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Newcastle Move Up To 8th – Above Tottenham

3:24 pm, Sunday, November 24th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 66 Comments

Manchester City hammered Tottenham 6-0 at the Etihad Stadium this afternoon, after scoring their first goal after only 13 seconds – the joint fastest of the Premier League season, along with  Stoke goalkeeper Asmir Begovic’s goal against Southampton.

Manuel Pellegrini

Manual Pellegrini - got Manchester City playing fabulous football – at home

After beating Norwich 7-0 in their last home outing they beat Tottenham 6-0 – so City are a different side at home than they are away from home – that’s for sure.

At the start of the game Tottenham were level with Newcastle on 20 points, but had a goal difference of +3 compared to Newcastle’s zero goal difference.

But now Newcastle move above Tottenham in the league table on goal difference, and having gained 6 points on Spurs in the last two games, after Newcastle beat Spurs 1-0 win at White Hart Lane last weekend.

Things are looking up for Newcastle United.

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66 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Cantbuyye // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    We stay 8th, City jumped us and Spurs dropped below us.

  • 2 Cool Hand Luke // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Anyone seen this?..

  • 3 theartfuldodger // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    ManCity showing what great finishing does to the scoreline.

  • 4 Cantbuyye // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    Changed the headline Ed? Naughty, naughty lol.

  • 5 Cool Hand Luke // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Transfer Sage, from last thread. Id love to hear the ref too, just like rugby, however some of the language from the players wouldn’t really be able to be filtered out for live broadcasting.

  • 6 Cantbuyye // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    @Cool hand luke

    That’s a good thing right?
    Hoping for 6th or 7th here.

  • 7 bills-son // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM


    You obviously can’t see sarcasm if it hits you in the face.

    My comment about City sitting back after 14 seconds was a pi$$take on Spurs having 65% of the play in the next 10 minutes.

    City scored 6 goals from 15 shots and 3 from 3 in the second half. Fantastic finishing but it doesn’t mean Spurs rolled over and gave in.

    So what that I got the final score wrong.

  • 8 croftus5678 // Nov 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    city was same against us tbh !

    imo we outplayed them and deserved a result however manc’s quality was far superior in front of goal and on the break.

    just something we will have to build on.

    this top10 bonus scheme is a great idea to motivate and think most of us was yearning for it for a long time.

    and from collo wanting to leave us ! well…i think most of us know his days are numbered and tbf i would prefer willo/mbiwa as our main defenders atm anyway and i just hope we either get another in or good comes through fast.

  • 9 ballerfan2 // Nov 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Maybe this finally puts our first day defeat into context. I have always maintained that City were awesome that day. Their inconsistency (Yes they have something in common with us apart from points) has rather disguised that fact, leading to all kinds of negativity since, from both media and our own fans who have regularly highlighted that game as a barometer of our lack of real quality. I wonder if Spurs will now take over that mantle. Probably not as they are one of the media darlings.

  • 10 MosesNUFC // Nov 24, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    This is what i want Newcastle to do v west brom, although i’m only expecting a 1niler. 4, 5 or even 6-0 would lift everyone’s confidence sky high.

  • 11 MosesNUFC // Nov 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    And yes, i would drop coloccini for the west brom game and bring back in debuchy. Colo’s head is obviously turned to the fact he just wants to leave. He’s getting on, and him and willo just won’t work any more as they have both become rather limited defenders, however m’biwa has got pace and is more of a ball playing defender and can keep up with the likes of torres etc.

  • 12 Mister Tuff // Nov 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    bills – I certainly wasn’t expecting any sarcasm or humour from you today in view of your usual “Mr Angry” persona.
    You sarcasm and the fact that you have not included your normal ” wail, wail, booohooo, booohoo you threatenend to give me a beating” routine -does suggest a step forward in your blogging. Keep it up my good man!.

  • 13 Harley // Nov 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    And spurs play Man U next week too.

  • 14 bills-son // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:09 PM


    Me MrAngry?

    You’ve got the wrong man.

  • 15 Cool Hand Luke // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    @Cantbuyye, i’m actually hoping for the same myself and I think its doable. Time will tell.

    @MosesNUFC id love to see a 4-0 or a 5-0 myself, but later on in the season. I don’t want the lads to start getting complacent like the last few games of the season before last when we had just won 6 on the trot. There are a lot of hard games still to play.

