Most of the lads will be training over the next week and getting ready for the next test for Newcastle, which is a home game against Norwich City, and since that’s a game we should win – it could be a banana skin.
Chris Hughton – coming back to Newcastle on November 23rd
With the last two great results, St. James’ Park should be packed full a week on Saturday, and of course it’s important a sold-out crowd can roar on the lads to victory, and that’s exactly what happened against Chelsea.
Cheick Tiote is suspended from the second leg of the Ivory Coast World Cup play-off tie against Senegal,and he’s stayed behind in Newcastle, and the vice-captain seems glad of the rest:
“I think it’s important to have a little break because we don’t want to think now everything is easy,” “It’s important to have a one-week break and then when we come back we can focus again.”
“We need to keep the momentum we have built in the last couple of weeks.” “We just need to carry on doing the same things. Not many teams can come to White Hart Lane and win.”
“It shows the result against Chelsea wasn’t a one-off and if we continue to do the same thing every week we will have a chance to win.” I cannot say we are going to finish fourth and fifth.”
“It’s too early. We just have to try to do everything we did in the last two games and we will have a chance of winning more games.”
The Norwich game is very like when we played Hull City, because in the previous four games before Hull, we had drawn with West Ham, and then won three in a row against Fulham, Morecambe and Aston Villa, and we should be able to beat Hull City – yeah sure.
But we didn’t, and the amazing thing happened and we managed to give three poor goals away and lost the game 3-2, and in 11 games Hull have scored only 9 goals – and three of those came against Newcastle away. 🙁
So this is why we think games like Norwich are the acid test for this Newcastle side, because the lads can always get up for a Chelsea or a Tottenham – but how about a Norwich City?
It’s an area Newcastle have to get much better at – and become more consistent at – and beating Norwich will be a step towards that much sought after consistency.
What do you think?
Comments welcome.
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68 comments so far
John Tudor
Nov 13, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Comment #41jfa try avg
Jail for Ashley
Nov 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Comment #42JT,
Cheers I’ll let you know how I get on
ToonDarnSarf
Nov 14, 2013 at 12:29 AM
Comment #43So Derby County have renamed Pride Park. I said it was only a matter of time before clubs did this. Ok, they’ve only had the name for 16 years, but I think we’ll see this more and more.
Money is more important than history in the real world…
Ciaran
Nov 14, 2013 at 12:32 AM
Comment #44Self satisfying prick.
MacToon
Nov 14, 2013 at 1:02 AM
Comment #45😆
Mister Tuff
Nov 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM
Comment #46Very good article in the Mail by Martin Keown about the future of English football -well worth a read.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2506550/Blueprint-rescue-English-football–Martin-Keown.html
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 6:04 AM
Comment #47TDS,
Difference with Derby and Newcastle, firstly as you rightly pointed out they have had this for 16 years, not since the 1880’s when the club was still Newcastle West. It is a new build stadium, of the same ilk as many of the new builds that have already sold naming right.
They have discussed this with fans and fans groups for the last 10 months, not just announced it as done as NUFC did.
NUFC received zip from Mike Ashley for the renaming. Derby have a deal which sees them receive actual real money for it.
£7million over 10 years for Derby, you describe similar sums of advertising revenue for boards around the ground as not worth the club doing, so why would renaming the stadium be worth doing for us?
Currently Wonga pay between £6mill and £8mill for shirts, training kit AND the stadium. Virgin paid a similar amount for just the kit and training. Good business work by those at the top of this club?
All in all, just cause Derby did it does not make it the right thing to do for NUFC. Particularly at the sums that we have been told are involved.
Going back to yesterday, those players who have featured for our academy since promotion include Dummett, Ferg, Newton, Ameobi, Vuckic, basically anyone who was 22 or under during August this year. So yes, the figure is relevant.
jimmysmith
Nov 14, 2013 at 6:43 AM
Comment #48Well, was moving to Pride Park such a good idea for Derby in the first place, from almost any perspective, rather than redevelop the wonderfully named and deeply community entrenched “Baseball Ground”.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 6:47 AM
Comment #49Anyone here make it to the meeting at the Irish club last night. How did it go, anything interesting come up?
