

  • 107 north east lincs toon // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Anybody know why highlights was’nt on MOTD

  • 108 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Ibiza…what was it you were driving again?

    …do you even need a car on Ibiza ;) it’s like 500 km²

  • 109 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Catchy at 76

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/statistical-analysis-of-hatem-ben-arfa-first-name-on-team-sheet/
    Thoght I would take a break from table watching and share this with you

  • 110 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    tequila

    I have never knocked any of those players that are in the article,
    but when you look at it properly, one person is nocking them, pardew,
    all but cabaye don’t get regular games, and cabaye is played to deep to truly get the best out of him

    I also think HBA is not in the right position for us when he does play, for long periods he is stared of the ball out on the right side

  • 111 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    tequila…what will the purpose of those stats be? What conclusion can you really draw from them?

  • 112 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    JackButler

    im not knocking TK, he needs to work on that part of his game,,
    amazing shot stopper, crap at kicking

  • 113 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    Really kruls a criminal for kicking the ball into touch twice? I don’t think so, however he is terrible at finding our men off goalkicks and when he kicks up field from his hands (is there a simple term for the later i don’t know?) Why doesn’t he just throw it our play the simple pass to a player that will distribute the ball in the correct manner? Its similar yet different to the cisse hold up play observation in the fact that its easy to teach cisse those skills now but kruls been working at these kicks from day 1 and he ain’t got the hang of it. so in short why not let tim hoy it or pass it to a more accomplished and accurate a passer to achieve our desired result?

  • 114 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    catchy , HBA would never have won that ball that led to the goal the way Gouffran did.

  • 115 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    The purpose of the stats illustrates that whilst he is our mostvexciting player he is not that effective, certainly not winning loads of games single-handed the way you were suggesting

  • 116 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    tequila

    and goofy would not have walked though the Blackburn or Bolton teams like HBA did,,

    they both have strengths to there games

  • 117 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    tequilamag

    not all, but a fair few of our games are won by indervidual performances,,

    yesterday it was krul

    I have never seen goofy win a game for us,

    ( don’t get me wrong, I like goofy, and he would be in my team)

  • 118 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Gouffran may not have HBA skills but he scores and makes more.

  • 119 DokToon // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    gmornign all,

    i will say that sundays game was awesome, got a lead, and hung in there to win.. im suprised to see no one complaing about only getting three points from it… lol… amazed how anyone can be negative about the last three games… now to see if we can carry the momentum to nowich and swansea… and make a serious push upwards…

    HWTL!

  • 120 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    tequila…if that was an answer to me might start with getting the facts straight – I did not say at any point that Benny was winning us games singlehandedly!

    So if the stats are suggesting Benny is not that effective in the games he has played, then what do you suggest we do? What does the stats say? ;)

  • 121 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Catchy that makes no sense, of course games are won by individual skills that is what they are employed to do. You still need a good team ethic and the recent games against liverpool Man C Chelsea and Spurs show we have that, If HBA had to be moved aside to achieve that then so be it.

  • 122 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Jesper I have not addessed any posts to you I was having a discussion with Catchy.

  • 123 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    My preference is goufs mix of d.efending/tracking back, ball winning, running at players when he can, passing when he should, playing the defence splitting through ball when opportunity knocks and scoring with his head and both feet

  • 124 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Dok…stay of the Xanax will you ;)

  • 125 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Somebody mentioned that HBA is in the last year of his contract this summer, personally I don’t think he’ll be offered a new contract or sign one if he is, it will be interesting to see how much another team is willing to pay for him.

  • 126 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    tequila…sorry that one answer seem to be addressed in term of answer (not name) to me since Catchy did not ask you what the purpose of those stats were I did!

    …My bad!

  • 127 tequilamag // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    JFA 10 mill tops.

  • 128 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Benny contract runs out in 2015 – if he wants to get his career back on track he probably should look for a transfer next sumer!

    …10 Mil sounds about right (probably the most we will get for any of our players any way)

  • 129 DokToon // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    jesper,

    thanks for the advice… just cant see why theres any negativity here, we had two clean sheets against two top prem teams… so i thought id whine about something :)

  • 130 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    *Benny’s

  • 131 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Dok…it is not negativity all around, but a good result is one thing and a good performance is another thing :)

    …that distinction is just being made. Doesn’t mean anyone is trying to take away anyones good feeling. Everyone are happy about the points mate ;)

  • 132 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Continued from my last post hba has his own amazing super skills himself don’t get me wrong but of late those skills are back firing on him and the toon that’s why even old donkeyobi is being picked ahead of him. he does try to track back but his heart isn’t in it & as an obvious result he’s pap at it.

