Can Newcastle Make It Four In A Row Against West Brom?


Newcastle have a tough game against West Brom at St. James’ Park on Saturday, and a good crowd is again expected and in each of the last four home league games, St. James’ Park has been less than 100 short of a full house.

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Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa – does he have a role to play on Saturday?

Newcastle have three wins in a row and the only thing that matters now is somehow trying to get a win against a good West Brom side on Saturday, and of course they were the better side in their last away league game at Stamford Bridge, and but for a nonsense penalty decision in added time, would have come away with a 2-1 win – so they are very good on the road.

One question for Newcastle is what the back four will be,m and since Fabricio Coloccini has been exposed by forwards with pace in the past – maybe the more mobile Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa would be a better partner for Williamson at the back – given that Shane Long is in great form?

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174 comments so far

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #1

    Santon

    Like I said, from the players perspective, I don’t agree with targeting the CL at this stage. Push the players on to ensuring we stay in the top 8 and then if we’re still there near the end of the season, go for it. If we’re targeting the CL then we’re falling short now. I’d far rather tell the players that they’re doing well but they need to keep this level up so we finish in 8th at least. You can bet that they all want to go that step further but why turn a positive start into a negative?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #2

    mindshaft

    going off what i have seen of the lad the last 2 seasons I think he works hard and offers more than just goals, links play well and creates space for others by running the channels well.

    he has 3 in 10 this year and 11 in 37 last year…not bad as a squad player. good to have on the bench and better than our strikers apart from remy.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #3

    I once scored a left footed lob from 40 yards and also had a 5-a-side game wher I scored 8 out of the 9 goals including one where I controlled a throw from the GK on my chest direct into my path and then smashed it in the net on the half volley.

    My point is…neither of those performances made me a top player, or even a good amateur. Long is a decent enough striker, but he’s not the answer to all of our problems, look at his scoring record! He scores a couple of decent goals and some people go crazy.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #4

    Sage,
    He has a goal per minutes record that isn’t dissimilar to Shola, (Not really fair to go by appearances for either as many of their appearances are as a sub) with more than half is goals coming at Championship level.

    I’d take him for a couple of million, and would prefer to Gomis, but in my eyes he is more like Goofy than Remy/Shola/Cisse and at least 2 of those will probably need to be replaced in the summer still. With a Shola upgrade, despite his good form recently, being the bigger requirement for Jan.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #5

    Long is a Bellamy type player. Will harry, run create space, but will never be the main striker at a club.

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  • yo-yo

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #6

    TDS

    Our official target is 10+th but there is no reason that AP can’t tell the players we’re going for another 5th. If we stay relatively injury free and the team does get that mysterioius consistency, and key players retaint their form – Tiote for one – then we should be able to match two years ago. Aiming high and missing it by a place or two is much better than aiming for mediocrity and achieving it. Ashley’s biggest failure has been removing hope from the fans that we can do well and achieve something worth aiming for

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  • 70TWO

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #7

    WBA will probably try to repeat what Everton did to us so will Pardew use the back four that finished that game, or because of Debuchys positioning, retain last weekends back four?

    WBAs old school defense will probably relish a battle with Shola, so will Pardew go for a more modern offence?

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  • Jesus1983

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #8

    Pardew should stick with the same defence that got clean sheets against Chelsea and Spurs…..and i think he will. Bench for Coloccini.

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  • barkel

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Surely as a player/football club your target is to win every game!?

    Being Irish I’ve been a big fan of Shane Long over the years, as was said he isn’t going to be the best striker at a club like Newcastle but he is an excellent no10, he puts in an excellent shift, helps out at the back and has got loads of pace to counter

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #10

    lilo

    Yeh he isn’t a great player but a good player to have in the squad I feel, his pace coupled with hard work will cause problems and make space.

    We then need to either sign remy or a replacement of his level in the summer.

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  • 70TWO

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #11

    If I were Pardew I wouldn’t be looking for anything longer term than at least 8 points before Christmas.

