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Don’t Look Too Far Ahead – Behave Youself

10:30 am, Tuesday, November 26th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

Alan Pardew has criticized Newcastle journalists in the past, for going to extremes and when Newcastle win there’s talk about Champions League – see the last article - and all that stuff, and when we lose there’s talk about relegation, but that’s the way it’s always been at Newcastle United, and in truth it’s all to do with passion.

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Alan Pardew – don’t you look too far ahead
sorry Alan

Of course I am completely immune to these criticisms of Alan Pardew, because nobody in their right mind would ever call me a journalist – yes I get called other things – but never a journalist. :D

Alan had talked to Sky Sports and had said this after the win against Norwich City:

“We’re a good club and we’re going in the right direction and the most important thing is that we’re winning games.” “We don’t really want to look too far ahead.”

“But we’ve got everyone fit and I had some really good options on the bench on Saturday.”  “I think in the second half we didn’t have the energy that I would have liked, but the most important objective today was the win.”

We suppose it is important not to get too carried away with things and look too far ahead, so let’s just say after the Sunderland loss Newcastle have played four games and won three, and played extremely well.

And we were even a bit unlucky against Manchester City in that League Cup defeat, that went to extra time.

And if we keep playing like we have done over the last few weeks, we could even be in a very high position come Christmas.

Whoops – there I go again – Pardew will be after me if I’m not careful. – he may even think I’m a journalist. :D

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82 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ilovetoon8788 // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    A champions league level team, has a high level of consistency throughout the entire season.

    But consistency and Newcastle are miles apart. lol

  • 2 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    we look much more able to be consistent with this new system with shola in the side, defending and attacking as a team which helps, not perfect and still some frailty but mcuh better.

    think champs league is too far but just got to take it game by game

  • 3 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Will take Europa

  • 4 SuperShearer // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    If we don’t make Champ League (Which is highly doubt we will) I would rather we not qualify for Europa League. I know that’s a negative thing to say but that league ALWAYS has a negative impact on a team’s Premier League form the following season. Look at Swansea this year compared to last, their energy levels have dropped by 50%.

  • 5 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Our CL ambition or lack thereof will be determined by Jan Transfer window.

  • 6 ToonDarnSarf // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Many of us said we should be targeting 7th or 8th place this season and at the moment we are looking good for that. That’s excellent and the squad and manager should be happy so far.

    But we need to keep our feet on the ground here. We don’t “need” to push on from here, though it would be good if we could. We need to maintain this level and if we get 7th or 8th then it’s a good season.

    Then…in fitting with the club claiming they had top 12 as the target last year and top 10 this year, are we right to assume that top 8 would be the minimum target next year? And then…? :-)

  • 7 Scottiedog // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    I think 8th place would be perfect this year and definitely not Europa!! Europa is a certainty to destroy good teams and the money is not worth it, unless we could just stick out the U21′s and use it as development??

  • 8 Generic Commenter // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    It really is a tough one. I loved watching us in Europe last season, but some of our League results were just embarrassing. If we could get the balance right then I’d say go for the Europa, but we need to spend and spend on quality to not affect our League status

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    I don’t see how you couldn’t want europa? Energy levels for us didn’t drop last year at all, we made a good 7/8 changes per game when in the group stage.

    If you want to be a champs league side you need to spend time in europa, not likely to go from 8th to 4th in a year, we need the experience of europe too…last year wil have done the management the world of good knowing how different the time for preparation is.

  • 10 UpAndHatem // Nov 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Based on our premier league finish history over the past 20 years, top 10 in 10 of those years with 8 top 6 and 5 top 4 finishes, the ambition and expectation of Newcastle United fans to be pushing for Top 6 each season is full understandable.

  • 11 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    PL – 38 matches
    Capital one cup – max 7 matches
    FA cup max 12 matches
    UCL max – 13 matches
    Europa – max 15 matches

    Why cant we have a squad that can enable us to get through W/o tiring.