  • 16 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Apparently the Spurs 6-0 defeat Is their worst defeat since a 7-1 hammering at Newcastle almost 17 years ago.

    Mr Tuff- But for Cisse’s goal(sic) being wrongly ruled out for offside you would have correctly forecast the result. It’s the CUDDA, WUDDA, SHUDDA of being a football fan.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:17 PM


    simple…swearing is a red like non league football, problem solved.

  • 18 yo-yo // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    We all thought we’d get little from the recent fixtures aginst Fools Chelski and Spuds but the real test is the next few games with WBA then Swans and Manure away and Southampton at home. IMO if we get 7+ pts from these four games (min of win 2 draw 1) we will consolidate in the top ten just in time to lose to Palace :)

  • 19 lesh // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Does being above Sperz mean we’re a big club now?

  • 20 yo-yo // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Mr T

    I’m going to defend Bills here – Mr Angry is someone else. Bills might be a bit too onside with Mashley for my liking but he usually avoids the slagging matches that other posters seem to relish. And he is generally positive but maintaining a critical view on team performances

  • 21 theartfuldodger // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    manu cardiff 2-2

  • 22 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Manure look very very poor, good time to play them in all honesty

  • 23 yo-yo // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:56 PM


    Manure would have shut up shop if they were on form.
    If we show the same commitment as at Spuds we could get something from OT

  • 24 Cool Hand Luke // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Transfer Sage, that would be ideal, but I think in rugby it works because its easy to channel frustration by slamming into tackles. In football there’s no way to do that so the players are much more aggressive vocally. Id love to see it happen but it would take quite an adjustment from the players.

  • 25 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Our Xmas run in, predictions??

    30 Nov
    West Brom

    4 Dec
    Swansea City
    7 Dec

    Man United

    14 Dec

    21 Dec
    Crystal Palace

    26 Dec
    Stoke City

    29 Dec

  • 26 Big Pappa Cissé // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Man U are screwed without RVP & Rooney IMO .

  • 27 Cool Hand Luke // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Yo Yo, agreed, its the bananaskin games that make or break a season.

  • 28 USAGEORDIE // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    I’ve been watching this Jorghino lad from Hellas Verona. Plays CM and CAM, has 5 goals, and is only 21. Looks great in that fluid passing game. If we sell Cabaye he would be a very smart signing.

  • 29 // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Still need to do your Christmas shopping.

    Get all your presents sorting this evening –

    Use the discount code: ‘NUFCblog’ to get 10% Off too.

  • 30 ~Anita One Bites The Dust~ // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Ideally next week:

    Chelsea beat Southampton (likely)
    Spurs and United Draw (possible)
    We beat West Brom
    Stoke beat/Draw with Everton. (Probably asking too much)

    We could be 5th come end of next week.
    That being said… I’ve probably jinxed us now… when did we last win 4 in a row?

  • 31 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Yo yo
    It’s funny but the manure game is the one I fancy us to get something from the most!

    WBA are a bit of a bogey team for us so never dare predict the result of that game!
    Swansea depends on what Toon and what Swansea turn up! Swansea can be a tough place to go but there form is very up and down

    Manure I can defiantly see us getting at least a point, they look poor tbh and we always seem to turn up for the big games

    Southampton I’m not so confident on think we could lose that one, they look very solid at the back (apart from yesterday!) and counter very quickly!

    Palace lets be honest should rout them (bloody well better I’m taking my lad to his first game)

    Stoke, scruffy draw/win

    Arsenal, not holding my breath with that game tbh!

  • 32 HullMag6 // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Hang on lads (deep breath) we’re on form for europa again if we keep going..

  • 33 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Why do some fans always single out the manager for criticism when we lose but find it impossible to praise when we win. In football, the manager is responsible for the positional play; deciding who plays where and what tactics are to be employed. Although the players may not always follow his blueprint. The players are required to carry out the actual tactical formation and more basically that they decide when to tackle, when to pass,when to shoot etc. So they do have to take their share of responsibility as to how things work out. A goalkeeper could misjudge a save but still keep the ball out as a result of a deflection, or a forward could stray offside but not be spotted. Or alternatively score a perfectly good goal but be wrongly flagged offside. In short in football, positional skill, or the manager’s tactical nous, are not always sufficient to provide a winning combination. Matches are too complex to map out the future outcome precisely, refereeing decisions, injuries, fitness levels and indeed luck can all play a part. It’s worth pointing out that the manager has to assess the individual fitness of returning players from international duty and the impact of domestic and psychological issues, on both an individual and the team overall.

