Don’t Look Too Far Ahead – Behave Youself

Alan Pardew has criticized Newcastle journalists in the past, for going to extremes and when Newcastle win there’s talk about Champions League – see the last article – and all that stuff, and when we lose there’s talk about relegation, but that’s the way it’s always been at Newcastle United, and in truth it’s all to do with passion.

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Alan Pardew – don’t you look too far ahead
sorry Alan

Of course I am completely immune to these criticisms of Alan Pardew, because nobody in their right mind would ever call me a journalist – yes I get called other things – but never a journalist. 😀

Alan had talked to Sky Sports and had said this after the win against Norwich City:

“We’re a good club and we’re going in the right direction and the most important thing is that we’re winning games.” “We don’t really want to look too far ahead.”

“But we’ve got everyone fit and I had some really good options on the bench on Saturday.”  “I think in the second half we didn’t have the energy that I would have liked, but the most important objective today was the win.”

We suppose it is important not to get too carried away with things and look too far ahead, so let’s just say after the Sunderland loss Newcastle have played four games and won three, and played extremely well.

And we were even a bit unlucky against Manchester City in that League Cup defeat, that went to extra time.

And if we keep playing like we have done over the last few weeks, we could even be in a very high position come Christmas.

Whoops – there I go again – Pardew will be after me if I’m not careful. – he may even think I’m a journalist. 😀

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82 comments so far

  • ilovetoon8788

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #1

    A champions league level team, has a high level of consistency throughout the entire season.

    But consistency and Newcastle are miles apart. lol

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #2

    we look much more able to be consistent with this new system with shola in the side, defending and attacking as a team which helps, not perfect and still some frailty but mcuh better.

    think champs league is too far but just got to take it game by game

  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #3

    Will take Europa

  • SuperShearer

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #4

    If we don’t make Champ League (Which is highly doubt we will) I would rather we not qualify for Europa League. I know that’s a negative thing to say but that league ALWAYS has a negative impact on a team’s Premier League form the following season. Look at Swansea this year compared to last, their energy levels have dropped by 50%.

  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #5

    Our CL ambition or lack thereof will be determined by Jan Transfer window.

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #6

    Many of us said we should be targeting 7th or 8th place this season and at the moment we are looking good for that. That’s excellent and the squad and manager should be happy so far.

    But we need to keep our feet on the ground here. We don’t “need” to push on from here, though it would be good if we could. We need to maintain this level and if we get 7th or 8th then it’s a good season.

    Then…in fitting with the club claiming they had top 12 as the target last year and top 10 this year, are we right to assume that top 8 would be the minimum target next year? And then…? 🙂

  • Scottiedog

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #7

    I think 8th place would be perfect this year and definitely not Europa!! Europa is a certainty to destroy good teams and the money is not worth it, unless we could just stick out the U21’s and use it as development??

  • Generic Commenter

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #8

    It really is a tough one. I loved watching us in Europe last season, but some of our League results were just embarrassing. If we could get the balance right then I’d say go for the Europa, but we need to spend and spend on quality to not affect our League status

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #9

    I don’t see how you couldn’t want europa? Energy levels for us didn’t drop last year at all, we made a good 7/8 changes per game when in the group stage.

    If you want to be a champs league side you need to spend time in europa, not likely to go from 8th to 4th in a year, we need the experience of europe too…last year wil have done the management the world of good knowing how different the time for preparation is.

  • UpAndHatem

    Nov 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #10

    Based on our premier league finish history over the past 20 years, top 10 in 10 of those years with 8 top 6 and 5 top 4 finishes, the ambition and expectation of Newcastle United fans to be pushing for Top 6 each season is full understandable.

  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #11

    PL – 38 matches
    Capital one cup – max 7 matches
    FA cup max 12 matches
    UCL max – 13 matches
    Europa – max 15 matches

    Why cant we have a squad that can enable us to get through W/o tiring.

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #12


    we do, we have 2 decent teams at the club now

  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #13


    Really? Still Pardew uses the word tiredness

  • Generic Commenter

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #14

    It’s not just the team, it’s the management and the coaching staff that need to be able to cope with two games a week

  • croftus5678

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #15

    @9 transfer sage

    i fully agree m8

    it doesnt matter what happens when we are in it and if we cant cope its the fact that we have got there and got the world to notice us for good reasons and we can learnand get better from the experiance.

    i hear players saying we want europe but its up to the players to prove there europe players and if they are not in europe its them that have proved they are not good enough to get there.

  • Assam Toon

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #16

    Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is ready to launch a fresh bid for Newcastle United’s Yohan Cabaye in the January transfer window.

    SOURCE- sportsdirect news

    why am i not surprised?

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #17

    Is 7th/8th excellent or par for the course with the first 11 we have? Surely a team like Newcastle United should be aiming for 7th/8th every season with an excellent season being anything that surpasses that minimum expectation?

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #18


    there will so some tiredness in 3/4 that start both games and the subs, but it’s not that bad.

    i mean take the side that played chelsea and spurs, then think we have this side in reserve

    anita, marv,bigi
    ben arfa, cisse, sammy

    then still others like raylor and obertan,

    We do need to keep improiving the quality of the players, be we are much better equipped to deal with it now.


    that’s true, and i think after a year in it they will know more

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #19


    I do agree but the monumental cock up of relegation set us back, I think then not investing enough when 5th so injuries to players crippled us meant we were again set back.