  • 12 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    dhingra

    we do, we have 2 decent teams at the club now

  • 13 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    TS

    Really? Still Pardew uses the word tiredness

  • 14 Generic Commenter // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    It’s not just the team, it’s the management and the coaching staff that need to be able to cope with two games a week

  • 15 croftus5678 // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    @9 transfer sage

    i fully agree m8

    it doesnt matter what happens when we are in it and if we cant cope its the fact that we have got there and got the world to notice us for good reasons and we can learnand get better from the experiance.

    i hear players saying we want europe but its up to the players to prove there europe players and if they are not in europe its them that have proved they are not good enough to get there.

  • 16 Assam Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is ready to launch a fresh bid for Newcastle United’s Yohan Cabaye in the January transfer window.

    SOURCE- sportsdirect news

    why am i not surprised?

  • 17 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Is 7th/8th excellent or par for the course with the first 11 we have? Surely a team like Newcastle United should be aiming for 7th/8th every season with an excellent season being anything that surpasses that minimum expectation?

  • 18 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    dhingra

    there will so some tiredness in 3/4 that start both games and the subs, but it’s not that bad.

    i mean take the side that played chelsea and spurs, then think we have this side in reserve

    elliot
    dummet,colo,taylor,haidara
    anita, marv,bigi
    ben arfa, cisse, sammy

    then still others like raylor and obertan,

    We do need to keep improiving the quality of the players, be we are much better equipped to deal with it now.

    Generic

    that’s true, and i think after a year in it they will know more

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    ciaran

    I do agree but the monumental cock up of relegation set us back, I think then not investing enough when 5th so injuries to players crippled us meant we were again set back.

    Now we have a decent squad, still a few additions needed, as well as constantly improving but it’s decent, 8th should be what we achieve this year, anything less is disapointing, we are on track for it but other teams have improved a lot too like southampton.

  • 20 Rotonda heights // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    It sometimes comes across as if Pardew is almost scared to succeed. He always seems to be lowering expectations and because he hasn’t scaled the heights as a manager himself, his stance seems at odds with the players who seem way more ambitious than he appears to be.

    I know there is a line between being over confident but it’s reflected in our play somewhat. When we are really on top during games, Pardew slips on the handbrake as if to say we can’t do any more and it invites way more pressure on to us than should be the case when we have played well and previously dominated.

    Cabaye and Remy talk of ambition and it’s like Pardew is always towing an ultra conservative party line with Ashley.

  • 21 UpAndHatem // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Reading some previous posts about player sales, here is a list of players actively sold under Ashley’s tenure.

    SEASON 08/09
    Charles N’Zogbia – £6m
    Shay Given – £8m
    James Milner – £12m
    Abdoulaye Faye – £2.25m
    Emre – £4m

    SEASON 09/10
    Damien Duff – £4m
    Habib Beye – £2.5
    Obafemi Martins – £9m
    Seb Bassong – £10m

    SEASON 10/11
    Andrew Carroll – £35m

    SEASON 11/12
    Wayne Routledge – £2m
    Jose Enrique – £6.3m
    Kevin Nolan – £3.5m

    SEASON 12/13
    Demba Ba – £7.5m
    Fraser Forster – £2m
    Leon Best – £3m

    SEASON 13/14
    James Perch – £1m

  • 22 Rotonda heights // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Scottiedog

    but what do you get for finishing 8th? Absolutely zilch

  • 23 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Sage

    My point being is that if 8th is expected, how could it then be counted as ‘excellent’?

  • 24 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Also, it is insane that any fan would be willing us to NOT qualify for the Europa League! Madness!

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    ciaran

    Well it depends what is expected exactly, whats min target and whats the expected target, we don’t know for sure.

    Even still it’s excellent to achieve a target as it allows you to build for next year (hopefully) and push on more

  • 26 Robby Bobson // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    The group stages of europa we got through with kids, but i was at the benfica and sunderland game and theres no doubt the players looked exhausted..but it wasnt the sole cause of our low finish, not by a long shot….we finished low because we shipped out good squad players who were doing a great job in the season before like guthrie and best and brought in anita who struggled to adapt in the first season.