  • 34 Rotonda heights // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Ian Toon,

    I am glad to say I do not fall in to that category. I have been Pardew’s fiercest critic and if he had continued in the same vein I would have remained so.

    However, if someone can change their perceptions and outlook for the greater good then fair play to them.

    Yesterday in the first half was the first time under Pardew that I have witnessed 1-2′s, triangles, overlapping and movement beyond the man with the ball, plus a desire to go for a second goal. It was great to watch and very refreshing.

    The fear returned second half and we stood off too much (again!) However, first halves v Chelsea, Spurs and yesterday were / are hugely encouraging.

  • 35 jasper // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    25toonarmydownsouth // Nov 24, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Our Xmas run in, predictions

    Ok TADS, I’ll bite.
    Here you go. 14 points

    30 Nov
    17:30. W
    Newcastle . 3
    West Brom. 1

    4 Dec
    19:45. D
    Swansea City. 0
    Newcastle. 0
    7 Dec

    12:45. D
    Man United. 2
    Newcastle. 2

    14 Dec. W
    Newcastle. 2
    Southampton. 1

    21 Dec. W
    Crystal Palace. 0
    Newcastle. 1

    26 Dec. W
    Newcastle. 2
    Stoke City. 0.

    29 Dec. L
    Newcastle. 1
    Arsenal. 3

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 24, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Ian Toon
    For me pardew got it so wrong last season

    Instead of playing football that was best for his style and the squad he seemed to try to cram all our big names into the starting line up and we ended up with a mis matched disjointed looking starting 11 that looked lost and shot of confidence and most importantly were only playing for themselves
    I said in the summer i felt that realistically pardew had taken us as far as he could, and that the summer we really needed either a new manager or some new back room staff
    When it became clear he was going nowhere then all that the fans could do was just hope that pardew learnt from the mistakes of last season and at the very least attempt to address the issues

    He done a lot of talking at the start of the season about how we needed to be more of a threat going forward, but it wasn’t really translating onto the pitch, a bit hit and hope, but there were defiantly signs we were trying to implement a new style if play

    It finally started to click when he ditched that 451 formation and actually played lads suited to the formation and not picked a team based on reputation and fair play to him for that

    It may not be the most modern style in the game today but it’s working, we playing the ball on the deck well and were maximising the potential of the whole squad instead of building a team to get the best out if one or two players and long may it continue

    For me in order to keep it going he has to continue to be brave with his selection in terms of being prepared to drop players like cisse HBA and colo

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Brave predictions there mate!
    But yeah if we carry on form why the hell not, the only result I’d swap is WBA and Swansea, think WBA could be a draw and a win at Swansea but either way if we can get say 10 points minimum from those games were set up very nicely for the second half of the season

  • 38 bishopblaize // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    I’, with Ashley here .. he’s the one have the behind closed doors talks with everyone .. even the fans that matter.

    The structure to training, transfers, bonus schemes, scouting, media and the list gans on


    Foo-kin-luvin-it :-)

    Looking forward to the weekend aint we?

  • 39 bishopblaize // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    AND with games we having coming up we are on a right mission like!

    Swansea away be a bit tuff BUT we’ll wrap it up

    MAN URE & ARSENAL .. Sealed :)

  • 40 Ciaran // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Just after watching the Irish effort against New Zealand. Had them the whole way until we lost to an overtime try. The effort, commitment and desire shown by the Irish rugby players today would put the entire sport of football to shame. Not a criticism because it is like comparing apples and oranges, merely an observation.

    How are we all this evening?

  • 41 Mister Tuff // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    yo-yo your support of bills is indeed admirable. Would your support extend to comments in calling me not a true fan and saying I wanted the team to get beat -which are not true. Despite my request asking for an apology -he refuses saying I threatened to beat him up. Clearly he was not in “sarcasm” mode that day -when it was obvious I was joking about “administering to him a good thrashing” – phraseology of the upper classes 200 years ago.

  • 42 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Rotonda- it was a surprisingly enjoyable game. Shola had a very good and team driven game. It was a shame that Cisse’s goal did not stand but he looked more assured than of late. Having watched a few TV games this weekend it is interesting to see that Pardew is bold in playing with two out and out ST’s whilst many teams didn’t.