    Now we have a decent squad, still a few additions needed, as well as constantly improving but it’s decent, 8th should be what we achieve this year, anything less is disapointing, we are on track for it but other teams have improved a lot too like southampton.

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #20

    It sometimes comes across as if Pardew is almost scared to succeed. He always seems to be lowering expectations and because he hasn’t scaled the heights as a manager himself, his stance seems at odds with the players who seem way more ambitious than he appears to be.

    I know there is a line between being over confident but it’s reflected in our play somewhat. When we are really on top during games, Pardew slips on the handbrake as if to say we can’t do any more and it invites way more pressure on to us than should be the case when we have played well and previously dominated.

    Cabaye and Remy talk of ambition and it’s like Pardew is always towing an ultra conservative party line with Ashley.

  • UpAndHatem

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #21

    Reading some previous posts about player sales, here is a list of players actively sold under Ashley’s tenure.

    SEASON 08/09
    Charles N’Zogbia – £6m
    Shay Given – £8m
    James Milner – £12m
    Abdoulaye Faye – £2.25m
    Emre – £4m

    SEASON 09/10
    Damien Duff – £4m
    Habib Beye – £2.5
    Obafemi Martins – £9m
    Seb Bassong – £10m

    SEASON 10/11
    Andrew Carroll – £35m

    SEASON 11/12
    Wayne Routledge – £2m
    Jose Enrique – £6.3m
    Kevin Nolan – £3.5m

    SEASON 12/13
    Demba Ba – £7.5m
    Fraser Forster – £2m
    Leon Best – £3m

    SEASON 13/14
    James Perch – £1m

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #22


    but what do you get for finishing 8th? Absolutely zilch

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #23


    My point being is that if 8th is expected, how could it then be counted as ‘excellent’?

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #24

    Also, it is insane that any fan would be willing us to NOT qualify for the Europa League! Madness!

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #25


    Well it depends what is expected exactly, whats min target and whats the expected target, we don’t know for sure.

    Even still it’s excellent to achieve a target as it allows you to build for next year (hopefully) and push on more

  • Robby Bobson

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #26

    The group stages of europa we got through with kids, but i was at the benfica and sunderland game and theres no doubt the players looked exhausted..but it wasnt the sole cause of our low finish, not by a long shot….we finished low because we shipped out good squad players who were doing a great job in the season before like guthrie and best and brought in anita who struggled to adapt in the first season.

    We really should be aiming for europa with delight, im not pardews biggest critic but he annoys me the way he talks about the europa league.

    Also after watching wba yesterday we dont need defensive wingers as their full backs lack ambition or pace, so would be unhappy to see ben arfa on the bench. Give shola and rest and let him be rested to bully rio the following week.

  • Scottiedog

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #27

    What you get finishing 8th is a good build for next year to get into Champions League Football. The money for Europa in next to nothing. I would rather we had a good cup run and finish 8th than finish 5th. Again look at Swansea this year!! We need to get at least another 4 / 5 players and realistically that is not going to happen this year!!

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #28

    Well if our target is top 10 and we achieve 8th does that count as over-achievement simply because the powers that be set the bar too low? We have a first 11 that has quality, admittedly our squad seriously lacks any sort of depth, but save for injuries we are comfortably a top 10 side. It is when we suffer a key injury or two that we are left exposed.

    For what it is worth, I still think we will finish outside of the top 10, not because we are not good enough, but because I think this squad will run out of steam/suffer injuries and because we’re spread too thin, any momentum we have built up recently will dissipate.

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #29

    keep shola in the side, helps us get up the field, something we couldn’t do all year before he started playing

  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #30


    we have a better squad than any side outside of the top 6 clubs…so don’t see teams in 9/10th having deeps squads than us.

    our bench is very strong and we have decent players beyond that

  • Robby Bobson

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #31

    He does but Olsson and mcularly are big lads and mulumbu is very good at disrupting when players drop off, so maybe better getting people to run at them and down and wings maybe more effective.

    Shola vs man utd is a must though in the form he is in.

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #32


    I’m looking at performances from the likes of Shola and Willo as being very temporary. Also, where is this supposed strength in our squad outside of Anita and HBA? Obertan? Campbell? Saylor?

  • sweendog

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #33

    Can believe people don’t want Europe .. any cup runs got to be appreciated .. I’d love us to win a cup

  • Rotonda heights

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #34

    last time I looked Swansea were about 10th only a couple of places below us and about where they were before they qualified for Europa via winning a cup, rather than league achievements. Not bad for a recently promoted club.

    At the moment Marveaux can’t even make the bench so we are hardly that depleted of resources.

  • martoon

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #35

    At the start of the season a lot of us did predictions which TDSarf tabulated. I’ve just looked at mine I predicted 48 points finishing in 10th place with Cisse as top goal scorer – I think I might be wrong on the top goalscorer 🙂

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #36

    Think I predicted 11th, not sure with how many points, not sure who I went for with top goalscorer haha

  • Ciaran

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #37

    “ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    I’m going to make a list of everyone who says that we won’t get top half this season, then when we do, I’ll name and shame them.”

    Although martoon, he doesn’t have the purest intentions…

  • Scottiedog

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #38

    @34 – English Cup Winners go straight into the playoffs rather than having to go through play offs, hence not wanting to finish 5th / 6th

  • Himanshu Dhingra

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #39

    I predicted 20th with 32 points

    relegated by week 34

    I might be wrong.

  • Scottiedog

    Nov 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #40

    Sorry meant qualifying stages!


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