  • 133 toon kk // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    First of all great result for us yesterday, we put a great first half in.
    Then along came the second half, thank god for Crul, just shows we need to strengthen we were ripped apart all over the pitch.
    But still great results from our last two games.

  • 134 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Last year of his contract, he won’t be at the WC I thinm he’ll go for 6M.

  • 135 Newcastle for alltid // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    I haven`t read any of the ongoing discussion here, but I just wanted to have my say on how things, for me, look at the moment.

    First of all, the last two games have been great. 6 points from games against Chelsea and Spurs are too much to ask for really, and the kind of stuff that makes me think that we can actually, at our best, push for the top 6. Then again, is there any point in doing that, if us going to Europe will only expose our lack of depth and make us fight relegation? I wanna see us go as high up the table as possible, but the ambition must be there. That being said, we do have more depth now than we did a year ago.

    The game against Chelsea was great. I think we really deserved that one. Coming at them second half, we looked like we would win. Yesterday against Tottenham was different. A result beyond expectations of course, and in the first 30 minutes we showed aggressivity and willingness to pass the ball along the ground. We aren`t hoofing anymore, which is great. That being said, we could have lost 1-5 yesterday. We let them control too much of the game, especially in the second half. They play great football, and we should have done more to choke their play. The key was when they replaced Sigurdsson with Defoe and lost some of their link-up play. A lucky win – but vital.

    Then on to some of the players. It`s sad to see him on the bench. He is the best offensive individual we have. The problem is that he has to be used in a position where he can stay up front, and not have any defensive duties. I think he`s showed his best play for us as a winger in a 4-3-3 system, where he gets the ball high up in the pitch and can finish attacks. His backtracking in that position isn`t so important, as other players can cover him defensively. If he`s used out wide in a 4-4-2 he gets the ball deeper, and is more likely to lose the ball in dangerous areas. He is also asked to backtrack more in that positon.
    I can see the idea behind Pardew using him as a false 9, as this leaves him up front, allowing other players to backtrack – who does it better than him. I know a lot of people want to see him behind the striker. And I agree – that is probably his best positon. But then again, do we have a strong enough team overall to let him have that free role without backtracking too much? The last two matches really show how much we depend on hard work to cover ground, breaking up other teams play.

    Now over to Sissoko. He is not a 4-3-3 wide man. But I catually like him out wide in a 4-4-2. He is fast and works hard. He might be a bright CM-prospect, but I find him too clumsy on the ball and passing it way to badly when playing as box-to-box, where safe passing really is essential. It`s easy to slate Pardew on this, playing him our of position. But for me, he isn`t yet convincing enough in the centre.

  • 136 Newcastle for alltid // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Oh, my first player comment is on Ben Arfa, forgot to mention his name :)

  • 137 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    It’s about supply and demand and if there is a demand for him his price will go up!

    …not every team play like we do!

  • 138 Yohan Kebab // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    got to think that if benny goes to another club hes gonna absolutely tear it up. unfortunately doesnt look like he has a place in our new found TEAM where everybody works for each other.

    upgrades on shola and willo and we will be set, need some physicality in the team

  • 139 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Yohan…I would agree about that!

  • 140 Jail for Ashley // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Yohan,
    I think I said this to you before, I think I’d rather STaylor upgraded than Willo, I don’t think he’s played more than 20 games for about the last four seasons, but knowing Ashley we’ll just get by with what we’ve got and hope Good and Streete are up to it.

  • 141 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Newcastle for alltid…på mange måder lige mine ord ;)

    …great post mate!

  • 142 DokToon // Nov 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    understood jesper, i thank you for your explanation to a yank that needs help :)

  • 143 PUMMELLER // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    as for all you Ben Arfa lovers, watch Gouffran performances, analyse his performances and tell me Gouffran aint twice the player Ben Arfa is .. mainly down to effort!
    i love Ben Arfas goals cos he has that in his locker.
    barring the spectacular his locker is empty at the moment. he doesnt in any way warrant a starting place!!

  • 144 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Dok…I don’t want to be condescending or anything- hope it didn’t come out that way? :D

    …but for a Dane the tone on here got to an unbearable point last night. Like Ibiza said, maybe a middle ground is in order?

  • 145 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Newcastle for alltid

    very good post,, well thought out, well written

    where are you hiding ?