    Though I thought Collocini was poor and Remy was greedy and lacked vision or maybe he was just plain greedy. I see he claims to have been tired.

    However, the recent adventure and boldness in our play suggests that there is a growing cohesion and good team spirit. I am worried that Remy makes such a big contribution to the goal tally and hope we can get a further quality ST in January. December is daunting in terms of the number of fixtures as Tads has illustrated but we hopefully will have a strong squad to select from.

    That said I feel more comfortable with Yanga at CB and Collocini being benched and allowed to work on his fitness. Yanga’s presence noticeably makes a big difference to our ability to keep a higher line and squeeze the play when we can rely on increased pace and power of recovery.

    Tads- I do agree with much of what you have said. For me the whole sorry season resulted from a lack of depth in the squad and limited options available to change things around.

    Pardew in part was inclined to be negative in his approach but now feels he can be more expansive in his tactics because January signings have largely bedded in and injuries have been coped with.

    I will get around to forecasting the December games and not as positively as Jesper who has us heading for a CL place.

  • 43 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Sorry Jasper

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Ian Toon – not a bad post @33 -agree with most of what you said -however if players repeatedly failed to follow the game plan/tactics -after coaching it and further coaching – the answer is to drop them -until the penny has dropped or get players in who can follow directions.

  • 45 toonbrother // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Colocinni sucks
    That is all.

  • 46 santonthenewmaldini // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Norwich played a part in what was a very entertaining game since the Everton game we have played a lot better football keeping it on the deck and passing and moving I think a lot of the problems we had last season were confidence based as a lot of players in our team the now are really confident and are starting to express themselves week in week out (for 45 minutes anyway!)

    I thought playing with 2 strikers was a risky move but it worked for us I lost count of the number of times Shola, Remy and Cisse put challenges into the Norwich midfield to steal the ball back for us when you then add Sissoko , Gouffran , Cabaye , Anita and Tiote into the mix it means that we can hound teams off the ball and bully them to an extent which we achieved in the first half

    I also liked how we were prepared to mix it up with passing triangles on the deck and then a good long ball up to Shola who would play someone in if we can get an upgrade on him who can also score goals then we really could be cooking !Not sure on Gomis though

  • 47 clinath@ed // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    The closer we get to 40 points by January….the less chance we have of Ashley spending. Just a thought…!

  • 48 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Mr Tuff – I like your Jeeves humour – I can see you as a nobleman in times gone by.
    @ 44 – it’s an interesting theory, Sir. Would you care to expatiate upon it? Only kidding- peace bro!

  • 49 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    @47 -Time to go before the mood changes.

  • 50 Harley // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Can I just say my piece on cisses “goal” yesterday.
    I keep reading “if his goal stood” or “if the flag hasn’t gone up”.
    If its the goal they showed on motd then everyone stopped playing when the flag went up and the ref blew the whistle.
    The keeper clearly knows the play has been stopped and just stands up and let’s it go in.
    There was no goal.
    Unless there is another one that wasn’t shown, in that case I apologise.

  • 51 clinath@ed // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    I’m gone

  • 52 roy // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Keep Coloccini and Saylor, away from the first team and we will stay in the top half of the table.

  • 53 DanRo // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Excellent article on why Ben Arfa is not been picked at the moment.

    Informative and explanatory with good statistics as evidence.

  • 54 Rooster // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Watching that first half yesterday was actually giving me some decent hope, cruised through it, the usual backing off when in the lead happened as we all know making for a nervy last 10 mins, and as AP said the win is all that mattered, but we could have pushed on for that third we really could have, i thought that yesterday could have been the game were we dominated the 90 mins totally, instead we hung on for dear life yet again whilst defending a lead, how it came to that i dont know, Norwich actually ended up with more possession than us as well, of course the points are platinum, but AP`s interview saying the win is all that mattered could easily have been blown out of the water by that guttless second half display no doubt ordered by AP to close shop, not a toss given about the fans entertainment, more like saving his job, we can do it, grow a set of balls Pardew well at least for the 90 mins.

  • 55 stan anderson // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Who was the new guy upfront 1st half against Norwich.
    Certainly been a long time waiting for that performance.
    I,ve been a hater of Shola for years now but i must congratulate him on a top notch first half performance,shame he did.nt get the goal that would,ve rounded it off nicely.
    Well Done Shola

  • 56 clinath@ed // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Roy, putting that comma in, really changes what, I think, your trying to say.