Jail for Ashley
Nov 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM
Comment #50Lilo,
Don’t expect a reply after you have just shot his reasoned, balanced and neutral view out of the water, I think he must be feeling very unlucky after the rest of his family pulled Chelsea, City and Man U out of the hat before he got left with us, he claims we needed massive investment that summer we finished fifth, when I pointed out we didn’t he agreed with me, but then said we could have never managed top six, he simply is not a fan of our people or club.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 6:53 AM
Comment #51Jimmy,
I think it i always a tough call on moving stadiums. Don’t know enough about the precursors to the move to say if that was the right decision. Could they have improved and developed the Baseball Ground, or were there restrictions on it?
Pride Park is based around a business park, so maybe the increased corporate revenue was seen as the main driver. As I said, don’t know enough to comment on it really.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 14, 2013 at 6:54 AM
Comment #52Lilo,
If your on about the fans meeting, apart from raising a few issues about getting plaques put up, they’re a waste of time, when you’ve got a young PR expert telling forty odd men and women who’ve supported the club for years that we spent 30M in January which made us the top sixth highest spenders last year, you know your never going to get the truth out of them.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:11 AM
Comment #53Jail,
Ha, I thought I would put it out there anyway.
Whether I get a response or not, hopefully others will read it and realise that what Derby do with their new build ground really it isn’t that relevant to NUFC at all.
Renaming new builds is nowt new. Pride Park was based on The Riverside or as it was at one point the BT Cellnet Riverside Stadium. Renaming established stadiums, one which has been used by the Newcastle West End branch of the club since 1882 is a very different matter – particularly for zero monies. I’m sure it was just coincidence that it was renamed 6 months prior to an Olympic Games and potential global exposure….. Thank you IOC and City Council for not being bullied into it.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM
Comment #54Jail,
Yeah, it was a fans meeting at the Irish Club, not sure who from the club was there.
I agree, very little of any substance comes from these sorts of things normally. I sent my question off regardless regarding the low quality coaching set up at the club – I did a bit of research last week while the Mrs was away and discovered that our coaching set up is the lowest qualified in the Premier league. I wanted to know why.
Didn’t really need an answer, I guess the reason will be cost, but would have liked to know their public response.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM
Comment #55Lilo,
It’s a sore point with a lot of fans, even bills wasn’t happy about it, had we announced some international company were going to pay us an absolute fortune for it, it might have made the decision a little easier to take, all it done was allowed other fans to give us a ribbing and landed us with w@nga.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:29 AM
Comment #56Jail,
Yeah, I can see the sense in making money by selling naming rights. But at the same time doing it for zip, or for very little money doesn’t sit well with me. I even said at the time that if they had “showcased” it using something like the Bobby Robson foundation instead of SD, then doing it for nothing wouldn’t have seemed as bad.
In the end it has sort of worked itself out I guess, but I suppose Wonga could rename it at anytime as part of the deal…..
geordieboy83
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM
Comment #57LILO and JFA
Morning lads, I’m not saying thus to start a Pardew bashing lol but do you think it could in part be down to Pardews arrogance, as to why we have such lowly qualified coaches? You look at Fulham who have just taken mulensteen as head coach , I think we missed a trick with that one. But couldn’t see Pardew wanting somebody stepping on his toes.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:42 AM
Comment #58Geordieboy,
I think Meulensteen’s appointment will lead to Jol leaving soon. So in a way, yes, I definitely don’t think Pards would agree to that sort of person being brought in in that role. But Pards spoke of new ideas and freshening things up over the summer, so I don’t think he would be averse to having new staff come in.
He also spent a fair amount of his time travelling round European clubs while unemployed watching training and learning, so I think he realises he can improve, and isn’t that arrogant that he thinks he is the complete article.