    We really should be aiming for europa with delight, im not pardews biggest critic but he annoys me the way he talks about the europa league.

    Also after watching wba yesterday we dont need defensive wingers as their full backs lack ambition or pace, so would be unhappy to see ben arfa on the bench. Give shola and rest and let him be rested to bully rio the following week.

  • 27 Scottiedog // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    @22
    What you get finishing 8th is a good build for next year to get into Champions League Football. The money for Europa in next to nothing. I would rather we had a good cup run and finish 8th than finish 5th. Again look at Swansea this year!! We need to get at least another 4 / 5 players and realistically that is not going to happen this year!!

  • 28 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Well if our target is top 10 and we achieve 8th does that count as over-achievement simply because the powers that be set the bar too low? We have a first 11 that has quality, admittedly our squad seriously lacks any sort of depth, but save for injuries we are comfortably a top 10 side. It is when we suffer a key injury or two that we are left exposed.

    For what it is worth, I still think we will finish outside of the top 10, not because we are not good enough, but because I think this squad will run out of steam/suffer injuries and because we’re spread too thin, any momentum we have built up recently will dissipate.

  • 29 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    keep shola in the side, helps us get up the field, something we couldn’t do all year before he started playing

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    ciaran

    we have a better squad than any side outside of the top 6 clubs…so don’t see teams in 9/10th having deeps squads than us.

    our bench is very strong and we have decent players beyond that

  • 31 Robby Bobson // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    He does but Olsson and mcularly are big lads and mulumbu is very good at disrupting when players drop off, so maybe better getting people to run at them and down and wings maybe more effective.

    Shola vs man utd is a must though in the form he is in.

  • 32 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Sage

    I’m looking at performances from the likes of Shola and Willo as being very temporary. Also, where is this supposed strength in our squad outside of Anita and HBA? Obertan? Campbell? Saylor?

  • 33 sweendog // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Can believe people don’t want Europe .. any cup runs got to be appreciated .. I’d love us to win a cup

  • 34 Rotonda heights // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    last time I looked Swansea were about 10th only a couple of places below us and about where they were before they qualified for Europa via winning a cup, rather than league achievements. Not bad for a recently promoted club.

    At the moment Marveaux can’t even make the bench so we are hardly that depleted of resources.

  • 35 martoon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    At the start of the season a lot of us did predictions which TDSarf tabulated. I’ve just looked at mine I predicted 48 points finishing in 10th place with Cisse as top goal scorer – I think I might be wrong on the top goalscorer :)

  • 36 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Think I predicted 11th, not sure with how many points, not sure who I went for with top goalscorer haha

  • 37 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    “ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    I’m going to make a list of everyone who says that we won’t get top half this season, then when we do, I’ll name and shame them.”

    Although martoon, he doesn’t have the purest intentions…

  • 38 Scottiedog // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    @34 – English Cup Winners go straight into the playoffs rather than having to go through play offs, hence not wanting to finish 5th / 6th

  • 39 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    I predicted 20th with 32 points

    relegated by week 34

    I might be wrong.

  • 40 Scottiedog // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Sorry meant qualifying stages!

  • 41 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Indian

    Yeah you just might be…

  • 42 DokToon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    good morning all…

    talking/fantasizing about CL > talking about relegation imo :)

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    ciaran

    well outside of the team vs chelsea/spurs

    we have colo, taylor, haidara, anita, marv, obertan, hba, cisse, sammy

    not that bad

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    scottie

    5th goes into group stage, cup places go into play offs for it.

  • 45 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Colo will more than likely go in for Willo. Haidara should arguably be given a chance to go in for Santon at LB. Marv is off the radar, Obertan no longer has a career at NUFC. Cisse cannot hit a barn door with a banjo, Taylor is a liability and HBA is useless if he’s not on it.

    I am sure, in relative terms to other teams around us, it may not be that bad, but the ‘our squad is not that bad’ approach justifies not strengthening it, and I for one want to see it strengthened.