  • 57 roy // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    @56 thats alright what are you trying to say though,?

  • 58 clinath@ed // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    On subject Roy, Collo is playing like a man who is seriously distracted and I haven’t rate d Saylor for about 3 seasons now. Sorry about the Micky taking…

  • 59 roy // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Im, not to troubled son i use commas in the hope someone will pull me up short about my over use of them, Coloccini is playing for a move home and Saylor, is playing for the other team,!

  • 60 cyprus // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    On City: that was awesome, got to feel for AVB, they weren’t that bad, just City were brilliant. Spurs best, Dembele, City, well, who to pick?

    On our game: A solid performance, deserved win despite the scares. Cisse goal was legit, shame it didn’t stand. In fact, he was good value when he came on, and so was HBA, who seems fit and rearing to go. Give him a game AP.
    Then again, who to drop from a winning set up? Tiote was monstrous (in the best way), Colo-will solid, Santon very good, Sissoko -Gouffran standouts, Remy dangerous –though selfish ;) And what’s gotten into Shola all of a sudden :)

    Toon bro, why do you hate Colo so much :)

  • 61 clinath@ed // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    I’ve thought for a long time now, that Saylor has a hankering to be a keeper. You watch how many times he he leaves the player he should be marking and scarpers to the goal line….suppose goal line clearances are sexier than just doing what your paid for..

  • 62 mindshaft // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    if we get 30 points by end of december we’re doing well and set up well for 2nd half of season – anymore and I’ll be ecstatic, my predictions…

    30 Nov
    17:30. W
    Newcastle . 2
    West Brom. 1

    4 Dec
    19:45. D
    Swansea City. 0
    Newcastle. 0
    7 Dec

    12:45. D
    Man United. 2
    Newcastle. 0

    14 Dec. W
    Newcastle. 1
    Southampton. 1

    21 Dec. W
    Crystal Palace. 0
    Newcastle. 1

    26 Dec. W
    Newcastle. 2
    Stoke City. 0.

    29 Dec. L
    Newcastle. 1
    Arsenal. 2

  • 63 santonthenewmaldini // Nov 24, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    No need to drop anyone to accomodate Arfa we are creating enough chances and look like scoring at least 2 goals a game without him also look a lot more solid at the back I would love him to come back into the team and make the contribution needed but he should only get in on merit and Gouffran and Sissoko deserve to start ahead of him at the moment

    If Shola can play like that every week then he should stay in the team but I feel he will be the one to make way eventually but Arfa has to deliver when he gets a chance

    When he came on the 2nd half he set up Cisse with a lovely cross from the left wing this for me is where he should be playing no cutting inside hitting shite shots he should be beating the fullback and swinging it in with his left should be providing not looking for the spectacular because if Cisse or Remy got quality delivery from Arfa like that every game they would score a lot more would also encourage Cabaye etc to arrive late into the box for any knockdowns

    If he learns to play as part of the team then great otherwise we need to look at cashing in and getting maybe 2 wingers who work hard with end product

  • 64 pottsclock // Nov 24, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    By the time we play Swansea in Dec they’ll be playing twice a week thanks (no thanks) to their European commitments. In fact, they play us on the Weds following their game at Man City on the Sunday and following a European game on the Thursday before.
    That’s 3 games within a week and I am hoping they’ll be knackered, crocked and without focus.
    Be interesting to see how they handle that vs our situation last season.

  • 65 NYMAG // Nov 24, 2013 at 9:55 PM


    I just posted more or less the same comments about Colo, he was suspect against Norwich and Yanga was solid again. Time to move on from Colo, let him leave and bring in someone for the future. For the wages we are paying him £80k a week we could get some quality.

    Above Spurs on goal difference, I think we all would have taken that before the season kicked off. What did they spend, about £100M..?!?

  • 66 Ian Toon // Nov 24, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Tads – My predictions:

    30 Nov
    17:30 W
    Newcastle 2
    West Brom 1

    4 Dec
    19:45 D
    Swansea City 2
    Newcastle 2

    7 Dec

    12:45 L
    Man United 3
    Newcastle 2

    14 Dec W
    Newcastle 1
    Southampton 0

    21 Dec L
    Crystal Palace 2
    Newcastle 1

    26 Dec. W
    Newcastle 3
    Stoke City 1

    29 Dec D
    Newcastle 1
    Arsenal 1

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