Newcastle Could Bring In Second Striker On Loan


In the summer of last year our number one striker target was Luuk de Jong, who at that time was at FC Twente, and even though Newcastle put in a  bid of £10M, the Dutch International preferred to move to the Bundesliga with Borussia Monchengladbach, who paid out £12.8M for the player.

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Luuk de Jong – now at Borussia Monchengladbach

Fast forward to today and Luuk’s move has hardly been a success, and the 23 year-old has played only 38 times with 8 goals for the German club, and doesn’t seem to have played at all this season.

There were reports last season that he had fallen out with the coach there, Lucien Favre, but his five-year contract runs through June, 2017.

So it’s not surprising that Monchengladbach are now willing to loan the Dutch International striker out in January.

Newcastle will bring in a striker in January, and Bafe Gomis of Lyon is available for around £2M, as we reported yesterday, and he may our top choice.

Monchengladbach Director Hans Meyer had this to say in the German press:

“We will possibly Luuk at Christmas but definitely not to a competitor,” “Our head coach Lucien Favre has said from the start he didn’t have 100% confidence in De Jong filling the striker position but I think we’ll find a solution.”

At the time he joined Monchengladbach Luuk had said it was a dream come true for him to play for a top club in the German League

The truth is that Luuk has not been a success in Germany, and it may be within his best interests to  move on loan to another club asap, but since he turned Newcastle down once, we’re not sure whether Newcastle will still be interested in this player.

Luuk says he’s willing to fight for his place at the German club:

“I want to play for Borussia, that’s my goal. If the team needs me, I’m ready.” “Things can move fast when a player is injured or suspended.”  “Then I have to be ready and take my chances.”

But with Lucien Favre not a fan of the 7 times capped Dutch International, he may be more willing to move out on loan if he still gets no playing time in Germany by the time January rolls around..

We’re not sure if Newcastle will be interested in de Jong, but of course there’s a precedent for the Tyneside club bringing in somebody on loan, who had earlier rejected a permanent move to Newcastle.

His name is Loic Remy, and he’s been simply tremendous for Newcastle, so far this season.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Ian Begg is a reader who recently found out that his Mom was very ill, and he has to return to Australia. Ian has a Platinum Club season ticket that has £700 left on it, and he is willing to sell it for £550 or a best offer.

Please see if you can help Ian out, and you can contact him by email at ian_s_begg@hotmail.com – thanks.

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41 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 14, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #1

    Codswallop.

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Nov 14, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #2

    Would have loved him last season but he did not join us bit like Remy last year would be typical Newcastle if we got him and Remy on loan and they totally smashed defences till the end of the season before going to another club ….

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  • north east lincs toon

    Nov 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #3

    Bollocks

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Comment #4

    iv’e just heard that Messi and C.Ronaldo are in talks with JFK

    what! can’t i say sh!t as well. 😉

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #5

    I’m sure he’d love to play on the wing here for half a season like Cisse and be on the end on non-existent service.

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #6

    i wonder who we are linked with next week? i was thinking Ibramovic or maybe Falcao?

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #7

    Laurent Robert 32

    what, ya kidding mate, on the wing? we all know Luuk is a defender 😉

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #8

    ( breaking news )

    Joe Kinnear has been in talks with Monchengladbach for a swap deal with Luuk de Jong making way for Mart Te Stegan exclusive interview in tomorrows Chronicle.

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  • pottsclock

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #9

    Hold on lads….non-existent service from the wings?

    You’re forgetting Eds earlier article that we’re also getting Zaha on loan from ManU !

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #10

    B and W with an army, yeah, most of them are defenders now 😉

    What am I saying, Alan says he always plays on the front foot.

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  • lesh

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #11

    De Jong out on loan ” but definitely not to a competitor”.

    That’s it, we’re part way there. I wonder how long it’d take Kinnear to convince his club that we’d fit the non-competitor criterion? Thirty seconds should do it!

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  • jimmysmith

    Nov 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #12

    Seems to me having a core of top players and bringing in top loans such as Remy or Zaha to finish the squad if you can’t manage to get the quality over the line on a permanent basis isn’t such bad business at all.

    I’m not sure signing Tom Ince to a permanent contract is gonna bear fruit, but I’m more confident Wilfred Zaha could do a job for us for example, and if not, Man U can have him back.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #13

    Ya right Jimmy, I don’t think anyone would have minded Obertan on loan for three months in the pre season of 2011.

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  • Blofal

    Nov 14, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #14

    I hear a lot on this blog about players people are shooting down as not good enough… I dont follow the rest of Europe very closely (cos I cant watch it in Australia) but can you guys pls make me aware of any young strikers out there that we should be after?