    When looking at strikers there is a resurgence for using two, 1) quick and agile; 2) strong and technical, which of our current squad go in each category?
    1) Cisse, Remy, Goffran
    2) Shola, Sammy, HBA, (Sissoko)
    We definitely need a 2) but not Gomis.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #12

    Yo-yo

    Ashley’s biggest mistake is not understanding the fans. The more passionate fans would rather see us aim for something tough even though we would fail at least 80% of the time…but that’s not all fans. I don’t want to see the players’ heads drop if we lose a couple of games.

    It would be wrong to target 5th now because if we’re in 8th and 12 points short with 5 games to go, the players could just give up because they failed.

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  • nufcburty

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #13

    leave colo out, have dubuchy – yang – willo – santon as back four, why mess with an inform defence?

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  • martoon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #14

    70TWO @7 – I heard an interview with Pardew this morning – he said Shola is definitely starting against WBA.
    On the subject of Long you can produce stats all you want but all I know is the lad always seems to have a good game when playing us.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #15

    What the hell is wrong with Sylvain Marveaux? I’m a bit concerned as per why he isn’t playing.

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  • 70TWO

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #16

    Looking at WBA formation the same players as at Chelsea/Spurs should see it through, with Colo to come on for any eventuality isn’t bad either.

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  • barkel

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #17

    Ketsbaia9

    Who is he going to replace in the starting XI at the minute? Surprising he isn’t making the bench though

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #18

    Sage,
    Yeah, as part of a group of strikers he is okay. I think we are 1 striker light anyway as we are now, but still feel the priority needs to be a Shola upgrade. If we got Long as well, then great.

    If we just get 1 striker in Jan for me we will need 2/3 strikers come the summer- Shola aging and out of contract, Remy possible but unlikely to join, and if Cisse is still woefully out of form how long can we persist with him?

    Unless Campbell/Gillihead/Armstrong progress at an incredible rate over the coming 9 months then we have a big job on in the summer.

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  • 70TWO

    Nov 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #19

    martoon –
    CF for PM!
    Does show that Pardew is keeping with consistency and playing those in form. But what about the likes of Marv, how do they get form? Certainly not playing in the reserves/U21.
    Hopefully a wonderous first 45 minutes with the first team and look to bring on the clowns (Cisse et al) to bring it home with another goal.

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  • walton1984

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #20

    Colo wants too leave, could leave Jan or defo in summer
    so i would stick with Willo & Mbwia the are playing well and have a good Partnership

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #21

    lilo

    Agree we need a shola upgrade, shola is doing well but out of contract in the summer and after 60 mins he is tired…then without the big man we fail to hold the ball.

    We need to find somebody to do that role.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #22

    We had this discussion about Long yesterday, I’m not sold on him…I honestly can’t see the difference between him and Leon Best. Long is average at best, but he is a grafter though. Grafters are important but having 8 or 9 grafters with a couple of magical creative players is defo the way forward!! Shane Long is not worth the money, we need a brute…Physical presence up front which we’ve not had since Carroll, technically we’ve never replaced Carroll, Shola’s done a job over the past couple of games but as a ST I honestly can’t see him getting 10 goals in a season!! You could argue that Ba’s replacement is Cisse

    Oldgit: The law only came into the French league over this summer (we didn’t buy any of our French player then) your argument is flawed as players are ambitious, why stay at a club that wishes to finish top 10 with no cup success? I blame our lack of ambition for what hopefully won’t be the start of disillusioned players, yes players move for more money as any of us would, but we all want to be a part of something successful as well as being tested at the highest level, CL is the highest level at club football

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #23

    70two

    Marv has had his chances and the guy’s more frustrating than HBA, most of the games he’s played in he hasnt really turned up for. Better as an impact sub.

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  • martoon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #24

    Transfer Sage @21 – I suspect Gomis was supposed to be the Shola upgrade but we all know what happened there – personally I thought he was a bit expensive. I think you are right Shola only seems to have about 60 minutes of football in him now probably because of age and injuries I would suspect.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #25

    martoon

    I don’t watch much french football but from what i have seen in highlights and the odd game gomis doesn’t look like a hold up player, think we need somebody more like benteke/lukaku….i can’t think of any but surely our scouts must be indentifying targets like that around europe now.

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  • Iain Dowie

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #26

    Cabaye is a quality midfielder and arguable our best player however if he wants to go we should let him. He has the ability to play in a top top team and has earned it by some of his performances over the last 3 seasons.