  • 46 Rotonda heights // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    sage

    guttierez too

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    rotonda

    forgot him

    ciaran

    But my point stands, we have a better squad than any side outside the top 6/7. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t look to improve on the likes of obertan, marv, etc

  • 48 DokToon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    ive been saying for awhile now shane long would be great in black and white, anyone catch that match yesterday?

  • 49 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    are there rumours that Carroll may retire due to injury?

  • 50 Scottiedog // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    @ TS this year Swansea were in third qualifying round for winning league cup, Spurs were in the play offs for finishing 5th and Wigan went into the group stages for winning the FA Cup. Not sure if that is every year though??

  • 51 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    dok

    yeh was a great game, long is the perfect pardew player, quick, good hold up, works hard, decent finisher and he is a perfect ashley player…contract running down

  • 52 Rotonda heights // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    It’s a good team, a decent squad and the manager is finally getting his act together to a degree.

    Some people still moan about lack of investment but really? OK we don’t do trophy signings any more (good) and we didn’t buy in the summer but we got SIX quality players in January which is unheard of and Remy now. No one’s bitching about Everton having Lukaku only on loan.

    I have seen improvement but some people still seem to have an agenda no matter what.

  • 53 Transfer Sage // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    scottie

    i think that sounds right, i thought 5th took priority over the FA cup but maybe not then. apologies

  • 54 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Unlike us Swansea actually invested in their squad and got rid of rubbish like Danny Graham, fans not wanting to get into Europa League make me laugh….Just like pards they believe the party line that EL almost got us relegated and caused injuries etc. A manager who comes out and says he’s relieved to be knocked out of a competition is all you need to know about the man’s ambition. As for Swansea players looking tired etc, they play a different 11 to the one that starts PL games apart from the backbone of team, Williams Chico and Michu. I also believe they were losing 2-0 to stoke at HT came back to lead 3-2 and were robbed by a shocking ref decision in added time (not bad for a team that was in Russia 3 days prior)

    Tiredness is an excuse and a feeble one at that, I don’t believe we should be using it as an excuse these guys are supposed to be athletes, I’ve mentioned this before but Oscar at the weekend played his 109th game since the Olympics and he was by far the best player on the pitch and has been for Chelsea this season, yes he is young but he even says himself he wants to play in every game

  • 55 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Rotonda

    We bought 5 in January if we’re going to deal in facts. Just because we’re piecing together a decent run of form does not mean I, and others like me, will suddenly believe in Ashley. Pardew and the players are getting the job done at the moment, and with more investment we’d be saying we have the tools to attack the top 6. As it stands we don’t.

    Do I have an agenda? Yes, to see Mike Ashley out of our club but I also I appreciate the improved performances of the players and manager.

    The performances of Remy have been integral to our season thus far, what happens if he suffers an injury? Surely if things are as rosy as some would have you believe our season will not depend on the fitness of one player?

  • 56 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Shane Long had a good game yesterday against but the lad is not good enough for us, he can’t even replace Leon Best from the national team!! Look at Longs record it’s not good at all, he works hard, is a grafter but not worth the money…I’ll use the buzz word from this blog…he lacks consistency.

    Pards loves to make excuses, EL for last season’s poor showing, tiredness for abject performances on a consistent basis in the 2nd half of games.

  • 57 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Europa league is for clubs like ours, who cannot get into UCL year in year out. it gives a chance of a trophyand play some of europe’s better teams.

    Like PSV, Fiorentina etc.

    We can do a lot better if we embrace it.

  • 58 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Our Toon

    I follow the Republic of Ireland national football team and I can assure you that Leon Best has only ever been part of 1 maybe 2 national squads. I can also tell you that he is our best striker by far.

    He is exactly the type of player we need in our team, his hard work, ability to hold the ball, run the channels and score goals would be crucial for us. I do not know why Steve Clarke wants rid of him but I would have him here in a heartbeat.

  • 59 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    *He = Shane Long, not Leon Best

  • 60 Ancientcoptic // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Our Toon

    When did Pardew say he was ”relieved” to be out of the Europa League? That is a new one to me… do you have a link or quote?