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Nov 14, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #15

    If we had to field a team purely from players who came through our youth team:
    Krul
    Orr
    Dummett
    Saylor
    Hughes
    Sammy
    Fergie
    Vuckic
    Troisi
    Shola
    Carroll

    SUBS
    Forster
    Chopra
    Edgar
    Ramage
    Armstrong
    Good
    Campbell

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  • Ciaran

    Nov 15, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Comment #16

    I wonder if he’s using this as an example of how wonderful our Academy is? If so he isn’t doing a great job as that team would be tanked by most clubs in the PL.

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  • Rooster

    Nov 15, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Comment #17

    Yes, loan signings, saves fortunes on transfer fees, ship em in ship em out, its good business for MA but we will be watching Remy playing for someone else next season while mike spins the wheel again, this type of business may suit him till he sells up, because he isn’t going to put another copper coin of his own money in to the club, we still will be paying him back his loan in what I reckon will be bigger lumpers owt left over will pay for the odd signing and his beloved wages hes always banging on about! hes trying to wing it in to the top eight, hope we don’t use too much of our luck up to early in the season, because we have had a massive slice so far, Sundys result would happen imo once in every 20 games.

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  • Blofal

    Nov 15, 2013 at 3:07 AM

    Comment #18

    I have heard that MA gets pissed off when burned in a business deal. I think missing out on signing Remy then taking him on loan and seeing how the team is transformed has now lead to him knowing what a big miss that was. Further compounded by the definate fact we will lose him at the end of the loan period, I wouldnt be surprised if that spurs him into being a little more ambitious in the future. Thats the logical conclusion. .. whether it happens we will see.

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  • lesh

    Nov 15, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    Comment #19

    Black and White with an army lol @8

    ?

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  • John Tudor

    Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #20

    joe said he spotted another top striker L. Krands said he thought the young lad was top notch and gonna go far

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 15, 2013 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #21

    hmmm

    little bit confused

    did nufc bring forward the transfer activity to jan 2013 or postpone it from the summer of 2012 ???

    seems with time you can distort facts

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 15, 2013 at 7:25 AM

    Comment #22

    Catchy,
    I’d say that is probably a bit of both. Given we were told we had definitely bid for 2 of those signed earlier and 2 were going to be out of contract so brought forward (although had we got Remy I doubt Goofy would have been signed). Haidara could be seen as a Jan purchase before others became interested.

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 15, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    Comment #23

    Lilongwe Geordie

    I was thinking it was more about panic buying in jan, getting more numbers in, as they admitted they under cooked it,
    I think it would have been more believable if they had of came out in jan after they had bought all those players and said something like, this is for what we should have bought in the summer but also , I think we did our shopping for summer 2013 because with the new deal , prices will be inflated,
    would have sat a lot better with the fans, and other clubs would have said they had missed that one,

    OC the summer would have came, and maybe a small addition could have been added, but it would not have looked like we were trying to fool the fans,

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  • Santon03

    Nov 15, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Comment #24

    Most likely target that we are going to get are Toivonen permanent and Vucinic on loan. I don’t think we will get Gomis, we already agreed on the fee, but the agents wanted more last time, I don’t think things will change.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 15, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    Comment #25

    Rooster,
    Welcome to the club, the one yiu just left has about three members left, one of which has never even been to SJP and the other hasn’t even been to England unless on a school trip with a bunch of rowdy Italian kids.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 15, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #26

    Catchy,
    Yeah, there was obviously an element of buying cause of our position. I’m not sure panic buying is strictly true, as we had spent time tracking most of them. I agree on the communication part as well. They seem to continually shoot themselves in the foot with things like this!

    Santon,
    On Gomis, the fact the fee is lower, and he is almost out of contract will probably lead to his agents and Gomis expecting larger cash payments. So I’d say Gomis is unlikely.

    Have absolutely no interest in Toivonen, and as I have said before only really want a permanent signing, unless the deal is all agreed in terms of fee, contract and if he scores x amount of goals or plays x amount of games the deal kicks in automatically.

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  • Charlietoon

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #27

    OMG an article that is not about the fact Loic Remy is having a good season and therefore is less likely to stay with us next season. I am dead set gobsmacked.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #28

    Lilo,
    That’s what still bothers me and still now a year and a half later makes me angry, the fact that these players that had been tracked could have been bought in the summer, ok I think maybe Mbwia was waiting on CL outcome but Douglas could have been bought, bedded in then STaylor shipped out to W Brom or the ilk in January when Mbwia was signed, a very flawed way of conducting business, after all how much did we really save on Debuchy when you look at the bigger picture.