    However with the money we could get for him we would be able to find a replacement. Players like Lallana who a few years ago where in the championship are now showing just how good they can be. Although I doubt we could get Lallana I do believe a player like him would bring a lot if not more to the team as sometimes I find that tiote and cabaye both want to play in the holding role.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #27

    Can people stop claiming that the club doesn’t want to win a cup? That’s just rubbish. The club said that the league is the priority and not the cups, that’s the same for every other club too. Pardew’s teams in the cup this season show that he wanted to win the games.

    It seems some fans would rather the club lied to say what the fans want to hear…

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  • jimBOB

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #28

    Long is an obsolute work horse, you can see the kid just loves the game – im all for players like that at the toon.
    they cause major problems for teams. for a small guy aswell he scores some fantastic headers.

    get the lad for 2 mill I say

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  • Blofal

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #29

    I think Benny should be given a chance this game. I just have a feeling.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #30

    TDS

    I go along with that…i think we have had strong teams in the cups and were knocked out by man city, luck of the draw went against us.

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  • martoon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #31

    It’s funny how fans of a club and other fans view a player. I also have friends who are WBA fans and they do not rate Long at all yet most of us think he is quite decent. You start to wonder if other fans think Obertan is world class – sell him quick 😉

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #32

    martoon

    Not sure why they dont rate him. He isn’t prolific but not many forwards are really, he has a reasonable record at west brom, has pace, works hard, runs the channels, decent in the air…can’t see what isn’t to like. Consistency maybe? only watch highlights and the odd game they have on TV.

    Still think he would be good coming in if we also get a shola upgrade and a left sided winger.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #33

    Would anyone else take Diego from Wolfsburg ? . Out of contract soon and worth a look IMO .

    We should send Carr to Germany as there are some cracking players there . Raffael or Kruse are other players we could look at to replace Cabaye if he leaves .

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  • Ancientcoptic

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #34

    Ben Arfa has form for tearing West Brom apart, I would not be surprised to see him come into the team for this one. I certainly would have no arguments if he got the nod.

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #35

    Martoon

    Nice one mate, I know WBA fans who don’t rate the lad at all as well, all work no end product!! He struggled to be consistently good in the championship, struggles in the Irish team. Can’t see why we would want another ST who just isnt going to get 15 – 20 goals a season

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  • jimBOB

    Nov 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #36

    I would possibly look at bringing in

    – Ayew
    – Long
    – Ince

    keep gosling and try to keep Remy, if not mabey a little cheecky De Jong bid.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #37

    our toon

    Not sure how many 15-20 goal strikers we can have. Cisse and remy are both mean to be that type.

    Why can’t long offer a support role, not all strikers are goal scorers, look how much praise and success heskey has had in his career for being a good link up man.

    Long is decent in the air and holding the ball as well as playing a decent pass/cross. Plus his pace stretched the teams and gives more room for others.

    Not a world beater but a good squad player

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  • Our Toon

    Nov 27, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #38

    In a defensive team with not many runners from midfield cant see the use of Long at best we get 2 players in the box from open play, 3 at a push. Long runnig the channels whose going to be in the box? Gouffran and?

    TDS: the club have stated they are happy with top 10 finish and that the league is priority. Other clubs have a couple of goals incl a cup run, we have the league as priority. Its not an assumption but a statement from the club!!

    Citeh cup game we should never have lost at home against there B team, we didn’t play Cabaye or Remy when really we should have!! We had a strongish side out but not our strongest!!

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  • G

    Nov 27, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #39

    Whilst I don’t think Shane Long is in any way a bad player, I would agree that he would be just a new Shola at the Toon. I honestly believe we should only sign a player who progresses the team, not maintains it. I would see the Toon signing Shane Long as stagnation, and it would reinforce the belief that we have no ambition. He certainly wont make the team any worse, but there’s no way he’s going to improve it either.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Nov 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #40

    G

    I think he would improve the team, but that’s just my opinion. I’m all for a better player, just thinking what the club might do, he’s out of contract so a bargain, what we love really. Grafter, something we love too.

    I’ve seen a link to Uche Nwofor….dubbed the next Benteke…maybe worth a punt.

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