  • 61 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/05/12/pardew-thank-god-were-not-in-the-europa-league-again/

    There you go Ancient

  • 62 Himanshu Dhingra // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Ancientcoptic

    Did Pardew not say last season that thank god we will not be in Europa league this season.

  • 63 DokToon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    hold the presses, ciaran and i agree???

    “hello reverend, has hell frozen over?” :)

  • 64 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Ciaran,

    I would rather have a finisher than a grafter, we need goals mate especially in a team devoid of goals. We have enough workhorses, it’s about time we got some real quality upfront. Remy our only ST who has scored this season in the league and he isn’t even our player, apart from Remy, Gouffran and Cabaye who else can you look at in our current starting 11 that looks like they can score? Put Long in to replace Remy for next season and we are struggling to score

  • 65 Ancientcoptic // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Our Toon,

    He is an actual quote from Pardew, after just losing out against Benfica.

    Pardew:

    ‘I’m proud of the football club. We nearly pulled it off,’ said Pardew.

    ‘I thought when Hatem cut inside that was our moment. It was the most attacking lineup I’ve ever put out in the end.

    ‘But we’ll be back – our aim is to qualify for Europe again next season.’

    May I ask, why are you making up lies about the manager? or are you just badly informed.

  • 66 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Ancient, you clearly have not read the quote from Pardew that was just after the Arsenal game (last game of last season)

  • 67 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Our Toon

    He is a number 9, and will get you goals if played properly. He has just been used as a workhorse for WBA. I’ve seen him play many many times and he is a clinical striker. The fact that he works hard as well should be lauded, not criticised. He has not got as many goals in the PL as he would have liked, but that does not mean he is a bad striker. I’d take a gamble on him, because if we’re going for bargain basement, he’d be one of the best cheap strikers would could get.

  • 68 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Ancient

    “It’s been an unbelievable season and I think it’s been so, so tight because of the financial rewards at stake this year. I will make sure that we are well prepared for next season, and thank God we are not in the Europa League again.”

  • 69 Ancientcoptic // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    I stand corrected.

    Slightly mixed messages coming from Pardew. He is aiming for Europe next season, but appears to be happy to not be involved this season.

  • 70 bills-son // Nov 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Cisse’s continued goal drought is the most serious threat to where we finish this season.

    If Remy gets injured for any length of time we’ve got real problems. We should have signed another CF in the summer and that is an absolute priority in Jan.

  • 71 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Ciaran,

    If we got Long and a top class forward in the mould of a Benteke or a Lukaku type of CF big, strong, powerful then I would think it’s productive, but if we only get long then I think it’s a big step backwards (remember the person coming in is going to be Ba’s replacement)

    Shane Long career stats 150 starts (99 sub) 249 games 63 goals. Sorry but that’s not impressive he even had a spell in championship with Reading

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2411708/Shane-Long-needs-improve-scoring-record-Ireland-says-Marco-Tardelli.html

    need to strikers and would be happy if he was 2 choice but not priority or first choice

  • 72 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    I agree Bills, would also like to see a strong centre half to be paired with M’biwa signed in Jan, because it seems Colo is on the wane and we do not know how long Willo will perform well for.

  • 73 Ciaran // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Our Toon

    Seems like you’ve glanced over the fact that I’ve admitted that Long does not score enough, but through his hard work and ability to create space for others he could be the perfect foil for Cisse.

  • 74 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Bills-Son

    Agreed mate we need Cisse back on form, I thought Remy could have played him in on Saturday but decided he wanted to go himself which you could see by Cisse’s reaction that he was miffed!! 2 on 1 chance and Remy played for himself rather than thinking about the team or his team mate!! (That’s my biggest issue with loan deals – Players play for themselves not for the team)

    Ancient

    No problem mate, Pards is the master of mixed messages…we desperately needed a couple of bodies in the summer but when the window closed we suddenly had a better squad than the previous year and we weren’t light!!