  • 146 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    So by next august we will still need 2 cb’s and 2 forwards as it looks likely colo is going home and remy will be at the highest bidders club no disrespect meant by this to remy or qpr. I wonder. if we could get greizman from sociadad for pennies he’s never looked bad when I’ve seen him and he’s been on tv a lot lately.

  • 147 Yohan Kebab // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    just thinking, we embedded cabaye into the france first team, and we have got loic back there

    if we can get mbiwa back in and nail down sissokos spot, aswell as keeping debuchy in, why should any of them want to leave?

    if the clubs ambition matches the players and we start to rise higher then we could be on to something good.

    however if we let them leave we are back to square one

    theres only one loser at the moment and that is ben arfa

  • 148 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    The simple reason Ben Arfa is not in the team is because he doesn’t deserve to be
    His performances have been tailing off all season and he doesn’t have the never say die attitude the rest of the team has
    When were flying it’s all very well aliviating yourself of defensive duties but when your having to dig deep graft and work hard to get a result Ben Arfa is not a player you want fighting alongside you

    We can all speculate how he’s best used, truth is it’s just that, speculation, because the position we use him in is the same position he’s played all his career, a winger
    Bigger and better managers have failed to get as much out of Ben Arfa as pardew has the lad is on his day brilliant, but those days are few and far between and he is certainly not suited to the current formation that’s working so well for us

  • 149 DokToon // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    jesper,

    im just happy to see us getting the points we would not have gotten last year, to me, that is progress… do we need a few more, of course, but i see the beer as half full, rather than half empty…

    and if youre quoting ibiza, maybe you need to put down the xanex lol :)

  • 150 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Dok…yeah I had that one coming didn’t I? lol

  • 151 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Dok…The realist says the glass contains half the required amount of liquid for it to overflow.

    …and the cynic… wonders who drank the other half. ;)

  • 152 catchy in norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    all 3 are good players worthy of a place in the team,

    and please bare in mind that HBA played as a loan striker with no support in 2 games,

    games started, goals , assists , shots,

    season 13/14

    goofy 11 2 2 16

    cabaye 9 2 1 26

    HBA 9 2 1 23

  • 153 Yohan Kebab // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    jfa

    very good point i would quite happily keep willo, when i said ‘upgrade’ i meant in terms of the starting XI

    however with colo leaving i fear next season it will be a case of

    new cb, mbiwa willo taylor

    where i would be more comfortable with another cb over taylor

  • 154 Yohan Kebab // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    worried though, if tim krul keeps up that form, barca are looking for a keeper, and juve need a long term buffon replacement!

  • 155 Yohan Kebab // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    gouffran is incredibly good as a lm for someone who has played for the last however many years as striker!

  • 156 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Wanna a hear an upgade to my song for remy project? no? Well tough shizle coz here comes my drivle.

    to tune of the french rhyme frera jaqua( a nar its probly spelt rang but hey ho)

    Loic remy, loic remy
    score a goal, score a goal
    we love you at the toon man,love you in our team man
    score a goal, score a goal. : D

  • 157 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Kebab
    Don’t worry mate krul is geordie!
    And yeah have to echo Jail, for me we should keep willo and look replace Taylor who is simply not dependable for a whole season
    Think we already have colo’s replacement

  • 158 cyprus // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    JB,
    So if HBA was as good as some of us think he is he’d be playing for Real… Reminds me of Groucho Marx:

    Groucho Marx’s (HBA’s) letter of resignation to the Friars’ (NUFC) Club: “I don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.”

  • 159 geordie@bergen_norway // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    6 impressive points against Chelsea and Spurs.
    Our next two games are at home against Norwich and West Brom.

    Those games are the real tests for us, as we are expecting 3 points from each of them.

    Only when we start to win games we are expected to win, we are able to see our position in the league.
    HWTL!

  • 160 LEROI // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Like or detest my rhyme any 1? Any 1 want to improve it post improvment at will peeps

  • 161 Yohan Kebab // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    unfortunately for us hba only seems to perform against lesser teams. i would definitely give him a run out the next two games if its tight, see if hes still hungry

  • 162 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Yohan
    Looking at his conditioning, asking him if he’s still hungry might not be a great idea!

  • 163 Bambams // Nov 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Chaps.
    Can anyone assist me, i am comparing a talk-in for Steve Harper and Kevin Carr this Wed. i have checked the internet for all their appearences but cannot find out how many goals they have each conceded.
    Anyone know any websites that show the history of how many goals keepers concede.

  • 164 DokToon // Nov 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    all good jesper, were giddy as a schoolgirl with these two wins, but geordie says it perfectly, we need to win the games we are expected to win…




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