We are playing better passing football, so in that sense he has improved, but his mentality is to set up not to be beaten. Mentality and instinct are much harder thing to change.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Comment #59Gb 83,
It would be interesting to see Mullerstein and John Carvers payslips.
geordieboy83
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:49 AM
Comment #60LILO
Ah I see that’s cool, I didn’t remember him saying that to be fair. Yeah I do believe he is slowly but surely trying to develop his coaching methods but I do think it’s hard with carver and stone who are as old fashioned as they come
Onwards and upwards hopefully but I do feel we need an extra technical coach.
With the name change, I agree derby us irrelevant as pride park isn’t engrained in their history.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Comment #61Geordieboy,
It doesn’t stop with Carver and Stone though. WE have Kevin Richardson and Dave Watson slightly lower down as well.
We definitely need to improve the coaching set up, be that by promoting some of the younger talented coaches, or by bringing in new staff.
I’d love to see someone like Gary White or Paul Clement come in and oversee the technical development of players and coaches and someone like Dario Gradi in to replace Kinnear to review the entire football set up.
Ibizatoon
Nov 14, 2013 at 7:58 AM
Comment #62Morning all…
Jail…Did you manage to get those ad’s blocked on your Android?
Not sure if this will help you, it seems more about settings than downloading something new…but who knows for sure.
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-the-Android-Browser-to-Block-Popups
TDSarf…Had a chance to review the link about NUST being banned from the fans forum?
Jail for Ashley
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:01 AM
Comment #63Ibiza,
Thanks for asking but no I didnt, it’s becoming a real pain.
Ibizatoon
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Comment #64Jail…Well that seemed to work for someone I work with who was having similar problems.
I am yet to experience the problem, but hardly use my phone for internet really – but also have those settings in place. Give it a go.
Ibizatoon
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:07 AM
Comment #65Just reading an article ( a few days old now) about this NUST ban situation.
Noticed this in the comments section…
“Finally, Spurs are not owned by sporting goods salesman. They don’t have anything to sell except advertising space. The owner of Newcastle is also the owner of Sports Direct and wants to maximise the profits of both businesses. Advertising space at a Premier League football ground is expensive so you can hardly blame him for maximising that asset. If someone else wanted to pay more for that advertising space than it is worth to Sports Direct and Ashley, he is a businessman and he would sell the space. But there’s no sense in leaving it empty, and there’s no point in selling it for less than it is worth.”
No point in selling it for less than it is worth? So, just give it away for free instead?
Do I need another coffee?
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CD8QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chroniclelive.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ffootball-news%2Fnewcastle-united-supporters-trust-open-6275298&ei=O4KEUsK5Kcqe0wWE6YH4AQ&usg=AFQjCNEPGb4p-9Fe6yG2q7iINQx9i38FiQ&bvm=bv.56343320,d.d2k
Santon03
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:08 AM
Comment #66We are missing Debuchy, the best candidate for his replacement will be Anita regarless pardew using the same formation or not. I don’t think HBA will be the right player for the team right now. I’m not saying that he is bad for the team, but what we need right now is 11 hardworking heavy duty players vs 11 Norwich players or any other teams. HBA maybe good for subs or in certain situation but not from the start unless he is ready to do hardwork. HBA being benched and watching the team play could be good for him, so he can learn that we can’t rely on magic alone to win, we need to work hard as a team, defend as a team attack as a team, with hardwork we have more chances to win even without magic skills.
I hope he learned, I hope to see hardworking skillful HBA (new and improved version).
geordieboy83
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:37 AM
Comment #67LILO
Dario gradi is a hell of a shout I’ve respected that bloke for many a year. Whether it be director of footy or a link between youth and adults he would be superb. Yeah I see the problems do run deep with the coaching, if you think of how many former players could perhaps do a job, rob lee, srnicek, ginola people like that would surely be worth a little gamble then tgere are former worldwide players, Marcelo salas, etc who could possibly add something along with an established coach. Can’t say if they’d be any good but gotta be worth a go.
Santon03
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Comment #68Jail & Ibiza
I don’t think you block or erase those pop up ads. It is within the apps that you downloaded. I have tried everything, it is useless.