  • 75 Our Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Ciaran:

    I understand what you mean about his work rate etc. but I’d rather have a CF who can score than one who works hard, both them traits would be fantastic but there isn’t many of them about, just don’t think the lad will get goals which was my point from the beginning, he’s a grafter but we have a team of grafters. It’s either Long or Cisse can’t see them being paired it just wouldn’t work!!

    Need a brute up top big strong forward and then someone like long who can graft around him but the lad is way down on my list of players wanted!!

  • 76 MosesNUFC // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    If we get 9th, 8th, 7th this year, it will be a building block for us to try and qualify for europa league next year. However, i’d say realistically we need to spend about 6-12m in january to improve and make sure we reach our target. If we do get europa league, we will defo need to strengthen, Ashley knows that if we are in europa league we are in danger of relegation if he doesn’t spend money. We only needed 1 or 2 players in the summer, and we only need 1 or 2 in january. but if this season does hold a surprise for us then we will need 4-5 players in the summer.

  • 77 MosesNUFC // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Here’s a question, would you take Kurt Zouma for around 6-8m as a 5th choice centre back and long term replacement for colo, despite his suspension, i think he’s a very exciting prospect

  • 78 croftus5678 // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    remy has the same mentality as cisse/arfa with them all being greedy players and not team players but that also explains the amount of goals they have in there carrers (apart from arfa who only wants the limelight).

    but fact is now that cisse is off form and we have no real striker who can put the ball in the net when most teams have atleast 2 ^^ we would be a lot lower in the table without remy ! just a shame he isnt ours.

    need a target man like shola who can score atleast 1 in 3 and a team playing striker with a decent record if cisse is going to continue this goal drought.

  • 79 toonincheek // Nov 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Our Toon @64 -
    Did you really say -
    “Remy our only ST who has scored this season in the league ”
    What are you on?

  • 80 Rotonda heights // Nov 26, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Ciaran,

    if you want to deal in facts

    Gouffran
    Sissoko
    M’Biwa
    Debuchy
    Haidara
    M’babu

    Maths isn’t my strong point but I’m pretty sure that’s 6

  • 81 Ian Toon // Nov 26, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Rotonda@ 52
    I am more than happy to embrace your current thinking because surprisingly( for me) it’s not that dissimilar from my own.

    However, in an earlier post you also suggested that Pardew lacked conviction in going for the jugular ( i do acknowledge a degree of over caution on occasion on his part) but quite often it can be accounted for by player error or lack of responsibility taken.

    By way of illustration let me call on the Monday night game which I have now watched:

    My any reasonable measure Sessegnon should have scored for WBA to make it 3-0 after around 20 minutes. Sessegnon failed to control an Amalfitano cross when totally unmarked in the box, pathetically sending it wide. In retrospect this gave Villa hope- and without hope etc etc. In any event don’t take my word for it , Steve Clarke made it clear he regarded it as a significant moment.

    I don’t know whether you watched the game but I did because of our forthcoming contest. Long got WBA off to a great start by scoring two very good technical goals. Well WBA were very much in control for around an hour but your could noticeably see Villa take control thereafter and undoubtedly Lambert got his bold substitutions spot on which seemed to cause WBA to lose momentum as much as Villa seizing the initiative. Villa did become more of an attacking force with the ST changes – but what did they have to lose.

    I personally was reminded of the toon / Hull game where individual defensive errors and HBA going missing when required to track back cost us the game. One football expert on here I remember blamed Pardew – suggesting he had been out thought by Bruce-LOL.

    WBA did lose momentum and concentration but mistakes were made defensively and that’s down to the players involved.

    Turning to potential transfer targets – Long looked class and clinical for his two goals. He latched onto a simple long ball punt with his right foot before powering home with his left. His second goal came from a defensive bad pass but he had it all still to do. He finished with a deft chip over Guzan.

    All goals are good goals but the pick was the first Long brought the ball down over his shoulder, not an easy skill, and then he shifted it onto his apparently weaker left foot before powering home.

    He would do for me.

  • 82 Gally89 // Nov 27, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Long for me to.

    Also they get some abs idiots on talk sport….




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