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  • bills-son

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #29

    Jail,

    On the Jan signings,

    The club have said they were lined up for the summer when their contracts were up/near up but were brought forward to Jan because of the league position.

    You and others say thats panic buying, I say its just plain common sense.

    Plus, you cant take away the fact that the club would have signed Remy as well in Jan.

    After the last window closed this blog was full of ‘we’ve got a woefully weak squad’ now most are saying we are just a couple of players short of a top six squad. Should we have signed those two players in the summer – absolutely. Does it mean the club is in crisis because we didn’t – not imo.

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  • bills-son

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Comment #30

    Jail,

    Why do you keep focusing on the negative aspects of our transfer policy?

    You make it sound as if the whole thing is an absolute disaster when we’ve actually signed a good squad of players at relatively bargain prices. Plus, this ‘every player has his price’ is totally spouted out of context – as Cabaye and Arsenal found out.

    You keep saying ‘we all know a player will be off as soon as Ashley’s price is met’. That depends what Ashley’s price is. If it was £12M for Cabaye he’d be away. But it wasnt – and he isn’t.

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  • Santon03

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM

    Comment #31

    Lilo

    I think these loan signings only for temporary until our youngsters are ready to take their spot. That is why we signed a lot of young players. It could be next season that players like Vuckic, Campbell, Fergie, etc. will be ready, if we signed too many senior players now that mean those youngsters can not progress or hopeless. If we didn’t sign too many players permanently that means there is good chance that these youngsters are good enough to be first team players next season. MA probably want repeat deals like AC, afterall it’s the best way to make money.

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  • Santon03

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #32

    Which one do we want to see most, players from our academy in the 1st team or buy senior players from abroad?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #33

    Bills,
    You of all people know becuse of this ridiculous way of doing business we missed relegation by the skin of our teeth, where as if the money was spent when it should have been ,we may well have won that dreaded Europa and finished in a respectable position in league.

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  • estechco

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #34

    “Joe, set up a deal for Luuk de Jong at Borussia Monchengladbach?”

    …what could possibly go wrong!

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  • Santon03

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #35

    There is also big possibility that we will sell many players when these youngsters are ready. Players that can’t make it into the 1st team like Obertan, Marveaux, Gosling or Cisse if he still can’t score until the end of season.

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  • Santon03

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #36

    Jail

    I don’t MA made any decisions during that time, it was Llambias and he was sacked because of it.
    When there is MD in charge, owner is not making any decision, that’s what MD is for.

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  • Santon03

    Nov 15, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #37

    I don’t think MA….*

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  • Quasimodo's tailor

    Nov 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #38

    We may have lost interest in Douglas because he wasn’t a good enough upgrade. The same goes for Van Wolfswinkel. Neither of them have exactly set the heather on fire. Let’s be honest chaps, we don’t know all that goes on in the boardroom. I suppose if we make enough guesses, one or two may eventually prove to be accurate. As for Ashley, I can’t stand the man, but I sure don’t let him dominate my life.

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Nov 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #39

    Remy was signed on loan because he has a COURT CASE pending, and all of a sudden, that is the new club policy?

    Considering the form that De Jong is currently in, it would be good business to strike a loan deal, with an agreement to buy if it goes well… actually, how could a deal like that truly get any better for Newcastle.

    In regards to Gomis, if we were willing to pay around 8 million for him only months ago, and he will be available for 2 million… tell me, why do you think Newcastle would offer him the same deal, if the club are saving 6 million on the previous offer. A saving of 6 million in transfer fees leave room for a contract offer improvement of 10k per week or more, EASILY.

    Those that say the club is a selling club, name me the last time we sold a player, purely for profit. (Apart from the deal of the century when we sold Carroll)

    The only player sales we have made in recent years have been because of players running down contracts, contract clauses, or demanding longer contracts than the club were willing to offer. None at all for profit.

    While we are not spending fortunes on players, to say the club has ”no ambition” is just an outright lie.

    Clubs that have no ambition do not keep their best players, nor do they scout out such good players.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Nov 16, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #40

    Can Jo pronounce his name properly ?

    Seriously though Luuk went to Boroussia when a move to us may have been a better optie for him !
    I smell a whiff of money and agents being involved here?
    And why are Boroussia not fielding him, the strength of the Geman Bundesliga may have something to do with the fact he,s not getting in the team? Not sure how quick he would adapt to the Prem or indeed if he would be such a good signing for us?

    In Holland he was a big star for Fc Twente but i feel he is just out to earn as much money as he can, like Remy?
    He would maybe use us as a stepping stone to another club?

    I could be wrong though?

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